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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by warajaina: 7:57pm On Jan 24, 2018
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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Opistorincos(m): 9:17pm On Jan 24, 2018
warajaina:
I am not done talking, Michael odega.
You are rude , uncouth , lack manners and not only ignorant of good customer relationship you generally lack good communication.
Bia, you are not doing me a favour, you are being paid 375 a dollar for your services, so do not run your mouth like a dysentery induced colon.
Read this quoted words of yours, page 1 like you said and tell me where you said do not call.
You advised me to read, let me return the favour.
1. Go for anger management class.
2. Register for CRM courses.
Life na jeje.

[=mikkyangel post=15241021] PLEASE ! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!
BEWARE OF ONLINE SCAMMERS .....Call my Los Angeles number atlist one minute to confirm b4 u pay.

..Online Auction and "Buy it Now" approach through the world's most respected and trusted online marketing site "EBAY" is thus one very authentic means through which one can get goods online from USA and world over.

Haven mastered both Techniques, i have decided to open my thread to further provide Nigerians with perhaps the most affordable yet reliable means (shipping and handling) through which you can get "ORIGINAL PRODUCTS " live and direct from the world's most advanced nation US of A...

*PICKUP SITES INCLUDES
-Craiglist
-Offer up
-Letgo
-5mile
Los Angeles being a major hub and perhaps ,one of the most popular destinations in usa, provides us with wealth of choices through which we can choose from..places of concentration but not limited to includes:"PLEASE, NOTE THAT N9JA IS 9HRS AHEAD OF CALIFORNIA, So when contacting me, please put this into consideration.
-Also note that i like to take my break between 1pm to 7pm in the Afternoon(this is when traffic gets really bad)

*Areas of Close proximity to me...fuel charges ranges between $18 to $25.
-Inglewood
-Hawthorne
-El Segundo
-Gardena
-Lax
-Compton
-Culver City
-Marina Dey Rey
-Player Vister
-Torrance
-lynwood



*Areas far from me.(usually where u get the best deals/Oyinbo Area)
-Longbeach($35/ 1hr drive ..back n forth)
-Signal Hill
-bellflower
-El-monte
-South Gate
-Beverlyhills...$45
-Bell
-monrovia($75)
-La Puente
-Rosemaid....$55
-Paramount $55
-Azuza.....$70
-Canyon country
-west covina.......$60
-Hollywood ($40)
-North Hollywood ($45)
-Ventura...$70
-Costa mesa.....$70
-Sanfe.Springs
-Pasadena ($55)
-Glendale($55)
-Vanuys ($55)
-Redondo Beach
-Hermosa Beach
-malibu......$75
-Topanga
-Venice Beach
-Manhattan Beach
-Santa Monica($35 )
-Santa Anna($55)
-Anaheim($55)
-Burbank ($55)
-Sherman Oaks($55)
-DownTown..$35
-Wishire Blvd
-Chino Hills($70)
-Inland Empire..$75
-Buena Park..$55
-Montebello
-Alhambra..$55
-Rancho Palos Verdes
-Sherman way($55)
-Whittier.$55
-Norwalk $45
-Fullerton...$65
-La Mirada
-Temple city
-San Gabriel
-Rancho Cucamonga
-Encino($55)
-Cudahi
-Downey
-Diamond Bar.......$70
-Glendora.....$80
-Garden Groove......$60
-lomita
-Carson......$35
-Pomona...........$60
*Jamaican Phone seller...$55 for fuel to meet him in Vanuys


*NO GO AREAS Includes:
-Sandiego
-Santa Babara
-San Fransico
-Bakers Field
-Palmdale
-Santa.Clarita
-Lancasta

*STEPS TOWARDS A SUCCESSFUL PICK :
-Check the pickup sites for ur choices( it must be within Los Angeles of its environ)
-When you find any deal, contact ur seller via chat(no tell am say u dey n9ja ohh), please, you as the 1st point of contact should always get all necessary info ready for me
i) Ur names used in the site and which site ur asking me to go for pickup.
ii)Seller"s phone number (very importatnt), if no phone number, no deal
iii)Price you have agreed
iv) Ask seller if the item has any issues, cracked screen(which may not be shown on the advert), Ask seller if item powers on, ask! Ask!! Asn ask!!!, also ask about camera and finger print censor.If item includes accessories, please be specific..
-Please try as much as possible to convince the seller to meet me in a public Place (Starbucks, Macdonalds or Police station), for my own safety..meeting these said sellers at these location, affords me enough time to properly check the item,if ur not able to convince the seller, I might still use my descretion..(if na.oyinbo vicinity.,I fit still enter road go meet am)..But check dez items well well mayb dificult.
-i will give u quotation based on the pickup location.
-Please be ready to make ur deposit within 15minutes of the seller asking me to come.DO NOT HIT ME UP TO TELL ME ITS MIDNITE HERE, YOU WILL DEPOSIT TOMMORROW.

-Please if am picking up an Iphone, u need to check its imei number urself, make sure "Find my phone is off", before u ask me to hit the road.Pls , it must be off, b4 i go..I dont want to get there, and d seller is struggling to put it off


*RULES/GUIDELINES FOR THE PICKUP SITES:
-These pickup sites involves me meeting each seller one on one..NO SHIPPING IS INVOLVED!!, NO PAYPAL!!!

-please, do not give out my number to any seller unless i have given you the permission to do so.

-No Refund for any item picked up.These sites dont come with buyer protection, so be sure of what ur asking me to go pick.(once i pick, i don pick ohh)

-please, by contacting me to go for pickup, you have agreed to the terms, which is you are responsible for what ever you have asked me to go pickup. I am not mr know all, OR Sabitu!, i will try my best to spot any fake products/items(just as i have done in the past)...But in cases where, the said item is original fake!,and am not able to spot them, we just have to live with it...(UR LOSS)!

-i dont buy sealed items pls.

-Please note that, "Failed Pickups", may arise if:
i)there is a NO SHOW on the sellers part(seller never showed up when i got there...waiting time, 25mins)
!!)On meeting the seller, Item was not described as what was advertised
hence , you still have to pay me for my time, enery and fuel burnt.

NOTE: , most oyinbos, dont know the meaning of unlocked phones, dey just wanna sell, so anything u ask them, dem go say yes..Please link up with the phone specialist...SAKALIS..09031976004, to know the unlocked nature and icloud status of any phone u want me to go pick...B4 sending me ohh...PLS

TIME DIFFERENCE:.Nigeria is 9hrs ahead of California.So when its 9pm in Nigeria, its 12noon(Afternoon ) in California.Please take this into consideration when communicating with me....Pickup commences 7.30am(California time) daily.

*PLEASE, NO DEPOSITS INTO MY ACCOUNT WITHOUT MY CONSENT, If u send cash to me when i no ask you, Na month end i go refund you ohh.... grin grin


*All home drops (@ the Tourist Lodge Hotel or Macdonalds @ crenshaw and Imperial is now $10)


NOTE: shipping of phones(medium priced phones), eg samsung s4, s5, note 4 , iphone 6 et etal are $10, for phones of higher class, you pay more..




My Contacts:

Location: Los Angeles Califonia
Tell: +1 4242361961
Whatsup:+1 4242361961


BANK :
Gtbnk...ODEGA MICHAEL
0011091586...Current Account




















Seems you are new here, this matter has been thrashed over and over again and the best advice I am holding on to is to not mind mikky's behavior and make your money through him, see your transactions with him as "dirt money". I had the same experience with him but I didn't come on here to complain, in the end, I got a good deal and everyone was happy.

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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by kapai(m): 9:45pm On Jan 24, 2018
I agree with you to a point but it's high time him"mikkyangel" be reminded of the need to maintain a good customership/client relation.He lacks good communication skills,should also know that it's business he does & not favour.
Opistorincos:


Seems you are new here, this matter has been thrashed over and over again and the best advice I am holding on to is to not mind mikky's behavior and make your money through him, see your transactions with him as "dirt money". I had the same experience with him but I didn't come on here to complain, in the end, I got a good deal and everyone was happy.
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by wildchild02: 10:00pm On Jan 24, 2018
Bar man gimme 1 bottle of Heineken grin
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mediocre(m): 10:15pm On Jan 24, 2018
warajaina:
I am not done talking, Michael odega.
You are rude , uncouth , lack manners and not only ignorant of good customer relationship you generally lack good communication.
Bia, you are not doing me a favour, you are being paid 375 a dollar for your services, so do not run your mouth like a dysentery induced colon.
Read this quoted words of yours, page 1 like you said and tell me where you said do not call.
You advised me to read, let me return the favour.
1. Go for anger management class.
2. Register for CRM courses.
Life na jeje.
Hian where is this coming from? Did he offend you in the spirit realm
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 10:28pm On Jan 24, 2018
*Chdu...super deal!!!
-mint Samsung s6 edge + VR....48k
-picked up in San Fe springs

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Brimmie(m): 10:37pm On Jan 24, 2018
Opistorincos:


Seems you are new here, this matter has been thrashed over and over again and the best advice I am holding on to is to not mind mikky's behavior and make your money through him, see your transactions with him as "dirt money". I had the same experience with him but I didn't come on here to complain, in the end, I got a good deal and everyone was happy.

And you had to quote the whole comment!? undecided
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 10:38pm On Jan 24, 2018
*Sola....super deal
-mint s6-----------------37k
-Na solid phone store be this ohhh, seller has samsung j7(2016)....see my whatsup profile for video.
-Also hit me up if u need the sellers parners whatsup number.(male partner)..he says he gets lots of phones weekly.
-phone is unlocked
-shipping...$10
-fuel......$20( La Tijera Blvd)

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Brimmie(m): 10:39pm On Jan 24, 2018
E be Like sey na only me never see “sweet deal” this year o!! sad sad
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by wildchild02: 10:47pm On Jan 24, 2018
Brimmie:
E be Like sey na only me never see “sweet deal” this year o!! sad sad

Bet you get offer up na, wetin me go come talk? sad sad God dey
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 10:49pm On Jan 24, 2018
*Chdu...another sweet deal!
-like new iphone 6(32gb)............48k
-fuel.....25
-ship to Lagos...10

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 10:54pm On Jan 24, 2018
*Osas.....iphone 6s(like new)...75k

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Dtarmon(m): 11:14pm On Jan 24, 2018
Brimmie:
E be Like sey na only me never see “sweet deal” this year o!! sad sad

I thought I'm the only one. This year dry somehow
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by bigmeechx: 12:23am On Jan 25, 2018
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Pidginwhisper: 1:13am On Jan 25, 2018
Abeg how much dem fit unlock s7 locked to verizon?
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Codedboy95(m): 1:17am On Jan 25, 2018
Pidginwhisper:
Abeg how much dem fit unlock s7 locked to verizon?
according to people on this thread.. Verizon works in naija. no need to unlock
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Failtech: 1:23am On Jan 25, 2018
Pidginwhisper:
Abeg how much dem fit unlock s7 locked to verizon?
All Verizon phones are unlocked
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Pidginwhisper: 1:38am On Jan 25, 2018
Codedboy95:
according to people on this thread.. Verizon works in naija. no need to unlock
Tnx bro, i just stumbled upon 2 crazy deals on offerup that beats my imagination..S7 locked to verizon for 50 and S7 edge locked to Tmobile for 60 grin grin
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Pidginwhisper: 1:43am On Jan 25, 2018
Failtech:

All Verizon phones are unlocked
alright bro, the seller just put locked to verizon...yet to hit him up though

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Codedboy95(m): 1:48am On Jan 25, 2018
Pidginwhisper:
Tnx bro, i just stumbled upon 2 crazy deals on offerup that beats my imagination..S7 locked to verizon for 50 and S7 edge locked to Tmobile for 60 grin grin
lol okay

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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Codedboy95(m): 1:57am On Jan 25, 2018
Pidginwhisper:
alright bro, the seller just put locked to verizon...yet to hit him up though
lol If you are interested, you shouldn't post it. now i have seen it and i am also interested
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Pidginwhisper: 2:04am On Jan 25, 2018
Codedboy95:
lol If you are interested, you shouldn't post it. now i have seen it and i am also interested
m actually not interested.. Am on the lookout for something else and posting it doesnt take anything away from me either as someone else might be interested on here wink

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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by WHIZKIDEFE(m): 6:49am On Jan 25, 2018
Codedboy95:
according to people on this thread.. Verizon works in naija. no need to unlock
Sorry to disturb you o, i don't really like Verizon n T-Mobiles brands, don't they sell or make deals on the Original versions?
.
That place dey confuse me and ayam not understanding.
Kindly explain to me, if you can.

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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mediocre(m): 7:27am On Jan 25, 2018
WHIZKIDEFE:
Sorry to disturb you o, i don't really like Verizon n T-Mobiles brands, don't they sell or make deals on the Original versions?
.
That place dey confuse me and ayam not understanding.
Kindly explain to me, if you can.
Original versions ke? You mean non-carrier locked?
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by frinx: 7:28am On Jan 25, 2018
fergieboy:

Use textnow
Textnow shows "please do not use VoIP number" any advice?
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by WHIZKIDEFE(m): 7:40am On Jan 25, 2018
mediocre:
Original versions ke? You mean non-carrier locked?
Gbam! Thats what i meant. Nor too blame me bros, the tin dey confuse me.
.
Don't they deal on non-carrier locked?
And what are major differences between carrier-locked and non-carrier locked?
-
Don't be offended o, i just want to know cos no knowledge is waste.
Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by Jeezy: 7:59am On Jan 25, 2018
I totally agree with you. I had a rude shock when i contacted him. He didnt bother to respond, and when i sent him a message to protest, he threatened to block me. He may have blocked me already. Customer Service is zero. I cannot work with someone like this, and I would not recommend him to anyone i know, even if i am looking for a good 'deal'. Abeg, make e shift.



warajaina:
I am not done talking, Michael odega.
You are rude , uncouth , lack manners and not only ignorant of good customer relationship you generally lack good communication.
Bia, you are not doing me a favour, you are being paid 375 a dollar for your services, so do not run your mouth like a dysentery induced colon.
Read this quoted words of yours, page 1 like you said and tell me where you said do not call.
You advised me to read, let me return the favour.
1. Go for anger management class.
2. Register for CRM courses.
Life na jeje.

[=mikkyangel post=15241021] PLEASE ! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!
BEWARE OF ONLINE SCAMMERS .....Call my Los Angeles number atlist one minute to confirm b4 u pay.

..Online Auction and "Buy it Now" approach through the world's most respected and trusted online marketing site "EBAY" is thus one very authentic means through which one can get goods online from USA and world over.

Haven mastered both Techniques, i have decided to open my thread to further provide Nigerians with perhaps the most affordable yet reliable means (shipping and handling) through which you can get "ORIGINAL PRODUCTS " live and direct from the world's most advanced nation US of A...

*PICKUP SITES INCLUDES
-Craiglist
-Offer up
-Letgo
-5mile
Los Angeles being a major hub and perhaps ,one of the most popular destinations in usa, provides us with wealth of choices through which we can choose from..places of concentration but not limited to includes:"PLEASE, NOTE THAT N9JA IS 9HRS AHEAD OF CALIFORNIA, So when contacting me, please put this into consideration.
-Also note that i like to take my break between 1pm to 7pm in the Afternoon(this is when traffic gets really bad)

*Areas of Close proximity to me...fuel charges ranges between $18 to $25.
-Inglewood
-Hawthorne
-El Segundo
-Gardena
-Lax
-Compton
-Culver City
-Marina Dey Rey
-Player Vister
-Torrance
-lynwood



*Areas far from me.(usually where u get the best deals/Oyinbo Area)
-Longbeach($35/ 1hr drive ..back n forth)
-Signal Hill
-bellflower
-El-monte
-South Gate
-Beverlyhills...$45
-Bell
-monrovia($75)
-La Puente
-Rosemaid....$55
-Paramount $55
-Azuza.....$70
-Canyon country
-west covina.......$60
-Hollywood ($40)
-North Hollywood ($45)
-Ventura...$70
-Costa mesa.....$70
-Sanfe.Springs
-Pasadena ($55)
-Glendale($55)
-Vanuys ($55)
-Redondo Beach
-Hermosa Beach
-malibu......$75
-Topanga
-Venice Beach
-Manhattan Beach
-Santa Monica($35 )
-Santa Anna($55)
-Anaheim($55)
-Burbank ($55)
-Sherman Oaks($55)
-DownTown..$35
-Wishire Blvd
-Chino Hills($70)
-Inland Empire..$75
-Buena Park..$55
-Montebello
-Alhambra..$55
-Rancho Palos Verdes
-Sherman way($55)
-Whittier.$55
-Norwalk $45
-Fullerton...$65
-La Mirada
-Temple city
-San Gabriel
-Rancho Cucamonga
-Encino($55)
-Cudahi
-Downey
-Diamond Bar.......$70
-Glendora.....$80
-Garden Groove......$60
-lomita
-Carson......$35
-Pomona...........$60
*Jamaican Phone seller...$55 for fuel to meet him in Vanuys


*NO GO AREAS Includes:
-Sandiego
-Santa Babara
-San Fransico
-Bakers Field
-Palmdale
-Santa.Clarita
-Lancasta

*STEPS TOWARDS A SUCCESSFUL PICK :
-Check the pickup sites for ur choices( it must be within Los Angeles of its environ)
-When you find any deal, contact ur seller via chat(no tell am say u dey n9ja ohh), please, you as the 1st point of contact should always get all necessary info ready for me
i) Ur names used in the site and which site ur asking me to go for pickup.
ii)Seller"s phone number (very importatnt), if no phone number, no deal
iii)Price you have agreed
iv) Ask seller if the item has any issues, cracked screen(which may not be shown on the advert), Ask seller if item powers on, ask! Ask!! Asn ask!!!, also ask about camera and finger print censor.If item includes accessories, please be specific..
-Please try as much as possible to convince the seller to meet me in a public Place (Starbucks, Macdonalds or Police station), for my own safety..meeting these said sellers at these location, affords me enough time to properly check the item,if ur not able to convince the seller, I might still use my descretion..(if na.oyinbo vicinity.,I fit still enter road go meet am)..But check dez items well well mayb dificult.
-i will give u quotation based on the pickup location.
-Please be ready to make ur deposit within 15minutes of the seller asking me to come.DO NOT HIT ME UP TO TELL ME ITS MIDNITE HERE, YOU WILL DEPOSIT TOMMORROW.

-Please if am picking up an Iphone, u need to check its imei number urself, make sure "Find my phone is off", before u ask me to hit the road.Pls , it must be off, b4 i go..I dont want to get there, and d seller is struggling to put it off


*RULES/GUIDELINES FOR THE PICKUP SITES:
-These pickup sites involves me meeting each seller one on one..NO SHIPPING IS INVOLVED!!, NO PAYPAL!!!

-please, do not give out my number to any seller unless i have given you the permission to do so.

-No Refund for any item picked up.These sites dont come with buyer protection, so be sure of what ur asking me to go pick.(once i pick, i don pick ohh)

-please, by contacting me to go for pickup, you have agreed to the terms, which is you are responsible for what ever you have asked me to go pickup. I am not mr know all, OR Sabitu!, i will try my best to spot any fake products/items(just as i have done in the past)...But in cases where, the said item is original fake!,and am not able to spot them, we just have to live with it...(UR LOSS)!

-i dont buy sealed items pls.

-Please note that, "Failed Pickups", may arise if:
i)there is a NO SHOW on the sellers part(seller never showed up when i got there...waiting time, 25mins)
!!)On meeting the seller, Item was not described as what was advertised
hence , you still have to pay me for my time, enery and fuel burnt.

NOTE: , most oyinbos, dont know the meaning of unlocked phones, dey just wanna sell, so anything u ask them, dem go say yes..Please link up with the phone specialist...SAKALIS..09031976004, to know the unlocked nature and icloud status of any phone u want me to go pick...B4 sending me ohh...PLS

TIME DIFFERENCE:.Nigeria is 9hrs ahead of California.So when its 9pm in Nigeria, its 12noon(Afternoon ) in California.Please take this into consideration when communicating with me....Pickup commences 7.30am(California time) daily.

*PLEASE, NO DEPOSITS INTO MY ACCOUNT WITHOUT MY CONSENT, If u send cash to me when i no ask you, Na month end i go refund you ohh.... grin grin


*All home drops (@ the Tourist Lodge Hotel or Macdonalds @ crenshaw and Imperial is now $10)


NOTE: shipping of phones(medium priced phones), eg samsung s4, s5, note 4 , iphone 6 et etal are $10, for phones of higher class, you pay more..




My Contacts:

Location: Los Angeles Califonia
Tell: +1 4242361961
Whatsup:+1 4242361961


BANK :
Gtbnk...ODEGA MICHAEL
0011091586...Current Account



















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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 8:48am On Jan 25, 2018
* Last BATCH OF Pickups for the DAY!(over 12 cities visited).
- i might have to ship again tmorrow( which makes it 2 batches in a week)...


*Amche...New iphone 7plus, picked up in the city of La Cienega

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by sakalisis(m): 8:54am On Jan 25, 2018
Hot Service, Very Hot


ATT
All iphone from 6-7+
::::
Under Contract, Active on another account, Any Imei Supported (unless blacklisted)
::::
Minimum 24hours
Maximum 5days

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Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 9:00am On Jan 25, 2018
*O"dami!, ....29k alert received
-Note 5, picked up in Los angeles via "Let Go"
-fuel....$20
-ship to lagos...$10

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 9:07am On Jan 25, 2018
*More crazy picks..
Em.mic...picked up from E.manchester blvd.
-Samsung s8+ ....56k
-charger and case included.
-fuel......30

Re: California(Los Angeles),pickup services..Online purchase..(Ebay/Amazon,walmart) by mikkyangel(m): 9:17am On Jan 25, 2018
*BN...home drop off..(San fernando Valley)
-Lenovo Yogo ( Intel core i7+ 8th Generation)= 37k.... shocked...wow

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