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Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Allocsoluwatosi(m): 5:05pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Don't forget that voltage is a workdone in bringing a charge from infinity to dat poin. But current is the flow of charge in a conductor per unit time, and also it is current that is dissipitated as heat energy wen encounter a body of reasonable amount of resistance I.e the man body. To cap it all a current as small as 0.02A can cause electrocution to death. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ajaolu(m): 5:11pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ZACHIE: Electrocuted to death....see grammar. being electrocuted may refer to being injurd or killed by the passage of electricity through the body of someone, so that expression is still correct because it stated what happened precisely, i.e. not injured, but actually got killed. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ajaolu(m): 5:12pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by supaeagles(m): 5:13pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ajaolu: how did you calculate it to be 415, i think it should be 240 x 2 = 480Bros, great question but electrical engineering is crazy oh. You cannot simply multiply the two numerical values for voltages across two lines to determine voltage across the lines. You have consider it as a voltage difference. So even though the two lines are at the same potential (240 volts) they are at different phases (120 degrees diff). So the voltage difference across two live lines is not 240-240 it is instead square root (3) x 240 (voltage of one line to ground - which is zero volts) = 1.73*240 = 415v source: 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Allocsoluwatosi(m): 5:15pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
supaeagles: oga no oh, static electricity case from a van der graff is different I believe...., though the static voltage is high, it dissipates away rapidly on contact because there isn't sufficient charge. Whereas the high voltage in electricity lines can kill because that voltage level is always maintained (by the generation process) on human contactDon't forget that voltage is a workdone in bringing a charge from infinity to dat poin. But current is the flow of charge in a conductor per unit time, and also it is current that is dissipitated as heat energy wen encounter a body of reasonable amount of resistance I.e the man body. To cap it all a current as small as 0.02A can cause electrocution to death. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Even though what the dead man did was wrong, I still blame PHCN for the whole thing! Reason? If on a given street you can clearly see your neigbhour enjoying electricity while you are in darkness just because out of the three phases available only one is having a supply, what do you do, complain to PHCN? |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 5:24pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Bleep U: chai my brother see how with a polished english and tone cald ur fellow human being a penis.sum words are just to vulgar to use on anoda.BiKo Maka mgbe ozo |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ajaolu(m): 5:26pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
supaeagles: Bros, great question but electrical engineering is crazy oh. You cannot simply multiply the two numerical values for voltages across two lines to determine voltage across the lines. You have consider it as a voltage difference. So even though the two lines are at the same potential (240 volts) they are at different phases (120 degrees diff). So the voltage difference across two live lines is not 240-240 it is instead square root (3) x 240 (voltage of one line to ground - which is zero volts) = 1.73*240 = 415v thanks so much for the prompt answer, i am so much passionate about that field (plus electronics) but anyway, i am still doing good in surveying and geoinformatics. I will appreciate it if i could get some educational materials on the elementary foundations of elect. Engr. 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by supaeagles(m): 5:26pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Allocsoluwatosi: Don't forget that voltage is a workdone in bringing a charge from infinity to dat poin. But current is the flow of charge in a conductor per unit time, and also it is current that is dissipitated as heat energy wen encounter a body of reasonable amount of resistance I.e the man body. To cap it all a current as small as 0.02A can cause electrocution to death.Good point but you cannot look at current in isolation. You also have to consider voltage - or more accurately voltage difference or potential difference. A voltage difference is what gives rise to current flow in the first place else you will not have current flow to begin with. So when you say that 0.02Amps can kill a person that is not necessarily accurate. At what voltage is that current being generated should be the question? As an example, your mobile phone charger even outputs higher current about 0.5 to 1 amps yet that does not kill or even shock you on contact because it is at only only about 5 volts maximum. Transmission lines on the other hand have very high voltages (11 kilo volts and much higher) and that is done by design to ensure low energy losses on the transmission path :- the conductor lines. Energy loss is = square of current * resistance linky. Hence, current is made very small (via transformers) to reduce these losses. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Oya make I do small I.T.K . I think the headline should read: "Man Electrocuted" (kpom). Electrocution na say you don die finish be that. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by supaeagles(m): 5:29pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ajaolu: thanks so much for the prompt answer, i am so much passionate about that field (plus electronics) but anyway, i am still doing good in surveying and geoinformatics. I will appreciate it if i could get some educational materials on the elementary foundations of elect. Engr.surely bro, I will surely gather some good fundamental EE stuff and hook you up by PMing it to you. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Remii(m): 5:33pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
[/b][b][b][/b] ajaolu: take correction my guy, no need to try twist Electrocution is death caused by electric shock, either accidental or deliberate. The word is derived from "electro" and "execution", but it is also used for accidental death. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Brightwesley: 5:51pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Wish it had happened in owerri, i would hav loved it. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Zonacom(m): 6:03pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Don Demu: Wetin igbo man no fit do cos of money? Na d N200 wey this man go give electrician don go make am die so. RIP4 letters; F.O.O.L 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Brightwesley: Wish it had happened in owerri, i would hav loved it.It happened in Jos but it was still an igbo man that got killed. Somebody shout Halleluyah |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by zibi2(m): 6:38pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
R.I.P a very sad one. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Allocsoluwatosi(m): 6:40pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
supaeagles: Good point but you cannot look at current in isolation. You also have to consider voltage - or more accurately voltage difference or potential difference. A voltage difference is what gives rise to current flow in the first place else you will not have current flow to begin with. So when you say that 0.02Amps can kill a person that is not necessarily accurate. At what voltage is that current being generated should be the question? As an example, your mobile phone charger even outputs higher current about 0.5 to 1 amps yet that does not kill or even shock you on contact because it is at only only about 5 volts maximum. Transmission lines on the other hand have very high voltages (11 kilo volts and much higher) and that is done by design to ensure low energy losses on the transmission path :- the conductor lines. Energy loss is = square of current * resistance linky. Hence, current is made very small (via transformers) to reduce these losses.nice, current as a result of voltage difference 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Ikechukwuiyke: 6:51pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Rip |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Phillfree(m): 6:55pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Rest In Peace bro |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ajaolu: @M. Àja Electrocution is death caused by Electric shock, either accidental or deliberate |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Don Demu: Wetin igbo man no fit do cos of money? Na d N200 wey this man go give electrician don go make am die so. RIPwetin ur papa no fit do for money?,na because e no wan pay bride price he thief ur mama come impr,egnate her she come born mumu like u 2 Likes |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by MissFame(f): 8:23pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
[quote author=Don Demu]Wetin igbo man no fit do cos of money? Na d N200 wey this man go give electrician don go make am die so. RIP. wetin bring tribe 4 dis matter? Stop dat xter wey u dey do abeg, if na u die n person com talk lyk so, u go happy 4 wia u dey? Rest in d Lord's bosom. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
igboezue: wetin ur papa no fit do for money?,na because e no wan pay bride price he thief ur mama come impr,egnate her she come born mumu like uFrom their handle you shall know them. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Onyi138: 9:17pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
R.I.P bro |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by oxygen25: 9:37pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Chamber10:Don't mind the cretin, na dem dey cause online war between tribes, these kids shouldn't be allowed near a computer sef come to talk about internet. Nonsense! 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ShirelleBaby: 10:12pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
supaeagles: Bros, great question but electrical engineering is crazy oh. You cannot simply multiply the two numerical values for voltages across two lines to determine voltage across the lines. You have consider it as a voltage difference. So even though the two lines are at the same potential (240 volts) they are at different phases (120 degrees diff). So the voltage difference across two live lines is not 240-240 it is instead square root (3) x 240 (voltage of one line to ground - which is zero volts) = 1.73*240 = 415v i think say i know maths,till i read this 1:|...1 of the reasons i ran from science class...:> 1 Like |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by PStacks(m): 10:19pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Ehyaa! So sad.. This Power issues in Nigeria.. We don't only suffer power outage but people trying to swap lines nao die... But wait oooo! The guy na NEPA or PHCN staff? Wetin hin dey find ontop pole.. Rest Easy man! |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Nobody: 12:05am On Jul 25, 2013 |
ajaolu: The voltage between 2 phases in a 240V supply is 415V. In a three-phase set-up, the phases are 120 degrees apart. It's not calculated by multiplying two or more phases as you've done. RIP to the deceased brother, another victim of PHCN's poor service. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by adeboolusegun(m): 1:50am On Jul 25, 2013 |
Waooo... Wot a breaking news. Anyway may gentle and rugged soul rest in peace. Haaaaa I fear electricity die most especially when ma hot plate in Awo Hall OaU spark...na touch to die ooo. RIP!!! |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by Eastcoast33(m): 2:35am On Jul 25, 2013 |
And I spoke witth d man on Monday he's my family electrician....m Allah I can't believ d whole thing. |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ajaolu(m): 2:52am On Jul 25, 2013 |
Remii: [/b][b][b][/b] okay, I have no interest in much of controversies but you can check the Oxford Dictionary (one of the major dictionaries in the world) here: http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/electrocute |
Re: Man Electrocuted To Death In Jos by ajaolu(m): 3:08am On Jul 25, 2013 |
samnazarit: okay bro, maybe you should check the Oxford Dictionary (one of the major dictionaries in the world) here: http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/electrocute |
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