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Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Nobody: 2:05am On Feb 15, 2013
The Presidency on Thursday said President Goodluck Jonathan could not sack the Chairman of the Pension Reform Task Team, Mr. Abdulrasheed Maina.

Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Dr. Reuben Abati, said Maina is a civil servant and that his fate could only be decided according to the civil service procedure.

Another spokesman for Jonathan, the President’s Senior Special Assistant on Public Affairs, Dr. Doyin Okupe, said the Presidency had referred Maina’s case to the Office of Head of Service of the Federation.

Also on Thursday, the Inspector-General of Police, Mohammed Abubakar, said Maina was still on the run.

The Senate had on Wednesday gave Jonathan a two-day ultimatum within which to sack the PRTT boss from the Federal Civil Service.

The upper legislative chamber said Jonathan would need to choose between the Senate and Maina, threatening that the legislature had teeth to bite.

“The executive has to choose between the Senate and Maina. He has crucified himself. If Maina remains, then the Senate would react appropriately,” Senate President, David Mark, had said after a debate on a motion entitled, “Dismissal of Mr. Abdulrasheed Maina for refusal to appear before the Senate.”

The debate was sponsored by the Leader of the Senate, Victor Ndoma-Egba (SAN), and 107 senators, urging Jonathan to sack Maina from the public service. The Senate has 109 members.

The two-day ultimatum ends on Friday (today).

But Abati said Jonathan did not possess the power to personally discipline civil servants.

He said, “Maina is a civil servant. If he has done something that amounts to a breach of civil service rule, the appropriate office to do the right thing and ensure that due process is followed is the office of the Head of Service of the Federation.”

The presidential spokesman said that Jonathan believed in due process.

“There are laid down procedures for handling situations like this. The President believes in due process. We don’t have to worry ourselves. It is a matter for the civil service to handle. The President does not have to be disciplining civil servants personally,” adding, “Nobody should suggest that the President is backing Maina. It is not an issue for the President.”

Abati however acknowledged that the Senate had constitutional right to summon anybody and the right to declare such a person wanted if he failed to appear before the lawmakers.

He said only the Head of Service of the Federation, Isa Saleh, could take any action on Maina.

Abati said, “The Senate has constitutional power to summon anybody. If such a person fails to appear before them, the lawmakers are also empowered to issue a warrant of arrest against the person.

“The President has not in any way stood in the way of the Senate in inviting Maina. You will recall that the police even declared him wanted.”

Okupe however told journalists in Abuja, “The relationship with the leadership of the Senate and the President of the Senate is such that cannot be tampered with on the altar of favouritism to anybody.

“The President and the Presidency hold the leadership of the Senate in highest esteem and will not do anything to spoil that relationship.

“The issue of Maina has been referred to the head of service.

“Maina is a civil servant and I believe that the matter will be thoroughly investigated and disciplinary action will be effected.”

But the IG explained that the pension task force boss was still on the run and that the police were ready to execute the warrant for his arrest. He called on the public to avail the Police with useful information that could lead to his arrest.

The Senate had on Wednesday summoned Abubakar over his refusal to apprehend Maina.

But the IG, who spoke through the Deputy Force Public Relations Officer, Frank Mba, in Abuja on Thursday, said the police had yet to arrest Maina because he was in hiding.

Abubakar denied that Maina had police guards.

He said, “If you are conversant with policing tradition, you will understand that the declaration of any person wanted is usually necessitated by a need. In this instance, he (Maina) was declared wanted because he went into hiding and made it difficult for the force to execute a warrant of arrest that was legitimately issued.

“And the Nigeria Police Force remains irrevocably committed to finding him and as soon as we lay our hands on him, we will arrest him and take him before the Senate as has been mandated in that warrant of arrest.”

On allegation that Maina was still having policemen guarding him, the IG said, “Maina has no police officer in his entourage to the best of my knowledge. And again media practitioners are responsible members of the society and even in that declaration and in the press release that we issued declaring Maina a wanted man, we did say that if any citizen that has information that could help us in executing that order, the person should please pass that information to the appropriate authority. So if you have information that could help us in executing this warrant of arrest, we will be glad to receive it from you.”

Meanwhile, civil rights groups on Thursday berated the Presidency in its handling of the controversy surrounding the PRTT boss.

The groups, including the Campaign for Democracy and the Anti-Corruption Coalition of Nigeria, accused the Presidency of shielding the embattled pension task force chairman.

The Executive Secretary of ACCN, Mr. Dino Melaye, said, “It is obvious that the Presidency is shielding Maina. This government is the promoter of corruption and corrupt persons. Obviously Maina did not steal alone; he has police, SSS following him everywhere.

“A sincere government would have sacked or suspend him since. This government is growing from being a weak government to becoming a wicked government. Let us see what the President will do on this.

“It is only thieves without presidential connections who fear the law in Nigeria,” the CD President, Dr. Joe Okei-Odumakin, said in her reaction to the Maina issue. http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathan-cant-sack-maina-presidency/
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by idlaw2k3(m): 7:09am On Feb 15, 2013
The police say they cant find Maina but he drives around in a convoy. He also recently recieved the president at the airport. He still recieves salary without stepping into his office yet the presidency cannot condemm his action or dismiss him. This is serious.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by idlaw2k3(m): 7:34am On Feb 15, 2013
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by nuclearboy(m): 7:38am On Feb 15, 2013
I just find this President to be an amazing human! Now he "believes" in due process? Yet when 2 Trillion was used when the federal (signed into law) budget for subsidy, was 300billion, there was no due process and rule of law?

Why not simply sack Maina and allow the senate its day? It truly is as if once you steal billions under this government, you are above the law!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Ngwakwe: 7:48am On Feb 15, 2013
This our democracy is becoming far more better than Gen. Buhari's military rule.

The era where too much power lies in the hand of one man is over.

Institutionalized rule of Law is the way forward, no matter who is elected President. There must be a laid down procedure for resolving issues in a Constitutional democracy.

Things are getting better in Nigeria.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by maasoap(m): 8:02am On Feb 15, 2013
Of all the clean and competent people from the South South, how did we end up with this wicked and corrupt Jona? OBJ, you no do well o. You imposed a sick man and a clueless man on us.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by FrankC3: 8:39am On Feb 15, 2013
A very powerful man once said that power is deemed more powerful when sparingly used.

The Senate only have powers to summon and issue arrest warrant, not to convict. If Maina is arrested and dragged to the Senate house today, the question is what next. There are far more intelligent ways to handle certain things. Does it mean that Maina's present office is shielding him from prosecution that he must be sacked before being prosecuted or is sacking the punishment ad[i]-JUDGED[/i] adequate by the senate as the right price for his offense?

The Presidency is very correct, at least on paper. Every right thinking person knows that the civil service is one of the toughest places to sack a confirmed employee, not even a cleaner. This was built in by the same Senate to shield civil servants from political victimization. If Maina is sacked today, he will go to court and will easily win his case unless he is disciplined by the civil service following the established procedure.

I've got no love for Maina but our Senators should stop behaving like the lower house. They are meant to be more mature and less exuberant. First, refer their case to EFCC/ICPC, mount political pressure on these executive agencies to get quick results. These agencies will then charge the man to court and possibly convict him if found guilty. But no!, they want their ego massaged...and immediately!!!

But more importantly is the way the Senate is going about this whole issue. They are being unnecessarily emotional and taking it very personal. They have now opened themselves up to more loopholes. One civil servant- Maina- has held a 109 member Senate captive and they are crying like babies to the President to help them save face by pushing the police and sacking the man as if we are in the military era. Next time they want to use their powers of summon, they should first seek better and more mature ways of handling the issue. Again, power is deemed more powerful when sparingly used.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Mandelaguy(m): 9:01am On Feb 15, 2013
nuclearboy: I just find this President to be an amazing human! Now he "believes" in due process? Yet when 2 Trillion was used when the federal (signed into law) budget for subsidy, was 300billion, there was no due process and rule of law?

Why not simply sack Maina and allow the senate its day? It truly is as if once you steal billions under this government, you are above the law!
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maasoap: Of all the clean and competent people from the South South, how did we end up with this wicked and corrupt Jona? OBJ, you no do well o. You imposed a sick man and a clueless man on us.
uote author=idlaw2k3] A bunch of clueless people, that is what all of the above are. How will you sit at your homes and operate on hearsay, do you have a copy of your state civil service rules? Do you have a copy of the federal civil service rule and also a copy of the civil service act and labour documents? You jump from one post to the other running a smear campaign on a man that has done nothing to offend you. People are not just sacked or dismissed if they are not political appointees, if you are a career civil servant, there are rules and processes to follow. The Presidency is very right, they cannot sack Maina, the head of service has such duties, and mind you, the head of service cannot just sack him, a probe and disciplinary committee has to be set, he will not even be a member, they will sit, looknatvthe evidences, investigate if need be and recommend. This is democracy, even the Military convenes an orderly room trial before dismissal if found guilty. No body sacks a civil servant just like that, unless you are willing to be dragged to court and have the hunted become the hunter, follow due process and stop coming here to make fools of yourselves. Swallats!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Mandelaguy(m): 9:04am On Feb 15, 2013
idlaw2k3: The police say they cant find Maina but he drives around in a convoy. He also recently recieved the president at the airport. He still recieves salary without stepping into his office yet the presidency cannot condemm his action or dismiss him. This is serious.
were you on surveillance or have you just turned to a certified national rumour monger? Get a true life.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by maasoap(m): 9:43am On Feb 15, 2013
@Manhandle or whatever you called yourself, Is it not obvious to you and other Nigerans that the presidency was protecting and shielding Maina from the long arm of the law because he was stealing and diverting the recovered pension fund to them. All in the name of 2015 PDP primary. And for the record, no one here is saying that the presidency shouldn't follow due process. But to come here and tell us that the president Jona is not shielding him only proves that you're not sincere with yourself.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Mandelaguy(m): 9:45am On Feb 15, 2013
maasoap: @Manhandle or whatever you called yourself, Is it not obvious to you and other Nigerans that the presidency was protecting and shielding Maina from the long arm of the law because he was stealing and diverting the recovered pension fund to them. All in the name of 2015 PDP primary. And for the record, no one here is saying that the presidency shouldn't follow due process. But to come here and tell us that the president Jona is not shielding him only proves that you're not sincere with yourself.
I like accusations with proof, do you have any? I guess non, so STFU

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by jaso1(m): 10:09am On Feb 15, 2013
@Mandelaguy,
You are the highest mumu in the planet.
What gave you this devilish utterance that paves you into laughing stock?
It's very obvious that the country is being run with highest corruption; this can be access everywhere in the sphere of present regime. What else do you need to accept this fact?
I pity Nigerians! With the way things are run, is very obvious that corruption will be institutionalized, to be subsequently enact into Nigeria academy syllabus.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by takedat(m): 10:27am On Feb 15, 2013
While I believe the president can wield his executive powers to order for the sack of Maina if he(Maina) is found to have breached the civil service rule, the president should be given the benefit of doubt since he has referred the matter to the HOS. We can only castigate him if the HOS failed to look into it, which will mean the executive is shrouding him. An allegation from vindictive National assembly members comprising of treasury looters and bribery takers turned law makers is no reason to outrightly call for his sack without following due process!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Mandelaguy(m): 10:40am On Feb 15, 2013
jas_o: @Mandelaguy,
You are the highest mumu in the planet.
What gave you this devilish utterance that paves you into laughing stock?
It's very obvious that the country is being run with highest corruption; this can be access everywhere in the sphere of present regime. What else do you need to accept this fact?
I pity Nigerians! With the way things are run, is very obvious that corruption will be institutionalized, to be subsequently enact into Nigeria academy syllabus.
I don't blame you, I blame NL for allowing everybody peddle any form of lie. Enjoy your delusional analysis.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Tyche(m): 11:03am On Feb 15, 2013
Nice talk frank

Frank-C:
A very powerful man once said that power is deemed more powerful when sparingly used.

The Senate only have powers to summon and issue arrest warrant, not to convict. If Maina is arrested and dragged to the Senate house today, the question is what next. There are far more intelligent ways to handle certain things. Does it mean that Maina's present office is shielding him from prosecution that he must be sacked before being prosecuted or is sacking the punishment ad[i]-JUDGED[/i] adequate by the senate as the right price for his offense?

The Presidency is very correct, at least on paper. Every right thinking person knows that the civil service is one of the toughest places to sack a confirmed employee, not even a cleaner. This was built in by the same Senate to shield civil servants from political victimization. If Maina is sacked today, he will go to court and will easily win his case unless he is disciplined by the civil service following the established procedure.

I've got no love for Maina but our Senators should stop behaving like the lower house. They are meant to be more mature and less exuberant. First, refer their case to EFCC/ICPC, mount political pressure on these executive agencies to get quick results. These agencies will then charge the man to court and possibly convict him if found guilty. But no!, they want their ego massaged...and immediately!!!

But more importantly is the way the Senate is going about this whole issue. They are being unnecessarily emotional and taking it very personal. They have now opened themselves up to more loopholes. One civil servant- Maina- has held a 109 member Senate captive and they are crying like babies to the President to help them save face by pushing the police and sacking the man as if we are in the military era. Next time they want to use their powers of summon, they should first seek better and more mature ways of handling the issue. Again, power is deemed more powerful when sparingly used.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by tomakint: 11:56am On Feb 15, 2013
A real respecter of the rule of law, ride on President Jonathan! Most Nigerians are fond of crying more than the bereaved, as if we have no laid down rules that can be consulted. I am with the Presidency on this cool Let the rule of law prevails!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Dpeacemaker101: 12:06pm On Feb 15, 2013
The senate seats and make lots of nois. Meanwhile there hands are soiled with corruption and bribery. They should take the matter to the appropriate quarters, and stoping making noise.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Dpeacemaker101: 12:11pm On Feb 15, 2013
take dat: While I believe the president can wield his executive powers to order for the sack of Maina if he(Maina) is found to have breached the civil service rule, the president should be given the benefit of doubt since he has referred the matter to the HOS. We can only castigate him if the HOS failed to look into it, which will mean the executive is shrouding him. An allegation from vindictive National assembly members comprising of treasury looters and bribery takers turned law makers is no reason to outrightly call for his sack without following due process!

I believe those rogues that call themselves senators know where there problems are coming from, and they should tackle it within themselves and stop making shows.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by tefund(m): 12:28pm On Feb 15, 2013
nuclearboy: I just find this President to be an amazing human! Now he "believes" in due process? Yet when 2 Trillion was used when the federal (signed into law) budget for subsidy, was 300billion, there was no due process and rule of law?

Why not simply sack Maina and allow the senate its day? It truly is as if once you steal billions under this government, you are above the law!

the more reason why he should not be reelected.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Nobody: 12:29pm On Feb 15, 2013
Due process indeed,GEJ is indeed a clown.

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Symphony007: 12:31pm On Feb 15, 2013
The nigerian national assembly is full of dull people. They don't know how to govern. What is this case doing on the house floor. Is'n there a senate or house commitee on the civil service? Summon the head of the civil service and demand answers and if you are not satisfied, the commitee has the constitutionla right to have a contempt vote on the head of the civil service. This is how government is run, the president is not a king so stop directing all your griviances at him!!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Dollarman101: 12:31pm On Feb 15, 2013
Frank-C:
A very powerful man once said that power is deemed more powerful when sparingly used.

The Senate only have powers to summon and issue arrest warrant, not to convict. If Maina is arrested and dragged to the Senate house today, the question is what next. There are far more intelligent ways to handle certain things. Does it mean that Maina's present office is shielding him from prosecution that he must be sacked before being prosecuted or is sacking the punishment ad[i]-JUDGED[/i] adequate by the senate as the right price for his offense?

The Presidency is very correct, at least on paper. Every right thinking person knows that the civil service is one of the toughest places to sack a confirmed employee, not even a cleaner. This was built in by the same Senate to shield civil servants from political victimization. If Maina is sacked today, he will go to court and will easily win his case unless he is disciplined by the civil service following the established procedure.

I've got no love for Maina but our Senators should stop behaving like the lower house. They are meant to be more mature and less exuberant. First, refer their case to EFCC/ICPC, mount political pressure on these executive agencies to get quick results. These agencies will then charge the man to court and possibly convict him if found guilty. But no!, they want their ego
massaged...and immediately!!!

But more importantly is the way the Senate is going about this whole issue. They are being unnecessarily emotional and taking it very personal. They have now opened themselves up to more
loopholes. One civil servant- Maina- has held a 109 member Senate captive and they are crying like babies to the President to help them save face by pushing the police and sacking the man
as if we are in the military era. Next time they want to use their powers of summon, they should first seek better and more mature ways of handling the issue. Again, power is deemed more
powerful when sparingly used.

Please help me tell these rogues, that think they are deceiving Nigerians.
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Nobody: 12:33pm On Feb 15, 2013
Teeth 2 bite huh. Why save them al dez while d country hs bin sacrificd on d alter of corruption. Abeg, go sidon "Haluunable Sicknators"
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Nobody: 12:43pm On Feb 15, 2013
Okay
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Mandelaguy(m): 12:47pm On Feb 15, 2013
People who are not informed keep embarrassing us with their ignorance. My brother, thank you for reminding them that the is a committee on civil service and also that the president is not a king, they should go and get schooled on governance. Rabble rousers!

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by vanstanzy(m): 12:54pm On Feb 15, 2013
GEJ swore an oat when he hired Maina, not to sack him. *Thinking aloud!*

Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by oddy4real(m): 12:57pm On Feb 15, 2013
take dat: While I believe the president can wield his executive powers to order for the sack of Maina if he(Maina) is found to have breached the civil service rule, the president should be given the benefit of doubt since he has referred the matter to the HOS. We can only castigate him if the HOS failed to look into it, which will mean the executive is shrouding him. An allegation from vindictive National assembly members comprising of treasury looters and bribery takers turned law makers is no reason to outrightly call for his sack without following due process!
I never knew I would say this BUT you have made sense. I hope Gbawe, Demdem and co would learn from u

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by Nobody: 12:59pm On Feb 15, 2013
Tell it to the birds sir
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by TechRev: 1:02pm On Feb 15, 2013
What offence did Mr Maina commit if i may ask??
Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by nuclearboy(m): 1:07pm On Feb 15, 2013
Mandelaguy: People who are not informed keep embarrassing us with their ignorance. My brother, thank you for reminding them that the is a committee on civil service and also that the president is not a king, they should go and get schooled on governance. Rabble rousers!

Some of you wear a human look whist operating catfish mentality!

So, governance as you put it, allows you spend 2.7 trillion when the law approved 300 billion! - thus governance allows corruption!

It is only when the highest law making body indicts a criminal public servant for the loss of over a hundred billion that the law insists the criminal should be protected, not only by allowing him refuse to face the senate, but also insisting that the man who spent 2.7 trillion without asking approval, can NOW claim rule of law to avoid punishing such!

Ever heard the term "waste of space"? That's what you are for stating such idiocy

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Re: Jonathan Can't Sack Maina – Presidency by idlaw2k3(m): 1:09pm On Feb 15, 2013
Mandelaguy: People who are not informed keep embarrassing us with their ignorance. My brother, thank you for reminding them that the is a committee on civil service and also that the president is not a king, they should go and get schooled on governance. Rabble rousers!

Are you supporting Maina's actions? He is the chairman of the pension reform task team. He refused to appear before the senate committee when summoned to brief the house on his findings and clear the air on the allegations raised against him. He rather went to the press claiming the senators wanted to collect money from him. He was invited 5 times to substantiate his claims but he went into hiding. Why is he hiding if his hands are clean? Even if he is innocent his actions are not only disrespectful to the Senate but also an affront to the Nation in General.

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