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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by ruffhandu: 9:46pm On Jul 27, 2013
scipher: FG done settle you abi lipsrsealed

Pally, shiishi I no see. Am just being honest.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jul 27, 2013
chidindufrank: Nwanne ikuku ndu ebe obuna ma obu/owu ebe obula igara/jere. Ighotago? Up GEJ security don tight so tey I no deuy lock my dor sleep for night
I no understand. Correct it na so I can see the correction.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 10:46pm On Jul 27, 2013
PapaBrowne:

About crushing them on time, hmmm I wish you knew how the Nigerian military has been underinvested or misinvested over the years. At the time Jonathan came into power, Nigeria had little or no capacity in handling terrorism. Intelligence gathering capabilities were inept. It takes time to purchase technologies and build capabilities. There is no way the military would have been stupid enough at the time to engage in a battle they couldn't have won. Jonathan has super equipped the miltary and its obvious even in the kind of gear they put on and the ammunition they carry. But more importantly, the capacity to gather intelligence has been built and would serve Nigeria for ages to come.


Now, the most interesting thing is this: When Boko Haram is finally over, Nigeria will be the first country to have defeated terrorism. The Americans would have a lot to learn from us. They are definitely taking notes on the "Civilain JTF" strategy. In fact the world would have a lot to learn from the Nigerian strategy given how we have dealt both with the Islamic Insurgency and the Niger Delta Militancy.
among the most intelligent posts i've seen on nairaland.

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Demdem(m): 6:48am On Jul 28, 2013
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PapaBrowne:

About crushing them on time, hmmm I wish you knew how the Nigerian military has been underinvested or misinvested over the years. At the time Jonathan came into power, Nigeria had little or no capacity in handling terrorism. Intelligence gathering capabilities were inept. It takes time to purchase technologies and build capabilities. There is no way the military would have been stupid enough at the time to engage in a battle they couldn't have won. Jonathan has super equipped the miltary and its obvious even in the kind of gear they put on and the ammunition they carry. But more importantly, the capacity to gather intelligence has been built and would serve Nigeria for ages to come.


Now, the most interesting thing is this: When Boko Haram is finally over, Nigeria will be the first country to have defeated terrorism. The Americans would have a lot to learn from us. They are definitely taking notes on the "Civilain JTF" strategy. In fact the world would have a lot to learn from the Nigerian strategy given how we have dealt both with the Islamic Insurgency and the Niger Delta Militancy.
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Complete Crap. U mean if the military had gone in on time they wouldn't have defeated those miscreants thereby saving innocent lives? Are those miscreants themselves trained? Abegi come up with another spin, this is far below ur intelligence.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Demdem(m): 6:51am On Jul 28, 2013
adino:

It is not partly because of N.O.I, it is fully because of her. By the way stop calling my Aunty by name, you should have some respect for Nigeria's first female Prime Minister,L.O.L.

Are u for real? That frog eye liar whose lies during the subsidy palaver am yet to recover from. What a good Aunty u have.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Demdem(m): 6:53am On Jul 28, 2013
adino:

demdem the retardeen.

Adino the fooool, trash the contents of the post u qouted.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:08am On Jul 28, 2013
take dat: [b]Well, better late than never. If the FG had acted on time, it could have saved thousands of lives. [/b]Kudos to the JTF and the moderates(Civilian JTF) for helping in reversing the tide of militancy. Terrorism and extremism cannot be eradicated comprehensively unless people's living conditions are improved. The government, for its part, should strive for creating economic opportunities for the people and make more efforts to reform the Al-Majiri education. Extremist Islamism could not be eradicated as an idea but contained.

Spots on
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:08am On Jul 28, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
Is Retardeen Jonathan your father's name? Hmmm! You keep mentioning this name all the time so it is safe to assume the person must be very close to you. But the name does not appear like a Nigerian name.

For those in denial like u, the kai-kai infected brain in charge of Aso rock currently is Retardeen Jonathan. He has alaways been known to us like that since his miserable days in Bayelsa. It has nothing to do with ur father. cool
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:09am On Jul 28, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
As for the other issues you raised in your post, are you suggesting that the president should have acted thoughtlessly like OBJ, who lost 1,000 men in one hour during the Nigeria civil war? Would you have prefered a repetition of the community cleansing which OBJ authorized in Odi and Zaki Ibiam?

Are u claiming that the same innocent lives killed during Zaki Ibiam or ODi was avoided during this military operation in Borno or what? This made no sense


Even when the president declared the state of emergency, although it was generally accepted, most people (including yours sincerely)

Shameless Liar. Prove to the world that u arent one by proving otherwise. demdem's position has always been clear from day 1

were not sure how that would end Boko Haram. Dont forget that the ACN and its leader, Tinubu, condemned the declaration of SOE and stated clearly that the SOE will not achieve any result.


So because that as ACN position, it automatically mean Demdem's position is the same. i think u are lost, try again

[s]For me, the turning point was when the people of Borno completely rejected Boko Haram and fought back with the civillian JTF. I celebrated the civillian JTF on this platform because without community support, no military might can defeat any insurgency. And the civillian JTF emerged (or we started hearing about them) after the govt released some detained women and children Boko Haram suspects. That was a trust building strategy that worked well.

I think a combination of the SOE, release of detained women and children, activities of the civillian JTF and mediation of the Boko Haram amnesty committee all added up to the progress attained so far. It is only a very myopic person that will attribute the success so far to the military action alone[/s]

Crap, u are just holding on straws. the truth is if the military had gone in on time instead of the delay from the Retardeen, hundreds of innocent lives that were killed by those miscreants ouldnt have happened. he delayed all because he was looking at the political ramifications and not because of what is ideal. It came late however better late than never.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:09am On Jul 28, 2013
Demdem: [s][/s]

Complete Crap. U mean if the military had gone in on time they wouldn't have defeated those miscreants thereby saving innocent lives? Are those miscreants themselves trained? Abegi come up with another spin, this is far below ur intelligence.
yes, the miscreants are highly trained, by pakistani weapon and terror specialists even
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:11am On Jul 28, 2013
Chibuebem: yes, the miscreants are highly trained, by pakistani weapon specialists

prove it? those arrested so far and killed are jobless religious fanatics. because thats what those liars in govt told us doesnt suggest its true. they also told us shepopotamus wasnt sick remember.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:13am On Jul 28, 2013
deemdeem:

prove it? those arrested so far and killed are jobless religious fanatics
there was an article about it during the war at mali. Google it and check. I cant now.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by PapaBrowne(m): 8:14am On Jul 28, 2013
Demdem: [s][/s]

Complete Crap. U mean if the military had gone in on time they wouldn't have defeated those miscreants thereby saving innocent lives? Are those miscreants themselves trained? Abegi come up with another spin, this is far below ur intelligence.

I have only one example to give.

America: The world's strongest Army. The meanest intelligence gathering capabilities. Most technologically advanced country. 1.5 Million active military personnel.
10 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. $1 Trillion later. Bombs are still going off till this day.

Nigeria: An army with zero training on insurgency and counter terrorism pre 2010. Very weak intelligence gathering abilities. Outdated technology dating back to the 70s. 80,000 active military personel.
3 months in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa. A few bellion dollars later. Bombs have ceased.


Surely, the Americans have something to learn from us.

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:15am On Jul 28, 2013
Chibuebem: there was an article about it during the war at mali. Google it and check. I cant now.

written by who? waiting for it though. by the way, we are talking about borno, not mali. its a different ball game here
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:17am On Jul 28, 2013
PapaBrowne:

I have only one example to give.

America: The world's strongest Army. The meanest intelligence gathering capabilities. Most technologically advanced country. 1.5 Million active military personnel.
10 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. $1 Trillion later. Bombs are still going off till this day.

Nigeria: An army with zero training on insurgency and counter terrorism pre 2010. Very weak intelligence gathering abilities. Outdated technology dating back to the 70s. 80,000 active military personel.
3 months in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa. A few bellion dollars later. Bombs have ceased.


Surely, the Americans have something to learn from us.

ur example has no relevance to the issue raised. whether america has a billion things to learn or not is none of my business.
the military went in late and innocent lives (Nigerians) died for it. case closed
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by PapaBrowne(m): 8:32am On Jul 28, 2013
deemdeem:

ur example has no relevance to the issue raised. whether america has a billion things to learn or not is none of my business.
the military went in late and innocent lives died for it. case closed

Thats the exact reason why you should ask OBJ, Abdulsalami, Abacha, Babngida and Buhari why they failed to invest in our military capabilities. Instead they spent money building special forces that would protect them in the event of a coup.
Yar Adua's military investments were centred on militancy in the Niger Delta. Jonathan has taken it further. He has super equipped the military to the extent that we can take on anything be it coups, terrorists, militants, or foreign invasion and better still peace keeping and community building.

Asking why he didn't use force quickly is lame. Didn't Yar Adua use force quickly. Is that not what resulted in the new and more virulent Boko Harm? Didn't OBJ use force quickly in Odi. Is that not one of the remote causes of the ND Militancy?

Strategy demands that you engage forcefully when your capabilities are on point. Imagine a doctor who has no surgical capabilities to transplant a heart, but decides to go ahead with his basic knowledge of a regular operation despite the fact that he can risk the option of acquiring the capabilities even if it would take some time. What would you have to say to that doctor?

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 8:52am On Jul 28, 2013
PapaBrowne:

Asking why he didn't use force quickly is lame. Didn't Yar Adua use force quickly. Is that not what resulted in the new and more virulent Boko Harm?

this opinion is daft at best. Yaradua used force however due to his health concerns, it wasnt sustained. Retardeen left it aloof. they were left to regrouped and restrategize before the became something else. that is what led to what they are today. How come we u dont hear of bombs in iraq during Saddam time? He used force to curtail those with such tendencies. Now that he is no more, democracy sets in, its a different ball game. the same goes to Libya. u dont treat miscreants with kid gloves. The military has always been funded by previous govts, they take the lion share of our budget each and every year so ur argument contrary to that is crap. The Nigerian Military has alays been ready to crush those fools. they have always been rats. dont portray them to be what they are not.

Didn't OBJ use force quickly in Odi. Is that not one of the remote causes of the ND Militancy?

thank goodness u said one of. well, its the least of the causes and insignificant. The ND militancy was caused by the selfishness and greediness of a few that ought to be crushed and not the degradation of the region they claim it is. recent events that we all can testify to lay credence to this. the emancipation of the ND is still not sorted out. the vast majority of the people are still in pitiable situations while the privilege few are living large

Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 9:29am On Jul 28, 2013
deemdeem:

ur example has no relevance to the issue raised. whether america has a billion things to learn or not is none of my business.
the military went in late and innocent lives (Nigerians) died for it. case closed
Nonsense! As if the military has not always been in Borno and other Boko Haram infested states. In case you'r having selective amnesia, the JTF has been on ground in those states for over 2 to 3 years. Even before the recent declaration of state of emergency in 3 states, govt had earlier declared SOE in local govt areas infested with Boko Haram.

The successess recorded cannot be reduced to declaration of state of emergency in 3 states. The TIMING of the SOE is crucial. If full blown SOE was declared 2 years ago, it may have failed just like the one declared in certain local govts failed. And when SOE, which appears to be the last resort, fails? What next?

The TIMING has to be precise for good result. First was that the setting up of the amnesty committee sent mixed signal to the local communities and Boko Haram elements. To the communities, it helped build trust between them and the govt. To die-hard Boko Haram elements, it drew them further out from their shells with the hope that govt will scale down the use of force.

Also the lag period enabled the security agencies to gather enough intelligence and made them better prepared for the onslaught. The lag period also ensured that the communities had seen Boko Haram for what they truely are and completely rejected the Boko Haram ideology. All the propaganda that Boko Haram is fighting for Islam has simply collapsed. With the ideology defeated, Boko Haram found it extremely difficult to recruit new members.

The collapse of the Boko Haram ideology, the coming on board of civillian JTF, activities of the amnesty committee and the right timing of declaration of SOE ALL contributed to the successess recorded so far.

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by PapaBrowne(m): 10:18pm On Jul 28, 2013
Like Play, like play, Nigeria is on the move. And we will get there!
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by U235weapongrade: 11:18pm On Jul 28, 2013
Pls ohhh what is GEJ doing about corruption...dia is no doubt he's doing good on so many other issues- but dis one happens to be the most important issue and he's certainly not doing enuf...

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by SNOWWHITE240(m): 4:08am On Jul 29, 2013
many nairalanders call gej retardee lets remove sentiments compare gej records to past head of states gej is the best compared to the few years he has stayed
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by PapaBrowne(m): 9:25am On Jul 29, 2013
SNOWWHITE240: many nairalanders call gej retardee lets remove sentiments compare gej records to past head of states gej is the best compared to the few years he has stayed

The man is doing in 2 years what others couldn't do in 30 years. Some people are just blinded by sheer ethnicism, so they refuse to acknowledge any thing good.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 11:43pm On Sep 01, 2014
This happened under the watch of Ihejirika who is now being attacked by Boko Haram sympathisers and supporters in APC

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by theassassin: 11:55pm On Sep 01, 2014
All I know is

GEJ till 2019

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by deeobserver209(m): 12:13am On Sep 02, 2014
No one can deny the fact that Ihejirika dealt massively with Boko Haram. It even got to a point where Northern terrorist elements began shouting Genocide. Their plan was to buy time for their Boko terrorist while they distract Ihejirika.
Now that Boko Haram is on rampage, the Northern elders now even have the guts to give an Ultimatum to the President to rescue the girls or forget reelection. How convenient.
Majority of these northern leaders are hardcore terrorist.

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Papertrail11(m): 1:38am On Sep 02, 2014
Rossikk: Jonathan doesn't get enough credit for the job he's doing. Just the other day they added a third scheduled service to the Lagos-Kano rail route. I mean, this is a system that's been moribund for over 25 years.


Dude stop making it fucking look as if Jonathan is doing me a favour for doing railway u needed to see d way Fashola washed him uselessly y.day sun over d bad railway port in apapa...

since pple vote for him he should perform and not make it look as if railway is the best thing to come to Nigeria ur smarter dan dis bruh dont let naija politicians wash u oga ade
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Papertrail11(m): 1:43am On Sep 02, 2014
Jonathan is a compl3te furcking failure I swear and a big thief am sure his father and parents have bad value I swear.

Corruption is just mere stealing are u kiddn fucking me

Subsidy thieves stealing naijas money and hoping around freely

Bad economy....I mean badd naijerians are suffering no money

only a cursed fool will suport dis guy its like suporting the devil

weasted drunkard frm outeke land
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by nduchucks: 1:44am On Sep 02, 2014
Sincere9gerian: This happened under the watch of Ihejirika who is now being attacked by Boko Haram sympathisers and supporters in APC

This happened under his watch as well, but sycophants will not talk about it. Justice will be served soon enough:


Nigeria: Gruesome footage implicates military in war crimes

Nigerian Troops Battling Boko Haram Are Guilty of War Crimes: Report

Nigeria troops slitting Boko Haram suspects' throats
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by tit(f): 2:05am On Sep 02, 2014
nduchucks:

Thie happened under his watch as well, but sycophants will not talk about it. Justice will be served soon enough:





You are boko haram so i do not blame you.
But me, if told to chose between
1) boko haram cutting off my head or
2) me cutting off boko haram head,
I know the choice i will make.
I do not know why you dey vex say boko haram got justice served on them.

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Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by nduchucks: 7:19am On Sep 02, 2014
tit:

You are boko haram so i do not blame you.
But me, if told to chose between
1) boko haram cutting off my head or
2) me cutting off boko haram head,
I know the choice i will make.
I do not know why you dey vex say boko haram got justice served on them.

No amount of name calling will absolve the perpetrators of the war crimes depicted in those links. You people should be ashamed of yourselves for the attempt to sweep such a human rights violation of fellow Nigerians under the carpet.

We already know that Boko Haram fighters are criminals who should be dealt with, but not at the expense of committing war crimes against ordinary Nigerians citizens who were simply rounded up without trial and slaughtered.

Amnesty International who has documented these atrocities is a world renowned organization with an exellent track record for exposing crimes such as these.
Re: Like Play, Like Play, Boko Haram Is Fading. by Nobody: 7:22am On Sep 02, 2014
nduchucks:

Thie happened under his watch as well, but sycophants will not talk about it. Justice will be served soon enough:


Nigeria: Gruesome footage implicates military in war crimes

Nigerian Troops Battling Boko Haram Are Guilty of War Crimes: Report

Nigeria troops slitting Boko Haram suspects' throats



If that was what it took the armed forces under Ihejirika to restore calm and sanity to the northeast, then so be it. Why does it matter to you how a group which deploys suicide bombings as instrument of warfare is killed?

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