Frumentum:
Had an un-nerving chat with a colleague on the Mid-East desk about the probability of the GCC conflict with Qatar going hot.
SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC would be used against SA corporate assets in Qatar.
And that's without factoring in the complexities resulting from Denel's active pursuit of sales to Iran - the GCC's sworn enemy.

Truly, we inhabit a mad confusing world.

PICS: Some of the SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC countries and SA corporate assets in Qatar.

Sell weapons to both sides. Let them find a nice open field and settle it once and for all.

newafricaken254:
china unveil a New Light Active Phased Array Radar for JF-17 Thunder /CAC FC-1 Xiaolong fighter jet, with a detection range of about 170 kilometers

KLJ-7A AESA radar during test , it will be used for JF 17 and FC 1 block III

Covert1:
A Banana Republic Can Only Exist On The Doorstep of Weak Countries. History Has Shown Noisemaking Countries Are Soon Cut To Size—The Chief Jingoist Evidently Is.

Shhhhhhh.......!!! My boy

Now sit still and read what the "Noise making. Countries" are doing.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-49580/

Now relax

off topic :India SuccessfullyTest Fires Brahmos Missile From Su-30MKI

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28f91nIVjV8

Covert1:


[s]The man simply ran away for his life and triggered a years plan with the Generals. Something the paper 'tiger' next door had no power over.

Who was gonna stick his head out for a 93 year old man who had become odious and on his way out. However a dangerous precedent has been set. It is now from one tyrant to the next only this time even worse. The vested interests that held Zimbabwe bound still persists under an effective military coup regime. Mnangagwa is not going anywhere soon and democracy will worsen. Zimbabwe is threading on anarchy and effectively now a banana republic all because of the abject failure of South Africa at every turn. Shame! [/s]

You realize that a dictator was just toppled without a single shot being fired?

I dont know what it is you expect to happen - we must invade to protect a dictator?

Dude, grow up.

"A banana republic can only exist on the doorstep of weak countries"

Irony is that there seems to be a lot more "existing" in that neck of the woods. Please forgive us, we're not used to this type of thing

Next time we'll go in and blow things up before the General's tea gets cold.

patches689:


You realize that a dictator was just toppled without a single shot being fired?

I dont know what it is you expect to happen - we must invade to protect a dictator?

Dude, grow up.

What is Mr. Canceler Sry Patch'it Mumbling?

ssaengine:
"A banana republic can only exist on the doorstep of weak countries"

Irony is that there seems to be a lot more "existing" in that neck of the woods. Please forgive us, we're not used to this type of thing

Next time we'll go in and blow things up before the General's tea gets cold.

Exactly so u acknowledge just come for necessary tutelage before you engage to avoid a fiasco: not always military interventions go according to plan–we know so as masters of the game...Now see your comrades pay due obsequies to the Giant.

The President of Rwanda and C-in-C of RDF attends the annual Combined Arms Field Training Exercise in Gabiro

Algerian1:


same with the trans sahara highway , railways , pipeline project btween algiers to Lagos

Such projects foster international cooperation and are more useful than a 100 peace conferences! Intra African trade is encouraged along with productive citizen exchanges. I've just looked closer at the map and the TSH will logically join the LAPSSET near Yaounde.

Frumentum:
Had an un-nerving chat with a colleague on the Mid-East desk about the probability of the GCC conflict with Qatar going hot.
SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC would be used against SA corporate assets in Qatar.
And that's without factoring in the complexities resulting from Denel's active pursuit of sales to Iran - the GCC's sworn enemy.

Truly, we inhabit a mad confusing world.

PICS: Some of the SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC countries and SA corporate assets in Qatar.

Frumentum,what's the name of the truck mounted double barrelled 120mm mortar? I didn't know you had that!

ssaengine:


Sell weapons to both sides. Let them find a nice open field and settle it once and for all.

GCC vs Qatar? or
GCC vs Iran?
I'll presume the latter. The Iranian market is worth far more than GCC. The problem is this: do we sacrifice our existing sales for potential sales to Iran which may not materialise?
What guarantee do we have that some of the P5 members of the UNSC won't veto sales in favour of their own domestic industries?
We throw away our JVs with Tawazun, EDIC and the Saudis and the Iranians decide to wait till 2025 when they can buy from the Russians and Chinese; what then?
Apart from the Umkhonto GB SAM which they're keen to buy, and for which we're awaiting UNSC approval, I'd really be chuffed if they committed to funding and acquiring some Rooivalk MK2.

kikuyu1:


Frumentum,what's the name of the truck mounted double barrelled 120mm mortar? I didn't know you had that!

The automated self-loading mortar came from Singapore Tech Kinetics and Denel did the integration and supplied the vehicle, Fire Control System and ammo.

Frumentum:


The automated self-loading mortar came from Singapore Tech Kinetics and Denel did the integration and supplied the vehicle, Fire Control System and ammo.

If it were up to me 2 pieces would be mandatory in the ToE of any mechanised or motorised coy!
-Easy use
-Fast loading and high RoF due to the double barrel
-mobile enough to keep up with the lighter motorised boys
-very effective for our AS/BH type oppos here or the high tech mechanised forces you'd meet in 2nd or even 1st world theatres.

It has been said we should be careful of a weapon dictating its own doctrine so someone think of a disadvantage of this SLM-quick!

kikuyu1:


If it were up to me 2 pieces would be mandatory in the ToE of any mechanised or motorised coy!
-Easy use
-Fast loading and high RoF due to the double barrel
-mobile enough to keep up with the lighter motorised boys
-very effective for our AS/BH type oppos here or the high tech mechanised forces you'd meet in 2nd or even 1st world theatres.

It has been said we should be careful of a weapon dictating its own doctrine so someone think of a disadvantage of this SLM-quick!

I'm wary of anyone espousing doctrine which minimises mortars in the modern battlefield [sadly, my western planning counterparts have been such; until they witness practical implementation of SA mortar doctrine!]

I'll expand on this anon.

newafricaken254:
china unveil a New Light Active Phased Array Radar for JF-17 Thunder /CAC FC-1 Xiaolong fighter jet, with a detection range of about 170 kilometers

It has been tested on JF17B already. Expected on JF17B and block 3.

Frumentum:


I'm wary of anyone espousing doctrine which minimises mortars in the modern battlefield [sadly, my western planning counterparts have been such; until they witness practical implementation of SA mortar doctrine!]

I'll expand on this anon.

Breathlessly waiting for your expansion, sir!

Sudanese made SAR-SAR 1

Taharqa999:
Sudanese made SAR-SAR 1

Hello there Racist person, Arab wannabe.

jakeporeshenko:

Hello there Racist person, Arab wannabe.

The guy should have been banned till 3059.

Andrewza, you guys down in the Cape finally get a biggish air-show. 50 years of the Silver Falcons!

Gripen to break sound barrier at Langebaan Airshow

http://www.aviationcentral.co.za/2017/11/20/gripen_sound_barrier_langebaan_airshow/

Would love to know why they're gifting you with a sonic boom, seeing Langebaan is a residential area.

A list of other Aircraft to attend this Airshow:

SAAF

Denel Rooivalk
Pilatus PC-7 Mk II Silver Falcons
Pilatus PC-7 Mk II
Atlas Oryx
Westland Super Lynx
Agusta A109
Bae Hawk MK120
Saab Jas 39C/D Gripen
Cessna C208
Casa C212
Douglas C-47TP
Lockheed C-130BZ

Civilian
Harvard, Puma Flying Lions
RV7, RV8, RV9, Raptors
Aero L-39 Albatros
Extra 300, Nashua
Boeing 737-800, Mango
Slick 540, Neville Ferreira
Atlas Impala Mk1
Radio-Controlled Aircraft, AMSRCC
Cirrus And Extra 300, Team Extreme
Antonov An-2, Little Annie
Huey, AT-802 And Cessna C206, WOF
Diamond DV20 Katana, CTFTC
Eurocopter EC145, AMS
Skydiving, Mother City Skydiving

Static displays of aircraft and classic cars ‎

Argentinians loose a sub on our backyard, everyone goes hunting for it (including the Brits) except our guys.... Andrewza, what gives?

ActivateKruger:
Argentinians loose a sub on our backyard, everyone goes hunting for it (including the Brits) except our guys.... Andrewza, what gives?

It went missing of South America not southern Africa

What do you call a polite coup-not-coup in Zimbabwe? A "zoup".
Mnangagwa the Crocodile addresses the country and thanks Jacob Zuma and SADC.

FUN Fact: apart from Lesotho and Madagascar, no other country in SADC has ever experienced a coup. Zaire doesn't count as they were not SADC members at the time.
The Soviet Union and ANC once passed intelligence to India's Indira Gandhi to foil a CIA/Apartheid RSA planned coup in Mauritius.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCOGqxMgDm8

ActivateKruger:
Argentinians loose a sub on our backyard, everyone goes hunting for it (including the Brits) except our guys.... Andrewza, what gives?

I'm quite certain I provided the details on the weekend where she went missing. The Argentine military, like the country, is in all sorts of trouble at the moment, and ARA San Juan and those poor 44 souls should never have put to sea.
When they stopped participation in Exercise Atlasur, it was confirmation they were in far more serious trouble than their official economic stats.

Sudan air force drills

jakeporeshenko:

Hello there Racist person, Arab wannabe.

hey there funny person, still butthurt i see

.

War scenario between Sudan vs Nigeria

We all know that Nigeria has a population advantage over Sudan. 185 million vs 39 million.
In terms of economy, Nigeria has a bigger economy of $394 BN vs $118 BN of Sudan.
Sudan is a richer country in GDP per capita.

According to GFP Nigeria ranks 4th in Africa whereas Sudan ranks 8th. However, GFP is bulshit as it doesn't have accurate figures of Sudan and thinks that the country with more tanks is more powerful without taking into account the models of tanks. So a country with 100 T55's is stronger then a country with 90 Leopard tanks. which any person knows is Bullshit.

lets start with land forces. Even though Nigeria has a bigger population, it has a much smaller standing/trained army. Sudan has a larger standing army. accoridng to GFP, nigeria has more AFV's compared to Sudan. However, it doesn't take into account the number of AFV's produced in Sudan locally under the IMC. In addition to AFV's, Sudan produces tanks such as Chinese T85 under the name Bashir 1 and Russian T 72 under the name zubeir. It is the 3rd largest ars manufacturer in Africa. the most powerful asset of Nigerian land troops are the T72 MBT's. Nigeria has about 35 of them. Sudan has many more T72s and as of just last year, ordered an additional 170 T72's. So Sudan has the advantage in number of tanks and self sufficience in local arms manufacturing which is more than enough to take a country like Nigeria. However, due to Nigerias larger population and ability to recruit a lot more militias as well as a smaller geographic size, I think the ground battle would be pretty balanced.

Secondly, in the air. I will not take into account the potential acquisition of Su 35 fighter jets for the Sudanese air force at this point. We know negotiations are taking place since march this year, but whether they have been actually delivered (as claimed by news channels) yet still needs to be seen within the next wek or so. Nigeria depends fully on the Alpha jets and Mil mi 24s for its fight. the Alpha jets are jokes compared to Sudans mig 29's and su 24's. Nigeria has about 11 Alpha jets whereas Sudan has about 35 Mig 29's. Nigeria has below 15 mil mi 24's whereas Sudan has +50. So in terms of the air, Sudan would dominate the skies over Nigeria. Even if Nigeria gets Pakistani made JF 17's, which I doubt in the near future, the Sudanese air force would still have the edge. It is very likely that Sudan will get a number of Su 35's before 2020 which would mean game over for Nigeria in the air. but even without the su 35's, Sudanese mig 29's have proven very effective. Nigeria air defence is at the same level as that of Sudan. In conclusion, the skies are for Sudan to take.

Finally, the waters. This is the field where Nigeria has an advantage. Nigeria has a couple of frigates which were donated to them by the US which would be very useful in a water fight with Sudan. Due to 20 years of economic sanctions, Sudan navy is practically non existent. other then a few high speed patrol boats produced locally, there is nothing much to mention on Sudans side. There is however a plan to rebuild the Sudanese army from scratch after the embargoes were lifted last month. However, to develop a navy will take years. So in conclusion at this point, the waters are for Nigeria to take.


Overall, a war between Nigeria and Sudan would most likely be on land. Therefore, it would be a much balanced war where Nigeria takes advantage of its population size and Sudan would depend on its tank numbers more than ever before. However, Sudan always has the umbrella of its air force in the skies. That would support its ground forces and hit Nigerian targets even inside Nigeria. Obviously, Chad would be under siege as the battle wages between the 2 powers. As mentioned earlier, Nigeria owns the waters. However, Nigeria navy is not the type that can last very long outside its own waters. getting to the Red Sea alone would be a big challenge and even if it did somehow get near Suakin or port Sudan, would it be able to survive against the waves of Sudans air force and missiles? I do not think that Nigerian army can get to Sudanese territory or whether the Sudanese army can reach Nigeria. However, the Sudanese air force has the ability to reach Nigerian skies and if it gets the Su 35s then Abuja is not a far distance. Both Sudan and Nigeria have not been in a major war against a neighbour. Nigeria has done some small scale peacekeeping across Africa whereas Sudan has been battling in countries like Yemen and Lebanon. both countries have in modern age faced nothing but internal insurgents. South Sudan seceded from the North under a democratic vote and not a military victory. Since the Sudanese army left the south, all you have to do is open CNN and judge.

The odds would say Sudan would hurt Nigeria, but its up to the reader to judge.


stay tuned for next war scenario, Nigeria vs Ethiopia........

Cc:supremecourt and covert1


Kindly serve that guy what he deserves.

What a beautiful picture.

tdayof:



Kindly serve that guy what he deserves.

Let's not encourage shenanigans. This thread refuses to be a haven for nitwits