Fussbot: haha!bros abeg who got up first??him or arbeloa??IMO i even tink nani was in much pain than him...if u've played football,den u can imagine ursef in the air trying 2 control the ball and smbdy run 2 u 4rm ur blind side...besides,if nani had walked up 2 him and apologize,d ref mit even use dat as an excuse 2 send him off thinking nani was simulating...

elampiro:
That wasn't a red card offence. Most of the you are just commenting out of sentiments. This is what fifa law states:
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Playing in a Dangerous Manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is defined as any action that, while trying to play the ball,threatens injury to someone (including the player himself)
It is committed with an opponent nearby and prevents the opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury. The action becomes an offence only when an
opponent is adversely affected. A scissors or bicycle kick is permissible provided that, in the opinion of the referee, it is not dangerous to an opponent.
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Playing in a Dangerous Manner
Playing in a dangerous manner involves no physical contact between the players. If there is a physical contact, the action becomes a offence punishable with a direct free kick or penalty kick. In case of physical contact, the referee should carefully consider the high probability that
misconduct has also been committed.
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Playing in a Dangerous Manner
Disciplinary sanctions:
if a player plays in a dangerous manner in a “normal” challenge, the referee should not take any disciplinary action if the action is made with obvious risk of injury the referee should caution the player if a player denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity playing in a dangerous manner the referee should send off the player
Restart of play:
indirect free kick from the position where the offence occurred* if there is contact, a different offence has been committed, punishable by a direct free kick

The above rules are always there. Have you not been watching football to understand how these rules are executed on the pitch? If rules are to be used at the surface, why did United not awarded penalties for two handballs and foul for Man United in the Madrid 18 yard box. The rules said, when there is a contact. United players was brought down but the referee ignored it.
In the first, leg the Madrid last man brought down Evra's goal bound move towards one on one with the goal keeper. Why was the rule on last man committing foul not implemented?

Kingjames:

Tell that to the oceans If u were watching with ur mind & not wt sentiment, u'll kw dt Nani was actually simulating on the ground as if he had epilepsy attack in an attempt to con the ref. Did I hear pain? When you marched an opponent's chest wt the pin of ur boot on air who shld be in more pain? I respect u and expect u shld reason more than this. Btw I love nani as a player and hv always supported him but not on this one buddy.

Fabville:

That happens when you appoint a low profile refree for a high profile game such as this. The level of understanding of the laws by the refrees depends on how long hes been officiating and how many big games he has officiated. If the laws are not to be followed to the letter, then the question is "why did they establish those laws in the first play"? They should have allowed the refrees to use they discretion when officiating and if that is the case controvercies over decisions wouldn't have arose. Laws are made to be followed.

Marlbron: Guys its only a game. I doff my hat to Sir Alex for the strategy he brought to the game which stifled the freeflowing game of Madrid. There is no doubt the sending off changed the game as it enabled Mourinho to bring Madrid who changed the game with his masterful play. Lets analyse the goals.

The first goal -an own goal should not have stood. Van Persie was offside when the ball got to him, the kinsman missed that, and that gave Man U an advantage.

The challenge by Nani was a dangerous one, not helped by his simulation, which made the ref decision a very correct one. Had he accepted responsibility, he might have been lucky with a yellow. No matter, Nani saw Arbeola late and should have directed his leg away from Arbeola rather than aiming for his chest. The rule is clear- dangerous play, red card.

Now with the sending off, it was still 1-0 to the Red Devils. Why did Sir Alex not hold on to the lead?He missed a trick there. When Modricd was brought on, he failed to respond to that and still carried on as if the midfield was still on the same dynamics. That was a rare lapse of concentration by a great tacticIan, a great coach. ManU should have organized better and perhaps should not have conceeded. Being 10 man down does not mean you loose a game.

After the second goal, ManU brought in changes and were very determined and may have scored a goal or two. The day was saved by good goal keeping. The Red card, made it easier for Madrid, but Sir Alex playing to the crowd rather than focussing on strategy as Madrid brought Modric, may have cost ManU the match. And by the way, ManU fans, there is next year champions league which you are sure to play. Remember, the first goal should have been an offside call, so stay humble.

Kgdavid:


sorry bro but the bolded is just rubbish. wat exactly do you propose shuld have been done differently? from the off the team was set up to defend so the only possible change would have been an attacking one. bringin on an extra defender at 60 mins against real is the definition of suicide cuz then the pressure would be unbearable and with world class players they would be bound to score.you must realize that it took every single one of our 11 men to effectively defend as we did in the first half. wen real had the ball we exerted pressure from the front and squeezed them resulting a good number of misplaced passes and makin it easier for our defenders to repell real's players. losing one man simply granted them all the space they needed at the back....the two goals are evidence of that....the space that was available for that cross on the first goal simply was not there wen nani was on and modric certainly wouldnt have had that space to shoot prior to the sending off. there was nothin Fergie could do to respond to the modric substitution cuz like i said the only possible change would have been to throw on an attacker which is at happened wen real began to defend their lead. besides it was Modric for Khedira my friend...straight swap! there was no tactical change there! they threw on Pepe and we threw on Rooney. im strugglin to understand this rubbish yu wrote about sir alex playing to the crowd rather than reacting to the modric sub. in fact i am struggling to keep calm here. wat do u even mean?? are yu saying this because he encouraged the crowd to yell more? that is simple morale boosting 101....the great man knew we were in trouble and turned to the crowd- the famed 12th man advantage of every home team(in this case 11th man) for support. please go and write long stories about something else cuz yu sir do not know what yu are talking about here.

1025:

this is what i call, true confession. u were defending at home and wanted to progress on an own goal? haba, no be the same man u that ppl tell me that they are in form? are the english champions for nothing? how can u be in such an envieable position only to be undone by a third placed team in spain?
talking about defending, is defending ur game? how long did u watch chelsea video before putting it into work? in epl alone this season, man u won liverpool with an offside goal because evra headed the ball that deflected off vidic who was already in an offside position, against city, kompany was red carded only to be cancealed after the game(fraud). against ordinary arsenal, a red card was needed for u to win. do i need to talk about chelsea where two red cards were branded even against torres who was kicked by evans. with 9 men, chelsea was still determined only for the game to be decided by an offside goal. pictures and clips are all their for ur records.
chairty must begin from home.
in the picture below, the goalscorer was even behind the goalkeeper and we are here talking about nani's red card?

Fussbot: u can't argue again??mtscheew...and guess wat??u'l also have a taste of this medicine come sunday..it's HOWARD WEBB'S SHOW BABY!

Fussbot: This is my question..as person wey sabi ball and sentiments apart....wen nani stood up...did u xpect d ref 2 give im a red cardand if u lie...na God go punish u

elampiro:

I tell you if the laws were to be followed that way, most matches will be ending with three red cards to both sides. Then countless of penalties. How often do we hear ball to hand? is that a law? But referee use their discretion to waive such when a player unintentionally handle the ball in the 18 yard box. Yesterday, although a goal bound shot was removed with a hand by Madrid in their 18 yard box, the referee didnt award a penalty. Why the double standard? if you want to be hard, be hard in all decisions, if you want to be lenient, also ensure that in all decisions.

The rules also say, when there is a contact on a player in the 18 yard box without winning the ball, a penalty should be awarded. The referee ignored that too. So why won't United complain?

oses4u: To all those questioning the decision,
(1) Do u knw dat it took the referee about 3mins to take dat decision
(2) Within those 3minutes he got some advise from other referees(4) @the sides of the pitch.
(3) It was a unanimous decision from all d officials officiating the game. So pls these are professionals that officiate games week in and out.
In my own case the referee was rite. Man Utd better luck nxt time. --- frm a chelsea fan.

Kgdavid:


sorry bro but the bolded is just rubbish. wat exactly do you propose shuld have been done differently? from the off the team was set up to defend so the only possible change would have been an attacking one. bringin on an extra defender at 60 mins against real is the definition of suicide cuz then the pressure would be unbearable and with world class players they would be bound to score.you must realize that it took every single one of our 11 men to effectively defend as we did in the first half. wen real had the ball we exerted pressure from the front and squeezed them resulting a good number of misplaced passes and makin it easier for our defenders to repell real's players. losing one man simply granted them all the space they needed at the back....the two goals are evidence of that....the space that was available for that cross on the first goal simply was not there wen nani was on and modric certainly wouldnt have had that space to shoot prior to the sending off. there was nothin Fergie could do to respond to the modric substitution cuz like i said the only possible change would have been to throw on an attacker which is at happened wen real began to defend their lead. besides it was Modric for Khedira my friend...straight swap! there was no tactical change there! they threw on Pepe and we threw on Rooney. im strugglin to understand this rubbish yu wrote about sir alex playing to the crowd rather than reacting to the modric sub. in fact i am struggling to keep calm here. wat do u even mean?? are yu saying this because he encouraged the crowd to yell more? that is simple morale boosting 101....the great man knew we were in trouble and turned to the crowd- the famed 12th man advantage of every home team(in this case 11th man) for support. please go and write long stories about something else cuz yu sir do not know what yu are talking about here.

elampiro: Time for me to sign out.

The game is over. All world big media cannot be wrong. They all reported that the red card was controversial. Yahoo news, CNN, BBC, Supersports, etc. Many of other club fans immediately agreed that the officiating was poor and biased in favour of Madrid. Even Mourinho said he didn't think it was a red card. Also, many ex-internationals and coaches believe it should be at most a yellow card. So let's leave it.

My fellow Man United fans, there is a bright future for this team. Ferguson should try and retain all the players, they will rule the world. They should start by claiming the EPL this season. With the performance last night, even when it was 10 men, United showed class and there is a bright future. With such performances, I don't see City catching us. I personally, prefer the EPL to champion league this season, just to prove a point that City will always be our baby in football.

Have a nice time.

elampiro:

Why are you giving people false information just to discredit Man United? There was no red card in City's game. I also doubt your claim on the Liverpool game.

scored with a free-kick from an angle, aided by a crucial deflection.
LINEUP, BOOKINGS (7) & SUBSTITUTIONS (6)
Manchester City
01 Hart
04 Kompany (K Toure - 21' )
05 Zabaleta
22 Clichy
33 Nastasic
08 Nasri Booked
18 Barry Booked
21 Silva
42 Y Toure Booked (Dzeko - 84' )
16 Aguero
45 Balotelli (Tevez - 52' Booked )
Substitutes
30 Pantilimon
03 Maicon
06 Lescott
28 K Toure
14 Garcia
10 Dzeko
32 Tevez
Manchester United
01 De Gea
02 Rafael
03 Evra
05 Ferdinand Booked
06 Evans (Smalling - 48' )
07 Valencia (Jones - 84' Booked )
16 Carrick
18 Young
23 Cleverley (Welbeck - 87' )
10 Rooney Booked
20 Van Persie
Substitutes
50 Johnstone
04 Jones
12 Smalling
11 Giggs
22 Scholes
14 Hernandez
19 Welbeck
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20571835

Odunharry: imagine bad officiating

Marlbron: Guys its only a game. I doff my hat to Sir Alex for the strategy he brought to the game which stifled the freeflowing game of Madrid. There is no doubt the sending off changed the game as it enabled Mourinho to bring Madrid who changed the game with his masterful play. Lets analyse the goals.

The first goal -an own goal should not have stood. Van Persie was offside when the ball got to him, the kinsman missed that, and that gave Man U an advantage.

The challenge by Nani was a dangerous one, not helped by his simulation, which made the ref decision a very correct one. Had he accepted responsibility, he might have been lucky with a yellow. No matter, Nani saw Arbeola late and should have directed his leg away from Arbeola rather than aiming for his chest. The rule is clear- dangerous play, red card.

Now with the sending off, it was still 1-0 to the Red Devils. Why did Sir Alex not hold on to the lead?He missed a trick there. When Modricd was brought on, he failed to respond to that and still carried on as if the midfield was still on the same dynamics. That was a rare lapse of concentration by a great tacticIan, a great coach. ManU should have organized better and perhaps should not have conceeded. Being 10 man down does not mean you loose a game.

After the second goal, ManU brought in changes and were very determined and may have scored a goal or two. The day was saved by good goal keeping. The Red card, made it easier for Madrid, but Sir Alex playing to the crowd rather than focussing on strategy as Madrid brought Modric, may have cost ManU the match. And by the way, ManU fans, there is next year champions league which you are sure to play. Remember, the first goal should have been an offside call, so stay humble.

elampiro: Man United were cheated in both legs of this encounter. In Madrid, Patrice Evra was going one on one with the goal keeper, he was ahead of Madrid defenders, then the last man, Segio Ramos I think, brought Evra down. The referee ignored what should have been a red card to Ramos. English teams suffer so much in the hands of these Eufa referee.

Time for me to sign out.

The game is over. All world big media cannot be wrong. They all reported that the red card was controversial. Yahoo news, CNN, BBC, Supersports, etc. Many of other club fans immediately agreed that the officiating was poor and biased in favour of Madrid. Even Mourinho said he didn't think it was a red card. Also, many ex-internationals and coaches believe it should be at most a yellow card. So let's leave it.

My fellow Man United fans, there is a bright future for this team. Ferguson should try and retain all the players, they will rule the world. They should start by claiming the EPL this season. With the performance last night, even when it was 10 men, United showed class and there is a bright future. With such performances, I don't see City catching us. I personally, prefer the EPL to champion league this season, just to prove a point that City will always be our baby in football.

Have a nice time.

Limaoscar:
This an absolute sentimental nonsense. I will leave the rest of your rubbis.h and go to the point you said "even Mourihno said He didn't think it was a red card". Lie! Mou said He could NOT say if it was a red because He did not see it. I thought you should actually harp on what other nice thing He said about your cocky team.