nasyl:

If Jesus was in Ukraine or any of the cold country....
He would have probably smoked to survive

To me.... Walking with God is a personal thing.

There can be situation where by you kiss (passionately) ur partner and ur conscience won't hunt you... Dat because is something u ve settled b4 God personally.

You need to ve a personal relationship with God and stop d extracting bible verses dat can make ur life miserable.

c++_crazy:
go and sit down somwhere near dat transformer der.... Can't u compare the calibre of question the op is asking and the type you muslims open. U muslims purposely preach ur ungodly gospel indirectly like ''mohammed, a worthy man to heaven'' or ''koran, the way of life'' why we know those things both the mohammed and koran is somtn dat a normal human shouldn't hear or see in his lifetime. This thread is simply a question if it is good or bad during a christian courtship and don't claim muslims don't bash christian threads cos as cowards u are, u use to bash christian threads before but when you saw you've lost the war as normal, u guys started crying being victimised and when u wanted to post did u see any sign don't say something that is harmful to christianity? I know the answer is NO cos we tolerate even if u like bash us, u'l still loose.

your username tells more better.

specialguest:
Lets say your future wife does not know what a holy kiss means

black_beau: It is.besides,even if it isn't,you are human and as you keep kissing your spouse,there is every possibility that you may just go farther than you expected and end up hating yourself. To be on the safe side,just skip it

ogaju007:

Come and i will teach you how to kiss without going that far? what kinda kiss you want? German, French, chineese even naija kiss i get am....

bollybees: 1 Corinthians
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

It's not good for a man to touch a woman not to talk of kiss...This was written to people of Corints who faced more sexual temptation than any you can think of today. This was a city were it was legal to have sex in the public. If christians could survive in Corinth you can...

LondyC: I think the problem with most christians is that we are still trying so hard to justify ourselves by our own righteousness which is gotten by obeying the law. So since the law says 'do not commit adultery' not 'do not kiss' then we feel justified to do the things which were not clearly stated. This was why God had to send Jesus to die for us because He saw that the Law could not make us holy. We are now in the new covenant which is written in our hearts by the blood of Jesus. We are now Baptized into Jesus and the Holyspirit dwells within us. 2nd Corinthians 3v6
If you are kissing, your mind can't be clean in the process. It's not just about whether it is right or wrong but about what it does to you. It stirs up lustful wishes and that is not healthy for either of you as christians. This is why Romans 12v2 says we should continuously renew our minds because what we think has a great effect on what we do. So many christians claim to be virgins but that is just physically, in their minds, they've done and undone all manner of sexual acts. This is why Jesus didn't just say 'don't commit adultery' but 'don't even think about it' because if you habour such thoughts, you are as guilty as the person who actually did it. Let your conscience be your judge.

LondyC: I think the problem with most christians is that we are still trying so hard to justify ourselves by our own righteousness which is gotten by obeying the law. So since the law says 'do not commit adultery' not 'do not kiss' then we feel justified to do the things which were not clearly stated. This was why God had to send Jesus to die for us because He saw that the Law could not make us holy. We are now in the new covenant which is written in our hearts by the blood of Jesus. We are now Baptized into Jesus and the Holyspirit dwells within us. 2nd Corinthians 3v6
If you are kissing, your mind can't be clean in the process. It's not just about whether it is right or wrong but about what it does to you. It stirs up lustful wishes and that is not healthy for either of you as christians. This is why Romans 12v2 says we should continuously renew our minds because what we think has a great effect on what we do. So many christians claim to be virgins but that is just physically, in their minds, they've done and undone all manner of sexual acts. This is why Jesus didn't just say 'don't commit adultery' but 'don't even think about it' because if you habour such thoughts, you are as guilty as the person who actually did it. Let your conscience be your judge.

Afam4eva: Most Christians are dummies. That something sounds or looks sinful doesn't make it sinful. Read your bible and see if you'll find where it says that it's a sin or not.

joinnow: Wisely, therefore, you must consider the consequences of engaging in conduct that arouses sexual feelings. What if you are too young to marry? Then why kiss or do anything in a way that would arouse you sexually? All that this would accomplish is to cause you frustration. This is because there is no way for you as a true Christian to take those romantic feelings to their logical conclusion—sexual intercourse. The Bible makes clear that such relations are proper only within marriage.—1 Corinthians 6:18.
Consider, too, the other person, who might be aroused sexually by your romantic activity. Is it not deceitful, and even cruel, to kiss or caress someone you are not in a position to marry or may not even seriously consider as a potential marriage mate? (Compare Proverbs 26:18, 19.) The Bible warns: “The cruel person is bringing ostracism upon his own organism.”—Proverbs 11:17.
It shouldn’t be any secret to a Bible student that a romantic touch or a kiss can arouse strong sexual desire. The Bible tells of the seduction of a young man by a prostitute. It says: “She has grabbed hold of him and given him a kiss.” (Proverbs 7:13) Such a kiss or touch can trigger a profound physical response. As intimacies progress a boy or a girl becomes increasingly aroused. Frankly, the body is getting ready for sexual intercourse.
If a couple are married, they can satisfy their passions in a delightful and honorable way. But when an unmarried couple indulge in passion-arousing sexual play, problems are sure to result

woodcook: So many people are going to call for my head by the time they finish reading this.

Well I am a christian but a rational one. I am sure in the days of the old when the Bible was given to men, things are quite different and I could supposed that based on evidence people then actually marry on time(I am sure some people will point out those that never got married and those that married late. Which does not in anyway becloud the fact that majority of them got married at an early age). But let me stray a little away from the bible, I really don't know the sin that there is when biologically your body starts acting up based on hormones. These hormones am sure you never asked for it, you get to an age when your body realizes it is time to put these "instrument" to use, biologically that is your body speaking. But due to the present situation of things on ground most people don't get married until like 10 to 15 years into puberty. How on earth do you expect them to continue defying their biological makeup? At this point I would supposed that's why my Muslim brothers up North have to either marry for their son at an early age of 18/19 to prevent them from getting themselves involve into ugly circumstance as mentioned let alone asking the question which the op asked. But then if you can't afford to get married and given the situation on ground which is not your own making, I think what is wrong is stopping nature to take its course.

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What is ''muslims sha''?? He is simply trying to point out respectfully that even when many xtian threads make the front page, you will hardly ever find any muslim complaining, not to talk of throwing insults on such threads.

But if JUST ONE muslim thread makes homepage EVEN on a FRIDAY, you see xtians complaining, asking if this is an islamic forum, asking why islam is bein shoved down their throat, then several insults will follow on the Prophet & Allah.

The threads are there. Go and see for yourself and take statistics if you wish. Yet, the general 'consensus' is that muslims are intolerant & insultive. Yeahright!!!!

@Topic, not a xtian, but I dont think any real christian needs the Bible to tell him/her that kissing / hugging someone who is not your

wife/husband (& who you can marry) is a sin. May God forgive us.

What is worse than commiting a sin is proudly defending it or looking for a way to justify it or present it as d right thing.

nbright: Christianity is diverse o... Pastor Chris said wanking isn't a sin while some other Pastors will tell you that it's a sin.... Who do we believe?... That's why I do my thing my way and wait till I meet the Lord to know if I do it the right or wrong way..

Timijo: I like your answer and the biblical verses u quoted.
Do you know it took me over 3 hours to convinced a lady on this issue? She argued and gave reasons for hugging and kissing during courtship. My stand is NO. What I need is biblical verses to support my points.

Timijo: I like your answer and the biblical verses u quoted.
Do you know it took me over 3 hours to convinced a lady on this issue? She argued and gave reasons for hugging and kissing during courtship. My stand is NO. What I need is biblical verses to support my points.

nbright:
Christianity is diverse o... Pastor Chris said wanking isn't a sin while some other Pastors will tell you that it's a sin.... Who do we believe?... That's why I do my thing my way and wait till I meet the Lord to know if I do it the right or wrong way..

nevderek:
We need to know the concept of sin first.
What really is sin?

Did u know that commiting adultery is not the sin, rather disobeying God who asked u not commit adultery IS the sin?

Why was the King Saul rejected by God?
God actually said "thou shall not shed blood" and somewhere else you find the same God telling a man to annilhiliate totally a nation, sparing not even a beast. And in that context, sin would be NOT totally killing them people.
That was why King Saul failed; He disobeyed God by not killing all.

If you conduct a dilligent study of the chronicles of men and women God walked with back in the bible days, you'll discover things that will amaze you.
Lot and his family were instructed by an angel to run from Sodom and not look back, Lot's wife looked back and turned into a pillar of salt, but that same day Abraham was on the mountian looking directly into Soddom and Gomorrah as the angels rained fire on them.
To Lot and his family, looking back would be a sin which attracted immediate repercussions, to Abraham it wasnt.

what about the ark of covenant, a man tried to touch it and stop it from falling, he died at the spot yet Obodebom took it home and prospered.
To the man it was sinful, to Obedebom it was a commendable act with multiple blessings.

Samson sleeps with a LovePeddler yet God's spirit comes upon him the next moment when he's ready to fight.

Human beings with out societal norms and values try to define God and explain His ways. Jesus chided the Phasrisees and Sadducees for "making the word of God of ineffect by the reason of their traditions". He called them tombs, looking neat outside but full of dead, rotten particles inside.

To the one who's born again; Sin is not a set or list of actions that seems wrong, its an act of disobedience to a direct specific instruction from God at a particular time or given situation.
Sin to the christian is personal, Paul ate everything, even the meats the Jews called unclean, sacrificed to gods, but Peter wouldnt dare.

To the one who's not born again, sin has got nothing with what they do, it's their nature.. No matter how nice they may seem, no matter how right they behave, they are simply sinners, everything they do is sin. No wonder God says "their righteousness is a filthy rag to me".

NB: there are habits u dont exhibit, not cos they are sinful but cos they may put u in trouble, or put someone else in trouble.

Now is kissing and hugging sinful or not?
God didnt specify anywhere in the bible (infact Solomon did a lot of kissing with a girl he was in love with, songs of solomon and it's scripture!!!) so that leaves it to a personal level.
And personally to me, it aint.
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