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To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 6:10am On Feb 21, 2013 |
I submit this video for your consideration. I will give my comments later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51rR4aC9aMg |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by ooman(m): 8:03am On Feb 21, 2013 |
R Dawkins is becoming a terrorist atheist. He should take things slow. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 8:19am On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman: R Dawkins is becoming a terrorist atheist. He should take things slow.Heeehee.. coming from you, I'm pleasantly surprised.. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by ooman(m): 8:52am On Feb 21, 2013 |
musKeeto: why? |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 10:01am On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman:I think it is because he sees you as a staunch Dawkins fanboy as do I. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 10:06am On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman: R Dawkins is becoming a terrorist atheist. He should take things slow. lol.....for saying that we should mock ridiculous beliefs? Terrorist is not a word one should throw around lightly Did you watch the video |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by ooman(m): 10:07am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: that doesnt mean am not a "stauch dawkins fanboy" anymore |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by ooman(m): 10:09am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: yea i did, what he is getting at is stripping people of their right to be religious, and i think that is a such act |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 10:19am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Anyhoo, We have Ravi Zaccharia mistaking atheism for materialism and then playing the victim. He claims that Dawkins is an angry man. Did Dawkins look angry in the video played before him? He uses the analogy of people laughing at a madman in India to say that Dawkins is heartless and truly wicked if he mocks people who dont know better. However, he fails to see that his analogy is flawed. The people that Dawkins is talking about are people who know better. Dawkins doesnt believe that the religious people with ridiculous ideas are mad, he believes that the ideas are mad. If you dont want to be ridiculed, then dont hold ridiculous beliefs. Ravi Zaccharia uses the extreme example of the Fraud- Ahmeed Deedat who slapped a christian to make a point about the bible and ridicule him. Deedat didnt win any argument. Deedat only succeeded in humiliating a christian lecturer. Deedat would have won the argument if he simply pointed out flawed verses in the bible and told he fumbling lecturer to explain them. That would have been a victory of hearts and minds. Voilence doesnt win anything The Deedat example is another example of flawed thinking of Ravi. Z. You cant win the man without winning the argument first. When Dawkins says that one should ridicule religious beliefs, you will notice that Dawkins was specifically talking about ridiculous beliefs. There is mockery and there is insult through mockery. Dawkins is telling people to ridicule ridiculous beliefs with science and reason. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 10:20am On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman: You do realise that he was specificaly talking about ridiculous beliefs? He has said nothing different to what Sam Harris said about people believing in Elvis vs Religious beliefs when debating Rabbi Wolpe. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by ooman(m): 10:29am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: ok |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by mazaje(m): 10:31am On Feb 21, 2013 |
I am not a fan of Dawkins, but the two men in the video are completely deluded. . . |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 11:13am On Feb 21, 2013 |
lol....has Anony run away from his own thread? This is Anony's 3rd attempt to smear Dawkins. Will it succeed? |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 11:31am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: lol....has Anony run away from his own thread?lol, you need to get off Nairaland for a bit. Barely an hour has passed and you are already talking of "running away". As for your daddy G.O Dawkins, he smears himself well enough already. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 11:33am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Ah but you were online since then....you could have replied anytime within the hour. You know you have nothing to my rebuttal of Ravvi Zaccharia |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 11:35am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03:And there is a law that says I must reply to your "touch not my anointed" within an hour? Written where? If only you knew how fanatical you sound but since you insist, I will answer you 1 Like |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 11:36am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Do you just love to remix thins? Anonyism? Logicboy03: Mr_Anony: |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 11:55am On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Anyhoo,There are atheists that aren't materialist? Please show me. He claims that Dawkins is an angry man. Did Dawkins look angry in the video played before him?I don't know, did he look happy? He uses the analogy of people laughing at a madman in India to say that Dawkins is heartless and truly wicked if he mocks people who dont know better. However, he fails to see that his analogy is flawed. The people that Dawkins is talking about are people who know better. Dawkins doesnt believe that the religious people with ridiculous ideas are mad, he believes that the ideas are mad. If you dont want to be ridiculed, then dont hold ridiculous beliefs.Lol, In a similar way the Indians didn't think the man was mad, they merely thought his behaviour was mad. "If you don't want your actions to be mocked don't act madly". You have just put Dawkins in the same boat with the Indian scoffers. Besides if I remember correctly, Dawkins said "mock them, ridicule them!" The evidence is on video but don't let facts get in your way. Your daddy G.O must be defended at all cost. Ravi Zaccharia uses the extreme example of the Fraud- Ahmeed Deedat who slapped a christian to make a point about the bible and ridicule him. Deedat didnt win any argument. Deedat only succeeded in humiliating a christian lecturer. Deedat would have won the argument if he simply pointed out flawed verses in the bible and told he fumbling lecturer to explain them. That would have been a victory of hearts and minds. Voilence doesnt win anythingRavi Zaccharia uses the extreme example of the Fraud- Richard Dawkins who mocked a christian to make a point about the bible and ridicule him. Dawkins didnt win any argument. He only succeeded in humiliating a christian. Dawkins would have won the argument if he simply pointed out flawed verses in the bible and told he fumbling christian to explain them. That would have been a victory of hearts and minds. verbal abuse doesnt win anything The Deedat example is another example of flawed thinking of Ravi. Z. You cant win the man without winning the argument first. When Dawkins says that one should ridicule religious beliefs, you will notice that Dawkins was specifically talking about ridiculous beliefs. There is mockery and there is insult through mockery.. This is how Dawkins specifically urges people to ridicule beliefs: MOCK THEM, RIDICULE THEM!!! Don't you just love video |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 11:58am On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman:You just gained a little more respect from me |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 12:17pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
Anony, I love you menn! You never seem to stop coming out with lies/anonyisms/failed analogies and giving me the chance to debunk them. Mr_Anony: Are atheism and materialism the same thing? See how you misunderstand and remix things? Ravi says that an atheist has to be a materialist. Fail Atheists that believe that we are all spiritually connected by positive and negative energies (which can not be seen but determined by our minds) are materialists? I have given you some philosophy that cuts accross many Asian philosophies held by atheists. Mr_Anony: So you dont know? Then shut up. Tell your Ravi to shut up for calling Dawkins angry Mr_Anony: See the failed analogy? Is it not by behaviour that we determine a mad person? So a person dancing naked and cutting himself with stones on the street for no reason is not mad? The Indians in that story didnt think the person was mad? You are a sick twister! Dawkins on the other hand clearly stated that their beliefs are insane or something like that in the video. He talked about catholics believing in wine turning into blood and he says that we should seriously ask them if they truly believe that. "religion makes specific claims about the universe that need to be substantiated and need to be challenged"- Dawkins in the video. See how you fail in smearing Dawkins Mr_Anony: What verbal abuse did Dawkins engage in in that speech? Hmm? Liar? Which christain did he humiliate Didnt Dawkins use arguments in that video? You are a sick liar. . Mr_Anony: "religion makes specific claims about the universe that need to be substantiated and need to be challenged"- Dawkins in the video. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 2:03pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
Mehn, I wish I had a good enough signal to watch that vid. Though I can't say it's because lb is foaming at the mouth. That's pretty normal. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MrAnony1(m): 3:35pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Anony, I love you menn! You never seem to stop coming out with lies/anonyisms/failed analogies and giving me the chance to debunk them.Lolololol......logicboy slavishly defends his Daddy G.O. The video speaks for itself. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 3:38pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: lol......is that all you can say? #Anony fumbles again in smearing Dawkins for the third time. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 2:35am On Feb 22, 2013 |
ooman: For once... an atheist who truly gets the despicable double speak that atheists like logicboy traffic in. It is ok to be an atheist... to deny others the RIGHT to be religious is the same mindset that birthed the likes of Hitler and Pol Pot. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by MacDaddy01: 3:09am On Feb 22, 2013 |
davidylan: FAIL |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by cyrexx: 4:23am On Feb 22, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Ridiculous beliefs should be ridiculed. Simple. I never support personal attacks or ridicule of the person but JUST their RIDICULOUS BELIEFS. 1 Like
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Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 4:25am On Feb 22, 2013 |
cyrexx: Oh really? A lying sack of hypocrisy of the highest order. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by cyrexx: 4:33am On Feb 22, 2013 |
davidylan: Yes, what I said is true. Personally, I only return attacks when I'm attacked. I'm no hypocrite. You are the one lying against me here. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 4:35am On Feb 22, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Have we so quickly forgotten the mother of all ridicules? Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Don't you just love the Bible? :-D 1 Like |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 4:44am On Feb 22, 2013 |
cyrexx: this is plainly untrue. Of course you can sit here crying all day. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by Nobody: 4:45am On Feb 22, 2013 |
musKeeto: you have a choice to not read the bible. |
Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by cyrexx: 4:56am On Feb 22, 2013 |
davidylan: It's very true and you must be dreaming to think anyone is crying over your ad hominien and insults. Of course, you can sit here yapping your usual irrelevant nonsense. It's a free world. |
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