From the BBC;

Ape-like feet 'found in study of museum visitors'
By Melissa Hogenboom
Science reporter, BBC News


A team studied the feet of 398 visitors to the Boston Museum of Science.

The results show differences in foot bone structure similar to those seen in fossils of a member of the human lineage from two million years ago.

It is hoped the research, published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, will establish how that creature moved.

Apes like the chimpanzee spend a lot of their time in trees, so their flexible feet are essential to grip branches and allow them to move around quickly - but how most of us ended up with more rigid feet remains unclear.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22716718





So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism?

really? is this physically manifested on the outside? can we see the difference?

I think I have these ape-like feet. .

Logicboy03: From the BBC;



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22716718





So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism?

I saw this

Hmmm.....

I want to extend my tail. The small thing I had is killing my identity

Logicboy03:
A team studied the feet of 398 visitors to the Boston Museum of Science.

The results show differences in foot bone structure similar to those seen in fossils of a member of the human lineage from two million years ago.

It is hoped the research, published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, will establish how that creature moved.

Apes like the chimpanzee spend a lot of their time in trees, so their flexible feet are essential to grip branches and allow them to move around quickly - but how most of us ended up with more rigid feet remains unclear.
So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism?

@ bold- I believe if you read the news very well you won't post it because it doesn't favour evolution.

Errors in the genetic processes that make the feet. Cojsider that, in cows there's a gene which regulates their musculature. If these genes are knocked out, you have cows with abnormally huge muscles. Does this prove evolution via common descent ? No. Here's why. The major mechanisms of evolution is random mutation (making novel traits) and natural selection (ensuring the survival and increase of these traits). In this case, mutations did not make a novel trait (the trait had since been in the genes). Did natural selection ensure the survival and increase of these traits ? No data (when it first appeared, the frequency then and now) to conclude that but it's unlikely since it doesn't involve a mutation in a sex cell (which is necessary to spread this trait in a population). I certainly hope people won't argue ape feet is a novel trait, or else aberrations such as 6 fingers and toes, cojoined twins and the hairiest man in the world would be termed novel.

Logicboy03: From the BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22716718

So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism?

I think this suffers from a post hoc fallacy like typical evidences for common ancestry. Point to an observed fact and say it means common descent occurred. Common descent suffers from the fact that in species that have been strongly bred for a particular trait, or which have undergone mutations there is a limit to the species (a fuzzy concept) barrier. Consider that bacteria, fruit flies, dogs have either bred for specific traits (dogs) or undergone lots of mutations (fruit flies) or supposedly been around for billions of years (cyano bacteria) and yet remain largely the same.

PAGAN 9JA:
really? is this physically manifested on the outside? can we see the difference?

I think I have these ape-like feet. .

You have always been a true african monkey

Logicboy03: From the BBC;



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22716718





So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism?

bullshid.
they just won't stop this madness despite being debunked...BY THEMSELVES.
evolution: man from ape is a fraud.

Logicboy03:



You have always been a true african monkey

smh.

*Kails*:


bullshid.
they just won't stop this madness despite being debunked...BY THEMSELVES.
evolution: man from ape is a fraud.

Yet, you want your boyfriend to be a strong gorilla in bed.

Emusan:




@ bold- I believe if you read the news very well you won't post it because it doesn't favour evolution.

see this one.....that was the title of the article and was explained further in the full article


lazy bones....read the full article

Logicboy03:


Yet, you want your boyfriend to be a strong gorilla in bed.

no!
where you get that from?

someone's been watching king kong and mighty joe young movies i see.

Uyi Iredia: Errors in the genetic processes that make the feet. Cojsider that, in cows there's a gene which regulates their musculature. If these genes are knocked out, you have cows with abnormally huge muscles. Does this prove evolution via common descent ? No. Here's why. The major mechanisms of evolution is random mutation (making novel traits) and natural selection (ensuring the survival and increase of these traits). In this case, mutations did not make a novel trait (the trait had since been in the genes). Did natural selection ensure the survival and increase of these traits ? No data (when it first appeared, the frequency then and now) to conclude that but it's unlikely since it doesn't involve a mutation in a sex cell (which is necessary to spread this trait in a population). I certainly hope people won't argue ape feet is a novel trait, or else aberrations such as 6 fingers and toes, cojoined twins and the hairiest man in the world would be termed novel.

How do you want me to start to reply to this pseudo-scientific babble?

*Kails*:


no!
where you get that from?

someone's been watching king kong and mighty joe young movies i see.

lol....stop lying....I've seen that booty and it aint for normal men....just saying.

Uyi Iredia:

I think this suffers from a post hoc fallacy like typical evidences for common ancestry. Point to an observed fact and say it means common descent occurred. Common descent suffers from the fact that in species that have been strongly bred for a particular trait, or which have undergone mutations there is a limit to the species (a fuzzy concept) barrier. Consider that bacteria, fruit flies, dogs have either bred for specific traits (dogs) or undergone lots of mutations (fruit flies) or supposedly been around for billions of years (cyano bacteria) and yet remain largely the same.

who said that this is proof of common ancestry?

Logicboy03:

lol....stop lying....I've seen that booty and it aint for normal men....just saying.

geeeze!!

Logicboy03:



who said that this is proof of common ancestry?

be honest bro.
was that not what you were implying when you asked "So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism"

and we all know you are pro-evolution.

Uyi Iredia:

I think this suffers from a post hoc fallacy like typical evidences for common ancestry. Point to an observed fact and say it means common descent occurred. Common descent suffers from the fact that in species that have been strongly bred for a particular trait, or which have undergone mutations there is a limit to the species (a fuzzy concept) barrier. Consider that bacteria, fruit flies, dogs have either bred for specific traits (dogs) or undergone lots of mutations (fruit flies) or supposedly been around for billions of years (cyano bacteria) and yet remain largely the same.

gbam. all of the other animals and life forms have mutated to larger or smaller versions of themselves...yet we have evolved into a completely different species.

#foolery¹⁰⁰

Logicboy03:

see this one.....that was the title of the article and was explained further in the full article

lazy bones....read the full article

I didn't read the full story before, but thank God I did it now.

See the conclusion of the research the same report!

Tracy Kivell, a palaeoanthropologist from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, said: "The research has implications for how we interpret the fossil record and the evolution of these features.
"It's good to understand the normal variation among humans before we go figure out what it means in the fossil record," Dr Kivell told BBC News

if God will expose things this is how it will be. Like I said early if you really understand the research statement you won't create this thread. Then why are you claiming what is not true.

Base on your thread titled "library for atheist" it truly means atheism is disbelief in God with personal hatered not because there's evidence.

How I wish all atheist can learn from this.

*Kails*:


be honest bro.
was that not what you were implying when you asked "So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism"

and we all know you are pro-evolution.




gbam. all of the other animals and life forms have mutated to larger or smaller versions of themselves...yet we have evolved into a completely different species.

#foolery¹⁰⁰

What?

Yes, I accept evolution.

All I did was to ask which explains the findings better, evolution or creationism?

*Kails*:




geeeze!!

Please don't argue with them any more 'logicboy03 has exposed the secret of atheist.

See my post above

Emusan:

I didn't read the full story before, but thank God I did it now.

See the conclusion of the research the same report!

Tracy Kivell, a palaeoanthropologist from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, said: "The research has implications for how we interpret the fossil record and the evolution of these features.
"It's good to understand the normal variation among humans before we go figure out what it means in the fossil record," Dr Kivell told BBC News

if God will expose things this is how it will be. Like I said early if you really understand the research statement you won't create this thread. Then why are you claiming what is not true.

Base on your thread titled "library for atheist" it truly means atheism is disbelief in God with personal hatered not because there's evidence.

How I wish all atheist can learn from this.

I give up.

Logicboy03:




I give up.

Don't give up my dear, just go on your knees and ask for forgiveness from God and He will surely forgive you.

Logicboy03:




I give up.

Emusan:

Don't give up my dear, just go on your knees and ask for forgiveness from God and He will surely forgive you.

lwkmd!

Logicboy03:


What?

Yes, I accept evolution.

All I did was to ask which explains the findings better, evolution or creationism?

Ehen.

you already know my answer to that question.

Emusan:

Please don't argue with them any more 'logicboy03 has exposed the secret of atheist.

See my post above

i am not trying to be funny dear...but what secret?
we all know they have issues. that cat has been let out of the hat long ago.

i think logic is more agnostic than outright athiest. and he knows it too.

Emusan:

Don't give up my dear, just go on your knees and ask for forgiveness from God and He will surely forgive you.

Forgive me for what? Using my brain is now a sin?

Logicboy03:


Forgive me for what? Using my brain is now a sin?

good question.

Logicboy03:

Forgive me for what? Using my brain is now a sin?

Let me ask you this, do you believe sin do exist?

Using your brain is not a sin.

Emusan:

Let me ask you this, do you believe sin do exist?

Using your brain is not a sin.

I dont believe in sin

Logicboy03:

I dont believe in sin

Alright.

God will help us!

*Kails*:


be honest bro.
was that not what you were implying when you asked "So, what explains this phenomena? Evolution or bible creationism"

and we all know you are pro-evolution.

Indeed. I think it's a rhetoric question. We know what the answer would be.

*Kails*:

gbam. all of the other animals and life forms have mutated to larger or smaller versions of themselves...yet we have evolved into a completely different species.

#foolery¹⁰⁰

Indeed.

*Kails*:

i think logic is more agnostic than outright athiest. and he knows it too.

Nah ! He atheist.