manny4life:

I don't know what class of runway you wanna build, but ok

I NEVER argued that it's ONLY states with oil should build one, I've always argued on viability and sustainability.

Right now, all you have said is true, but mere theory... let's forget about the theories and focus on actuality


Per my question, I really wanna know what your thoughts are - do you honestly believe that Bauchi can make enough to cover its expense?

manny4life:

An 8-lane projection is simply based on the "right now" demand and potential future, there are more cars and besides, the govt isn't doing this to achieve any revenue from it but rather an infrastructural development. I bet if you billed everyone who traveled on that road, it will definitely pay for itself on the first day.

You're not suggesting that an airport in Bauchi is a needed infrastructure, are you?

Omo_Tier1:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/154910/

Just read that and see what I mean when I said that sum was small for a runway because the revenue you make from runways is a function of other things but major your Pavement Classification Number PCN and Aircraft Classification number,ACN.Also, having navigational aid to landing and take off also bring in money! On average it cost about €40 per landings four some of the least heavy aircraft.

manny4life:

Bros, stop bringing me info from Airliners.net

I have come to find out that that website isn't really reliable.

In addition to aircraft landing, I'm aware of landing fees. Here in the U.S. some airports charge $4 while some charge $5 per 1,000lbs. Yes I'm aware of that what I'm disagreeing with you is the runway cost. Unless you want to be ATL who spent $1bbillion for a runway,I think FAA will provide more detailed information.

Omo_Tier1:
I corroborated my earlier submission that an infrastructural investment in the now can translate to great savings in the future, so by making such a move now, building a runway that can serve the state for at least 20years with control tower and proper communication gadgets, He might be saving the state some future expedition should the state have to build it later out of necessity!

manny4life:

WOW, so he's undertaking a less needed infrastructural need compared to the other?

So I guess, he builds an airports, continues to fund it annually with several hundreds of million of Naira (that should be used to drive the economy) till the airport is viable just because of the savings in the future. Is that your argument?

Omo_Tier1:
All I am pointing out to you is that if you want to build a runway that can handle the heaviest of the aircraft out there, then $40m will just about put the first layer on with white markings

manny4life:

How do you mean "heaviest" of all aircraft? Isn't it same ILS that lands a 737 lands a 747? Please educate me a lil? I'm lost to how you mean, I mean, is there something special amongst these aircraft with their lading system?

Omo_Tier1:
My point is this, if a business case has been presented that necessitated the airport being built now, so be it. Sometimes you have to take a risk into investing infrastructure and try to make things happen with your investment.

manny4life:

Hmm, while I understand your argument, but for a state like Bauchi, you will ignore all other critical infrastrutures to build one that's its viabilitty is on limbo. The reason why I asked using the amortization example is because, to me, financially, it does not make any sense

If you borrowed money $40million, not only is the govt paying $2million annually, + they're are actually funding the airports (say another $1million annually) = $3million. If eventually 5years down the road it becomes viable, you would have deprived your state of $15million... WAS IT WORTH IT? If you empowered Bauchians with $15million, won't the economy be robust by 5x?

Omo_Tier1:
ILS is just a navigation system like you know. Your runway pavement bearing stress determines the landing load factor it can handle. So if your runway is constructed cheaply then you will be able to handle only a certain landing load factor.

Omo_Tier1:
Well you can't be that sure the government borrowed the money. Remember recently, AfDB talked about grant for Nigeria aviation sector, and one of them might just be Bauchi state, but I do not know either.

We can all speculate, but let leave this to the state government because I am sure they government would have spent that amount on something more pressing if the money was not coming cheap. Come to think of it, did it not cost Delta state over 20bn Naira for the Asaba airport?

manny4life:

So now, it's not the navigation system but the pavement stress of handling a heavier aircraft? Ok, you just have to be more specific because I thought you were tryna say that it's the navigating ILS system....Anyway, what's the worse case it will handle, 1million pound of an A380?

I was watching modern marvels three days ago, and they use foam (treated differently) to build roads and runways depending on your stress limit requirement and I was shocked. My bottom line is, regardless of how much stress you're budgeting for, even a local runway can land a 747 when diverted.

I still don't believe you need all that much for a runway... IMO, I think I can ask for data to correspond to what you're saying.

Omo_Tier1:
It is not just the case that a runway can land a B747 when it's OWE. Here we are talking of a runway landing a B747 when it is overweight landing! Not that many airport around the world can handle such a landing load factor that is why you see B747 and A380 cannot land in certain airports, although for A380 is is largely due to her double decker size with requirements for super gateways.

But what I am driving at is this, if you want your runway to be able to handle high landing load factor, then you would have to thickness it up just like you would do if you were constructing a truck route used for cross-border trucking than you would for a trunk B road.

manny4life: @Omo,

I respect your opinion and reasoning, and yeah, you're very sound in aviation... Thinking about going back to aviation full time, but on the issue of Bauchi, as someone who works numbers, personally, I just don't see it... IMO

Let's electronically shake hands to agree not to disagree (if I made any sense)

CFCfan:

The Bauchi runway could be like 10-15 inches thick.

Omo_Tier1:
How did you come up with this? Do you have access to the any data that can shed more light on this?

In an effort to ensure easy movement of people and goods from the rural to urban areas in the state, government embarked on the construction of 65km Azare-lsawa-Giade-Kurba-Basirka road, 88km Alkaleri - Futuk road, and 113km Ningi - Burra road. Contracts for these projects were while work has reached advanced stages. The Azare - Isawa - Giade stage of the project has been completed; work on the other two projects has reached advanced staged. The administration also embarked on the construction of offices for political appointees, renovation of Commissioners' Quarters, renovation of four grounded fire fighting vehicles, renovation of Bauchi airport terminal,

Repair works of washouts at Luggudi/Bawari and Burga as well as Misau/Hardawa roads. Government is also handling the preparatory work for the development of Bauchi International Airport with two Engineers from the Ministry sponsored for post graduate diploma Earo Dome engineering course at the Singapore Aviation Academy.

Furthermore, in an effort to boost our transportation sector, government purchased twenty 14-seater buses, 10 Canter Vans, 2 Peugeot Partner, 1 Ambulance, 1 Towing Vehicle and 1 Toyota Corolla to serve the state flout and also to purchase two Macopolo buses and additional twenty 18-seater Busses in the 2009 fiscal year for the state transports company, Yankari Express.

"Roads provide the main source of transportation of people, goods and services in the state. It has been our policy to increase the road network so as to improve both commercial and agricultural activities."

To this end, this administration carried out the construction, upgrading and rehabilitation of major roads in the state which include the following:

- Ningi – Burra Road (113km)

- Alkaleri – Futuk Road (88km)

- Azare – Isawa – Giade Road (65km)

- Rishi – Panama – Tama Road (100km)

- Construction of Tapshin Brigde

- Gamawa – Alagarno – Sabon gari Road (30km)

- Soro – Miya Road (56km)

- Alkaleri - Gwaram Road (4km)

"You will recall that our priority in the Health Sector was to focus on preventive approach to Health Care Delivery System as well as the rehabilitation of Health Care infrastructure in the state. The objective was to reduce the prevalence of common killer diseases including Tuberculosis, HIV/AIDS, Polio and Malaria in the state. We inherited dilapidated hospitals, inadequate staffing and lack of functional equipments in most of our hospitals."
The government achievements are as follows:
- Within the first 100 days in office of this administration, 3 most dilapidated hospitals in the state were earmarked for reconstruction i.e T/Balewa, Kafin Madaki and Katagum (Zaki) Hospitals. As at today, T/Balewa Hospital has since been completed and commissioned while Kafin Madaki has reached 90% completion and Katagum (Zaki) Hospital is still under construction.
- Strengthening the capacity of the Health Care Delivery System by establishing a number of agencies; Hospital Management Board, Primary Health Care Development Agency (PHCDA) and Agency for the Control of HIV/AIDS, Leprosy, Tuberculosis and Malaria (BACATMA).
- The state government has also embarked on the renovation, rehabilitation and ompletion of the following hospitals:
- General Hospital, Azare - completed
- General Hospital, Giade - completed
- General Hospital, Bogoro - completed
- General Hospital, Jama’are - completed
- General Hospital, Ningi - completed
- General Hospital, Toro - completed
- General Hospital, Gamawa - on - going
- General Hospital, Dambam - on - going
- General Hospital, Bayara - on - going
- General Hospital, Misau - on - going
- General Hospital, Shira - on - going
- General Hospital, Itas - on – going
- Provision of water schemes in all Hospitals and Health care institutions across the state.
- Recruitment of Doctors from Egypt to complement the existing ones.
- Renovation and equipping of Health Care training Institutions in the state including School of Nursing, School of Midwifery and School of Health Technology.
- Upgrading of the facilities of Bauchi State Specialist Hospital prior to its conversion to a Teaching Hospital.
- Construction and Equipping of Maternity Health Centres all over state under the MDG programmes.
- Achievement of 97% Polio and Routine Immunization coverage in the state.
- Procurement of new ambulances to all the existing hospitals in the state.
- Introduction of Free Medical Care for pregnant and nursing women and children under the age of 5 years.
- Provision and installation of new generating sets to all existing hospitals in the state with regular fuelling.
- Entering into Public Private Partnership with Neimeth Pharmaceuticals to enhamce steady supply of drugs to all hospitals.
- Construction and equipping the Bauchi Specialist Hospital Intensive Care Unit.
- Provision of 3 three Operating Theatres in the Hospital.
- Introduction of Bus Service To and Fro the Specialist Hospital.
- Completion of the abandoned Pediatric Male and Female wards.
- Constructing and Equipping new accident and emergency centres to meet FIFA standard for World Cup Hosting.
- VVF Centre established in Ningi by USAID – now under rehabilitation.
- Construction and Equipping of 1002 Primary Health Centre (PHCs) and Maternity Centres.
- Establishment of a Clinic and Physiotherapy Centre in Abubakar Tafawa Balewa Stadium, Bauchi.
- Equipping of Physiotherapy Centre at Bauchi Specialist Hospital.
- Introduction of a new salary package for Health workers in the state (CONTISS).
- Implementation of National Health Insurance Scheme in the state.
- Establishment of “a state of the art” Dialysis Centre at ATBU Teaching Hospital, Bauchi.
- Facilitated the establishment of Specialist Eye Clinic in partnership with Albasar Foundation at Kobi Street – Bauchi.
- Negotiation for the establishment of Pediatric Cardiac Centre in Bauchi has been concluded with Internal Relief Organization in Saudi Arabia.

Bauchi State government is to build a world class hospital to treat heart diseases.

Governor Isa Yuguda told a team of Saudi Arabian officials, who visited on the proposed hospital, that the centre initially meant to be a paediatric centre for the treatment of children with heart diseases, has been converted to a cardiac centre to include adults because of the growing rate of heart-related problems.

The hospital, which is expected to begin operation next year is being sponsored by Euroson, a German international non-governmental Organisation (NGO), in conjunction with the United Nations. They will sponsor the project with the Saudi Arabian officials who will supply latest equipment in the treatment of disease.

Yuguda, who pledged his government’s commitment to reforms in the health sector, said the centre, which will be named Bauchi State Cardiac Centre, ‘will charge concessional fees for operation and will strive to keep many of the patients alive as its compliance will be based on the best practices of the world in health care.

dayokanu: Bauchi ko ni baje ooo

CFCfan: @Eko Ile: Those are nice pics of devt going on in Bauchi; but remember that Bauchi has a PDP governor