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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Beautyaddy: 8:21pm On Mar 12
Temi231:


Thanks my brother!!!

Agent filled the form for me.

I may get an immigration lawyer to appeal.

When you say give it a shot, do you mean re-apply?

Huh, I see you're not giving up.

I'm thinking that the appeal might be to lift the ban but not necessary to approve the visa.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Reine22: 9:44pm On Mar 12
Temi231:


Thanks my brother!!!

Agent filled the form for me.

I may get an immigration lawyer to appeal.

When you say give it a shot, do you mean re-apply?

What exactly would you be appealing? Did you or did you not misrepresent your plans to the VO? Your case is black and white.
You have been found inadmissible to Canada in accordance with paragraph 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of the IRPA. In accordance with paragraph A40(2)(a), you will remain inadmissible to Canada for a period of five years from the date of this letter or from the date a previous removal order was enforced.

You only mentioned you were going to give birth after the VO asked so you were witholding material facts. So what would the basis of your appeal be if I may ask?
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 10:05pm On Mar 12
Reine22:


What exactly would you be appealing? Did you or did you not misrepresent your plans to the VO? Your case is black and white.
You have been found inadmissible to Canada in accordance with paragraph 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of the IRPA. In accordance with paragraph A40(2)(a), you will remain inadmissible to Canada for a period of five years from the date of this letter or from the date a previous removal order was enforced.

You only mentioned you were going to give birth after the VO asked so you were witholding material facts. So what would the basis of your appeal be if I may ask?

I guess you should Google or read about what misrepresentation meant according to Canadian immigration law before putting all your fact on declaring purpose.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Reine22: 10:22pm On Mar 12
Temi231:


I guess you should Google or read about what misrepresentation meant according to Canadian immigration law before putting all your fact on declaring purpose.

LOL! You should have taken your own advice before your interview perhaps. Good luck anyway!
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by veleta: 10:23pm On Mar 12
Misrepresentation according to IRCC is withholding any material information that would have aided a VO in making decision whether to issue visa or not and in this case,the applicant misrepresented by not divulging birthing as purpose of visit.
A lot of people encouraged this in this thread by not declaring childbirth in visa application until they get to POE.This same shady attitude made US to be high handed for birthing visa applications from Nigeria.We always want short cut to everything yet we complain of how bad Nigeria is.Applications are assessed differently,that Mrs A lied and got away with it does not mean that Same will work for Mrs B.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by drafrican: 6:19am On Mar 13
Yes o it was paper application its 4 wks already...i don tire o

@ temi
Well i was going to tell you the appear in person interview sounded like trouble to me.
1) Most agents are dumb and cant reason well cos those forms ask the same question multiple times in multiple ways and alot of them use naija sence always fill ur self and walk in the mind of a VO

2) You can actually book an hotel yourself on booking.com and a flight on qatar.

3) If i will advice you,appeal using ur same old story assuming u have a copy of the form you submitted,changung ur story will only hurt you more,limit the denial to yourself exclude hubby, they are unlikely to give the visa but then you have a basis for subsequent appeals

4)pls everyone learn this UK,USA and Canada share information to each other about visa applications most people dont know this!
They usually only check when a case looks funny and that may be why they said u were denied.

5) Canada is the only embassy i know that fo all kinds of stuff like calling ur host,cross checking bank details,sending a rep to your place of work etc

6) I also think this canada application may hurt ur USA visa, to them you got an interview with usa ubecause you dint pay your bills you ran to get canada visa and then lied to canada it was for birthing ,until they called you for interview you lied ,your visa application with usa had hitches ,you got banned and now ur running back to the usa for an interview by the time you show up for ur 221g usa knows canada banned you,
you may want to skip the usa one and try and ruggle it out with canada then turn up for a USA visa in the future when the VO’s become sane ,
in btw a this drama try visiting the uk and coming back to convince them ur not running away,my 50kobo or you can risk it all and compromise future travels.
Immigration lawyer cannot help ur hubby aint there,ur kid aint there, u dont qualify for PR ,you wanna fight an embassy for refusing u to give birth in their country after”lying” to them ,my dear the lawyer will eat ur money,canadians are more ruthless than USA o,you will seem like a joke to them.

Alot of people lie about intent so dont feel bad its just that you got caught but dont loose hope God can do all things with your appeal.

7) Lets all be careful the day i applied i saw at least 15 -20 heavily pregnant women so the VO’s know......

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by OmoBendel24: 7:53am On Mar 13
Yes, reapply afresh and let’s be hopeful. Do a new application, submit the updated version of everything, bank statements, the US birthing receipts, accommodation proof, new everything in fact.

You just have to come up with a cover letter clearing up convincingly your reason for not declaring childbirthing if at all there is, the US 221g stuff, appealing not to be banned, why you definitely will exit Canada, etc. All the very best!

I however will not do without telling you “you fall our hand” as done below....

Temi231:


Thanks my brother!!!

Agent filled the form for me.

I may get an immigration lawyer to appeal.

When you say give it a shot, do you mean re-apply?

The root question....

Akorkor:
Please which one is better way to say. Tourism and medical or ordinary tourism. I am actually going going for childbirth. Please advise @omobendel,hotstepper

Justwise’s general response

justwise:

Of course visa application forms has a space to indicate purpose of traveling either tourist, business or medical and a blank space for additional information.

You chooses not to indicate it because you don't want to.

My own response

OmoBendel24:


Painful as this is to me, I really don't know how to in good conscience from recent "unprovoked" developments advise on this, don't want to go against the norm and also don't want to push the norm.... Obey your convictions if you will!

I somehow have observed it's almost game over for us (in a matter of a short while) for no concretely explainable reason. Sighs!

Justwise’s specific response to her which you agreed to

justwise:


Childbirth/medical and that is the truth.

Please lets try and clean our image as Nigerians as the rest of the world are sick and tired of our abuse of any constituted authority

Then your own response which is worth revisiting. This was deceitful, it gave an impression like one of Akorkor’s that says I too will be declaring childbirth as purpose, if not for anything but for Nigeria’s image sake. But alas, alas!

Temi231:


This is true and fact. There is a space for others which you can indicate Visit and Medical. It is well with us all. Thanks, @justwise and omobendel.

If dem go give you, dey will so why lying in the first instance. To give birth abroad should not be a do or die affairs. We should try and redeemed our image as a Nigerians everywhere.

May God help us all
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by drafrican: 8:30am On Mar 13
@ omobendel did the agent really declare others
I think she should share a copy of her form with u or just wise

Cos if agent said others then filled 2 weeks as travel and u get there and say its for birthing it means......its a lie

So its difficult to really say am just using experience from usa and not canadian eye to judge

You kinda need the whole story to advice her
,also going without your son may help also

@ temi But at this time be gentle on yourself everyone makes mistakes, try to share ur info with omobendel and justwise they maybe able to help.

Pele

Again it may help to say an agent filled but am not sure if its like usa where you should declare if an agent did ,but if you were supposed to and you dint you cant now say an agent did

Bottom line share the whole story with just wise and omobendel.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by OmoBendel24: 9:23am On Mar 13
drafrican:
@ omobendel did the agent really declare others
I think she should share a copy of her form with u or just wise

Cos if agent said others then filled 2 weeks as travel and u get there and say its for birthing it means......its a lie

So its difficult to really say am just using experience from usa and not canadian eye to judge

You kinda need the whole story to advice her
,also going without your son may help also

@ temi But at this time be gentle on yourself everyone makes mistakes, try to share ur info with omobendel and justwise they maybe able to help.

Pele

Again it may help to say an agent filled but am not sure if its like usa where you should declare if an agent did ,but if you were supposed to and you dint you cant now say an agent did

Bottom line share the whole story with just wise and omobendel.


I actually don’t believe any agent part of the story, she most likely did it all by herself (I understand the palpable fear enveloping the visa application process/environment for birthing at the time). Using an agent is almost an impossible mistake to fall for by someone with such US experience as her, coupled with nairaland experience of hers and the sensitivity of her situation at the time. Trying not to be unnecessarily adding to her wahala really, that was why I left out that part. I just believe it is not entirely over for her yet, let her give it a push to possibly get the ban off at the least....

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 9:46am On Mar 13
OmoBendel24:


I actually don’t believe any agent part of the story, she most likely did it all by herself (I understand the palpable fear enveloping the visa application process/environment for birthing at the time). Using an agent is almost an impossible mistake to fall for by someone with such US experience as her, coupled with nairaland experience of hers and the sensitivity of her situation at the time. Trying not to be unnecessarily adding to her wahala really, that was why I left out that part. I just believe it is not entirely over for her yet, let her give it a push to possibly get the ban off at the least....

Omobendel24, I actually used an agent. Not that I want pity from anyone but for everyone to learn from my experience. In fact, I can call out the agent I used and I will even dm you to discuss further.

I am an advocate of always telling the truth but when the agent convinced me that this is the way they do it I just let them did it the way they wanted to do it. But I have my learnt my lesson in a bigger way.

This is an eye-opener for everyone. Please always review your application diligently. Yesterday night, I actually did a diligent review of the application submitted for me and I noticed where they asked the question of "If you have been refused entry before to another country you should declare but the agent picked NO for me and I too did not take cognisance of it.

Well, I will re-apply again as you advised even if they won't give me but I would let them know its an honest mistake.

Guys, always try and do it yourself. All that these agents want is your money. Once they get alert, they do anyhow.

All is well!!!

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 9:47am On Mar 13
drafrican, thanks. I will take note of everything.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by drafrican: 10:08am On Mar 13
Pls apart from the 221g have you been refused before ,cos the 221g is not a refusal or maybe it best for pple to apply after concluding with USA so everything is clear.

Meanwhile i think they have also adopted the delay style knowing canada is a last resort ,cos for pips that applied in feb havent heard of anyone thats gotten their documents back

God will help us na dem buhari dey make us run up and down like thief.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 10:19am On Mar 13
drafrican:
Pls apart from the 221g have you been refused before ,cos the 221g is not a refusal or maybe it best for pple to apply after concluding with USA so everything is clear.

Meanwhile i think they have also adopted the delay style knowing canada is a last resort ,cos for pips that applied in feb havent heard of anyone thats gotten their documents back

God will help us na dem buhari dey make us run up and down like thief.


Yes oh. I have been refused before reason of not enough ties( Not Nigeria) so I re-applied in Nigeria and I was given within 2 minutes.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Eyifunmi: 2:10pm On Mar 13
Temi231:




This is an eye-opener for everyone. Please always review your application diligently. Yesterday night, I actually did a diligent review of the application submitted for me and I noticed where they asked the question of "If you have been refused entry before to another country you should declare but the agent picked NO for me and I too did not take cognisance of it.

Well, I will re-apply again as you advised even if they won't give me but I would let them know its an honest mistake.

Guys, always try and do it yourself. All that these agents want is your money. Once they get alert, they do anyhow.

All is well!!!

Hi!

I have followed your story and this is the main reason why you were banned. The Visa officer was referring to the past referral, and gave you another option at an interview, which you still denied.

Canadian visa officers are quick to give you the five year ban for misrepresentation when you answer that particular question wrongly, in most cases they give you a letter to explain/an interview in your case, before they make a decision or just sent you depending on the officer's discretion.

Also, I want you to know that this is a case of misrepresentation, it's not just as easy as you think, even the USA embassy might be aware of your ban.

I would advise you to wait your ban for five years, you can reapply, and try to explain yourself, but it would be hard, because you had a previous opportunity.

To everyone else, filling out a Canadian visa application form is different from other countries, I would advise people do it themselves and be sincere, from inception, Canadians are thorough.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 2:32pm On Mar 13
Eyifunmi:


Hi!

I have followed your story and this is the main reason why you were banned. The[b] Visa officer was referring to the past referral, and gave you another option at an interview, which you still denied.
[/b]
Canadian visa officers are quick to give you the five year ban for misrepresentation when you answer that particular question wrongly, in most cases they give you a letter to explain/an interview in your case, before they make a decision or just sent you depending on the officer's discretion.

Also, I want you to know that this is a case of misrepresentation, it's not just as easy as you think, even the USA embassy might be aware of your ban.

I would advise you to wait your ban for five years, you can reapply, and try to explain yourself, but it would be hard, because you had a previous opportunity.

To everyone else, filling out a Canadian visa application form is different from other countries, I would advise people do it themselves and be sincere, from inception, Canadians are thorough.

You are correct!!!
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by OmoBendel24: 2:56pm On Mar 13
Eyifunmi:


Hi!

I have followed your story and this is the main reason why you were banned. The Visa officer was referring to the past referral, and gave you another option at an interview, which you still denied.

Canadian visa officers are quick to give you the five year ban for misrepresentation when you answer that particular question wrongly, in most cases they give you a letter to explain/an interview in your case, before they make a decision or just sent you depending on the officer's discretion.

Also, I want you to know that this is a case of misrepresentation, it's not just as easy as you think, even the USA embassy might be aware of your ban.

I would advise you to wait your ban for five years, you can reapply, and try to explain yourself, but it would be hard, because you had a previous opportunity.

To everyone else, filling out a Canadian visa application form is different from other countries, I would advise people do it themselves and be sincere, from inception, Canadians are thorough.

Sound take....

The Canadians even will ask questions that will lay you bare now and almost forever in their database, lolz.


Purpose of visit was clearly the first ought they had against her application. Then not being truthful about her birthing plan in Canada was another aspect, let's not forget she said she was being called in for an interview with specific request made of her for her US birthing payment proofs. It turns out from the interview she misrepresented in the aspect of her purpose of visit, and then, a previous US visa refusal. I however will ask @Temi231, was this refusal recent?
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 2:58pm On Mar 13
OmoBendel24:


Sound take....

Purpose of visit was clearly the first ought they had against her application. Then not being truthful about her birthing plan in Canada was another aspect, let's not forget she said she was being called in for an interview with specific request made of her for her US birthing payment proofs. It turns out from the interview she misrepresented in the aspect of her purpose of visit, and then, a previous US visa refusal. I however will ask @Temi231, was this refusal recent?
Refusal was 2 years ago apart from 221g letter that i got recently.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by sexyjob(m): 3:46pm On Mar 13
Great thread

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nonkala: 7:49pm On Mar 13
I stl like ur spirit of sportsmanship despite all d blames of misrepresentation cast on u.. afterall u have a choice to disclose all ds or not, someone else wld not ve and u stl answered everyone’s question despite dey doubted u used an agent.

My advise appeal tru another application and make everything clear dt it was an oversight and someone helped u out.. dey gave u an option to reapply if u can present further clarification..

Wen is ur USA interview, u can apply to another country if u stl ve time or have ur baby here.. gdluck

Temi231:

Refusal was 2 years ago apart from 221g letter that i got recently.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by rcspy: 3:56am On Mar 14
1 month ago, we had our beautiful daughter in Toronto, Canada. We give all our thanks to God Almighty and to the wonderful people on this platform who shared and continue to share free information everyday. We followed most of your recommendations and everything went well.

VISA APPLICATION
We had our first baby in the US but decided to try Canada this time. I applied for a tourist visa while I was already pregnant because I actually planned to go as a tourist. My husband insisted that it was necessary to use the visa for the actual purpose for which we applied for it which was tourism.

Our application was online — we provided the usual documents and under 3 weeks, I was called to drop-off my passport.

For the purpose of tourism, I did go for 1 week in September 2018. Because I was pregnant, they thought I was coming for childbirth, I had to clarify that I had come for tourism only.

I went again in November 2018, this time, it was for the purpose of childbirth.

POINT OF ENTRY
As soon as I mentioned to the officer that I was coming for the purpose of childbirth, they asked me to move to another room. I queued briefly before being interviewed. The interviewer was mean, and unkind, despite my efforts to be as honest as possible.
When I told her I was coming for childbirth, she said:
“This is exactly what Donald Trump is trying to stop in America and when we have elections next year, our new government will also stop this”.
I showed her evidence of my payment for my accommodation and hospital.
Her main problem is that I applied as a tourist and did not disclose I was pregnant.
I replied that I had already come as a tourist in September.

She asked me about my ties to Nigeria and I mentioned that my husband and my employment are in Nigeria.

After about an hour’s wait, she asked me to come forward and said “i’m letting you in on the condition that you leave on the EXACT DATE on your return ticket and also on the condition that this is the first and last baby you have in Canada.” She stapled a slip into my passport.

ACCOMMODATION/TRANSPORTATION
My sister-in-law lives in Toronto and was happy to take me around. Unfortunately, her place was too small so when my mum came, we moved into an Airbnb. My experience with Airbnb is that it is expensive and while some hosts are good, many of them are not really honest. If you have good family/friends with enough room, please stay with them, its better.

I bought a SIM card from Chatr Mobile. You can see their data and voice plans here: https://www.chatrwireless.com/web/chatr.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=PlanBrowse
It is advisable you get one when you arrive because you will need to make calls for appointments and probably call Uber etc. Their plans are very expensive, unlike Nigeria where we pay N1000 for 1GB; To get 1GB for 1 month, you have to pay about N10,000 but it comes with unlimited calls within Canada. Please click the link for further details.
Best to walk into a store because the website does not accept Non-Canadian cards.

DELIVERY
Thanks to this platform, we found Humber River Hospital in Toronto.
They charge CAD2680 for mummy + CAD825 for baby for 24 hours/1 night. This fee applies for both vaginal and C-section. Once you check in, you can check out in the night of the next day. I checked in January 10 around 11am and checked out January 11, around 8pm.

There is only wifi on the ground floor so having a SIM card and data on your phone comes in handy at this point

We paid cash a month before baby came. You can also pay with your card but we preferred cash. We also paid CAD800 for the anaesthesia because I had a c-section. He had originally charged CAD1200 but I negotiated with him. I also paid cash and he mailed me a receipt. His name is Dr. Quint, and he is very good. Unfortunately, you can’t choose your own anaesthesist; it just depends on who’s on call on that day.

Same for pediatrician, it also depends on who is on call that day. We had Dr. Sally Kenway, who I paid cash to (CAD100) on the day after baby was born.

Now for the Dr., we found Dr. Ted Kosalka via this platform and chose him for 2 reasons:
1. He did not ask for a referral like all the other Drs. He simply asked that we bring my medical history/antenatal history from Nigeria. Which I got from the hospital I was doing my antenatal
2. His price was affordable —CAD2000 for both C-Section and Vaginal. But this is without appointments. I paid CAD120 for my appointment and CAD60 for every other appointment. Kindly note that Dr. Ted does not accept card payments. He will ONLY accept cash. So take enough cash from Nigeria. He will also accept USD if you can get a reliable conversion rate to show him.
I went at 28 weeks but saw Dr. Ted for the first time at 31 weeks. He said a lot of Nigerians call him.

5 days after baby, we went to see a pediatrician for her first wellness check. His name is Dr. Joseph Porepa. We paid $100. We were informed that subsequent checks are not really necessary if baby is healthy and well, but its your prerogative. We will commence her vaccinations in Nigeria because she has to take BCG first.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE & PASSPORT APPLICATION
On the day we checked out from the hospital, they provided all the information we need for the birth certificate application. The best place to do it is online and then they ship it to you once its ready. One common mistake people make and we also made is to forget to register the birth. Once you apply for the birth certificate, the confirmation page will prompt you to register the birth immediately. Please do both. It didn’t take take long (about 2 weeks tops). You can also phone this number if you need help: +14163258305

It costs CAD25.

Passport Application: The fastest way to do this is in the nearest Passport Canada Office. It’s faster and they tell you if you made any mistakes. Simply print the form and fill it. This is the link to download the form:
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/passport/forms/pdf/pptc155.pdf

One important thing you will need is a guarantor — this person must have a Canadian passport. Click the link and see pages 3-8 (sections A-L) for ALL the information that you need including prices (CAD57 for child and additional CAD20 if you want to pick up at their office). Processing time is standard 10 business days — it is guaranteed if you do everything right.

If the father of the child is not present in Canada, do not sign his part of the form, inform them at the Passport Canada Office and they will need the father to go to the Canadian Embassy in Nigeria to give his consent.

Nigerian Passport & Visa on Arrival

We decided to do Visa on arrival this time instead of Nigerian Passport. We got someone in immigration headquarters to help with the approval for Visa on Arrival which cost 30k. its this approval you will take to the airport for the baby.


Summary of Fees Paid.
Mummy CAD2680 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Baby CAD825 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Anaethesist (for C-section or those who opt for epidural) CAD800-CAD1200 (depending on who is on call) — cash only
Pediatrician CAD100 (also depending on who is on call)

For more information please read this entire thread from the first day, because that’s what helped us. Thank you all so much and God bless you.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 4:53am On Mar 14
Congratulations and well done. This is how feedbacks should be. There is discussion about this birth tourism nd refugee at work places...this coming federal election might change somethings



rcspy:
1 month ago, we had our beautiful daughter in Toronto, Canada. We give all our thanks to God Almighty and to the wonderful people on this platform who shared and continue to share free information everyday. We followed most of your recommendations and everything went well.

VISA APPLICATION
We had our first baby in the US but decided to try Canada this time. I applied for a tourist visa while I was already pregnant because I actually planned to go as a tourist. My husband insisted that it was necessary to use the visa for the actual purpose for which we applied for it which was tourism.

Our application was online — we provided the usual documents and under 3 weeks, I was called to drop-off my passport.

For the purpose of tourism, I did go for 1 week in September 2018. Because I was pregnant, they thought I was coming for childbirth, I had to clarify that I had come for tourism only.

I went again in November 2018, this time, it was for the purpose of childbirth.

POINT OF ENTRY
As soon as I mentioned to the officer that I was coming for the purpose of childbirth, they asked me to move to another room. I queued briefly before being interviewed. The interviewer was mean, and unkind, despite my efforts to be as honest as possible.
When I told her I was coming for childbirth, she said:
“This is exactly what Donald Trump is trying to stop in America and when we have elections next year, our new government will also stop this”.
I showed her evidence of my payment for my accommodation and hospital.
Her main problem is that I applied as a tourist and did not disclose I was pregnant.
I replied that I had already come as a tourist in September.

She asked me about my ties to Nigeria and I mentioned that my husband and my employment are in Nigeria.

After about an hour’s wait, she asked me to come forward and said “i’m letting you in on the condition that you leave on the EXACT DATE on your return ticket and also on the condition that this is the first and last baby you have in Canada.” She stapled a slip into my passport.

ACCOMMODATION/TRANSPORTATION
My sister-in-law lives in Toronto and was happy to take me around. Unfortunately, her place was too small so when my mum came, we moved into an Airbnb. My experience with Airbnb is that it is expensive and while some hosts are good, many of them are not really honest. If you have good family/friends with enough room, please stay with them, its better.

I bought a SIM card from Chatr Mobile. You can see their data and voice plans here: https://www.chatrwireless.com/web/chatr.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=PlanBrowse
It is advisable you get one when you arrive because you will need to make calls for appointments and probably call Uber etc. Their plans are very expensive, unlike Nigeria where we pay N1000 for 1GB; To get 1GB for 1 month, you have to pay about N10,000 but it comes with unlimited calls within Canada. Please click the link for further details.
Best to walk into a store because the website does not accept Non-Canadian cards.

DELIVERY
Thanks to this platform, we found Humber River Hospital in Toronto.
They charge CAD2680 for mummy + CAD825 for baby for 24 hours/1 night. This fee applies for both vaginal and C-section. Once you check in, you can check out in the night of the next day. I checked in January 10 around 11am and checked out January 11, around 8pm.

There is only wifi on the ground floor so having a SIM card and data on your phone comes in handy at this point

We paid cash a month before baby came. You can also pay with your card but we preferred cash. We also paid CAD800 for the anaesthesia because I had a c-section. He had originally charged CAD1200 but I negotiated with him. I also paid cash and he mailed me a receipt. His name is Dr. Quint, and he is very good. Unfortunately, you can’t choose your own anaesthesist; it just depends on who’s on call on that day.

Same for pediatrician, it also depends on who is on call that day. We had Dr. Sally Kenway, who I paid cash to (CAD100) on the day after baby was born.

Now for the Dr., we found Dr. Ted Kosalka via this platform and chose him for 2 reasons:
1. He did not ask for a referral like all the other Drs. He simply asked that we bring my medical history/antenatal history from Nigeria. Which I got from the hospital I was doing my antenatal
2. His price was affordable —CAD2000 for both C-Section and Vaginal. But this is without appointments. I paid CAD120 for my appointment and CAD60 for every other appointment. Kindly note that Dr. Ted does not accept card payments. He will ONLY accept cash. So take enough cash from Nigeria. He will also accept USD if you can get a reliable conversion rate to show him.
I went at 28 weeks but saw Dr. Ted for the first time at 31 weeks. He said a lot of Nigerians call him.

5 days after baby, we went to see a pediatrician for her first wellness check. His name is Dr. Joseph Porepa. We paid $100. We were informed that subsequent checks are not really necessary if baby is healthy and well, but its your prerogative. We will commence her vaccinations in Nigeria because she has to take BCG first.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE & PASSPORT APPLICATION
On the day we checked out from the hospital, they provided all the information we need for the birth certificate application. The best place to do it is online and then they ship it to you once its ready. One common mistake people make and we also made is to forget to register the birth. Once you apply for the birth certificate, the confirmation page will prompt you to register the birth immediately. Please do both. It didn’t take take long (about 2 weeks tops). You can also phone this number if you need help: +14163258305

It costs CAD25.

Passport Application: The fastest way to do this is in the nearest Passport Canada Office. It’s faster and they tell you if you made any mistakes. Simply print the form and fill it. This is the link to download the form:
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/passport/forms/pdf/pptc155.pdf

One important thing you will need is a guarantor — this person must have a Canadian passport. Click the link and see pages 3-8 (sections A-L) for ALL the information that you need including prices (CAD57 for child and additional CAD20 if you want to pick up at their office). Processing time is standard 10 business days — it is guaranteed if you do everything right.

If the father of the child is not present in Canada, do not sign his part of the form, inform them at the Passport Canada Office and they will need the father to go to the Canadian Embassy in Nigeria to give his consent.

Nigerian Passport & Visa on Arrival

We decided to do Visa on arrival this time instead of Nigerian Passport.


Summary of Fees Paid.
Mummy CAD2680 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Baby CAD825 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Anaethesist (for C-section or those who opt for epidural) CAD800-CAD1200 (depending on who is on call) — cash only
Pediatrician CAD100 (also depending on who is on call) — cash only
Dr Ted Kosalka CAD2000 — cash only
Dr’s appointments CAD120 for1st appointment; CAD60 for all other appointments — cash only

Contact Information.
Humber River Hospital (ask for the finance department but they close by 4pm: +14162121000
Dr. Ted Kosalka (Open from 1pm on Mon, 10-6 on Tues & Thur, closed Wed & Fri) +14162417988
Dr. Joseph Porepa +14167453411
Birth Certificate (Service Ontario (9am-4pm) +14163258305

For more information please read this entire thread from the first day, because that’s what helped us. Thank you all so much and God bless you.


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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 9:30am On Mar 14
Nonkala:
I stl like ur spirit of sportsmanship despite all d blames of misrepresentation cast on u.. afterall u have a choice to disclose all ds or not, someone else wld not ve and u stl answered everyone’s question despite dey doubted u used an agent.

My advise appeal tru another application and make everything clear dt it was an oversight and someone helped u out.. dey gave u an option to reapply if u can present further clarification..

Wen is ur USA interview, u can apply to another country if u stl ve time or have ur baby here.. gdluck

Thank you nonkala. I am already using the service of an immigration lawyer to appeal and also re-apply myself. I pray all work out well. My interview is coming up soon for USA. grin grin

In all, Glory to God

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by sudemba: 2:40pm On Mar 14
Hello dearies.please I need your help here. I want to apply for Canadian visa for visit/tourism. Am not pregnant.I have 3kids, i gave birth to my twin boys in 2016 in US. I want to go with them to canada. But my 1st son will be in Nigeria with the dad. My worry is,i want to also include my sis in law as my family in my application because I want her to travel with Me to help me with the twins. Do they consider sis in law as family? She has no travel history and no statement of account that's why I want to attach her to my application. She's 25yrs. Will this be possible? Thank you
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dubajek: 2:53pm On Mar 14
Please how do I contact the embassy. having the same issue here.
Temi231:


Omobendel24, I actually used an agent. Not that I want pity from anyone but for everyone to learn from my experience. In fact, I can call out the agent I used and I will even dm you to discuss further.

I am an advocate of always telling the truth but when the agent convinced me that this is the way they do it I just let them did it the way they wanted to do it. But I have my learnt my lesson in a bigger way.

This is an eye-opener for everyone. Please always review your application diligently. Yesterday night, I actually did a diligent review of the application submitted for me and I noticed where they asked the question of "If you have been refused entry before to another country you should declare but the agent picked NO for me and I too did not take cognisance of it.

Well, I will re-apply again as you advised even if they won't give me but I would let them know its an honest mistake.

Guys, always try and do it yourself. All that these agents want is your money. Once they get alert, they do anyhow.

All is well!!!
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 3:01pm On Mar 14
dubajek:


Please how do I contact the embassy. having the same issue here.
I guess you don't have to contact the embassy. Get a lawyer to do an appeal for your application. Then re-apply and state your purpose this time around then wait on the lord.
#Thisiswhatiamdoing
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dubajek: 3:12pm On Mar 14
I applied last month. my application is still in process, but i noticed that the agent failed to indicate my previous denial. I want to quickly alert them since they are stilll processing it
Thanks


Temi231:

I guess you don't have to contact the embassy. Get a lawyer to do an appeal for your application. Then re-apply and state your purpose this time around then wait on the lord.
#Thisiswhatiamdoing
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 3:26pm On Mar 14
Can you post your timeline from visa application to Poe?
sexyjob:
Hello everyone. We arrived Canada some days ago. PoE was breeze. We declared vacation & childbirth at entry, it was our 2nd visit though. We visited earlier for tourism.

Thank you all for the extended knowledge sharing and support in here.

Thank you Hotstepper for all the support and arrangements. You're the best!
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dubajek: 3:28pm On Mar 14
please can someone assist


dubajek:
I applied last month. my application is still in process, but i noticed that the agent failed to indicate my previous denial. I want to quickly alert them since they are stilll processing it
Thanks


Re: Giving Birth In Canada by aye88: 3:42pm On Mar 14
rcspy:
1 month ago, we had our beautiful daughter in Toronto, Canada. We give all our thanks to God Almighty and to the wonderful people on this platform who shared and continue to share free information everyday. We followed most of your recommendations and everything went well.

VISA APPLICATION
We had our first baby in the US but decided to try Canada this time. I applied for a tourist visa while I was already pregnant because I actually planned to go as a tourist. My husband insisted that it was necessary to use the visa for the actual purpose for which we applied for it which was tourism.

Our application was online — we provided the usual documents and under 3 weeks, I was called to drop-off my passport.

For the purpose of tourism, I did go for 1 week in September 2018. Because I was pregnant, they thought I was coming for childbirth, I had to clarify that I had come for tourism only.

I went again in November 2018, this time, it was for the purpose of childbirth.

POINT OF ENTRY
As soon as I mentioned to the officer that I was coming for the purpose of childbirth, they asked me to move to another room. I queued briefly before being interviewed. The interviewer was mean, and unkind, despite my efforts to be as honest as possible.
When I told her I was coming for childbirth, she said:
“This is exactly what Donald Trump is trying to stop in America and when we have elections next year, our new government will also stop this”.
I showed her evidence of my payment for my accommodation and hospital.
Her main problem is that I applied as a tourist and did not disclose I was pregnant.
I replied that I had already come as a tourist in September.

She asked me about my ties to Nigeria and I mentioned that my husband and my employment are in Nigeria.

After about an hour’s wait, she asked me to come forward and said “i’m letting you in on the condition that you leave on the EXACT DATE on your return ticket and also on the condition that this is the first and last baby you have in Canada.” She stapled a slip into my passport.

ACCOMMODATION/TRANSPORTATION
My sister-in-law lives in Toronto and was happy to take me around. Unfortunately, her place was too small so when my mum came, we moved into an Airbnb. My experience with Airbnb is that it is expensive and while some hosts are good, many of them are not really honest. If you have good family/friends with enough room, please stay with them, its better.

I bought a SIM card from Chatr Mobile. You can see their data and voice plans here: https://www.chatrwireless.com/web/chatr.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=PlanBrowse
It is advisable you get one when you arrive because you will need to make calls for appointments and probably call Uber etc. Their plans are very expensive, unlike Nigeria where we pay N1000 for 1GB; To get 1GB for 1 month, you have to pay about N10,000 but it comes with unlimited calls within Canada. Please click the link for further details.
Best to walk into a store because the website does not accept Non-Canadian cards.

DELIVERY
Thanks to this platform, we found Humber River Hospital in Toronto.
They charge CAD2680 for mummy + CAD825 for baby for 24 hours/1 night. This fee applies for both vaginal and C-section. Once you check in, you can check out in the night of the next day. I checked in January 10 around 11am and checked out January 11, around 8pm.

There is only wifi on the ground floor so having a SIM card and data on your phone comes in handy at this point

We paid cash a month before baby came. You can also pay with your card but we preferred cash. We also paid CAD800 for the anaesthesia because I had a c-section. He had originally charged CAD1200 but I negotiated with him. I also paid cash and he mailed me a receipt. His name is Dr. Quint, and he is very good. Unfortunately, you can’t choose your own anaesthesist; it just depends on who’s on call on that day.

Same for pediatrician, it also depends on who is on call that day. We had Dr. Sally Kenway, who I paid cash to (CAD100) on the day after baby was born.

Now for the Dr., we found Dr. Ted Kosalka via this platform and chose him for 2 reasons:
1. He did not ask for a referral like all the other Drs. He simply asked that we bring my medical history/antenatal history from Nigeria. Which I got from the hospital I was doing my antenatal
2. His price was affordable —CAD2000 for both C-Section and Vaginal. But this is without appointments. I paid CAD120 for my appointment and CAD60 for every other appointment. Kindly note that Dr. Ted does not accept card payments. He will ONLY accept cash. So take enough cash from Nigeria. He will also accept USD if you can get a reliable conversion rate to show him.
I went at 28 weeks but saw Dr. Ted for the first time at 31 weeks. He said a lot of Nigerians call him.

5 days after baby, we went to see a pediatrician for her first wellness check. His name is Dr. Joseph Porepa. We paid $100. We were informed that subsequent checks are not really necessary if baby is healthy and well, but its your prerogative. We will commence her vaccinations in Nigeria because she has to take BCG first.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE & PASSPORT APPLICATION
On the day we checked out from the hospital, they provided all the information we need for the birth certificate application. The best place to do it is online and then they ship it to you once its ready. One common mistake people make and we also made is to forget to register the birth. Once you apply for the birth certificate, the confirmation page will prompt you to register the birth immediately. Please do both. It didn’t take take long (about 2 weeks tops). You can also phone this number if you need help: +14163258305

It costs CAD25.

Passport Application: The fastest way to do this is in the nearest Passport Canada Office. It’s faster and they tell you if you made any mistakes. Simply print the form and fill it. This is the link to download the form:
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/passport/forms/pdf/pptc155.pdf

One important thing you will need is a guarantor — this person must have a Canadian passport. Click the link and see pages 3-8 (sections A-L) for ALL the information that you need including prices (CAD57 for child and additional CAD20 if you want to pick up at their office). Processing time is standard 10 business days — it is guaranteed if you do everything right.

If the father of the child is not present in Canada, do not sign his part of the form, inform them at the Passport Canada Office and they will need the father to go to the Canadian Embassy in Nigeria to give his consent.

Nigerian Passport & Visa on Arrival

We decided to do Visa on arrival this time instead of Nigerian Passport. We got someone in immigration headquarters to help with the approval for Visa on Arrival which cost 30k. its this approval you will take to the airport for the baby. If you need help with this, please send an email to rcspy14@gmail.com.


Summary of Fees Paid.
Mummy CAD2680 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Baby CAD825 — cash or card (we used GTB Naira Card)
Anaethesist (for C-section or those who opt for epidural) CAD800-CAD1200 (depending on who is on call) — cash only
Pediatrician CAD100 (also depending on who is on call) — cash only
Dr Ted Kosalka CAD2000 — cash only
Dr’s appointments CAD120 for1st appointment; CAD60 for all other appointments — cash only



For more information please read this entire thread from the first day, because that’s what helped us. Thank you all so much and God bless you.




Congratulations. Thanks you for a detailed feedback. Please what was the hospital experience like and Dr ted too?.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Temi231(f): 4:10pm On Mar 14
dubajek:
I applied last month. my application is still in process, but i noticed that the agent failed to indicate my previous denial. I want to quickly alert them since they are stilll processing it
Thanks



There is a way to notify them but I can't get my head around it now. @omobendel24 @justwise kindly assist.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by aye88: 10:17pm On Mar 14
dubajek:
please can someone assist




Read the page before this. Someone dropped a link how you can reach them. Check @nonkala post

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