PAGAN 9JA:
have you lost your mind

Laalamed: The truth is that killings would continue even in western countries because many people still hold to paganism, a form of demonism. This makes satan happy. True christian will not kill and learn to kill. True christians are not soldiers, arm robbers, bokoharamists, terrorists, ritualists, magicians and so on.

Laalamed:
do not abuse. prove me wrong. it is insane people that use abuse to reply. pagans use virgins for ritual,pagans kill twin, pagans are backward no innovation. let pagans produce cars,gsm etc.

Mudley313:


...and what is up with this pagan 9ja guy? i bet you're sockpuppet account of some christian on here; paganism is not like some particular religion; it is basically a broad term to depict non-abrahamic religions (shamanism, polytheism, pantheism, animism), and in the hebrew bible is comparable to a heretic or infidel...if the african traditional religious practices is what you subscribe to, at the end of the day, even though it makes more sense following the belief system of your forebears rather than a religion of foreigners who actually exploited and enslaved you, it's as delusional and irrational as any other of the major belief system; and apart from the fact that beliefs in irrational jargons usually stagnates societal progress, it has it's fair share of barbaric savagery like human sacrifices and killing of twins

striktlymi: Morning Laa,

Your OP is very contradictory....

Pagans were rendered powerless with the advent of some foreign religions but still they are the cause of the killings?

In effect what you are saying is that the militants in South south are pagans...

Every Bokoharam member is a pagan....

Every president or military head of states we have had is a pagan...

The kidnappings in the East are done by pagans...

What I see here is one who is accusing a group falsely and in the spirit of fairness, I believe this thread should be thrashed by the mods cause that's where it belongs...no disrespect intended!

PAGAN 9JA:




hey stiktlymi,

THank You very much brother. You are the only christian I respect on this forum.

you are not even fit to be a christian.

striktlymi:

If by the bold you mean I need to be a better christian, then I agree!

But seriously, it is very obvious that the OP is VERY VERY VERY biased and unfair. The sad reality is that members of the Christian and Muslim religions have done more damage to the Country than pagans put together.

PAGAN 9JA:



lmao no I meant you would be better as a Nigerian/Pagan. anyway ill let the winds take their course. .


yeah its true. Personally I believe Op was just looking for trouble.

PAGAN 9JA:



hey Dont teach me about my own religion.

Don't you see my profile Im speaking for all Pagan religions of the world.

Exactly! Im speaking for all ethnoc-tribal religions.

Maybe its delusional and irrational to you but not for me.

Im born Pagan and Im sticking to it and Im going to spread it aswell.

When I see the progress of Pagan Nations in Asia, and when I hear stories of the Great Pagan Kingdoms of the past, Im filled with envy and I wish my nation to become Pagan and progress as well. both materiall, and spiritually. and also morally.

How does it stagnate progress when we were the ones who kickstarted progress in the first place!!!!

Since the dawn of christianity and islam, we have never been able to show ourselvs to our full potential. WHY? because we have never been given the chance to grow and progress. we have never been celebrated but always shunned.

PLEASE FOR GODS' SAKE, WE DO NOT DO TWIN SACRIFICES! STOP REPEATING THE SAME BULLSH!T AGAIN AND AGAIN! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF YOU DOING SO AND ME EXPLAINING a MILLION TIMES!

AND THEN YOU GUYZ ASK ME WHY DO I CURSE SO MUCH AND GET BANNED! MY GODS IM SICK OF THIS!

Mudley313:
paganism is not a "particular" religion, you heathen dumb fvck

oh ok...but hope you know that's kinda ambiguous as hell; you're speaking for people of different culture, geographical location, belief systems, and even totally different time eras

which exact pagan belief do you subscribe to? all of them?? cos that's not different from claiming to be part of all existing religion; if that on its own is not irrational and delusional, i dunno what is

<rollseyes> china is mostly buddhist, india is mostly hindu, japan is mostly shinto; ancient egypt practiced a polytheistic religion centered on their pharoah, the greeks were hellenistic, the roman were made up of various cults until constantine converted to christianity...so, only you wanna claim all these totally different religions and culture? why not just say you see progress in the human race; cos that is what you seem to be claiming right now; the whole human race

who is this "we"...you're so quixotic in your beliefs it's not even funny...are you not african; you african pagan forebears could not even build a vessel that was sea worthy

and yet again i ask; who is this we you speak of? there's freedom to practice whatever religion you choose in most western nations including the united states and japan

ok, i give you that one cos i know of how the missionaries tried to portray the africans mostly as savages that needed to be saved; but (since you seem to claim everyother relgion apart from christainity and islam) what about ancient egyptians and mesopotamia who buried alive a servant with the pharoahs to serve him in the afterlife; infants were sacrificed in cathaginia and phoenecia; celtic druids engaged extensively in human sacrifice, not to mention the savagery of the mayans and aztecs

well, two can play that game but you seem so dumb as fvck for me to even waste my time attempt to engage with you...you probably are suffering from some sort of mental disorder

PAGAN 9JA:


i am an a$$hole. my father is a dumb f*ck.


my mother is a lesbian.

Mudley313:
[size=16pt]Im a bastard. My mother was a pro.stitute. My father likes to have s8ex with dogs because my mother is ugly.[/size]

Mudley313:



ignoring the millions that died in the hands of christians during medieval times from the crusades to the inquisitions, i will take you straight to your gods alleged inspired writings, the bible:

Genocide:

“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

Human Sacrifice:

“And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

...and what is up with this pagan 9ja guy? i bet you're sockpuppet account of some christian on here; paganism is not like some particular religion; it is basically a broad term to depict non-abrahamic religions (shamanism, polytheism, pantheism, animism), and in the hebrew bible is comparable to a heretic or infidel...if the african traditional religious practices is what you subscribe to, at the end of the day, even though it makes more sense following the belief system of your forebears rather than a religion of foreigners who actually exploited and enslaved you, it's as delusional and irrational as any other of the major belief system; and apart from the fact that beliefs in irrational jargons usually stagnates societal progress, it has it's fair share of barbaric savagery like human sacrifices and killing of twins

Laalamed: I said the so-called christians still adhere to pagan beliefs that is why they do the killings. Killing is not part of teaching of Jesus. Regarding israel who involved in war in the Bible, they were not christians.they practice judaism. And the killings are directed at pagans only as part Judgement from God. Coming of Jesus stopped this, God is not using any nation but people who worship him in spirit and truth.

Uyi Iredia: @ PAGAN9JA: Your consistency in advocating for paganism is admirable but I'm quite surprised you cast lots of aspersion on Christianity and Islam. In my Dad's version of paganism (b4 he converted to Christianity) all religions were a way of understanding God. I sometimes wonder whether you subscribe to this belief.

Uyi Iredia: ^^^ Thanks for the info. I'll check to make sure of your talk of religious wars not happening before Christianity.

Laalamed: What is different between tribal and religion war? Killings na killings. Infact pagans started war in history of world. Check the book A SHORT HISTORY OF THE WORLD BY H.G Wells. Even with advent of christianity war continues because politicians or rulers adulterated religion spread the same adulterated beliefs. The first roman emperor to become christian was constatine . He did that to gain political influence amidst growning christian population. He neither received nor understood christian teachings. And because of political influence some corrupt christian leaders accepted him. The was birth adulterated christianity. So paganism continue in many churches today and that is why u see barbaric acts of ancient pagans among today christians. GET IT CLEAR PAGANS STARTED WAR/KILLINGS IN HISTORY.

Laalamed: Try to read H.G WELLS BOOK, WAR OF THE WORLDS. U would notice the so called religious wars were motivated by greedy e.g resouces and domination. It is tagged religion war because warring nations or tribes have different religion beliefs e.g catholics(nationalists) and protestants(unionist) in ireland, sunni and shia muslims during iran-iraq war, hindu(india) versus muslim (pakistan) . Those wars were not religious in nature. Leaders used religion to fuel them. And follow patterns of ur ancient pagan(tribal) wars. Let me tell u motives for war are the same: to dominate culturally or politically. Mind u religion is an element of culture. When persia defeated babylon, worship of persia gods were imposed on babylonians. Also when alexandria the great defeated persia, greek culture including religion was imposed on their subjects. Fulani jihadists imposed islam on many maguzawas and ruled over them. Britons took christianity to their colonies and ruled over them. The true is that we are living in pagan world in disguise so expect brutality and killings to continue modern way cos pagans are still in control. Few people are christians.

PAGAN 9JA:



I'll tell you the difference. Tribal wars were fought over resources, food, conflicts, blood feuds, etc. for SURVIVAL.

Religious wars are fought in the name of religion for FANATICISM.

We Pagans never EVER fight religious wars.

However christians,muslims are liable to fight both tribal(these days National) and religious wars.


ofcourse Pagans started war you id.iot! We were the first people on this planet. My Gods what nincompoops I have to deal with!

However we never fought wars to further our religious beliefs and to proselytize.


YEAHH WE PAGANS STARTED WAR AND KILLINGS IN HISTORY! IM PROUD TO SAY THAT WE WERE THE FIRST THAT LAID DOWN THE CODES OF MODERNS WARFARE, CHIVALRY, WEAPONRY AND GALLANTRY. BUT OVER SENSIBLE REASONS LIKE FOOD, EMPIRES GROWTH, CIVILIZATION, LAND, etc. NOT OVER RELIGION/PAGANISM.