Nuzo':
Recently, I read a thread about how APC and Buhari might present Tambuwal and Fashola for president. Some people kicked against it stating that the duo are both muslims. Their reason being that the distrust between muslims and christians have deepened in recent times.

Some APC members welcomed this idea. However, this group of people couldn't come up with why they are in support of these duo, instead, they quickly labeled the disagreeing party tribalists and religious bigots.

Now, the question is; why Tambuwal? Somebody who is a known PDP stalwart a choice of these same people who've been condemning PDP? What has he achieved more than other numerous APC members from different zones of the country? Does it mean that sometimes these undue bashing of PDP is a way to get to GEJ and southsouthners? Otherwise, what's the difference between Tambuwal and GEJ?

Some of these covert tribalist have asked the other group to point out any other credible and sellable APC candidate in the south east/south.



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... And pair him ( Ngige ) with a VP they think is the best from SW and North.



What will go wrong with Ngige/Ribadu candidate? Utomi/Ribadu candidate?

In their eyes, there's nothing wrong in openly stating that Igbos and s/southerners should be excluded from APC and have Hausas and Yorubas take charge of the country. However, one is labeled a tribalist the moment he/she thinks otherwise.

More surprising is when some knowledgeable Nlanders accuse GEJ of dividing Nigerians votes along ethnic and religious lines. They forgot that Buhari has asked muslims to vote for muslims in 2011 elections. He also didn't bother to campaign in the southeast and s/south.

Bottomline is that APC is a welcome development so far its not an instrument of tribalism and religious fundamentalism as some members are showing already.
And to prove all of us wrong, they should present ACN's Ngige as the presidential candidate.

Nuzo':
Recently, I read a thread about how APC and Buhari might present Tambuwal and Fashola for president. Some people kicked against it stating that the duo are both muslims. Their reason being that the distrust between muslims and christians have deepened in recent times.

Some APC members welcomed this idea. However, this group of people couldn't come up with why they are in support of these duo, instead, they quickly labeled the disagreeing party tribalists and religious bigots.

Now, the question is; why Tambuwal? Somebody who is a known PDP stalwart a choice of these same people who've been condemning PDP? What has he achieved more than other numerous APC members from different zones of the country? Does it mean that sometimes these undue bashing of PDP is a way to get to GEJ and southsouthners? Otherwise, what's the difference between Tambuwal and GEJ?

Some of these covert tribalist have asked the other group to point out any other credible and sellable APC candidate in the



What will go wrong with Ngige/Ribadu candidate? Utomi/Ribadu candidate?

In their eyes, there's nothing wrong in openly stating that Igbos and s/southerners should be excluded from APC and have Hausas and Yorubas take charge of the country. However, one is labeled a tribalist the moment he/she thinks otherwise.

More surprising is when some knowledgeable Nlanders accuse GEJ of dividing Nigerians votes along ethnic and religious lines. They forgot that Buhari has asked muslims to vote for muslims in 2011 elections. He also didn't bother to campaign in the southeast and s/south.

Bottomline is that APC is a welcome development so far its not an instrument of tribalism and religious fundamentalism as some members are showing already.
And to prove all of us wrong, they should present ACN's Ngige as the presidential candidate.

alj harem: why not Rocahas ? Why must he be anambran always ?

Onlytruth: Nuzo strikes at the heart of the truth, and tribalist/sectionist/religious supremacists/exclusionists take to their heels!

I second Nuzo's question: WHY NOT NGIGE?

peckhamboi: I think Buhari/Fashola or Buhari/Oshiomole remains the most reasonable choice if APC wants to win in 2015 given

that Ohanaeze and other Igbo leaders have already endorsed Jonathan for 2015 and I don't see how Ngige who won his

senatorial election by only 210 votes can deliver the whole South East region for the APC. It's not a risk worth taking.

alj harem: why not Rocahas ? Why must he be anambran always ?

alj harem:

Fair enough, Ok what does Ngige bring to the table apart from getting (which I hope) MAJORITY (Emphasis on MAJORITY) of SEern states and according to myopic people on this site he is not a muslim.

Ngige seem to be a rather lay-back man unlike likes of Rochas and Fashola or Ribadu. You see, in any combination (I hope you are being objective cos I want to be here) apart from the ethnical and religious issue, we need to ensure the the merger is not just another fake government waiting to have their own share.

That was why I strong was against Tinubu. Now Ngige might fill all the criteria for the SE but not for Nigeria. Remember Nigerians ARE TIRED OF THIS ETHNIC THING AND WANT DEVELOPMENT,
THE SUFFERING IS TOO MUCH.
Ngige is a true warrior, he has the boldness of a lion. He is one of the few political Davids who could dare to challenge a political Goliath and acheive his set objectives for his people.
Nna i be Yoruba o, i no be Igbo. But you no what Ngige rocks.

Fashola/Ribadu or Fashola/Rochas fits intoo this well

Fashola is very discipline and so is RibadU, Roachas on the other hand is more pro-masses whoch cna be a balance for Ribadu or Fashola's tough laws.

0lumide: Ngige is not even interested in going. Onlytruth saying only bigotry will not allow people to vote for Ngige.

Isn't bigotry the reason you are picking Ngige even though he doesn't belong in your PDP party? Isn't bigotry the reason you want a Christian president?

Isn't bigotry the reason you don't want a Northerner?

Isn't bigotry the reason your advocated options for presidency on this site has been South-easterners?

Isn't it bigotry? Isn't it bigotry? Isn't it bigotry?

You out of bigotry accuse others of bigotry and you expect the nation to favour all?

I will be honest with you, no candidate in the east is "sellable" yet. And that strictly strategical and if you take bigotry out of your senses you will understand that Ribadu has better chances than any candidate from east, so does Fashola. Name one performer from east since 1999 that is still active in politics and can win election. Don't mention Okonjo Iweala or Soludo because they are stained by their own actions. Tinubu had ambitions of going for presidency but I think he knows that he can't win and he isn't sellable. Same goes for Ngige that is why they are in the fore front of things in their party. Take bigotry off your mind and you'll see SE doesn't have a consensus candidate candidate that deliver even SE.

Being a performer is not a criteria at all but I will have to give hats to Ribadu for contesting the 2011 elections even though he knew he can't win. He has more chances of winning the 2015 election than even Fashola. That was a strategic stance he took and to be honest, that strategy is making Ribadu the favourite of the party even more than Fashola. If it's not Buhari/Fashola, it has to be Ribadu/Fashola. Name a candidate with better chances in the party from the east.

alj harem: Its like you people just hate Yorubas from the deep of your hearts . If gej does constant electricity then very good, he would be voted for. In the Sw, there are still some pro gej. The fact just remains gej is slow and we need an active president just like Awolowo did for the west. Ojukwu said it himself that he wished Awolowo was the president and others such as the iddeiot above this comment are blinded by tribalism. Look if apc present fashola in any combo, they would win. Mark these words.

peckhamboi:

Can you provide a lucid reference for the bolded such as where and when he said that, I will end my support for Buhari immediately,

but if you can't may God punish you severely for trying to swiftboat an innocent man.

peckhamboi:

You made a statement and I asked you to back it up with facts but you couldn't instead you are deflecting from the point.

I say again that if the statement you made up there is false, may God punish you severely and Sango and Amadioha strike you join too like Rayden.

Foolish Man.

Onlytruth: Nuzo strikes at the heart of the truth, and tribalist/sectionist/religious supremacists/exclusionists take to their heels!

I second Nuzo's question: WHY NOT NGIGE?

ekt_bear:

An excellent question.

Mindboggling to me that they'd even consider fielding a PDP guy.

kingoflag: Because Ngige and his bloc cannot be trusted.

Because when GEJ first became President, Ngige went against his party and deviated to supporting his tribe when there was talks on who should become Speaker.

Because even if Ngige was put forward those who are being touted as potential votes will abandon him and suddenly remember that Buhari, Fashola and Tinubu are founding and influential members of APC.

Because, quite frankly, Ngige lacks the political might to win votes on a countrywide scale.

Finally, because we recognize the games y'all trying to play. APC puts Ngige forward and people like you will still abandon him and give PDP 99.8% votes.

Nuzo':


Unbelievable!

I can assure you that you are doing APC a disservice by spitting out these ridiculous, false and double standard submissions.

All of a sudden, your own very Ngige cannot be trusted? On what basis? Is it that you guys are afraid he doesn't believe in godfatherism?

Well, this topic was not about Ngige vs Buhari or Fashiola. It was about why some fare weather Nairaland political pundists would prefer their known enemy Okorocha over their teh teh love Ngige.

Nobody has been able to come forth with a reasonable explanation.

kingoflag: Who are you and where do I know u from? I am doing APC a disservice? Magician, you know my political
leanings now? You know if I even care about any of the Mafia families parading as political parties in Nigeria? Have you and I ever sat down to discuss politics, that you all of a sudden know from my statement up top that I'm a staunch APC supporter? Bros, abeg, face front and keep it moving. I made a neutral permutation why I think Ngige would be a bad choice for the new party, nothing more. Please, stay away from me. Thanks in advance.



P.S: The only reason I'll support APC and wish them luck is if they field Buhari as Presidential candidate. That's my hope, therein my allegiance lies.

Josh090:
Why not you shut your face? Why must you be so clannish all the daMN time? Always thinking about what's in it for us, bloody tribalist.

I never supported Ngige in this election; I supported Akunyili of APGA. Though he is saying the truth here.

Ngige should decamp to APGA (though I know he would never do so because APGA really demands feedback from electorates!), falling which he will not get re-elected in 2015. Ngige should thread cautiously here because he could become like the proverbial bat. We have Igbo PDP members. Why are they all keeping quiet? GREED.

ACN never made sense to a lot of us. Now, he is already feeling lonely there. He may lose his ACN friends and be swept out of Igboland alongside his PDP secret lovers.

This is very dissapointing from Ngige. As a prominent ACN member , he has no business telling the PDP how they should conduct their internal Party affairs . It is never done anywhere in the World by opposition politicians. He cannot really view himself as ideologically opposed to the PDP when he is highly concerned , to the point he speaks out openly, with who the ruling party appoint to certain positions.

Nuzo':
Recently, I read a thread about how APC and Buhari might present Tambuwal and Fashola for president. Some people kicked against it stating that the duo are both muslims. Their reason being that the distrust between muslims and christians have deepened in recent times.

Some APC members welcomed this idea. However, this group of people couldn't come up with why they are in support of these duo, instead, they quickly labeled the disagreeing party tribalists and religious bigots.

Now, the question is; why Tambuwal? Somebody who is a known PDP stalwart a choice of these same people who've been condemning PDP? What has he achieved more than other numerous APC members from different zones of the country? Does it mean that sometimes these undue bashing of PDP is a way to get to GEJ and southsouthners? Otherwise, what's the difference between Tambuwal and GEJ?

Some of these covert tribalist have asked the other group to point out any other credible and sellable APC candidate in the south east/south.

What will go wrong with Ngige/Ribadu candidate? Utomi/Ribadu candidate?

In their eyes, there's nothing wrong in openly stating that Igbos and s/southerners should be excluded from APC and have Hausas and Yorubas take charge of the country. However, one is labeled a tribalist the moment he/she thinks otherwise.

More surprising is when some knowledgeable Nlanders accuse GEJ of dividing Nigerians votes along ethnic and religious lines. They forgot that Buhari has asked muslims to vote for muslims in 2011 elections. He also didn't bother to campaign in the southeast and s/south.

Bottomline is that APC is a welcome development so far its not an instrument of tribalism and religious fundamentalism as some members are showing already.
And to prove all of us wrong, they should present ACN's Ngige as the presidential candidate.

Gbawe:

Him and OP are nothing buy that at all because there is no way, according to merit, anyone would pick Ngige ahead of many others available. They spend their time insulting "Tinubu", "Aregberascal" "flower planter" Fashola" "Boko Haramish" Buhari here every single second of the day. These people have now convened a Party consisting of an aggregate of their Parties and you want to dictate to them who they should field , especially the insult of suggesting your own undeserving kinsman, when all you have for the conveners 24/7 of the time is insult and open disdain? Is there anything more two-faced, duplicitous and more downright bigoted than that? Insult and alienate others 24/7 plus mock their deliberate effort yet now want to benefit from that effort via shoving aside those who worked hard for the merger. Ngige ko Ngige ni.

He failed to stand and be counted when called upon. Also it counts against him that he showed political immaturity speaking forcefully on PDP affair that does not concern him. This made many of his peers see him as unprincipled. We even discussed that here where some of us chided about the folly of his actions. Noteworthy that bigoted Onlylies was there contributing myopic and clannish garbage.

I am even surprised these guys have the mouth to comment on APC affairs but then again that shows the lack of honour and lack of principles many operate with. I just wonder the sort of homes these guys come out of. Absolutely conniving and treacherous yet they go around saying others are more guilty of that. Look below at Ngige demanding that PDP chairmanship be zoned to the SE. As usual the clannish dolts saw nothing wrong with it while some of us , because we are consistent, upright and devoted to what is right, told them this was politically condemnable behaviour. If those sort of conduct have scarred Ngige, they will never look at the man's behaviour they backed foolishly and myopically. They would rather start playing the ethnic card. Worthless bigots.

mastro:

What's wrong with Ngige, nothing apart from everything, Only in Nigeria can a person of no personal integrity such as NGIGE stand for elective post and actually win, this is the person you think will move this country forward, was 2003 that long ago , lets assume you were a child then can't you google what happened

Josh090: Since this people want an Igbo president so much why not all Igbo politicians come together to form a party maybe alongside their SS brothers and present an igbo man/woman for the presidential election? Why must you always demand of others to do your bidding? Na una dey feed them?

Nuzo':


I could forgive your ethnic and religious bigotry cos that's what you have always believed in and stood for (though you try to sugar coat it these days). However,your unfounded lies, propaganda and hypocrisy is becoming tiring.

Why do you have accuse me of insulting Fashola in order to make a point? Where did I do so?
Instead, you have been the one insulting anyone who doesn't agree with your method of moving Nigeria forward. Your above quoted post is a typical example.

And I cannot remember calling Tinubu "Tinubu". I only called out your bigotry and hypocrisy by reminding you that your Saint Tinubu is no different from Anenih, Udenwa, Adesina, Kalu, Fani Kayode, Ohakim, Audu Ogbe, Bode George, IBB, Tukur, OBj and co.

As for Buhari, he's a known ethnic and religious bigot like you. He publicly asked Muslims to vote for only muslims. He also never campaigned in South east and south south during his last two elections....what does that tell you?

Coming to Ngige's matter, your supposed grudges against him doesn't hold water. So because he suggested that a certain position in PDP should go to south east makes him the worst human being in ACN's APC? But we are quick to sweep under the carpet somebody who sold ACN's vote to PDP for over N2biilion?

To be honest with you Gbawe, you are a very sad and dishonest being. Your post of insults, hypocrisy, lies and mega propaganda says it all.
You can only convince your egostical self with this method.

mastro:

What's wrong with Ngige, nothing apart from everything, Only in Nigeria can a person of no personal integrity such as NGIGE stand for elective post and actually win, this is the person you think will move this country forward, was 2003 that long ago , lets assume you were a child then can't you google what happened

Gbawe:

Sharrap fool. Everyone is a bigot to you when your utterances leaves no one in doubt who the real bigot is i.e you and yours. I don't know what Ngige has at this point you would be touting him as President if not for the latent bigotry that moves you and others to always make everything about your ethnic group. Your choice of Ngige cannot be justified on any political ground at all. It is a choice you make out of your predilection for overt tribalism. Stop digging a bigger hole for yourself mentioning Buhari simply becuase I spoke in favour of Buhari the other day.

If we are to even remove Buhari, tell us how Ngige ,on any ground, is now meritoriously above Ribadu, Fashola, Oshiomhole and many others. When has Ngige actively ever worked for the merger? Go and sit down with your attention-seeking antics and stop disturbing united and hard-working people with your local-champion crap. When others showed they saw they bigger picture, folks like you contributed nothing but cynicism and an open disdain for everything and everyone. Now you want to dictate to others. You are nothing but a tribalistic and myopic loser.

Nuzo':


Your are always full of crappy propanga garnished with ethnic and religious bigotry!
Your hypocrital filled life is legendry.

Are you now pretending not to know the topic at hand? When did this topic become about Ngige versus Fashola, Buhari or Oshomole?

I asked a simple question. Why would you choose Okorocha of which your fellow conspirators have always hated over Ngige? Was he being used all these while?
How come you have all of a suden decleared Ngige politically irrelevant?

And for the records, I've never mentioned Ngige as my choice or not. I'm only asking a genuine question any concerned Nigerian should ask.

"Why Okorocha over Ngige?"

And who will deliver South east to APC...Tambuwal, Buhari or even Fashola?

Listen very carefully, I don't have any problem with APC fielding any of these guys. I just want to make it clear that your choice of them is simply born out sectionalism, tribalism and religious bigotism.

Let's just accept this and move on.

tomakint: In as much as I have my respect for the person of Chief Chris Ngige, I am cocck sure if fielded for the Presidential Aspirant of APC he will definitely pull crowd in the South east few crowd in the South west, limited supporters in the South-South, few supporters in the North-east, many supporters in the North-west and limited supporters in the North-central. The moral of the political calculation here is that Jonathan will still carry the day! Still tantamount to waste of efforts, I am watching

Gbawe:

Why do you deserve an answer when you are the same emotional child who lied that I "hated" Okorocha yesterday but suddenly support him today? You see, I don't believe in taking you , onlylies and others of your ilk seriously here because the unobjective hatred of others you carry around can never be exorcised from your thinking. It leads you to be judgemental, lie blatantly against others, malign character of others unthinkingly and to go around blaming others for all your problems.

That is why, without knowing my history, you prefer to wildly lie I was against Okorocha yesterday. To you, every Yoruba person hates you and yours. I have no time or use for closed-minded, clannish and myopic folks like you so stop wasting your time looking for answers from someone who does not give a damn what you and others like you think.

Nuzo':


He will pull crowd in south east but not in supposedly ACN and CPC strongholds?

Why?

This is getting more confusing and complicated.