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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidex111: 5:38pm On Jan 12, 2021
giles14:
na u make JF-17 deep strike aircraft? whether u like it or not JF-17 is a light attack aircraft, its in same class as the tejas,gripen,Fa-50 etc.


Yeah its a light weight multirole fighter jet in its class, cheap to maintain and has a single engine ...etc.
But the facts still remains its used for multiple roles, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship, and aerial reconnaissance.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:46pm On Jan 12, 2021
giles14:
but the yak is almost on pair with the JF-17.

How is a trainer jet almost on par with a frontline multi-role 4th gen combat aircraft?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:48pm On Jan 12, 2021
marvin906:



Your next to insane if you compare a Tejas and fa 50 to gripen and JF-17..
A gripen is a light attack aircraft you must be trolling

They are all in the same class, but the Yak-130 is not.

It is a trainer aircraft.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:49pm On Jan 12, 2021
Nigerian made Proforce ARA MRAP in the frontlines.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:02pm On Jan 12, 2021
Nigerian Air force (NAF), CAS Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar to the Caverton Maintenance Repair & Overhaul facility and the Caverton Aviation Training Center, all in Ikeja Lagos.

Caverton has the largest MRO for Leonardo helicopters in Africa

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Jimi24: 6:09pm On Jan 12, 2021
kabe1:


How is a trainer jet almost on par with a frontline multi-role 4th gen combat aircraft?

Does the Yak even have a radar?.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by marvin906(m): 6:19pm On Jan 12, 2021
kabe1:


They are all in the same class, but the Yak-130 is not.

It is a trainer aircraft.




Kindly explain what you mean by the same class
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by marvin906(m): 6:24pm On Jan 12, 2021
kabe1:


How is a trainer jet almost on par with a frontline multi-role 4th gen combat aircraft?


That guy is romancing madness
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jan 12, 2021
soldier to death by firing squad for killing colleague

The court-martial sitting in Maiduguri, Borno State capital has sentenced Trooper Azunna Maduabuchi to death by firing squad.

Maduabuchi was sentenced for killing the adjutant of his unit, one Lieutenant Babakaka Ngorgi.

Trooper Maduabuchi was arraigned for murder after shooting Lieutenant Ngorgi in July 2020 at close range in Bama Local Government of Borno State for refusing to grant him a welfare pass.

He was on Tuesday sentenced to death by firing squad after he was found guilty at the court session held at the Maimalari Cantonment, Maiduguri.

Four other soldiers arraigned for manslaughter were sentenced to various years of imprisonment. Sergeant Sani Ishaya was sentenced to four years, Bidemi Fabiyi sentenced to two years while Private Musa Bala and Private Abdulraheed Adamu were sentenced to one-year imprisonment.

Another soldier Mohammed Kudu was sentenced to three years imprisonment shooting a 12-year-old boy at a wedding.

Lance Corporal Aja Emmanuel arraigned for a lone charge of assault has been de-ranked and now a private soldier.

The arraignment and sentencing of the erring soldiers is in accordance with Section 106 of the Armed Forces Act.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jan 12, 2021
Mohammed Kudu killed a 12 year old Nigerian with a promising future, and he just got handed a petty 4 years..Tells you everything you need to know. Why isn't Mohammed going to the stakes,so he gets fired at, same way Maduabuchi would be fired at?

Well, no sympathy for a Nigerian soldier, irrespective of his tribe. Maduabuchi would shoot at unarmed Nigerians, if given the orders to perpetrate such evil.
illumined:
soldier to death by firing squad for killing colleague

The court-martial sitting in Maiduguri, Borno State capital has sentenced Trooper Azunna Maduabuchi to death by firing squad.

Maduabuchi was sentenced for killing the adjutant of his unit, one Lieutenant Babakaka Ngorgi.

Trooper Maduabuchi was arraigned for murder after shooting Lieutenant Ngorgi in July 2020 at close range in Bama Local Government of Borno State for refusing to grant him a welfare pass.

He was on Tuesday sentenced to death by firing squad after he was found guilty at the court session held at the Maimalari Cantonment, Maiduguri.

Four other soldiers arraigned for manslaughter were sentenced to various years of imprisonment. Sergeant Sani Ishaya was sentenced to four years, Bidemi Fabiyi sentenced to two years while Private Musa Bala and Private Abdulraheed Adamu were sentenced to one-year imprisonment.

Another soldier Mohammed Kudu was sentenced to three years imprisonment shooting a 12-year-old boy at a wedding.

Lance Corporal Aja Emmanuel arraigned for a lone charge of assault has been de-ranked and now a private soldier.

The arraignment and sentencing of the erring soldiers is in accordance with Section 106 of the Armed Forces Act.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jan 12, 2021
giles14:
na u make JF-17 deep strike aircraft? whether u like it or not JF-17 is a light attack aircraft, its in same class as the tejas,gripen,Fa-50 etc.
the Tejas, FA-50 and Yak are in the same class as the BAE hawk not the Gripen.... Get your facts in order before spewing nonsense
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:36pm On Jan 12, 2021
kabe1:


They are all in the same class, but the Yak-130 is not.

It is a trainer aircraft.
Tejas and JF-17 are asub match 2 affordable light multi role aircraft in direct competition with each other the FA50 and Yak are trainer/light attack aircraft .... Neither of these are in the same class as the Gripen.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:45pm On Jan 12, 2021
bidex111:


How can you call jf17 a light attack jet.
Its a multirole fighter jet and its supersonic

The yak 130 is an advanced flight and tactical combat trainer and light attack aircraft.

Them no be mate in all combat situation!

You guys are just making the issue more complicated for him to understand.

Yak 130 is an Advance trainer aircraft that can also be used in light attack operation (secondary role). The light attack capabilities of the yak-130 is just a secondary role.

Yak-130 is in the same class as L-15, M-346, T-50 golden eagle, etc.

Jf-17 is in the same class as gripen and tejas as light multi role fighter aircraft.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:48pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:
Tejas and JF-17 are asub match 2 affordable light multi role aircraft in direct competition with each other the FA50 and Yak are trainer/light attack aircraft .... Neither of these are in the same class as the Gripen.

I think FA-50 it different from T-50 golden eagle.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:53pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


I think FA-50 it different from T-50 golden eagle.
the FA50 is just an armed version of the T50

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


You guys are just making the issue more complicated for him to understand.

Yak 130 is an Advance trainer aircraft that can also be used in light attack operation (secondary role). The light attack capabilities of the yak-130 is just a secondary role.

Yak-130 is in the same class as L-15, M-346, T-50 golden eagle, etc.

Jf-17 is in the same class as gripen and tejas as light multi role fighter aircraft.
by definition yes however the JF17 and Tejas are direct competitors with each other, not really competing with the Gripen which is direct competition to the F16.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:
the FA50 is just an armed version of the T50

T-50 is in same class as the yak-130 as Advanced trainer/ light attack
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 8:06pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


You guys are just making the issue more complicated for him to understand.

Yak 130 is an Advance trainer aircraft that can also be used in light attack operation (secondary role). The light attack capabilities of the yak-130 is just a secondary role.

Yak-130 is in the same class as L-15, M-346, T-50 golden eagle, etc.

Jf-17 is in the same class as gripen and tejas as light multi role fighter aircraft.


Sir there is a big deference between an advanced trainer/light attack and a "light multirole fighter jet" !..

Now before we argue further go check what a multirole fighter jet his ?.
And a light attack aircraft ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 8:08pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:
by definition yes however the JF17 and Tejas are direct competitors with each other, not really competing with the Gripen which is direct competition to the F16.

What are you taking about? F-16 and mig 29 are classified as medium multirole fighter jets

Do you know the jet better than the manufacturer?

Gripen JAS-39 (C/D) is a light attack aircraft

Gripen E/F that was compared in some ways with F-16

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 8:23pm On Jan 12, 2021
bidexiii:



Sir there is a big deference between an advanced trainer/light attack and a "light multirole fighter jet" !..

Now before we argue further go check what a multirole fighter jet his ?.
And a light attack aircraft ?

I only expanded on what you said earlier


Fighter jets are just in three categories:

1) Light attack fighter jets (gripen, tejas, jf-17, FA-50, etc)

2) Medium fighter jets (F-16, MIG 29/35, J-10, J-11B, etc)

3) Heavy fighter jets ( F15, Rafael,eurofighter typoon, SU-30/35, etc)


But to answer your question Multirole aircraft is as simple as the name ( ability of the jet to be used for different roles in combat).

Their are fighter jets that are not multi-role such as bombers and interceptors. I believe the F-7 is an interceptor.

Even the heavy and medium fighters can still be multi-role fighters.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


What are you taking about? F-16 and mig 29 are classified as medium multirole fighter jets

Do you know the jet better than the manufacturer?

Gripen JAS-39 (C/D) is a light attack aircraft

Gripen E/F that was compared in some ways with F-16

There is less than 2 ton difference in weight between the F16 and Gripen and in terms of length and wingspan they are very similar.

Also how can the Gripen E be similar to the F16 and not the Gripen C?..... They are almost identical in size? Just the payload of the E is around a ton higher
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 8:51pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:

There is less than 2 ton difference in weight between the F16 and Gripen and in terms of length and wingspan they are very similar.

Also how can the Gripen E be similar to the F16 and not the Gripen C?..... They are almost identical in size? Just the payload of the E is around a ton higher


That's why the F-16's payload capacity is 7700kg while the gripen payload capacity is 3400kg more than double the size of weapons that can be carried and will still attain the same speed as the gripen

You don't have a point. Hope you see the difference in the weight?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


That's why the F-16's payload capacity is 7700kg while the gripen payload capacity is 3400kg more than double the size of weapons that can be carried and will still attain the same speed as the gripen

You don't have a point. Hope you see the difference in the weight?
Gripen empty weight : 6800kg
Gripen max take off: 14000kg
Payload = 7200kg

Where did you get your facts from bru?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by marvin906(m): 9:19pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


You guys are just making the issue more complicated for him to understand.

Yak 130 is an Advance trainer aircraft that can also be used in light attack operation (secondary role). The light attack capabilities of the yak-130 is just a secondary role.

Yak-130 is in the same class as L-15, M-346, T-50 golden eagle, etc.

Jf-17 is in the same class as gripen and tejas as light multi role fighter aircraft.


Remove tejas from that list
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 9:20pm On Jan 12, 2021
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 9:21pm On Jan 12, 2021
marvin906:



Remove tejas from that list
Why?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 9:35pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:

Gripen empty weight : 6800kg
Gripen max take off: 14000kg
Payload = 7200kg

Where did you get your facts from bru?

5300kg payload not 3400kg sorry. That's still the range of JF-17 thunder ⚡

Maybe the jf-17 is also competing with F-16 as well just look at the weight, length and wingspan too.

You just like wahala.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:14pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


5300kg payload not 3400kg sorry. That's still the range of JF-17 thunder ⚡

Maybe the jf-17 is also competing with F-16 as well just look at the weight, length and wingspan too.

You just like wahala.
Maybe stop using fanboy blog information which has the Gripen's specs totally wrong for a start.

Also 14000kg - 6800kg = 7200kg

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:22pm On Jan 12, 2021
jln115:
Tejas and JF-17 are asub match 2 affordable light multi role aircraft in direct competition with each other the FA50 and Yak are trainer/light attack aircraft .... Neither of these are in the same class as the Gripen.

OK.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:27pm On Jan 12, 2021
marvin906:





Kindly explain what you mean by the same class

The Gripen C/D model, JF-17 Block II, FA-50 and Tejas are all categorized as light weight fighters because of the lower weapons load they carry, single engine and less powerful than the ones used in the F-16, J-10.

The YAK-130 is a trainer aircraft, it's used to train fighter pilots, but can also perform light attack like the Alpha Jet and L-39.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:27pm On Jan 12, 2021
Jimi24:


Does the Yak even have a radar?.

I think it has.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:29pm On Jan 12, 2021
iblawi:


I think FA-50 it different from T-50 golden eagle.

Philippines Air Force use the FA-50.

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