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Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by oldtime(m): 12:46pm On Mar 20, 2013
Twenty questions atheists struggle to answer

1.What caused the universe to exist?

2.What explains the fine tuning of the universe?

3.Why is the universe rational?

4.How did DNA and amino acids arise?

5.Where did the genetic code come from?

6.How do irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolve?

7.How do we account for the origin of 116 distinct language families?

8.Why did cities suddenly appear all over the world between 3,000 and 1,000BC?

9.How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?

10.How do we account for self-awareness?

11.How is free will possible in a material universe?

12.How do we account for conscience?

13.On what basis can we make moral judgements?

14.Why does suffering matter?

15.Why do human beings matter?

16.Why care about justice?

17.How do we account for the almost universal belief in the supernatural?

18.How do we know the supernatural does not exist?

19.How can we know if there is conscious existence after death?

20.What accounts for the empty tomb, resurrection appearances and growth of the church?
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Alfamann: 12:50pm On Mar 20, 2013
And religion have only one answer to those: "the invisible kind monster we tell you about, aka god"
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2013
Actually, atheists do their best to avoid answering any questions at all. Intellectually speaking, they're probably the laziest group of people in the world. They offer no answers and will not accept any. I'm willing to accept correction though smiley
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Ardedaryor(m): 1:24pm On Mar 20, 2013
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Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 1:39pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi: Actually, atheists do their best to avoid answering any questions at all. Intellectually speaking, they're probably the laziest group of people in the world. They offer no answers and will not accept any. I'm willing to accept correction though smiley


The best explanation for life comes from atheists (evolution)
The computer and OS that you use comes from the brain of an atheist
Majority of the American National Academy of sciences are atheists
The Royal Society in Uk is dominated by atheists.


You must be quite ignorant and silly to make that comment in bold.

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Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 2:08pm On Mar 20, 2013
1.What caused the universe to exist?
Ans- nobody knows the exact origin of the universe, including you and your religion

2.What explains the fine tuning of the universe?
Ans- First the fine tuning argument is very ambigous (how fine-tuned is the universe? Are the constants always constants) and second most "order" in the universe can be explained with natural processes

3.Why is the universe rational?
Ans- Nonsense. What is an irrational universe? What is a rational universe? Is the universe alive? Mtchew

4.How did DNA and amino acids arise?
Scientists are still finidng out because the evidence is now pointing to a possibility where DNA could have existed before life itself due to their ability o generate RNA from chemicals that probably existed on early earth

5.Where did the genetic code come from?
See above. Then add some evolution

6.How do irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolve?
From less complex enzyme chain structures that evolved leaving some reducibly complex parts behind

A clay pit is irreducibly complex.You can not break it down into smaller blocks of clay. It is achieved by using a mold or a potter's wheel and some fire. After the pot is ready, the fire and mold are no longer necessary.


7.How do we account for the origin of 116 distinct language families?
Humans living in different social and geographical environment and the evolutionary ability/need to communicate

8.Why did cities suddenly appear all over the world between 3,000 and 1,000BC?
Suddenly appear? They didnt suddenly appear. Dont ask us to explain your magical interpretation of cities that you suddenly discovered.

9.How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?
Chance and neccessity is the product of independent thought or at least a conscious being.

10.How do we account for self-awareness?
Our brain working in tandem with our central nervous system (plus other parts of the body). No brain, no awareness

11.How is free will possible in a material universe?
Depends on how you define freewill. Man is free to be materialistic or not. A better question would be how does freewill exist with an omniscient god?

12.How do we account for conscience?
The brain and reasoning

13.On what basis can we make moral judgements?
Survival, harm and reasoning.......( a result of evolutionary instincts)

14.Why does suffering matter?
Because we are conscious enough to feel and hate pain.

15.Why do human beings matter?
Because of our evolutionary need to survive
Because we have only one life
Because we are social animals and need each other, we need company
Because we are conscious enough to witness and marvel at our universe

16.Why care about justice?
Because I am not a psychopath

17.How do we account for the almost universal belief in the supernatural?
Evolutionary instinct of fear of the unknown
Any inexplicable event or technology is like magic to the ignorant
Ignorance about the workings of the universe

18.How do we know the supernatural does not exist?
No evidence
Historical records of science debunking many past claims of supernatural origins of many events (Rain is shower from heaven, thunder is anger of the Gods, the world is balanced on a god's back, man was created from dust)

19.How can we know if there is conscious existence after death?
We dont know
There is no evidence to suggest that there is
The brain holds consciousness, we do get blackout when the brain is impaired....death might be the same

20.What accounts for the empty tomb, resurrection appearances and growth of the church?
Myth, lies and wars

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Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by plaetton: 2:14pm On Mar 20, 2013
In the same vein how does a monotheistic christian explain Zeus, Apollo, Amen Ra,Indira and all the other panteon of gods of other religions?

In reality, an Atheist owes no explanation to anyone. An atheists simply does not believe in god, even if he or she has no explanation for the origin of the universe. Our quest for understanding leads us to science. Science is an ongoing enquiry into the origin and nature of the universe. So far, science has made great progress in helping us to understand reality. The universe is still very vast and we are very far from understanding many of its mysteries.

Science has proven to be a better, clearer, more concise arbiter of reality than fables of left behind by stone-aged middle easterners.

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Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 2:26pm On Mar 20, 2013
@MacDaddy (per your first comment), Lol. You mean the best explanation for life is that and I paraphrase you, "nobody knows the origin of life. If anybody says they do, they're lying." Who ever said that evolution explained life? Once you demand how life came to be here and why it is here, you start stuttering and making excuses. Even were we to accept evolution, what question really does it answer? Where man came from? To that you take us to primordial soup and cannot answer where the primordial soup came from with any competence. You dare to go to the Big Bbang, you still can't explain how nothing exploded into something. However far back you try to go to answer how man came to be here with evolution you can't escape the fact that something has always been here. But evolution can't tell us what it is. That means that evolution cannot answer how man came to be here in terms of origin, it only putters around with mechanism and even then it's done quite a bit of guessing and supposing.

So, no, evolution has not explained life. It has only tinkered with the mechanisms of life and not very convincingly too.




So if they did, that somehow proves that atheism answers some questions. What questions have the brains of these "atheists" of yours answered with the creation of the computer and the OS? And I'm agreeing for the sake of argument that you are right that the invention of the computer and the OS are due to atheists.




Finally, how does the membership of national academies of advanced nations prove that atheists are not intellectually lazy? Is it the atheism of the atheists numbered in those institutions that enabled them to be there? Or was it their science that did?
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 2:45pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi: @MacDaddy (per your first comment), Lol. You mean the best explanation for life is that and I paraphrase you, "nobody knows the origin of life. If anybody says they do, they're lying." Who ever said that evolution explained life? Once you demand how life came to be here and why it is here, you start stuttering and making excuses. Even were we to accept evolution, what question really does it answer? Where man came from? To that you take us to primordial soup and cannot answer where the primordial soup came from with any competence. You dare to go to the Big Bbang, you still can't explain how nothing exploded into something. However far back you try to go to answer how man came to be here with evolution you can't escape the fact that something has always been here. But evolution can't tell us what it is. That means that evolution cannot answer how man came to be here in terms of origin, it only putters around with mechanism and even then it's done quite a bit of guessing and supposing.

So, no, evolution has not explained life. It has only tinkered with the mechanisms of life and not very convincingly too.




So if they did, that somehow proves that atheism answers some questions. What questions have the brains of these "atheists" of yours answered with the creation of the computer and the OS? And I'm agreeing for the sake of argument that you are right that the invention of the computer and the OS are due to atheists.




Finally, how does the membership of national academies of advanced nations prove that atheists are not intellectually lazy? Is it the atheism of the atheists numbered in those institutions that enabled them to be there? Or was it their science that did?


You are silly and when stumped by facts you resort to silliness.


No one knows the exact origin of life and the universe. Fact. I never said that evolution explains the origin of life. It however explains this current life as we are all evolved organism. Evolution starts with life already existing.

Furthermore, I was responding to your claims of intellectual laziness by atheists. Actaully, much of what you enjoy in this life is based on the hardwork of atheists. Shows how silly you are.

Evolution answers many questions about life on earth. Now was Darwin was an agnostic/atheist. Most biologists in the West are atheists.


Think before you taljk
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by mazaje(m): 3:30pm On Mar 20, 2013
oldtime: Twenty questions atheists struggle to answer

1.What caused the universe to exist?[

No one knows, neither you nor the ancient men that created your god idea. . .Despite all our advance knowledge we now only know less that 10% of the universe. . .We actually do not fully know what it is. . . Modern astronomy is just a few decades old, less than 100 years old and it is what will eventually give us all the answers we need to know in the future. . .

2.What explains the fine tuning of the universe?

Fine tuning?. . .Fine tuned for what?. . .Fine turned for collisions, explosions and spiral movement or what?. . .Cos that is what we see happening in most parts of the universe. . .

3.Why is the universe rational?

Rational . . .Is the universe a human being?. . .

4.How did DNA and amino acids arise?

No one ones for sure. . .According to your religious myth god used words to create living things. . .Now explain to us how the hebrew language can be used to speak things into life. . .

5.Where did the genetic code come from?

6.How do irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolve?

7.How do we account for the origin of 116 distinct language families?

Languages evolved. . .Actually there was a point in human history where humans had no language. . .The english language we are using to communicate on this medium did not exist 500 years ago. . it was later created out of the anglo saxon language. . .

8.Why did cities suddenly appear all over the world between 3,000 and 1,000BC?

Cities did not suddenly appear cities were built. . .

9.How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?

Because we are conscious beings. . .

10.How do we account for self-awareness?

The brain development. . .Without which you can not be self aware. . .

11.How is free will possible in a material universe?

What the hell is free will?. . .

12.How do we account for conscience?

Because we are sentient beings with the ability to self reflect. . .

13.On what basis can we make moral judgements?

Because we want to avoid chaos, for good and better survival. . .

14.Why does suffering matter?

Because we are conscious and sentient beings. . .

15.Why do human beings matter?

Because human beings are social animals that need each other and can not survive alone. . .

16.Why care about justice?

Because lack of justice leads to anarchy. . .

17.How do we account for the almost universal belief in the supernatural?

Because the human being is naturally superstitious. . .Ignorance about the workings of the universe

18.How do we know the supernatural does not exist?

No evidence of the supernatural working any where. . .The supernatural has never been shown to exist any where. . .All supernatural claims require natural explanations in reality. . .Once the rain bow was believed to be a supernatural occurance until science explained it. . .

19.How can we know if there is conscious existence after death?

No evidence for consciousness after death. . . .The brain is the only part of the human body we use to become conscious, once its dead consciousness dies with it. . .No evidence for life after death only lies and myths. . .

20.What accounts for the empty tomb, resurrection appearances and growth of the church?

Which empty tomb?. . .Hope you know that presently in Israel there are two empty tombs of Jesus that people visit. . . Resurrection appearances of Jesus only appear in a story written about Jesus very long after he died by people who never meet him or spoke his language. . .The resurrection appearances of Jesus have nothing to do with reality they are all a myth. . After all prophet Mohammed once divided the moon into two halves and made the moon bow down to him. . It is written in the hadith go and read them up. . .The growth of the church is for dominance and promotion and continuation of a tradition. . . .Go ask the muslims and the Hindus what accounts for their growths. . .The two religions put together have more adherents than the christians. . .
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 3:37pm On Mar 20, 2013
MacDaddy01:

1.What caused the universe to exist?
Ans- nobody knows the exact origin of the universe, including you and your religion

When did "I don't know" start to mean "nobody knows"? How do you know that nobody knows? Do you suppose that the knowledge does not exist?

2.What explains the fine tuning of the universe?
Ans- First the fine tuning argument is very ambigous (how fine-tuned is the universe? Are the constants always constants) and second most "order" in the universe can be explained with natural processes

Are natural processes descriptive of or are they the reason for this order?

3.Why is the universe rational?
Ans- Nonsense. What is an irrational universe? What is a rational universe? Is the universe alive? Mtchew

Why is the question nonsense?

4.How did DNA and amino acids arise?
Scientists are still finidng out because the evidence is now pointing to a possibility where DNA could have existed before life itself due to their ability o generate RNA from chemicals that probably existed on early earth

Can you explain what the condition, "before life" is like?

5.Where did the genetic code come from?
See above. Then add some evolution

See above too.

6.How do irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolve?
From less complex enzyme chain structures that evolved leaving some reducibly complex parts behind

Um, irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolved from less complex chain structures that left behind some [u]reducibly complex[/b] parts behind.

You're actually saying that once upon a time enzyme chains that today cannot be reduced in complexity without their losing their very nature and character were not so complex chains that became what they are today by losing parts of them that were complex but which could retain their character and function after losing some of their complexity? So we have today enzyme chains with irreducible complexity because there were once chain structures that were not complex? So evolution here cost a thinning down? Ok, so where did the gross from which the fine was produced come from? Why did it first amass a lot of uselessness just to lose it and get to the useful core?

A clay pit is irreducibly complex.You can not break it down into smaller blocks of clay. It is achieved by using a mold or a potter's wheel and some fire. After the pot is ready, the fire and mold are no longer necessary.

If I understand you correctly, a clay pit can be broken down into smaller blocks of clay by using a mold or a potter's wheel and some fire even though it cannot ordinarily be reduced in complexity and this analogy explains your answer in the earlier paragraph. Perhaps you could show us how?

7.How do we account for the origin of 116 distinct language families?
Humans living in different social and geographical environment and the evolutionary ability/need to communicate

How exactly does the evolutionary ability/need to communicate result in so many different types of languages?

8.Why did cities suddenly appear all over the world between 3,000 and 1,000BC?
Suddenly appear? They didnt suddenly appear. Dont ask us to explain your magical interpretation of cities that you suddenly discovered.

Ok. So what happened?

9.How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?
Chance and neccessity is the product of independent thought or at least a conscious being.

But evolution has it that chance and necessity is why and how everything exists. Are you saying that evolution implies that everything that resulted from chance and necessity resulted ultimately from independent thought or at least a conscious being?

10.How do we account for self-awareness?
Our brain working in tandem with our central nervous system (plus other parts of the body). No brain, no awareness

In other words, we are self-aware because we have brains. Do you hold then that all organisms that have brains are self-aware?

11.How is free will possible in a material universe?
Depends on how you define freewill. Man is free to be materialistic or not. A better question would be how does freewill exist with an omniscient god?

If man is free to be materialistic or not and that is free will, are we not inferring choice and therefore responsibility? To whom or what is man responsible for his choice to be materialistic or not?

Why is your question better? Does it help to answer the question you were asked? Or is it an attempt at evasion?

12.How do we account for conscience?
The brain and reasoning

We know that. But how do you as an atheist account for the reasoning that produces conscience?

13.On what basis can we make moral judgements?
Survival, harm and reasoning.......( a result of evolutionary instincts)

Give us one example, if you may.

14.Why does suffering matter?
Because we are conscious enough to feel and hate pain.

So suffering matters only because we can feel it. Lepers must be the most carefree people on the world then, if it is true that their condition comes with an inability to sense pain.

15.Why do human beings matter?
Because of our evolutionary need to survive
Because we have only one life
Because we are social animals and need each other, we need company
Because we are conscious enough to witness and marvel at our universe

Oh, I don't know where to start with this one. Your answer sounds an awful lot like, "we are important because we're not animals". Is that what you're saying?

16.Why care about justice?
Because I am not a psychopath

But what is a psychopath, evolutionarily speaking?

17.How do we account for the almost universal belief in the supernatural?
Evolutionary instinct of fear of the unknown
Any inexplicable event or technology is like magic to the ignorant
Ignorance about the workings of the universe

So the more we know the less we believe in the supernatural, right? That means that all the people at the frontiers of science and technology ought to be atheists. Are they?

18.How do we know the supernatural does not exist?
No evidence
Historical records of science debunking many past claims of supernatural origins of many events (Rain is shower from heaven, thunder is anger of the Gods, the world is balanced on a god's back, man was created from dust)

First off, if you ever dreamt of a dog, can you prove that you did? If you can, give us some idea how you would prove it. If you can't, tell us if really that means that you did not in fact dream of a dog.

Second, how does the debunking of a belief mean the inexistence of the supernatural? In other words, if at all it has been proved in fact that man was not created out of dust, it most definitely means that the people who believed that were mistaken, but how does it in fact prove that no supernatural creator exists?

Third, could you cite a few of these proofs? One or two will do.

19.How can we know if there is conscious existence after death?
We dont know
There is no evidence to suggest that there is
The brain holds consciousness, we do get blackout when the brain is impaired....death might be the same

In other words, you do not positively know that there is no such thing as life after death. So there might actually be thus making the Christian's concern with it legitimate.

20.What accounts for the empty tomb, resurrection appearances and growth of the church?
Myth, lies and wars

So, for some really weird reason, the Church has marched on rather than die for more than two thousand years by perpetuating myth, lies and war, but empires that have thrived on the same things have failed to survive even that long. Why is that, do you know?
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 3:44pm On Mar 20, 2013
Lol, Xtians... Asking more questions of science than they would of their God.

Science.. answered more questions than their God has ever done...

tongue

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Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 3:49pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi:

When did "I don't know" start to mean "nobody knows"? How do you know that nobody knows? Do you suppose that the knowledge does not exist?



Are natural processes descriptive of or are they the reason for this order?



Why is the question nonsense?



Can you explain what the condition, "before life" is like?



See above too.



Um, irreducibly complex enzyme chains evolved from less complex chain structures that left behind some [u]reducibly complex[/b] parts behind.

You're actually saying that once upon a time enzyme chains that today cannot be reduced in complexity without their losing their very nature and character were not so complex chains that became what they are today by losing parts of them that were complex but which could retain their character and function after losing some of their complexity? So we have today enzyme chains with irreducible complexity because there were once chain structures that were not complex? So evolution here cost a thinning down? Ok, so where did the gross from which the fine was produced come from? Why did it first amass a lot of uselessness just to lose it and get to the useful core?



If I understand you correctly, a clay pit can be broken down into smaller blocks of clay by using a mold or a potter's wheel and some fire even though it cannot ordinarily be reduced in complexity and this analogy explains your answer in the earlier paragraph. Perhaps you could show us how?



How exactly does the evolutionary ability/need to communicate result in so many different types of languages?



Ok. So what happened?



But evolution has it that chance and necessity is why and how everything exists. Are you saying that evolution implies that everything that resulted from chance and necessity resulted ultimately from independent thought or at least a conscious being?



In other words, we are self-aware because we have brains. Do you hold then that all organisms that have brains are self-aware?



If man is free to be materialistic or not and that is free will, are we not inferring choice and therefore responsibility? To whom or what is man responsible for his choice to be materialistic or not?

Why is your question better? Does it help to answer the question you were asked? Or is it an attempt at evasion?



We know that. But how do you as an atheist account for the reasoning that produces conscience?



Give us one example, if you may.



So suffering matters only because we can feel it. Lepers must be the most carefree people on the world then, if it is true that their condition comes with an inability to sense pain.



Oh, I don't know where to start with this one. Your answer sounds an awful lot like, "we are important because we're not animals". Is that what you're saying?



But what is a psychopath, evolutionarily speaking?



So the more we know the less we believe in the supernatural, right? That means that all the people at the frontiers of science and technology ought to be atheists. Are they?



First off, if you ever dreamt of a dog, can you prove that you did? If you can, give us some idea how you would prove it. If you can't, tell us if really that means that you did not in fact dream of a dog.

Second, how does the debunking of a belief mean the inexistence of the supernatural? In other words, if at all it has been proved in fact that man was not created out of dust, it most definitely means that the people who believed that were mistaken, but how does it in fact prove that no supernatural creator exists?

Third, could you cite a few of these proofs? One or two will do.



In other words, you do not positively know that there is no such thing as life after death. So there might actually be thus making the Christian's concern with it legitimate.



So, for some really weird reason, the Church has marched on rather than die for more than two thousand years by perpetuating myth, lies and war, but empires that have thrived on the same things have failed to survive even that long. Why is that, do you know?



lmao....


All you are saying is

"yes but"


Lets take the first question/answer for instance; Nobody knows the origin of the universe. What did you try to argue? You made a strawman claim that I said that the knowledge of the origin of the universe doesnt exist.

Please, if you have been fed the facts, dont start trying some anonynising questions out of desperation
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 3:50pm On Mar 20, 2013
musKeeto: Lol, Xtians... Asking more questions of science than they would of their God.

Science.. answered more questions than their God has ever done...

tongue


Dont mind them, especially Ihedinobi
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 3:58pm On Mar 20, 2013
Chemical evolution for number 4 -
Sidney W. Fox also
experimented with abiogenesis
and the primordial soup theory
producing a number of reports
between 1964 and 1988. In one
of his experiments, he allowed
amino acids to dry out as if
puddled in a warm, dry spot in
prebiotic conditions. He found
that, as they dried, the amino
acids formed long, often cross-
linked, thread-like,
submicroscopic molecules now
named " proteinoids ".
In another experiment using a
similar method to set suitable
conditions for life to form, Fox
collected volcanic material from
a cinder cone in Hawaii. He
discovered that the temperature
was over 100 °C (212 °F) just 4
inches (100 mm) beneath the
surface of the cinder cone, and
suggested that this might have
been the environment in which
life was created—molecules
could have formed and then
been washed through the loose
volcanic ash and into the sea.
He placed lumps of lava over
amino acids derived from
methane, ammonia and water,
sterilized all materials, and
baked the lava over the amino
acids for a few hours in a glass
oven. A brown, sticky substance
formed over the surface and
when the lava was drenched in
sterilized water a thick, brown
liquid leached out. It turned out
that the amino acids had
combined to form proteinoids,
and the proteinoids had
combined to form small, cell-
like spheres. Fox called these
"microspheres", a name that
subsequently was displaced by
the more informative term
protobionts. His protobionts
were not cells, although they
formed clumps and chains
reminiscent of cyanobacteria.
They contained no functional
nucleic acids, but split asexually
and formed within double
membranes that had some
attributes suggestive of cell
membranes.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 3:59pm On Mar 20, 2013
MacDaddy01:


You are silly and when stumped by facts you resort to silliness.

Lol. However much you howl and cry, it won't make the questions go away, mister.

No one knows the exact origin of life and the universe. Fact. I never said that evolution explains the origin of life. It however explains this current life as we are all evolved organism. Evolution starts with life already existing.

So who or what made it a fact? You? How do you know that nobody knows? On what authority do you say so?

In other words, I'm still right in saying that all evolution has even attempted to do is guess at the mechanisms by which various life forms came about. It hasn't quite explained the mystery of life, how it came to be, what it really is and what it is about.

Furthermore, I was responding to your claims of intellectual laziness by atheists. Actaully, much of what you enjoy in this life is based on the hardwork of atheists. Shows how silly you are.

My friend, there is such a thing as associative speech. While I'm willing to lock horns with you over just how much of what I'm enjoying in this life is due to atheists, it really is not the issue here. We are talking of atheists as atheists. Some really good engineers, scientists and doctors are atheists no doubt, but how many of you are willing to put your brains to work on the matters of belief and disbelief? You never want to answer questions that arise from the atheistic stance on life but you insist on theists answering for their own stance. I think it's because people are unwilling to really think about existential questions that they remain atheists.

Evolution answers many questions about life on earth. Now was Darwin was an agnostic/atheist. Most biologists in the West are atheists.

Questions like what and what?
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 4:04pm On Mar 20, 2013
musKeeto: Lol, Xtians... Asking more questions of science than they would of their God.

Science.. answered more questions than their God has ever done...

tongue

How funny. Science is simply the body of knowledge that we have about the material world. It provides information about what and how, never the ultimate why. Christians never see a competition between science to which they too contribute and God Who makes all the science meaningful.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 4:05pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi:

Lol. However much you howl and cry, it won't make the questions go away, mister.



So who or what made it a fact? You? How do you know that nobody knows? On what authority do you say so?

In other words, I'm still right in saying that all evolution has even attempted to do is guess at the mechanisms by which various life forms came about. It hasn't quite explained the mystery of life, how it came to be, what it really is and what it is about.



My friend, there is such a thing as associative speech. While I'm willing to lock horns with you over just how much of what I'm enjoying in this life is due to atheists, it really is not the issue here. We are talking of atheists as atheists. Some really good engineers, scientists and doctors are atheists no doubt, but how many of you are willing to put your brains to work on the matters of belief and disbelief? You never want to answer questions that arise from the atheistic stance on life but you insist on theists answering for their own stance. I think it's because people are unwilling to really think about existential questions that they remain atheists.



Questions like what and what?




lol evolution is a guess.


lol someone knows the origin of the universe (even when our cosmologists and scientists are nowhere near unraveling it)

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I have explained morality from evolution

I have given reasons why I do not believe in god



Yet, you go on to say that atheists do not answer questions. You are ignorant and silly
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 4:09pm On Mar 20, 2013
From wikipedia (abiogenesis) - More on number 4 - Eigen's hypothesis
In the early 1970s, the problem
of the origin of life was
approached by Manfred Eigen
and Peter Schuster of the Max
Planck Institute for Biophysical
Chemistry. They examined the
transient stages between the
molecular chaos and a self-
replicating hypercycle in a
prebiotic soup. [53]
In a hypercycle, the information
storing system (possibly RNA)
produces an enzyme , which
catalyzes the formation of
another information system, in
sequence until the product of
the last aids in the formation of
the first information system.
Mathematically treated,
hypercycles could create
quasispecies , which through
natural selection entered into a
form of Darwinian evolution. A
boost to hypercycle theory was
the discovery that RNA, in
certain circumstances, forms
itself into ribozymes, capable of
catalyzing their own chemical
reactions.[54] However, these
reactions are limited to self-
excisions (in which a longer
RNA molecule becomes
shorter), and much rarer small
additions that are incapable of
coding for any useful protein.
The hypercycle theory is further
degraded since the hypothetical
RNA would require the
existence of complex
biochemicals such as
nucleotides which are not
formed under the conditions
proposed by the Miller–Urey
experiment.
Sol Spiegelman aimed to find
the simplest life form by taking
advantage of evolution's natural
selection process. His new life
form, Spiegelman's Monster ,
had a genome with just 218
bases. Manfred Eigen built on
Spiegelman's work and
produced a life form with just
48 or 54 nucleotides. [55] M.
Sumper and R. Luce of Eigen's
laboratory accidentally
discovered that a mixture
containing no RNA at all but
only RNA bases and Q-Beta
Replicase can, under the right
conditions, spontaneously
generate self-replicating RNA
which evolves into a form
similar to Spiegelman's
Monster.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 4:09pm On Mar 20, 2013
MacDaddy01:



lmao....


All you are saying is

"yes but"

Well, what else could I have expected you to say? You're still in the doldrums of reasoning, it appears.

Lets take the first question/answer for instance; Nobody knows the origin of the universe. What did you try to argue? You made a strawman claim that I said that the knowledge of the origin of the universe doesnt exist.

Like I said, still in the doldrums. I didn't make any kind of claim. I asked why you asserted that nobody knew the origins of the universe and asked if you thought the knowledge didn't exist for anybody to possess. That's all. You're just looking for a cop-out.

Please, if you have been fed the facts, dont start trying some anonynising questions out of desperation

Well, let's hear the facts and I promise to not "anonynise" (whatever that means) when I hear them.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 4:15pm On Mar 20, 2013
MacDaddy01:




lol evolution is a guess.


lol someone knows the origin of the universe (even when our cosmologists and scientists are nowhere near unraveling it)

Well, your sniggering does not help you prove that either is untrue.

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I have explained morality from evolution

I have given reasons why I do not believe in god



Yet, you go on to say that atheists do not answer questions. You are ignorant and silly


But your answers are all unsubstantiated assertions. You want us to swallow what you said just because you said it? Have you ever taken our word for any answer we have given as theists?
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 4:16pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi:

Well, your sniggering does not help you prove that either is untrue.



But your answers are all unsubstantiated assertions. You want us to swallow what you said just because you said it? Have you ever taken our word for any answer we have given as theists?


Even if you dont believe what I say, I have answered such questions in detail.


So to claim that atheists dont answer questions is a huge fail.



#get the f4ck out of here
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 4:21pm On Mar 20, 2013
You are right.. i have no answer to all your questions (not all - just 1)

20.What accounts for the empty tomb, resurrection appearances and growth of the church?

Martians planned to abduct the body for extensive anal probes, this scared the bjezz out of Jesus, he upped and outta there like a mofo .. WTF is BehindBased
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 4:30pm On Mar 20, 2013
MacDaddy01:


Even if you dont believe what I say, I have answered such questions in detail.


So to claim that atheists dont answer questions is a huge fail.



#get the f4ck out of here

Interesting that you consider what you did to be "answering questions". I think I'll try it on you some time and your Flying Spaghetti Monster help you if you dare complain. grin
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 4:39pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi:

Interesting that you consider what you did to be "answering questions". I think I'll try it on you some time and your Flying Spaghetti Monster help you if you dare complain. grin

What he did was answering the questions as if writing waec. As if the person who asked is a dummy. Someone needs to tell him that to answer a question at times goes beyond giving O level definitions
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Alfamann: 4:57pm On Mar 20, 2013
Another great copy and paste research by ooman.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Nobody: 5:00pm On Mar 20, 2013
ooman:

What he did was answering the questions as if writing waec. As if the person who asked is a dummy. Someone needs to tell him that to answer a question at times goes beyond giving O level definitions

grin
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 5:11pm On Mar 20, 2013
Alfamann: Another great copy and paste research by ooman.

Yea, better than "I dont know" that your eediot pal is spewing without doing some reading.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by Image123(m): 12:34am On Mar 21, 2013
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OPppppppppp, the STRUGGLE continues like you mentioned.
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by MacDaddy01: 1:15am On Mar 21, 2013
Image123: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OPppppppppp, the STRUGGLE continues like you mentioned.

Typical cristian denail. The Op's questions were answered but you keep on denying....
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by dekung(m): 1:53am On Mar 21, 2013
@OP, why are you asking questions that may not have a clear cut answer? Why not ask questions that deal with our contemporary lives like:

1) How come God never delivers r.a.pe victims

2) Why can't the bible God just kill satan once and for all

3) Why did God have to creat a tree of knowledge of good and evil shouldnt he have known that man was going to eat of the fruit (He is supposed to be omniscient)

4) Why is Bashir Al Assaad still walking arround, shouldn't he be struck with leprosy

5) How come all the corrupt leaders in Nigeria still rulling us 50years on despite christians' continual praying for the Nation.

6) If God prevented prevented the construction of Tower of Babel, why then did he allow construction of Burjh Khalifa and allow the construction of the international space station, Hubble Telescope and Kepler Telescope


These are just a few I can remember, I will add more later
Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by victorNRceo: 8:39am On Mar 21, 2013
@ooman u letting emotions cloud ur intelligence,y beef at macdaddy *n don't deny it*,or have u derived at the conclusion that scientific theories must originate atheism? Macdaddy gave the best answer to OP qstn Number one(a valid conclusion,after invalidity in religious books about the universe n scientific theories to some extent(in their case,still seeking)).

@alfaman u are being no indifferent from ooman's emotional reflections. Loving u n ooman's illustrations was a ride worthwhile for me but,until now,u both are beginning to lose ur intelligent approach to peer group(NLers) opinions. I understand that ones emotions most times could be inevitable,but in this case it mustn't(be inevitable). Emotions cause the beefs y'all know that(skrikylmi noticed this too),abeg retreat to ur initial reputation(atheist are known for their love to learn beyond limitations *even the religious can affirm that*).

Greetings to y'all.

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