F00028: what list? who told you there was a list??
he wasn't there to take a roll call of the inhabitants.

deSika: are you for real. no jihad fighters in paradise.

tosin2013: So ur so called list are all those in paradise? So where is Noah,Solomon, David Elijah Lot etc.dat were even prophets!

Candid advice; U NEED YABA LEFT!

deols: what more do you want to hear? He wasnt there for a roll call nor did he mention seeing everyone in paradise.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012, desika, bacilico: heavens [7 layers] are not Paradise. Paradise is beyond all of them. Paradise may be further that the farthest lote tree. The lote tree is the divider between this world [earth all the way to 7th heaven and just before the point of the lote tree].

Our father Adam [as] was on first. Jesus and John [as] on 2nd. Enoch [Idris] [as] who was elevated [as in some prophets are raised up more than others] was on 3rd. The prophet saw many more [including Yusuf, etc]. So on 6th was Moses [as] who he discussed the number of daily salah with and on the 7th was Abraham leaning on Baitul Mamur [heavenly sister structure of Kaaba, which it is directly opposite on top of]. It is this house that there are everyday 70,000 angels make pilgrimage to it, and never to return to it.

Were any of the prophets in Paradise when he met each? No. None of them was in paradise but in their assigned spaces and levels of the heavens. Heavens are not Paradise. I see why you christians are falling over each other in lack of understanding. Heaven is your destination. Paradise is ours inshaAllah. in heaven there are paradise and hell already. We will take paradise and we want you to cross to Islam to be able to, otherwise the alternative is not sweet.


Did Muhammad [sa] see anyone in Paradise? Believers. Proofs; The Quran says martyrs are in paradise already so Sumayya bint Khabat [RA] is in there, including Hamza bin Abi Mutalib [RA] and many more.

Hadith; Muhammad [SA] said to Bilal bin Rabah that he heard the sound of his shoes in from of him in Paradise.

usba: So the Christians believe Muhammad pbuh was actually in heaven? Niiiiiiiice!!!

maclatunji:

They don't. This particular Christian is just looking for an argument.

usba:

Then he deserve our pity, he cannot have his cake and eat it at the same time, either he agrees that Muhammad pbuh was in Heaven and that the same Qur'an he quotes from are valid or he argument will make little to no sense, as the Qur'an is filled with numerous verses stating Muslims will go to Paradise . . . hence if the verse he relies states Muhammad SAW saw prophets of old in paradise is acceptable, then it follows that other verses are equally acceptable that states muslims will go to paradise . . .

RoyPCain: @truthman2012, desika, basilico: heavens [7 layers] are not Paradise. Paradise is beyond all of them. Paradise may be further that the farthest lote tree. The lote tree is the divider between this world [earth all the way to 7th heaven and just before the point of the lote tree].

Our father Adam [as] was on first. Jesus and John [as] on 2nd. Enoch [Idris] [as] who was elevated [as in some prophets are raised up more than others] was on 3rd. The prophet saw many more [including Yusuf, etc]. So on 6th was Moses [as] who he discussed the number of daily salah with and on the 7th was Abraham leaning on Baitul Mamur [heavenly sister structure of Kaaba, which it is directly opposite on top of]. It is this house that there are everyday 70,000 angels make pilgrimage to it, and never to return to it.

Were any of the prophets in Paradise when he met each? No. None of them was in paradise but in their assigned spaces and levels of the heavens. Heavens are not Paradise. I see why you christians are falling over each other in lack of understanding. Heaven is your destination. Paradise is ours inshaAllah. in heaven there are paradise and hell already. We will take paradise and we want you to cross to Islam to be able to, otherwise the alternative is not sweet.


Did Muhammad [sa] see anyone in Paradise? Believers. Proofs; The Quran says martyrs are in paradise already so Sumayya bint Khabat [RA] is in there, including Hamza bin Abi Mutalib [RA] and many more.

Hadith; Muhammad [SA] said to Bilal bin Rabah that he heard the sound of his shoes in from of him in Paradise.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012, desika, basilico: heavens [7 layers] are not Paradise. Paradise is beyond all of them. Paradise may be further that the farthest lote tree. The lote tree is the divider between this world [earth all the way to 7th heaven and just before the point of the lote tree].

Our father Adam [as] was on first. Jesus and John [as] on 2nd. Enoch [Idris] [as] who was elevated [as in some prophets are raised up more than others] was on 3rd. The prophet saw many more [including Yusuf, etc]. So on 6th was Moses [as] who he discussed the number of daily salah with and on the 7th was Abraham leaning on Baitul Mamur [heavenly sister structure of Kaaba, which it is directly opposite on top of]. It is this house that there are everyday 70,000 angels make pilgrimage to it, and never to return to it.

Were any of the prophets in Paradise when he met each? No. None of them was in paradise but in their assigned spaces and levels of the heavens. Heavens are not Paradise. I see why you christians are falling over each other in lack of understanding. Heaven is your destination. Paradise is ours inshaAllah. in heaven there are paradise and hell already. We will take paradise and we want you to cross to Islam to be able to, otherwise the alternative is not sweet.


Did Muhammad [sa] see anyone in Paradise? Believers. Proofs; The Quran says martyrs are in paradise already so Sumayya bint Khabat [RA] is in there, including Hamza bin Abi Mutalib [RA] and many more.

Hadith; Muhammad [SA] said to Bilal bin Rabah that he heard the sound of his shoes in from of him in Paradise.

by truthman2012: 7:00pm

You said the 7 layers Muhammad went was not paradise. Who is lying here. Your hadith says Muhammad was taken on a horse-like being to paradise in his one-night journey to the 7-layers. Are you confused? Or the hadith is the confusion?

You said Muhammad heard the sound of Bilal's shoes in paradise when he was not dead yet. Do people go to paradise alive? Do people wear shoes there? Which company is producing shoes in paradise?

So it was the sound of only Bilals shoes he heard in paradise, what happened to the whole lot of his other followers? Where are they?

Chris†Kid:
Lmao @ how muhammad was bargaining number of prayers to be offered. It seems like Moses understands humans better than muhammad and allah put together.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012;

Again, 'heavens' is not paradise. maybe in christianity it is the final place of felicity since all you do will be clapping and singing. before Muhammad [sa] got to paradise, he passed through 7 layers of heavens. in these 7 layers he met the prophets you listed. Martyrs in Islam are already lodged in Paradise. you see the complete state of things now, truthmn2012? shine your eyes and shine your mind. if you think people are gonna be naked in paradise, why do you people dress you dead in fine suits? He foresaw Bilal [ra] who was still alive in paradise by hearing the sound of his shoes. So Alhamdulillah the martyrs were already there as well since they were already dead.

it seems as if you agreed with the explanation? when are you going to enter Islam my dear brother? dont let satan suggest any reason you should remain out. Hell is not something to wish an enemy because extreme heat is no joke. its summer time in northern hemisphere and everyone is feeling it already. its gonna be a crazy lazy daz of summer soon when even the air conditioner may not be able to handle the extreme heat in some places. that is nothing when you talk about fire to punish.

tosin2013: I don't think its worth it trying to explain to these clowns!
This thread was created for the pupose of trolling!

No matter aw much u keep explaining they keep twisting and turning facts!

Dis ones don't ask for sake of understanding islamic principles they do so for ridicule. Really pathetic.

by truthman2012: 8:00pm On Jun 24

''.....Hell is not something you wish an enemy'' That is right. That is why I pity you muslims as your Allah promised you hellfire (Quran 19:68-72, and Bukhari Vol. 1, Book 12, Number 770). If you go through them thoughtfully and sincerely, you will run to Jesus (Messiah) for salvation. Unless you are saying Allah does not mean what he said.

Let me ask you a question: those people Muhammad saw in paradise, when are they going to enter hell to cross the bridge to heaven?

RoyPCain: @truthman21013:

if you read Quran 19 starting from 65 through 74, you will see all humans in it, everyone, Jesus, Muhammad Adam, and all prophets [as]. You will not escape by thinking somebody will help you. If you die outside Islam, well. Allah is Merciful so y this thread you have no excuse and we in Islam may have our argument that we try to call you to guidance, away from misguidance. Abraham in the Bible was thrown in the fire. He was not hurt by it. So if Allah make the muslims enter it, it is by His Might and perhaps, it is a test also and He prevents it to burn those who keep faith in Him.

But you, I pray you dont die as enemy of Allah. do you know what kings do to their enemies that is in their grip? do you wanna chance anything against your Creator and dont see disaster at the end?

The fact that the prophet saw Muslims in Paradise already if thats what you are saying agrees with Quran 19/65-74 that those who will be herded or thrown into hell are not sincere muslims, but hardened non muslims, InshaAllah. You are a hardened non muslim, truthman2013. you are young and there is still a lot of life in you. go and study Islam and ask your question and challenge your mind and the church leaders. do it quickly so that you may be a source of real salvation to the others in your bloodline, the older people who by tradition, christians not knowing that Jesus didnt ask anyone to create a religion on him, but he didnt die at all so how can he die for anybody when each has to die physically and only by obedience to God in worship and good deeds faithfully is the ingredient of Merciful Salvation.

the prophets were in heavens; there are 7 layers of heavens. no one of the 7 is paradise. Paradise is a different creation and heavens as entity is a different creation. dont wear christian eye glasses to discuss islamic materils.