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Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by mayoroflag(m): 12:58pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
The OP is evidently ignorant and giving a dog a bad name. Is OP an economist or financial expert or well read in these matters....? 1 Like |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by joeyfire(m): 1:02pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
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Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Krucifax(m): 1:05pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Your opinion is thoughtful but fundamentally flawed! The summary of your write up is this "Do not privatize because of unfair monopolies and business practices,government should therefore retain all control!" To understand why this ideology is flawed all you need to do is look at nations that have tried it i.e CUBA. This concept you suggest stifles enterprise,kills creativity,is highly inefficient and ensures a lack of progress in any society it is implemented! I see you have some understanding of Economics in your reference to elasticity, then you must surely also know that investors and ventures capitalists(the life blood of economic growth) run away from countries with overbearing government control on business. Privatization is the exact opposite of what you have written about. Privatization as opposed to Nationalization is the concept that actually ensures economic growth. Privatization ensures competitiveness and efficiency (as companies fight to out do each other for market share). Privatization ensures innovation. Privatization "generally" ensures minimal political collusion and profiteering. Privatization increases revenue to government in the form of tax and license receipts. Privatization "should" lead to lower prices as a result competition and market share scaling by companies. Privatization "should" ensure better standard as Nationalization means govt regulating themselves (very bad idea). Privatization does come with down sides as all things,but these have to be factored in as normal with every economic plan. The problem in Nigeria is not the Privatization per se but the business environment.There are issues with; Unnecessary bureaucracy Poor infrastructure Skill shortage Little investment incentives Poor leadership These need to be addressed,however it shouldn't be done with govt calling the shots because a Politician is not a Business Man! 0lumide: OBJ's campaign for privatization started as soon as he came in to office in 1999. I think 13 years is more than enough to access the the effectiveness of economic policies. 3 Likes |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Bawss1(m): 1:16pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
^^^ + 1000000. Very well said. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by mrkels(m): 4:22pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Jarus: Privatization success stories: I swear by all the demigods in nigeria that you have no idea of what you are talking about (especially the bolded in your post). Unipetrol ko oando ni. God would punish those people at unipetrol/oando and their future generations would reap the sins of their fathers who destroyed that company. Do you know how much my family lost in the hands of those thieves ? How can you say it became a successful company? Abi you join all those people when bring the company down? Guy...Just lock up o as i am not in a smiling mood today . |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 5:44pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Krucifax: Your opinion is thoughtful but fundamentally flawed! The summary of your write up is this "Do not privatize because of unfair monopolies and business practices,government should therefore retain all control!" First of all, your Analysis of my analysis on privatization in Nigeria is so flawed, I doubt you read my full post at all. Here is what I will try to explain to you again: Before we go into your full nonsense of non "privatized" economies being unsuccessful. As successful as the Chinese economy is today, It started first with publicly owned enterprise. It didn't start with privately owned enterprise. Even as China is moving towards capitalism, they are currently practicing state capitalism which is still against fundamental issues of privatization and leavving public amenities in the hands of private owners. I will tell you an example of some of the most successful public institution. MPI: The company is owned by the province of Manitoba in Manitoba (public). Investors are allowed to come in but you will have to buy franchise not buy out the company lol. Manitoba Public Insurance (MPI) Has the best insurance policies in North America and are insured by the biggest insurance company in the world(AIG). AIG isn't government owned but it is public owned but they are insuring the best insurance policy in North America which is government owned. What stops our rich men from offering management services to oil sector, tel com sector, etc.? You really are not learned in economics at all. If we don't have oil in Nigeria, do you think the government projects will survive on taxes from 18k minimum wage? The government will have to dabble into investments too. And selling public assets isn't a good idea. Do you remember Manitoba Hydro? The company Barth Nnaji brough from Canada? Do you think it's privately owned? Manitoba hydro is also a government owned power company in the province of Manitoba. Another telecom company is owned by the same provincial government in Canada and it's called MTS. It's the most successful tel com company in the province. Dude, you have no idea economics dude. You brought Cuba as an example of how public enterprise can go wrong? Why not use Iran, Libya and China with publicly owned enterprises and a sound economy? Using a straw man's argument to support privatization is just simply flawed and lame. Extremely lame, it gave you off as someone who know nothing about global economy. Do you know about Sovereign Wealth Funds? Do you know the countries that have SWF? what do you think the money is been used for? China just created MGM resort/casino in Las Vegas publicly owned with China's money. What do you think governments do with SWF? they use it to buy up companies. Is Nigerian economy better than that of China? China is investing in not only China but outside China and they are not private enterprises. I shouldn't be debating you dude. You know nothing of economics. 3 Likes |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 5:46pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
mayoroflag: The OP is evidently ignorant and giving a dog a bad name. Is OP an economist or financial expert or well read in these matters....? Argue not insult. 1 Like |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Krucifax: Your opinion is thoughtful but fundamentally flawed! The summary of your write up is this "Do not privatize because of unfair monopolies and business practices,government should therefore retain all control!" I really need to keep schooling you in global economy. Cuba failed because it didn't allow free flow of economic activities. Is Nigerian government maintaining Nitel stopping Glo and MTN from starting their own companies? Is Nigeria having a public insurance company stopping IGI from operating? Nigeria can not survive on either capitalist or socialist economic policies, we need a balance of both like China is perfectly doing. A balance of public and private, a competition that can never die or be fixed. That is what Nigeria needs. Our government need to invest too and manage their investments well so we will have money for development. Nigeria is a huge profit market the people will lose out if the government doesn't join private enterprises in tapping into that instead of selling off assets. Take for example, a major road needs to be constructed, no private company will be interested in constructing road but Nigerian government can construct the road and toll it making money for the government that way, the road will not only pay itself off in the long run, it will also create revenue adding to our revenue index. Do you know what revenue index does to economies in stock market? If Nigerian government invests in Gari and is getting lots of revenue from Gari, the index will be there in stock market for references only. Many investors will automatically want to invest in Gari because they will also want to make the money the government is making. Does that mean the government has to sell off Gari investment? or just allow for competition in the Gari industry? Only corruption and greed will make one Dangote say "why not sell me Nigerian Gari investments" instead of starting his own Gari production etc.. You are lame in economics dude. Go back to lecture rooms. Economics have basic theories, nobody said those theories should be copied practice for practice, you need to modify those theories to fit into your nation's economy not lift. That is why an economic policy that worked for America will not necessarily work for Nigeria or Libya or Russia or Sweden etc... You modify it to fit your situation. Learn bro. Don't be bitter. 3 Likes |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Doncolio(m): 6:31pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Adejoro74: O boy/man/gul....its still d same corruption we are talking about. Is d management company bigger than the government or otherwise. If you an authority that's not corrupt, your subject can't sell corruption to u. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by BarryX(m): 7:01pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Privatisation as a government policy has failed in all respects.My argument is the countries whose privatisation model we are copying is on a stimulus buy-back rampage of privately owned companies to help their economy infact they are depending of the Chinese Yuan to offset their Budget deficits. Not to mention a country of ours where things don't work the way they are planned. We should have a focused and nepotism-free government in this country . Which I seriously doubt .. Am Ŋ¤τ̲̅ pessimistic but a realist |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Krucifax(m): 9:24pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Mister your rant is lacking in even a basic grasp of Economic principles. But as this is forum for discussion i will tell you why you are incredibly wrong. Firstly let me introduce myself. I’m a Major of Law first degree and MBA Masters all from London and have worked in two continents in large business and economic capacities. It’s not to blow my trumpet put to into context who you are talking too, and settle your mind so you may learn a thing or two there’s no shame in that buddy,now that’s out the way let’s get cracking! 0lumide: If you understand economics then you’ll also know a large state (i.e massive govt control)is bad for economic growth. You have inadvertently proved yourself wrong by yourself. You admit China’s move to more liberal forms of business. Also you are confusing state capitalism with nationalization which is what you are suggesting. What China is doing is ensuring Chinese companies get first bite of the pie before foreign investors. It’s still privatization but with a bias for local companies, and not your suggestion public enterprise(whatever the hell that means) 0lumide:What!!!!! You should really cover your head in shame about the above. AIG for your information is a “multinational” it’s based in different countries. Still answerable to “whoever” (i.e investors)invests in it. And what in God’s holy name has Privatization got to do with 18k minimum wage? No disrespect but you are rambling here no coherence at all!!. 0lumide:Alas with the above the source of your confusion becomes clear! You seem to have confused the meanings of Privatization, Nationalization and Public Liability Company. For your information the countries you have listed above are one of the biggest investors in Private Enterprise !! I’m shocked you can even expose yourself by saying this. Did you know that Libya had Billions of pounds invested in the U.K and Swedish Capital Markets and Real Estate(Private Enterprises)? Same thing with Iran in Russia and China. Why do you think Russia and China constantly veto any U.N Security sanctions by the U.S? 0lumide: Damn this is where your rant goes from comical to ridiculous. Let me ask you a simple question my friend. Have you ever heard of the term “contractor” or “sub-contractor”?? Using your example above i want you to answer this question if the Nigerian govt decides a road needs building do you not know that it will still give the job out to a “private company”? What the govt decides to do with the road after the work, toll or not has no basis in this discussion. Seriously buddy it’s not even discussed at any serious level everybody knows privatization is a tonic for economic growth. Nationalization is always extreme and counter productive and never lasts history is full of the examples. Also i want to leave you with something, you mentioned China a lot using it as an example for Nationalization. I implore you to look again. Whilst this may have been true in the times of Mao Zedong (great China man and champion of Nationalization) it also represents the dark ages of China since all that was reversed China has since become a great world economic power. Not because of Nationalization but because of the opposite, carefully managed Privatization!!! |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 11:59pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
Krucifax: Mister your rant is lacking in even a basic grasp of Economic principles. But as this is forum for discussion i will tell you why you are incredibly wrong. It seems your confusion started with not understanding my reason for posting this thread.... Go back, read my thread and comprehend. Saying you have MBA in Law don't mean shit in economics lol. The reason you take philosophy classes when studying law is so you can argue properly and have better comprehension of law but the comprehension skills can be generally applied outside law. Use that and try to understand my initial post. This is not where you need to chest beat of degree when simple comprehension eludes you capability. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 1:27am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Krucifax: Mister your rant is lacking in even a basic grasp of Economic principles. But as this is forum for discussion i will tell you why you are incredibly wrong. Also, note that my argument is not based on general effectiveness of privatization, my argument is based on analysis of the effectiveness of adopting the privatization policy in the Nigerian situation as a developing economy. Is our economy better off than before with privatization of already public enterprises? I said AIG insures the best insurance policy in North America and the investor of the insurance policy is the government of Manitoba in Canada. I used that example to counter your idea that government owned enterprises are not successful. Since you decided to use Cuba which is socialist in an argument against privatization, who is confusing nationalization with privatization? Chinese government have investments and enterprises they manage as Chinese government owned. The Russian government own two different major highways in the United States. What is stopping Nigerian government from investing in Nigeria? Instead all the investments of the FG are "privatized". Your understanding of economics is limited. Stick to law court bro.. No be iko dem dey use know things na by learning. Your two responses to me has been about you analyzing the privatization policy not in respect to Nigerian economy situation. Instead you are using success stories as proof instead of using your fundamental understanding of the economic policy and why it fits the Nigerian situation. In my opening post, I said Nigeria is not ripe for privatization because of the gap between the poor and the rich. I never said privatization is a bad policy, I said it is a bad policy for Nigeria. If it is not a bad policy for Nigeria, what are the positive effect of privatization of government owned investments? What has it done for Nigeria? Is privatizing government owned companies a good policy in the long run? 13 years in economics is a long run, so in that 13 years, has privatization really helped our economy? MTN and GLO are not examples of privatization, they are examples of capitalist economy not privatization policy. Is it profitable to sell of Nigerian government owned companies instead of making the companies compete in the market there by giving Nigerian government more revenue to invest in development with? These what you need to tackle in your responses not my knowledge of economics because if you tackle these wrongly, it doesn't mean I know economics more than you. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by udatso: 8:50am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Adejoro74:... If dias 1 tn in lyf av learnt is dat, u dnt gv up on smtn simply because it was tried b4 and dnt work out well. Y nt try it again wt dffrnt approach? Are u saying evry1 is like Bi-courtney? It wasn't necessary 2 include" u lots are vry shameless" |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by jpphilips(m): 12:55pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Akanbi_edu: Saying corruption killed government-run enterprise is an oversimplification of the issue, it is much more complex than that. At the of the problem is ethnic disunity, Nigerians have so much been divided that its almost impossible to rally the people around a common cause i.e fighting corruption. I believe a private sector lead economy reduces the friction that disunity causes in the government. Nice piece but i disagree with the part that there are no Tribal sentiments in the private sector. lets just say the efficiency is better, what i think the OP is saying is a little different from what you are saying. he is not asking an individual who wishes to start his own business not to start, neither is he undermining the efficiency in the private sector , all he is saying is; don't convert the Govt owned infrastructures to private run companies. i have thought in the direction of the OP when i saw some things that were not right with the policy. The MTN example you gave is not quintessential to this argument because, MTN did not acquire NITEL, it came just like any other private enterprise and soared. MTN did not convert Govt infrastructures, those are the vital points you missed from the OP's argument. i think i concur completely with him, the Govt run businesses are supposed to form a competitive benchmark for the private companies, remember that when MTN came on board at the demise of NITEL, they exploited Nigerians for years, the OP is trying to say that such could be averted if the Govt did not privatize NITEL. if operators were managing NITEL and MTN operating side by side, we wouldn't have bought sim cards for 50k and efficiency will equally be guaranteed. it is an open secret that Obasanjo bought almost all the transcorp shares that acquired NITEL, assigning the biggest Govt hotel and few oil wells to himself, it makes no sense. if i was OBJ, and the inefficiency of NITEL was a problem, i will set up an investment management board, who will shop for competent operators to manage NITEL, not squeezing it into his pocket. The Government gives those companies targets to make money while an investment blue print is drawn up by the investment board for Expansion. let me give you another Example, we know our NNPC is incompetent, they are the Nigerian interest in the Nigerian JV agreement, The IOC's are private foreigners who wish to do business with us, NNPC now allows them to be operating the JV agreement and that is the reason Nigeria is still selling oil till date, that is why investments are coming in and the oil industry is growing. who ever came up with that idea secured the future of this country, i don't really know the first oil minister for Nigeria but that plan was genius, now let us analyze the options he had. if he was a selfish man like obasanjo, our oil industry would have collapsed by now. imagine if NNPC was operating all our oil fields? it could have been plagued with inefficiency,or the carcass would have been sold to politicians in the name of privatization. the reason i say this is that there are subsidiaries of NNPC like NPDC who was tasked with oil exploration for Nigeria, today, they are inefficient, let me remind you that NPDC has been operational for over 25yrs, how many oil fields do they own from scratch today and running it efficiently? just recently, they took up some marginal fields and locations from Shell, in less than a year, production and efficiency has dropped considerably, same is applicable in all facets of our public service. operator contract aka PSC saved our oil industry and i believe it is better than Privatization. in the oil industry today, another Monster is reeling out its head and Nigerians are keeping quiet, this monster is another deadly "privatization" called "indegenization of the oil and gas industry". this monster has been smuggled into the PIB and we are quiet. it is not a bad idea to have Nigerians as big players in the oil industry but the PIB has no single implementation frame work, in the name of indegenization, politicians have hijacked the oil industry while the Nigerian workers are treated like mere slaves, something that was unheard of when foreigners dominated the industry. the new politicians aka Indeginous owners compromise on virtually everything to maximize profit at the expense of welfare and safety. let us go to our free trade zones, the essence of having a free trade zone is to reduce logistics cost in oil and gas industry operations. every serious country that wish to develop a particular sector of its economy must have attractive concessions for the stake holders in that sector. In the name of privatization, Atiku's intel has taken over all the ports and free trade zones in this country. he charges higher than any oil producing port authority in the world and these operating companies don't have a choice. the Govt encouraged companies by giving them an oil and gas free trade zone, but the selfishness of OBJ and Atiku is making them pay for space higher than import duty. does it make sense? ok, lets talk about another privatization mishap that OBJ did. portharcourt refinery was sold to dangote or so at the time for a paltry sum which if he succeeded could have had monopoly of petroleum products distribution in a population of over 160million people, that is the peak of insanity. thanks to yaradua who reversed that Madness if the refineries were moribund, why not get competent operators to manage it and make it productive other than putting it into dangote's pocket? if Total can Operate AKPO, Amina ofon oil fields, EXxON mobil could Operate yoho, Usari, idoho, Usan oil platforms, if shell could operate Bonga, why was obasanjo telling us that selling the refinery was the best option? that is the point the OP is making here, also remember that at the time dangote bought the refinery, Nigeria has very expensive crude oil, where would dangote get oil to refine there and make it profitable without extorting Nigerians? our oil at the time was selling for almost $140 per barrel. the total capacity of the two portharcort refineries are 210,000bbls/day, so dangote wanted to be refining on a daily basis, if he succeeds in optimizing its efficiency $140 X 210,000bbls = $29,400,000 with this cost as cost of raw materials alone, other sundry costs not withstanding, using the calculation that PMS is 30% of that figure, how much could we have bought PMS from a dangote owned refinery? it was later we heard that products from the refinery were subsidized, imagine what dangote could have done to us? OBJ nearly finished the middle class with his privatization madness. we are retrogressive in this country because of corruption of our leaders, they are too selfish to make out any positive for this country, i blame the armed forces more who give their lives protecting people that doesn't give a damn about them. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by jpphilips(m): 1:16pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Krucifax: Your opinion is thoughtful but fundamentally flawed! The summary of your write up is this "Do not privatize because of unfair monopolies and business practices,government should therefore retain all control!" in a corrupt economy like Nigeria, privatization is the opposite of what it sounds like. the OP made a more valid proposition which most people here are ignoring. and that is "OPERATORS CONTRACT" why do you need to sell NITEL to an individual when you can give Orange 20% to manage it for you? Orange has world class experience in running Telecom business world over, they have 95% success chance to gambling with a loser like jimoh ibrahim with zero pedigree but mere Nepotism? we are talking about development, if Orange was running Nitel and you pay them 20% profit as operation cost or even 40% like we pay our oil companies, Orange will do its best to ensure that the company stays afloat. Also, orange managing Nitel doesnt mean MTN wont come, the market is too big to be ignored. Privatization wont have been a better alternative |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by jpphilips(m): 1:26pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
0lumide: Bravo!!!!! |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by upper(m): 3:15pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
So wot is the difference between management contract and concessioning. If there is no difference then it might interest u to know that 60% of concessioned public coporation have failed because the concessionaire r interested only on quick profit they will make from the coporation instead of improving facilities on ground. I think privatisation is still the best. 2 Likes |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
upper: So wot is the difference between management contract and concessioning. If there is no difference then it might interest u to know that 60% of concessioned public coporation have failed because the concessionaire r interested only on quick profit they will make from the coporation instead of improving facilities on ground. I think privatisation is still the best. upper: So wot is the difference between management contract and concessioning. If there is no difference then it might interest u to know that 60% of concessioned public coporation have failed because the concessionaire r interested only on quick profit they will make from the coporation instead of improving facilities on ground. I think privatisation is still the best. What stops a government that means business from probing the company it employed to manage it's investment? You guys are missing the point. Nigerian government owning investments is not the problem, the problem is corruption and in the case of Nigeria, (corruption coupled with privatization) wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few Simple. You seem to not get my point. Why do you think some state governments were bidding during the PHCN selling stuff? These are state governments that know what's up. And it was no other states than states with right thinking governors including Edo and Ekiti. Delta was also involved (please I won't like to debate Uduaghan as it doesn't take away from my point whether he is right thinking or not). |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 7:50am On Feb 20, 2013 |
It will be unfair competition to set MTN or Glo to compete with Nitel. First, there will be a conflict of interest since the government (through) NCC will regulate itself (Nitel). Also, the government will use taxpayers money (obtained from companies like MTN and Glo) and use it to invest in a competing company (Nitel) Is that fair? Do you think investors (local or foreign) will have confidence competing against the government? Don't you know that government owned companies get better lending rates from banks as they have an implicit sovereign debt guarantee and you believe its fair for them to compete with privately financed (at higher rates) companies? The government is better off remaining strictly a policy maker / regulator as opposed to regulator and participant at the same time. It inspires confidence in the fairness of the business environment. Additionally, Nigeria's peculiar environment makes government owned enterprises a disaster. It will be plagued by the usual Nigerian factor i.e quota/federal character, corruption, nepotism, incompetent kleptocrats/politicians appointed as managers, the company becomes a piggy bank for the ruling party e.g. NNPC, poor maintenance of facilities to mention a few. You cannot just appoint managers to run it without having them have a stake in the success or failure of the venture. The only way it may work is if you are able to attract a world-class company willing to invest partially in the company and then cede management to that company without political interference. This is the reason Nigeria's oil industry functions. The IOCs are minority shareholders in the JV companies but they have management responsibility. In any case, the government has no choice as the only way the government can get the IOCS to invest their money in oil production in Nigeria is to cede operatorship. They will NOT put their shareholder's billions under the management of kleptocrats in NNPC/Aso Rock. A sad reminder that the average Nigerian is not honest or altruistic enough to run a government owned enterprise without looting it, or appointing relatives/friends/ethnic groups as employees disregarding competence, |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 7:26pm On Feb 20, 2013 |
kalokalo: It will be unfair competition to set MTN or Glo to compete with Nitel. First, there will be a conflict of interest since the government (through) NCC will regulate itself (Nitel). Also, the government will use taxpayers money (obtained from companies like MTN and Glo) and use it to invest in a competing company (Nitel) Is that fair? Do you think investors (local or foreign) will have confidence competing against the government? Don't you know that government owned companies get better lending rates from banks as they have an implicit sovereign debt guarantee and you believe its fair for them to compete with privately financed (at higher rates) companies? I gave an example of public company,(MTS) it competes with bigger Canadian tel coms like Rogers, Telus and Bell. It doesn't mean the government will bend the rules for it's own company. Other company have the right to sue if that is so. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Feb 20, 2013 |
0lumide: Can you vouch that the scenario you mentioned can work in Nigeria? That it worked in Canada does not mean it will work in Nigeria. To catch you on the bolded above, how much did Nitel pay for its GSM licence when its private competitors paid 285 million dollars? Where can nitel get that kind of money if not from the FG paying itself taxpayers money on Nitel's behalf. In other words, no net gain for the government and an unfair competitive advantage for Nitel. Additionally, look at the history of public enterprises in Nigeria. What makes you think our attitudes to government property has changed or will ever change? Nigerians treat their personal property better than they treat public property. A Nigerian will maintain his own private assets but will never maintain public ones entrusted in his care. He will rather loot the money. Look at the issue of the police colleges. Every year, money is appropriated for their maintenance yet they remain in disastrous state. What happened to the monies? Your guess is as good as mine. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Sunofgod(m): 9:39pm On Feb 20, 2013 |
Privitisation has made the rich richer and the poor poorer. That's what it's all about. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 1:45am On Feb 23, 2013 |
kalokalo: Can you vouch that the scenario you mentioned can work in Nigeria? That it worked in Canada does not mean it will work in Nigeria. To catch you on the bolded above, how much did Nitel pay for its GSM licence when its private competitors paid 285 million dollars? Where can nitel get that kind of money if not from the FG paying itself taxpayers money on Nitel's behalf. In other words, no net gain for the government and an unfair competitive advantage for Nitel. That it is working for government to own investments is a good example of an economic policy that is universal. That is why operator's contract like Jphilips said comes into play. Wait, why is America now investing in public health insurance? Ask yourself.. Shay we like to copy America lipsticks and eye contacts? Why do you think American government decided to get into health care? because many Americans are not insured because of the policies of private insurance companies etc.. I can go on and on with you on why privatization is bad for Nigeria. If we have operators contract, with say Virgin mobile and they don't manage Nitel well, we will give the contract to another company. Now, do you think Banks will have to loan the money it has to self? Say Chase bank has 1b dollars it can invest with, do you think Chase bank will have to borrow $1bill for investment? NO! They wont! Do you think it is unfair to other businesses that will have to borrow from Chase to invest in same business simply Chase is invested in it too? Seriously... do an indept analysis before posting your conclusion, your above post seems like a random thought you just came up without analyzing it. As for the rest of your comment, it's irrelevant for consideration if we have a good government ready to tackle corruption and indiscipline. |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 10:55am On Feb 23, 2013 |
[size=18pt]Only achievement is that it has added billions of dollars to the personal wealth of ex-president Thief Olusegun Obasanjo[/size] |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Mar 27, 2013 |
How are the privatized public infrastructures doing? |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 12:23pm On Mar 28, 2013 |
They have mostly all closed down and the billions invested in them stolen. Thanks to Obasanjo 0lumide: How are the privatized public infrastructures doing? |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 5:18am On Aug 10, 2014 |
How are the privatized infrastructures in Nigeria doing? |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 7:03am On Aug 10, 2014 |
ignorance is a great disease, privatization is the best form of economics system albeit in Nigeria where it was poorly and corruptly executed none the less it has achieve better results than what communism would ever have a good example is the communication sector I bet 90% of you lots who are here ranting about privatization would ever have been able to do that cos communication would have been mainly for the rich. I also have strong believe that other sector will catch up soon imaging if our power sector had been privatized since year 2000 will it still be all blackout has it is today or which private company would invest #20b without any substantial results |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by iamodenigbo1(m): 11:28am On Aug 10, 2014 |
I am following this topic with reason,don't mention |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 1:15pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
[size=22pt]Did you not remember Thief Obasanjo's privatisation was simply to sell everything to himself for pennies and pocket the profits. Did you buy into his lies that privatisation would make the industries perform better? How do you think he gets the money to afford to be constantly flying around the world?[/size] |
Re: What Has Privatization Brought Nigeria Since 2000? by Nobody: 2:03am On Aug 18, 2014 |
eliment: ignorance is a great disease, privatization is the best form of economics system albeit in Nigeria where it was poorly and corruptly executed none the less it has achieve better results than what communism would ever have a good example is the communication sector I bet 90% of you lots who are here ranting about privatization would ever have been able to do that cos communication would have been mainly for the rich. I also have strong believe that other sector will catch up soon imaging if our power sector had been privatized since year 2000 will it still be all blackout has it is today or which private company would invest #20b without any substantial results Lame |
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