jl115:
Same article kabe1 keeps regurgitating

NTSA:
Do you guys think that Naval warfare is on the decline?
Maybe apart from logistical support and force projection by aircraft carriers.

GreenandGold:
The Nigerian Navy has:


- 0 torpedoes

kabe1:




He also sees employment of the new MMIPV as indicating “no other ships are or were available” for both exercises adding it “could” be why Brazil was not part of Ibsamar.


What a shame, same old story of MZansi incompetence.

kabe1:


New MMIPV in exercise points to possible non-availability of other platforms

Defenceweb - 16th November 2022

kabe1:


I'm glad I bantered you into an education.

Mr topidos!

opponents of the Skelewu "missile-less" Navy are on patrol

kabe1:
The Nigerian Navy Hydrographic Office (NNHO) is conducting the survey of the Lower Niger, in partnership with NEXIM Bank and NIWA, as well as the survey of Lagos/Lekki Lagoons. The data from these surveys have been used to produce several navigational paper and electronic chats.

kabe1:
The Nigerian Navy currently has 9 x units of Leonardo A109 Helicopters in service, 3 x Leonardo A-109 Helicopters are currently being built in Italy for a total of 12 x units of Leonardo A-109.

The Nigerian Navy has has 1 x unit of Leonardo A-139 helicopter.

2 x units of Bell Jet Ranger helicopters used for training new Navy aviators.

Total helicopters in Navy service is 15 units.

Exnavyboy62:


15 helicopters, 4 rotorcrafts UAVs(AVIC AR-500B) and several VTOL drones to it's dispense.

Meanwhile........................ a particular Almighty Navy that is meant to scare the so called "Skelewu Navy" still depends on their ailing air force to carry out naval air operations in the 21st century. Somebody laugh with me

Exnavyboy62:


15 helicopters, 4 rotorcrafts UAVs(AVIC AR-500B) and several VTOL drones to it's dispense.

Meanwhile........................ a particular Almighty Navy that is meant to scare the so called "Skelewu Navy" still depends on their ailing air force to carry out naval air operations in the 21st century. Somebody laugh with me

jl115:
you mean a Navy with 4 Frigates and 3 subs and actual anti ship and anti air capability vs your navy with 0 of that?

Exnavyboy62:


15 helicopters, 4 rotorcrafts UAVs(AVIC AR-500B) and several VTOL drones to it's dispense.

Meanwhile........................ a particular Almighty Navy that is meant to scare the so called "Skelewu Navy" still depends on their ailing air force to carry out naval air operations in the 21st century. Somebody laugh with me

GreenandGold:


- 80% of the largest top 10 companies in Africa are South African, 0% Nigerian.

- The JSE is 10 times bigger than the Nigeria Stock Exchange... Yep, it's 1000% bigger.

You don't have any economic instruments that could make you even our equals, let alone above us

For all we, know, your economy is about 10-20% of the Saffa one if real auditing could be made.

Exnavyboy62:


I mean a Navy with 1 operational frigate out of 4 with an obsolete 76mm compact gun, 13 out of 16 surface to air missiles and yet to be upgraded anti-ship missiles that can be wasted by chaff/decoys. That frigate will be showed SHEGE!!! by the superior main Naval gun of the P18N vessels
A Navy with 0 operational out of 3 submarines that was purchased to chase away sharks according to a S.A Navy commander

Mrs Modise WWWHHHYYY!!!

Lurker4Long:
Jl115, GreenandGold, why do you keep feeding the trolls?
You've both been here long enough to know to ignore the periodic bouts of STDs (Saffer Traducing Derangement).
It is unsporting to punch down. One really ought to leave brawling to peers.

Covert1:
South African Defence Force In Free Fall

Only one Inshore Patrol Vessel available (note: not even a medium sail Ocean Patrol Vessel). South Africa now has no Blue Water Capability, its moribund Frigates are outdated with inefficient crew and can not patrol its airspace. As it is stands even Kenya has a better Navy.
Below is a review by a Southie Military Expert.

EXPERT REVIEW OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN NATIONAL DEFENCE FORCE (SANDF) BY A 'SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY EXPERT'

SA Defence

New MMIPV in exercise points to possible non-availability of other platforms

Kim Helfrich -

16th Nov 2022

SAS King Sekhukhune

The deployment of a new platform busy with operational testing and evaluation (OTE) for a naval exercise, while unusual should not raise eyebrows, is seasoned South African defence observer and analyst Helmoed Heitman’s view on SAS King Sekhukhune I’s (P1571) second NAVEX in short order.
After being the sole seagoing SA Navy (SAN) platform for Exercise Ibsamar in mid-October, the fleet’s first MMIPV (multi-mission inshore patrol vessel) will again be in action in False Bay for Exercise Oxide later this month.
The Franco/South African exercise is a regular with French forces in the Indian Ocean, based on Reunion, using the biannual event to improve co-operation and inter-operability, with piracy and illegal, unreported and unregulated (IUU) fishing high on the priority list. Oxide this year, according to SAN operational communications officer for the exercise, Sub-Lieutenant Judy Ann Baatjes, runs from tomorrow (Thursday, 17 November) to Monday week (28 November). Initial information supplied by Directorate Corporate Communication of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) had the exercise starting on 14 November and ending on 30 November “on the Cape west coast”.

The nuts and bolts of Oxide 2022 will be “various exercises” with search and rescue (SAR) the main objective.
This, Heitman sees not presenting major challenges to the crew and command of P1571 “provided the SAN feels the crew is far enough down the line not to embarrass it”.
He also sees employment of the new MMIPV as indicating “no other ships are or were available” for both exercises adding it “could” be why Brazil was not part of Ibsamar.

Going further into the current state of the SANDF, Heitman maintains all the services “have been reduced to ‘third world’ forces typical of the 60s and 70s, with unserviceable equipment, a large bureaucracy and a focus on everything but operational readiness”.
“The way it looks, I don’t see it being reversed any time soon,” he told defenceWeb, adding “people in uniform and even ministers shouldn’t be blamed”.

“If you do not get the funding to maintain equipment and train properly, that is the inevitable result. Look at the Bundeswehr for a similar situation – a few years ago the SANDF had higher availability of aircraft, ships and combat vehicles than the Germans who cut defence funding since the end of the Cold War with no thought to the outcome. They have now been caught flat-footed, as has South Africa with the situation in Mozambique.
“It does not help to keep harping on head count or the number of generals and admirals – the SANDF cannot shed enough posts to make a difference without massive funding for severance packages and without suffering a serious loss of both capability and capacity.
“While the top structure and supporting elements are clearly over-sized and over-ranked, the combat services are not wildly out of line with other armed forces.
“Nor does it help to blame National Treasury – obtuse though they undoubtedly are – because the blame rests squarely with the Cabinet and the President as Commander-in-Chief. They are responsible for deciding what level of defence capability the country should have and can afford and then either providing funding or accepting the risk.

“Instead they pretend South Africa is a regional power and provide funding at border guard levels. The result is what we see and the result is further seen in the casualties of Bangui and the present inability to respond effectively to the situation in northern Mozambique, not to mention the inability to patrol our waters and police our airspace.”

QuietMynd:

To think one muppet said the little success sandf record in the early stage of operation in Mozambique beat that of the Nigerian military 10years war on terror hands down.
Delusion should be added as prefix to most South Africans name.
It runs in their blood, I ve seen it all on social media and there is nothing anyone can say to convince me.

jl115:
But you have yet to defeat BH.....