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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:18pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
kill probability etc given by OEM r calculated under test conditions , in real world one will get surprised more often if one decides to take the same as the gospel truth every weapon system has counters (which again has counters and again.............so forth , actually it is a game of ringa ringa roses ), it depends on activating the right one at the right time at the right place . eg. laser guided systems can be defeated by laser beam dispersing aerosol mists 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 6:24pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Special Forces - SA 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:45pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: do u know Americans will be paying periodic visits to ensure that u dont even unscrew one nut its part of every arms sales agreement the Americans make with other countries , but nevertheless it is prudent to assume that there r ways to hoodwink them u and i could try , provided i get to carry off one 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:00pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: in the pic i dont see any ..... where r the co-developers ? that is a serious technical level question 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 7:03pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Somalia regains control of its airspace 27 years later. MOGADISHU, Dec. 28 (Xinhua) -- The Somali government on Thursday announced that it has officially regained control and management of its airspace after 27 years being run by the United Nations International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) regional office in Nairobi. Somali President Mohamed Abdulahi Farmajo officially inaugurated the offices and equipment installed at Mogadishu International Airport on Thursday and said that the move represents a significant step towards the development of the country. "It is a great honor for us to witness this historic day that we retake control and management of our airspace. This did not come simply and luckily, but through hard work," Farmajo said. He thanked the officials of the Ministry of Transport and Civil Aviation for their efforts as well as ICAO which has been running the airport. He added that taking over the running of Somalia's airspace is part of his government's commitment to restore important public services. Somali Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation, Mohamed Abdulahi Salad, said that all equipment for the control of the airspace is ready and secure with its staff who are currently based in Kenya's capital city of Nairobi. Salad thanked all those who have played a role in the return of Somalia's airspace control back to local oversight. He added that the government has also reestablished direct flights between Mogadishu and Nairobi, which previously required a stopover in Wajir in North East Kenya for security reasons. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:04pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: This bad guy sha 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 7:45pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 7:52pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: Jf17 is not a good plane. It's an average plane. That's why Pakistan is still buying J10 and F16. With our neighbors having Mig29, Su30 and Su35 I don't think Jf17 is good enough to be our frontline fighter. We should buy a fighter that we won't have to replace in at least 2 decades. Jf17 is 4,4+ at best we should buy a 4++. I prefer the Fa50 to Jf17. We should look at J10c, Su35, Mig35, or Su30. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 7:58pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: There we go. People from Mars are already showing interest in the CLASSIFIED weapons. I guess we will have to guard them 24/7 with mean looking guys when they finally arrive. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:59pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: The Chinese have co-developers on grandson of Mig-21? 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:06pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Xbee007: i hope it includes pretty lady guards , i get myself a wife/wifes and classified weapons as dowry dont worry i will invite u guys to the marriage before i vanish with the wife/wifes and their classified dowry/dowries 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 8:27pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
jln115: you forgot me 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:30pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
frumentius: what the chinese gained from this collaboration was valuable insight with regard to western maintenance methodologies / tactics evolution / training / functional aspects related to cockpit operations etc all these came from the F16 experience gained by ..... from NATO and US exercise/training programs. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Adminisher: 8:34pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: JF 17 is not a good plane?. That is Indian mis information spread with typical Indian industry on the entire Internet. This JF 17 is already flying with very few accidents. This JF17 is going to have AESA radar. This JF has comprehensive counter measure suite. This JF 17 does what most F16 versions can do for half the cost. Meanwhile you are comparing JF17 against "fly one hour and shutdown ten hours" Russian planes and a "cut and join" Chinese J10 that does not even scare SE Asian countries. J10 has not dropped a bomb or fired a missile in anger since it was developed. SU 34 and MIG 3x missed targets against ISIS many times on live TV in Syria. ISIS was beaten in Syria not from the air by Russian jets. ISIS was beaten by ground based Spetnatz Special forces, hardcore Iranian Revolutionary guards, hatefully fanatical Shia militants and Syrian Army soldiers whose toughness and skills are always under estimated. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:34pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: Jf17 is not a good place why because Pakistan is still buying j10 and f16. So that's why? Instead of wasting time to tackle your reasons, I think you should know Pakistan cancelled the J-10 orders for JF17 block 3 and the country does not have any order for f16. If you couldn't get the above right then it's obvious why your reasons sounds unrealistic. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 8:39pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Adminisher: The j10 has a short range and combat radius. The JF17 still remains a good fighter among her peers. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:47pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Some classified ultra-secret 70mm guided rockets from around the world PIC1: Lockheed DAGR; PIC2: Raytheon Talon; PIC3: Elbit GATR; PIC4: Rocketsan Cirit; PIC5: FZ275 LGR; PIC6: BAE APKWS. 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Adminisher: 9:01pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: He even prefers Samsung/Hyundai FA50 to JF 17. Na wa. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:03pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Adminisher: typical seriously ? fanboy internet bickering happens from both sides so pointless to drag nations into this . from what u wrote , i hope u reread what u wrote " Meanwhile you are comparing JF17 against "fly one hour and shutdown ten hours" Russian planes and a "cut and join" Chinese J10 that does not even scare SE Asian countries. " in light of what u wrote pray tell me this doesn't the use of Russian engines in FC1 also translate to "fly one hour and shutdown ten hours" .u said it not me why did the PLAAF induct the more expensive "cut and join" J10 but not the Chinese FC1, r they so foolish or dont know something which u know. they r only the designers of FC1 and J10 aren't they ? in my world we r taught to respect every weapon system we might face , fear their strengths and exploit their weakness . only a foolish person or somebody whose life will never be at risk will badmouth a weapon system from any country. as i always say every weapon has its strength and its weakness and also note that till date i have never bad mouthed any weapon from any country FYI FC1 role in .... is that of a work horse they r meant to fill in the falling numbers , ie replace the mirages/f-7 etc why do u think they have so many AWACS/AEW platforms ? one probable hypothesis is the aircraft's will not risk getting into a merge , they will engage their targets at BVR ranges via targeting cues provided by the AWACS/AEW platforms. this is from the SAsia perspective in African scenario it will depend on the how the operator see their threats and designates roles inorder to neutralize those threats . lastly their premier fighter till date is F16 , when the block 3 comes out the role might change . that is the ultimate intend of as of now. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:10pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: the real reason is Americans cut off the sale of F16 , they did not subsidize the last sale of 10 f16 , and the ....... did not have the funds so it was cancelled. J10 sale has not be cleared for export till date plus it is a single engine jet same as FC1 so why get another SE jet ? ............... r now negotiating for twin engined J31 - another joint development like FC1 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:11pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u:I'll just go ahead and assume you're being rhetorical and not expecting rational argument on here. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 9:16pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Adminisher: Air power is very important in 21st century warfare. During the Russian campaign in Syria they used mostly unguided weapons and clustered ammunition. Secondly every one knows that Russian Air power rescued Syria from Isis. Thirdly we're not getting the block 3. F16 is combat proven the J10 is the Israeli Lavi project a variation of the F16. Jf17 has only shot an Iranian drone. Indian misinformation? http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/need-cheap-fighter-aircraft-the-jf-17-might-work-14336. The National interest is reputable and is not an Indian site. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 9:19pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: Name some Fighters the Jf17 is better than? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 9:28pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: They tried to get some F16 but the US refused to subside it. https://thediplomat.com/2016/03/pakistan-wants-10-more-f-16s-or-does-it-want-russian-su-35s/ 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:32pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: China and Pakistan trade will never be like china and any other nation. China was willing to sell to Pakistan. Maybe not cleared to export to any other nation. China offered J10B to Pakistan and a deal was signed which ended up being cancelled in favour of the JF17 block 3. Reason why it was cancelled has nothing to do with being a single engine. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:33pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: Getting f16 doesn't mean the jf17 isn't good. Egypt operates F16, Rafale, Mig 35 etc. It's your choice plus they have a huge other for their own JF17. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:36pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: Name some things that makes the jf17 inferior to others. At least let us be on the technical aspect. In your comparison, kindly make use of the block 2 and 3 variants. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:38pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
barineh: all these sites dont mean anything firstly one must take ownership of ones weapon system ,u bought a system u got to stick with it and make it count. secondly every weapon has its strengths and weakness finally it depends on the end user on how it exploits a weapon system to its advantage so no point in comparison becz nobody here or anywhere will get it correct . sir no offence but its meaningless to compare complex weapons like aircraft's better analyze the weapon system standalone . 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:39pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof:F16, Rafale and the Mig 35 serve different roles. We'd have a similar set in many African air forces if we had the funds. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:46pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MikeCZA: F16 and Rafale will perform same task well. Yes, that's my point exactly funds. Pakistan has the money to spend just like her best friend India with various jets. Once you have the money, you'll play the game well. Nemesis4u, |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:47pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tdayof: ur sources for the above ? its new to me AFAIK block 3 was always on the anvil years back , what was new was coming around of the 2 seater courtesy of the Burmese requirement. anyways there r no friends among nations only opportunities 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:51pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
nemesis4u: Once there's opportunity there's friendship. Maybe we can find some between nigeria and India at least there's something similar between the two nation ( voodoo and witchcrafts) then we can get some free flankers from you. 1 Like |
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