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Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by dBard: 1:12pm On Jul 03, 2013
Symphony007: what security? Security, he has spent the better part of his governorship fighting for but is now crumbling under this idiot mbu. Since ameachi assumed office, all the criminals that reigned under odili have been destroyed. But since this man came, kidnapping has returned, gangs have started croping up again. So where is the security his police commamd is providing that requires funding?


Amechi shld STFU. we're tired of his cries n lies.
Am not s GEJ apologist, neither do I care f any of dem, but Amechi shld cut it abeg.
I live in Ph. The Security situation frankly has neva bin as wonderful as painted in d media. Kidnappings, shootings, robberies has all been ongoing even bf d CP came on board.
Wat I noticed n confimed, is that dre is a Strong Govt Control on Information in d state. tins happen n ppl neva get t hear abt it.
Question ppl shld b asking is y is it now they've fallen outta favor he suddenly realises security is bad.
He can lie t d nation but we r in d state n we know wats goijng on..
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by dBard: 1:19pm On Jul 03, 2013
ogb5:

I lived in PH both during Odili's tenure and Amaechi's tenure.

At no time was was Rivers state free of crimes.
Kidnapping, cultism, oil stealing has always been rampant in Rivers state.

Amaechi coming out to accuse the cp of incompetence because 3 corpers were kidnapp is hypocrisy. Is this the 1st time corpers have been kidnapped in Rivers state?

Like I said money used in finding the police is public funds, not Amaechi's fund. He should sit down and do his job instead of planning to play politics with the lives and security of the citizens of Rivers state

Thank you..
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by drnoel: 1:34pm On Jul 03, 2013
lakpa lakpa: Shame on GEJ once again!!

Shame on his "Bag-of-Beans" wife!!!

This useless couple are the ones behind the crisis in Rivers State. They are trying to destabilize Rivers State because of their "Ogogoro & Peppersoup" politics. They care less about the good people of Rivers state who are the final consumers of rotten good.

Shame on them!!

Shameless couple!!!

Beasts of No Nation!!!

cool cool cool

While u are at it, don't forget to say shame to Amaechi for trying to play politics with the lives of pH people.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by MiloRambaldi(m): 2:06pm On Jul 03, 2013
While Amaechi is just a confused noisemaker, State Police is way to go. But Amaechi's frends in the North would have none of it.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/northern-governors-reject-clamour-for-state-police/121018/
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by CROWE: 2:19pm On Jul 03, 2013
kutchs:
I just laughed at this comment, shows how ignorant and lacking in knowledge this owner is. To suggest Amaechi is funding the police bc the FG is not doing so is the stupidest statement ever. State govts in funding the police only complements the FG and u must understand that more three quarters of police funding comes from the FG whose responsibility as you rightly pointed out it is. If the above is true then Amaechi should just shut up and get on with his job, the police belongs to the FG and not RSG. He shouldn‘t expect the CP to report to him but to his IG in Abuja.

The Police in Nigeria is underfunded like everything else in the country, you see pictures of Fashola buying vehicles for Lagos state police, if it was well funded he wouldn't be doing that given the other things he needs money for, so maybe "our president is not" was not the right choice of words but he certainly isn't providing enough money.

Also the governor of the state has the right to complain if the police are incompetent. Nigeria is such a funny place that when insecurity goes overboard and they declare marshal law they will not try to remove the president, it is the governor they will try to remove(just like in Adamawa, Yobe and Borno) but now that the governor is complaining about police incompetence you tell him it is the presidents responsibility. I hope when it comes to blaming people for crime levels in our states, in the future you also remember that the police is the presidents baby and not the governors.

MiloRambaldi: While Amaechi is just a confused noisemaker, State Police is way to go. But Amaechi's frends in the North would have none of it.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/northern-governors-reject-clamour-for-state-police/121018/

Governors are largely powerless in this country, they are held accountable for everything that happens in their states despite having less than 20% of the power within the state so it is understandable that he is whining.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by MiloRambaldi(m): 2:29pm On Jul 03, 2013
CROWÉ:

The Police in Nigeria is underfunded like everything else in the country, you see pictures of Fashola buying vehicles for Lagos state police, if it was well funded he wouldn't be doing that given the other things he needs money for, so maybe "our president is not" was not the right choice of words but he certainly isn't providing enough money.

Also the governor of the state has the right to complain if the police are incompetent. Nigeria is such a funny place that when insecurity goes overboard and they declare marshal law they will not try to remove the president, it is the governor they will try to remove(just like in Adamawa, Yobe and Borno) but now that the governor is complaining about police incompetence you tell him it is the presidents responsibility. I hope when it comes to blaming people for crime levels in our states, in the future you also remember that the police is the presidents baby and not the governors.



Governors are largely powerless in this country, they are held accountable for everything that happens in their states despite having less than 20% of the power within the state so it is understandable that he is whining.

Governors are not powerless, they are just irresponsible, playing politics with the security of the people under them. When a governor refuses to take the responsibility for his State's security and expects someone in Abuja to secure them in Niger State, or Borno or Rivers, then u know it's the height of irresponsibility. If all the governors clamour for State Police, they'll get it. But most are against taking responsibility for their State's security.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by Symphony007: 2:32pm On Jul 03, 2013
Majority of nairalanders are jonathan bottom lickers so telling them anything contrary to the talking point of their lord and master is like pouring water on stone.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by CROWE: 2:38pm On Jul 03, 2013
MiloRambaldi:

Governors are not powerless, they are just irresponsible, playing politics with the security of the people under them. When a governor refues to take the responsibility for his State's security and expects someone in Abuja to secure them in Niger State, or Borno or Rivers, then u know it's the height of irresponsibility. If all the governors clamour for State Police, they'll get it. But most are against taking responsibility for their State's security.

Go and read the constitution again, the police do not answer to the governors, they answer to the president so how is a governor supposed to take responsibility for state security when the security agency in the state is outside of his control and only answers to somebody who can be seen as the governors boss?

GOVERNORS ARE POWERLESS, with the exclusive list, 90% of the powers in the state are given to the federal government and the other 10% the federal government can overrule the governor so tell me who is really in control of the states? But there's more, the federal government has further created local governments to distance the state governments from their people and the federal government can use and abuse the local governments however they like but when the state does it they complain and the only reason the states sometimes get away with abusing the local government is because the federal government is often too preoccupied to notice. So we have a federal government with more power in the state than the state government and local governments in the state that the state is forbidden from interfering with, how much territory is the state government actually left with? Also, do you know that the local governments have no clear responsibilities? We created local governments and all they serve to do is to create a buffer between the state governments and their peoples. In other words the State governments are powerless.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by debo25(m): 3:05pm On Jul 03, 2013
ogb5: Amaechi should stop all this cry-cry talk.

The money used in funding the police is public fund and it is not in the interest of the public for the police to be underfunded.

He should just sit down and do his job instead of playing politics with the lives and security of the citizens of his state.
IS IT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY.....WHY SHOULD A POLICE COMMISSIONER BE ATTENDING POLITICAL RALLIES....LET AMECHI TALK ABEG
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by MiloRambaldi(m): 3:22pm On Jul 03, 2013
CROWÉ:

Go and read the constitution again, the police do not answer to the governors, they answer to the president so how is a governor supposed to take responsibility for state security when the security agency in the state is outside of his control and only answers to somebody who can be seen as the governors boss?

GOVERNORS ARE POWERLESS, with the exclusive list, 90% of the powers in the state are given to the federal government and the other 10% the federal government can overrule the governor so tell me who is really in control of the states? But there's more, the federal government has further created local governments to distance the state governments from their people and the federal government can use and abuse the local governments however they like but when the state does it they complain and the only reason the states sometimes get away with abusing the local government is because the federal government is often too preoccupied to notice. So we have a federal government with more power in the state than the state government and local governments in the state that the state is forbidden from interfering with, how much territory is the state government actually left with? Also, do you know that the local governments have no clear responsibilities? We created local governments and all they serve to do is to create a buffer between the state governments and their peoples. In other words the State governments are powerless.

My point is that a lot of governors, especially those in the North don't want to take responsibility and willingly want to remain powerless - largely so they can blame the FG, which is just politics.

To be fair to Amaechi, he wants State Police and he should be allowed to have it, but his Northern friends are opposed to it.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/akpabio-state-police-is-the-rational-way-to-go/123972/
https://www.nairaland.com/941179/fashola-renews-call-state-police
http://nnnmorg./2013/06/20/rivers-rise-in-kidnapping-robbery-and-amaechis-call-for-state-police/

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/northern-governors-reject-clamour-for-state-police/121018/

Those who reject State Police because of possible abuse by Govs, should see how the FG controlling the Police doesn't stop it being abused ( by the FG ). The Governors should join the clamour for State Police - about time some powers are reduced from the centre to the States or LGs. Same should be done for roads - the "federal road" rubbish should be abolished, any road passing thru a State should be the responsibility of that State.

True federalism is way to go.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by kutchs: 4:05pm On Jul 03, 2013
Symphony007: Majority of nairalanders are jonathan bottom lickers so telling them anything contrary to the talking point of their lord and master is like pouring water on stone.
It‘s statements such as this that gives you out as disappointly irresponsible, that someone sides with and supports another makes him his bottom licker in ur warped thinking.
CTTOI, if Amaechi likes he should withdraw his funding o the police in his state, he‘s only putting the lives of his pple into more danger and when the worst happens he will be the first to cry foul. Silly overpampered scum.

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Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by CROWE: 4:07pm On Jul 03, 2013
MiloRambaldi:

My point is that a lot of governors, especially those in the North don't want to take responsibility and willingly want to remain powerless - largely so they can blame the FG, which is just politics.

To be fair to Amaechi, he wants State Police and he should be allowed to have it, but his Northern friends are opposed to it.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/akpabio-state-police-is-the-rational-way-to-go/123972/
https://www.nairaland.com/941179/fashola-renews-call-state-police
http://nnnmorg./2013/06/20/rivers-rise-in-kidnapping-robbery-and-amaechis-call-for-state-police/

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/northern-governors-reject-clamour-for-state-police/121018/

Those who reject State Police because of possible abuse by Govs, should see how the FG controlling the Police doesn't stop it being abused ( by the FG ). The Governors should join the clamour for State Police - about time some powers are reduced from the centre to the States or LGs. Same should be done for roads - the "federal road" rubbish should be abolished, any road passing thru a State should be the responsibility of that State.

True federalism is way to go.

Oh yeah yeah. That's exactly my opinion as well.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by Myself2(m): 4:21pm On Jul 03, 2013
koruji: The irresponsibility of the GEJ admin is becoming glaring everyday.
This "small" matter of using the Federal apparatus to harass political opponents has the potential to be the match that lights the great fire that consumes Nigeria. A FG that is incapable of funding the police force, also seems unable to control its personnel - even at the highest levels.

[size=14pt]The police & army must stay completely out of politics[/size]. By not moving to quickly recall the Rivers State CP after he inserted himself into the politics of the state GEJ is setting a dangerous precedent. It shows the unprofessionalism of both the police leadership and the president himself.

This precedent will eventually catch up to GEJ himself as we watch events unfold towards 2015.



In your haste to drag Mr President into Amaechi's matter,you turned your post upside down.Your cart has firmly been placed before the horse
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by mufasapapasanta(m): 5:56pm On Jul 03, 2013
grin grin ;Di de laff[quote author=God pickin]Mmmm, so that woman-man called ameachi just suddenly realised dat... how convenient, so because they refused to do his bidding now, GEJ should fund dem. like seriously this man is a dictator, wondering if he has a very large nose to snuff wat wud happen... always looking for wat to say...pls tell him roads r bad in the state, Mr monorail undecided[/quote
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by emmayoc: 9:13pm On Jul 03, 2013
ogb5: Amaechi should stop all this cry-cry talk.

The money used in funding the police is public fund and it is not in the interest of the public for the police to be underfunded.

He should just sit down and do his job instead of playing politics with the lives and security of the citizens of his state.
shut up if u have nottin reasonable to say.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by ogb5(m): 9:53pm On Jul 03, 2013
emmayo_c: shut up if u have nottin reasonable to say.
Child of a harlot, have you reached here?
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by Jmain: 10:40pm On Jul 03, 2013
Symphony007: Majority of nairalanders are jonathan bottom lickers so telling them anything contrary to the talking point of their lord and master is like pouring water on stone.

Quite a silly post . .No offense . . .
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by seanet01: 10:59pm On Jul 03, 2013
Jmain:

Quite a silly post . .No offense . . .
dem don ban u?
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by manmade(m): 11:59pm On Jul 03, 2013
lakpa lakpa: Shame on LAKPA LAKPA once again!!

Shame on his "Bag-of-Beans" wife!!!

This useless couple are the ones behind the crisis in Rivers State. They are trying to destabilize Rivers State because of their "Ogogoro & Peppersoup" politics. They care less about the good people of Rivers state who are the final consumers of rotten good.

Shame on them!!

Shameless couple!!!

Beasts of No Nation!!!

cool cool cool
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by Bensonite: 12:11am On Jul 04, 2013
Symphony007: Majority of nairalanders are jonathan bottom lickers so telling them anything contrary to the talking point of their lord and master is like pouring water on stone.
I think you are the one licking Amaechi's ass from thread to thread. What makes you feel that your opinion counts more than others. Are you more Rivers than those of us commenting. That Amaechi is a propagandist is no more news.
Re: Rivers Govt Will Stop Funding Police by koruji(m): 12:54am On Jul 04, 2013
How so Mr. Reader?
GEJ as president is in control of the police force and other govt. apparatus.
When the FG-appointed CP starts calling the governor of a state names due to politics on whose behalf is he acting?
You are right? By not immediately descending on him GEJ shows his voice of Esau and hand of Jacob.

This has happened again and again during this saga - the airplane mess and the attempt to manipulate NGF elections are all part of the show of shame by GEJ's admin. The issue I am highlighting is that it is different from using the aviation ministry, and holds grave consequences for GEJ himself, to use the police this way. In other words, the political tune the police might dance to down the line may not be GEJ's, but he will have lost the power of control by encouraging this kind of attacks on governors.


Myself2:

In your haste to drag Mr President into Amaechi's matter,you turned your post upside down.Your cart has firmly been placed before the horse

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