The more familiar i get with yoruba the less different the language sounds. It seems to me that the common origin theory isn't too far off the mark, and more importantly the time of seperation between the two cultures wasn't as long ago as one would assume.

for example
Eko O ni baje (Lagos shall not spoil)
Lagos a ga na bajiye (Lagos shall not break)
Lagos o ga na bajiye (Lagos, it will not break)


some common yoruba phrases i've been hearing sound like igbo when you sit down and think about them phonetically. I remember my friend telling me her parents used to alway say "I'll slap the light out of your ear") Which is also a common igbo threat lol. I was surprised that the two phrases were almost identical.

Ikengawo: The more familiar i get with yoruba the less different the language sounds. It seems to me that the common origin theory isn't too far off the mark, and more importantly the time of seperation between the two cultures wasn't as long ago as one would assume.

for example
Eko O ni baje (Lagos shall not spoil)
Lagos a ga na bajiye (Lagos shall not break)
Lagos o ga na bajiye (Lagos, it will not break)


some common yoruba phrases i've been hearing sound like igbo when you sit down and think about them phonetically. I remember my friend telling me her parents used to alway say "I'll slap the light out of your ear" Which is also a common igbo threat lol. I was surprised that the two phrases were almost identical.

im sure u are very aware of d HUGE difference btw d two entities....especially here on NL .
lol,there can neva be anytin in common wit a cat & a mouse

Ikengawo:
for example
Eko O ni baje (Lagos shall not spoil)
Lagos a ga na bajiye (Lagos shall not break)
Lagos o ga na bajiye (Lagos, it will not break)

What language is "Lagos a ga na bajiye? " I hope It's not igbo language?

What's 'bajiye'? Is that an Igbo word?

IGBO-SON:
What's 'bajiye'? Is that an Igbo word?

can u see confusion is not d same as conviction as i v sampled earlier.....thats y u & d other girl had to ask him wat language he meant by.

Ikengawo: The more familiar i get with yoruba the less different the language sounds. It seems to me that the common origin theory isn't too far off the mark, and more importantly the time of seperation between the two cultures wasn't as long ago as one would assume.

for example
Eko O ni baje (Lagos shall not spoil)
Lagos a ga na bajiye (Lagos shall not break)
Lagos o ga na bajiye (Lagos, it will not break)


some common yoruba phrases i've been hearing sound like igbo when you sit down and think about them phonetically. I remember my friend telling me her parents used to alway say "I'll slap the light out of your ear" Which is also a common igbo threat lol. I was surprised that the two phrases were almost identical.

Ikengawo,

Many words in your language is borrowed from Bini, which in turn is a Yoruba tongue.

Outside of such dialect link, nothing else is common. Philosophy is completely opposite, as is the customs and social values. Linguistically and by extension, Igbo language is a sub-subYoruba dialect.

IGBO-SON:
What's 'bajiye'? Is that an Igbo word?

E be like say the guy don high this night! He must have drank to stupor. smh.

Ke nke bu Bajiye

This is the same kind of behaviour that led us into the Niggerian trap. Trying to find commonalities in the uncommon.

Afam4eva: Ke nke bu Bajiye

Gbajie is to break in Igbo. We actually have similarities. "Duro" means "to stay", "wait" or "sit down" in many Igbo dialects. "Kini" is used as what in some Igbo dialects as well and those are shared with Yoruba. EJIma is IbEJI for twins. Eti is Nti for ear, Enu is Onu and also enu in many Igbo dialects for mouth. I've heard of Odibo for servant, Akpati for box, Omi for Mmiri/water, Ifa for afa/ritual wa for bia/come. Its too numerous to mention but during my youth service, I often mistook some Yoruba for Igbo if not for the deep tone in Yoruba.

Dibiachukwu: This is the same kind of behaviour that led us into the Niggerian trap. Trying to find commonalities in the uncommon.

abeg tell ur bros 'em.....abi se na by force

Abagworo:

Gbajie is to break in Igbo. We actually have similarities. "Duro" means "to stay", "wait" or "sit down" in many Igbo dialects. "Kini" is used as what in some Igbo dialects as well and those are shared with Yoruba. EJIma is IbEJI for twins. Eti is Nti for ear, Enu is Onu and also enu in many Igbo dialects for mouth. I've heard of Odibo for servant, Akpati for box, Omi for Mmiri/water, Ifa for afa/ritual wa for bia/come. Its too numerous to mention but during my youth service, I often mistook some Yoruba for Igbo if not for the deep tone in Yoruba.

SE NA BY FORCE ,haha?

Ikengawo: The more familiar i get with yoruba the less different the language sounds. It seems to me that the common origin theory isn't too far off the mark, and more importantly the time of seperation between the two cultures wasn't as long ago as one would assume.

for example
Eko O ni baje (Lagos shall not spoil)
Lagos a ga na bajiye (Lagos shall not break)
Lagos o ga na bajiye (Lagos, it will not break)

NA BY FORCE NI,haha?

St_Black:
can u see confusion is not d same as conviction as i v sampled earlier.....thats y u & d other girl had to ask him wat language he meant by.

say 'break' in Igbo. smh. (Bajiye or Baje)

Ikengawo:

say 'break' in Igbo. smh. (Bajiye or Baje)

STFU mumu.break is "kan" in yoruba and not bajiye or wateva jargon u r flowing..

IGBO-SON:
What's 'bajiye'? Is that an Igbo word?

i wonder o

IGBO-SON:
What's 'bajiye'? Is that an Igbo word?

i wonder o,the guy s trying to twist igbo to sound like yoruba

"Lagos, o ga na agbaji" doesn't even make sense in Igbo. The proper way to translate "Eko o ni baje" would be "Lagos agaghi emebi" (Lagos shall not spoil).

To be very honest, not everyone is going to be intelligent or well exposed enough for this conversation. You'll have to have a reasonable understanding of phonetics, history and allusion. These are three subjects that aren't taught or are taught poorly in Nigerians schools. I'm ok with anyone that doesn't understand gbajiye/baje/bajiye are similar, I just ask you say what you need and leave because it's not by force that you belong to every subject.

Ikengawo: To be very honest, not everyone is going to be intelligent or well exposed enough for this conversation. You'll have to have a reasonable understanding of phonetics, history and allusion. These are three subjects that aren't taught or are taught poorly in Nigerians schools. I'm ok with anyone that doesn't understand gbajiye/baje/bajiye are similar, I just ask you say what you need and leave because it's not by force that you belong to every subject.

The main point is that "gbajié" doesn't carry the same connotation as "baje" and neither do the two words sound the same. The 'j' in 'gbajié' is hard and sounds like the letter 'g' (gee). The 'j' in 'baje' is soft and sounds like 'zh' as in 'Zhou' (or an Owere man's pronounciation of 'zi' as in 'to show').

Furthermore, when saying that "the world has spoiled" in Igbo, we say "uwa emebiela" and not "uwa agbajiela". This means that "gbajie" is not the Igbo equivalent of "baje" and that the two words serve entirely different purposes.

I think it's less of a whole common origin than it is influence from a particular group that blended across the region. These discussions are too Yoruba-Igbo/Colonial borders focused, which gives it a tint of 'by force brotherhood'. There are probably more similarities between Yoruba-Fon, and Igbo-Efik, than Yoruba-Igbo, not to mention the Urhobo, Ishan, Bini, Igala, Isoko, and other micro-ethnicities and their inner divisions that are present between the Igbo and Yoruba.

Yoruba and Igbo themselves are arguably just a language group that exterior forces bonded together.

People make it seem like Yoruba and Igbo have always been in Nigeria interacting with only each other and without hinderance from those between them.

gbanikiti: E be like say the guy don high this night! He must have drank to stupor. smh.

He is always high