Goshen360: New International Version (©1984)
A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"A woman must not put on men's clothing, and a man must not wear women's clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the LORD your God.

English Standard Version (©2001)
“A woman shall not wear a man’s garment, nor shall a man put on a woman’s cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 22:5

That's the verse in different translations. What is your point

Goshen360: ^
Because trouser covers n.akedness more than skirt. Does that scripture mention trouser? Even if you're reading it to mean trouser and skirts, doesn't women have female trouser? Besides, isn't that written to the Jews? The New Testament ONLY supports moderations and doesn't tell women what to wear or what not to wear. I do NOT by any means teach that a woman should dress n.aked but that scripture was between God and the Jews. If you're gonna obey that scripture, you'll need to read the WHOLE passage and follow other laws in the same passage. Besides, which is better - To wear trouser to church or not wear to church BUT wear outside the church during the week?

Do you want me to quote the whole passage for you?

Goshen360: ^
Because trouser covers n.akedness more than skirt. ?[/b] [/i]

christemmbassey: i wonder why you always like to speak my mind, e be like say me & u go d same bible skool -o, bro u de think with my head. OMG!

Daniel058 :
you Can't doubt this"WOMEN ONLY Wear trouser to show their buttocks" and nothing more. Many of them wear the one which shows even the shape of their VIRGINA AND in this you cannot tell me nothing is wrong about wearing trouser 1corinthian 10:31"whether you eat or drink,whatever you do,do it all for the glory of God" col.3:23" Do whatever you do as if you are doing it for the lord" One shouldn't wait to be told that some certain thing are bad before trying to stop it. Ok what will you do/hoW WILL YOU FEEL TO SEE UR Pastor or priest taking INDIAN HEMP BEFORE COMING TO PREACh to You ?? Is it written in the bible that taking indian hemp is bad?? How many girls who dressed well have been raped?? WHY do people hawk their goods Is it not to attrack people to it. Or Do prostitute ever dressed normal ?? Can fowl be attracted to what it did not see ?? Please Rethink brother!!!

Daniel058 :


Please brother/sister,am confused.help me read DEUTERONOMY 22:5,if God have changed his word there,do me favour by leading me to the chapter and if possible the verse.

THANKS my dear bro/sis. Wait to hear from you.....

Daniel058 :
thanks bro!! THEN WHY DO LADIES/PASTOR'S WIFE WEAR TROUSER Even To churches

Daniel058 :
you Can't doubt this"WOMEN ONLY Wear trouser to show their buttocks" and nothing more. Many of them wear the one which shows even the shape of their VIRGINA AND in this you cannot tell me nothing is wrong about wearing trouser 1corinthian 10:31"whether you eat or drink,whatever you do,do it all for the glory of God" col.3:23" Do whatever you do as if you are doing it for the lord" One shouldn't wait to be told that some certain thing are bad before trying to stop it. Ok what will you do/hoW WILL YOU FEEL TO SEE UR Pastor or priest taking INDIAN HEMP BEFORE COMING TO PREACh to You ?? Is it written in the bible that taking indian hemp is bad?? How many girls who dressed well have been raped?? WHY do people hawk their goods Is it not to attrack people to it. Or Do prostitute ever dressed normal ?? Can fowl be attracted to what it did not see ?? Please Rethink brother!!!

Goshen360: ^
It's not us brother. It's Christ in us, it's the Spirit of God. We have lots of work to do within our brethren, not outside; like you always say. We understand the covenant by which we operate in. We understand that it was Christ that MADE us ministers of the new covenant.

Expanded Bible (EXB)
He (Christ) made us able [adequate; competent] to be servants of a new agreement from himself to his people [covenant; Jer. 31:31–34; Luke 22:20]. This new agreement [covenant] is not a written law [of the letter], but it is of the Spirit. The written law [letter] brings death, but the Spirit gives life. - 2 Corinthians 3:6

Please permit me my brother to introduce you to this Expanded Bible. OmG, it revelational bro. Here's the link:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%203:6&version=EXB

Goshen360: ^

Please permit me my brother to introduce you to this Expanded Bible. OmG, it revelational bro. Here's the link:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%203:6&version=EXB

Goshen360:

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My Oga don enter this thread. Make I step aside. Welcome big bros! Abeg help me carry on please.

moredendisc: Oh!!! How i wish you re read that portion of the bible and pause for the spirit of God to carry on. Uh!!






@Daniel058

DEUTERONOMY 22:5 is not about lewdness or lascivious acts like you are carrying on over about

You need other scriptures or verses to highlight the grievances on the obscene dressing or indecent exposures

If the prevailing times and period was studied, when the command in DEUTERONOMY 22:5 was issued,

it would have become obvious that the command was about and/or against manful, manly, manlike, manliness (i.e. women having the characteristics of an adult male)

and vice versa (i.e. men having or showing characteristics regarded as typical of a woman; unmanly)

Please dispel the misconception because it really is not about the dresses per se

but rather it is ABOUT cross-gender behavior (e.g. living in the social role of the opposite sex by adopting the clothing, hair styling, gestures, speech patterns, general personality etc etc)

That is what God finds yucky, repulsive, distasteful or disgusting

# SMH. Christendom will continually have it's work cut out if we don't study to show our self approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

Daniel058 :

moredendisc:

Oh!!! How i wish you re read that portion of the bible and pause for the spirit of God to carry on. Uh!!

Goshen360:

I have taught moderation as you can read. I do NOT teach that a Christian woman should dress like a pros.titute. I only addressed the verse quoted to say women should not wear trouser. A Christian woman dressing like a harl.ot is another issue - I do NOT teach that. You can't tell a Christian woman what to wear and NOT to wear, the NT supports moderation and NOT to be judged by what you wear or not wear. However, that does not mean our women should go na.ked in the street. There's are moderate trousers and jeans for women.

Besides, there's difference between a church goer and a Christian even though they're all called Christians. And to you, so na trouser wey dey show shape of virgina you dey go look for church shey? Wetin ya eye dey find go there if no be say you sef dey find something? Anyway, I was only showing that that scripture was written to a Christian. The NT supports moderation though.

advocate666:

[size=16pt]I can't see anything wrong with these.[/size]

advocate666: [size=16pt]I can't see anything wrong with these.[/size]

Goshen360: ^
[size=14pt]Because trouser covers n.akedness more than skirt. Does that scripture mention trouser? Even if you're reading it to mean trouser and skirts, doesn't women have female trouser? [/size] Besides, isn't that written to the Jews? The New Testament ONLY supports moderations and doesn't tell women what to wear or what not to wear. I do NOT by any means teach that a woman should dress n.aked but that scripture was between God and the Jews. If you're gonna obey that scripture, you'll need to read the WHOLE passage and follow other laws in the same passage. Besides, which is better - To wear trouser to church or not wear to church BUT wear outside the church during the week?

Do you want me to quote the whole passage for you?

Goshen360: ^
Because trouser covers n.akedness more than skirt. Does that scripture mention trouser? Even if you're reading it to mean trouser and skirts, doesn't women have female trouser? Besides, isn't that written to the Jews? The New Testament ONLY supports moderations and doesn't tell women what to wear or what not to wear. I do NOT by any means teach that a woman should dress n.aked but that scripture was between God and the Jews. If you're gonna obey that scripture, you'll need to read the WHOLE passage and follow other laws in the same passage. Besides, which is better - To wear trouser to church or not wear to church BUT wear outside the church during the week?

Do you want me to quote the whole passage for you?

MostHigh:

GOSHEN YOU DON START AGAIN WHAT unclothedness IS SHE COVERING BY WEARING TROUSERS?

MORE LIKE SHE IS ACCENTUATING HER HIPS, THIGHS AND BUTTOCKS ABI?

GOSHEN IF WOMEN HAVE TROUSERS LIKE YOU SAY WHY DO MEN NOT HAVE SKIRTS? SEEING THERE IS NO DEFINED CLOTHING FOR THE SEXEX IN OUR TIME

A GENERATION AGO IT WAS A RARITY NOW IT IS COMMON, COMMONALITY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN NORMAL BEHAVIOUR

I THINK THE BEST IS NOT TO WEAR TROUSER AT ALL

AND TO BE MODERATE IN ALL DRESSING COVERING ALL SENSUAL PARTS OF THE BODY THERBY EDIFYING THE TEMPLE

PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!

Goshen360: Why don't you people ALSO follow the rest of the context in Deuteronomy 22 Why do you pick out only verse 5 Christians ARE NOT JEWS! Those were written to the Jews - follow or obey ALL or NONE!

dekung: Even though I am an atheist but I can help but contribute on this topic as it was one of the things debated when I was still a christian. Goshen, I really enjoyed your contribution and you are one of those few who have made any sense as regards this matter. Now to the OP and his supporters did God, in the text you quoted, specify which cloths were masculine and which one were feminine? Do you know that the cloths worn by either gender is largely dictated the culture. Do you know that Scottish men have a traditional wrapper/skirts-like clothing called kilt? Would you advise a lady who is an engineer on a construction site to wear skirts, gown or "iro" to work? How convenient will that be? Nobody and I repeat, nobody said trousers are strictly for men. Even in today's fashion, you can easily differentiate trousers meant for men and those meant for women, in fact the orientation of the the buttons are different so what are you haggling about? You and your other supporters claim some ladies wear cloth trousers that reveal the shape of their virgina , guy get your mind out of the gutter. The truth is that whatever they wore that revealed their privacy is still classified as women's clothing. Even if these clothings reveal their shapes, they are still women's clothing you are the one that should get his mind out of the gutter. I agree that some ladies dress provocatively but be sure that these women will still dress that same way if they wore gowns but the truth is these tight fitting pants can be worn decently with long t-shirts that will cover important areas of their bodies.

Goshen quoted the whole text for you to ponder on, how come you pretended as if other instructions were not there, you ignored other laws and you are debating on this one? For example there is a part of the law (am not sure it is part of this one) where God said if your child disobeys you, you should take him outside and stone him to death. Why are you not advocating that kind of draconian law? Why is it that it is only the one of women wearing man's clothing that bothers you, does it threaten you masculinity? Are you turned on when those ones in virgina-revealing tight approach you or walk past you? .

moredendisc:






@Daniel058

DEUTERONOMY 22:5 is not about lewdness or lascivious acts like you are carrying on over about

You need other scriptures or verses to highlight the grievances on the obscene dressing or indecent exposures

If the prevailing times and period was studied, when the command in DEUTERONOMY 22:5 was issued,

it would have become obvious that the command was about and/or against manful, manly, manlike, manliness (i.e. women having the characteristics of an adult male)

and vice versa (i.e. men having or showing characteristics regarded as typical of a woman; unmanly)

Please dispel the misconception because it really is not about the dresses per se

but rather it is ABOUT cross-gender behavior (e.g. living in the social role of the opposite sex by adopting the clothing, hair styling, gestures, speech patterns, general personality etc etc)

That is what God finds yucky, repulsive, distasteful or disgusting

# SMH. Christendom will continually have it's work cut out if we don't study to show our self approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth