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It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 5:10pm On Aug 06, 2013
Undoubtedly the saying that no knowledge is wasted appears axiomatic and arguably sacrosanct.
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In his book ''Think Big'', (pp. 200-212) Ben Carson argues that you never can know what you will be doing fifteen years from now hence one should grab every available knowledge.
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He cited an incident where he was before an interviewer who mentioned en passe that he had heard about a concert and he also quipped that he too had heard about it which visibly left the interviewer surprised and they then started discussing classical music..
He contends that that knowlege of classical music was instrumental in his success in that interview.
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MY OPINION
Methinks that having or acquiring some knowledge is sheer and utter waste of scarce time and resources.
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For example, I don't see how the knowledge of how to prepare a cake or sew clothes would have a significant bearing on my life if I were a lawyer. This is truer given that I may never get the time to come and be sewing clothes or making cakes for either myself or family.
Even if I would get to use them in future, wouldn't it be once in a blue moon as in Ben Carson's case.
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In high school, I was very good at the use of Pitman Shorthand. An aeon has elapsed since I left junior secondary, and I have never got to use not even a vestige of the knowledge I acquired in that subject.
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Again, acquiring some of this otiose and apparently irrelevant knowledge may be at the expense of knowledge which would have been more apt and handy. In other words, you may be wasting time acquiring knowledge that has not even a modicum bearing on your life or knowledge you may never get to use due to your discipline.
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At any rate, I suggest that it would be stellar to have a smattering of many things.
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Your methodical views are welcome!

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 7:08pm On Aug 06, 2013
Gaining knowledge

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Saecula: 9:25pm On Aug 06, 2013
Thumbs up@ op
pithily expressed. And I agree with you
I think it is better to gain more knowledge that will be useful.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by duality(m): 10:12pm On Aug 06, 2013
@ op, You seem to be intelligent but the the following never occurred to you

- "Applied Knowledge" and
- " Transferable skills"

Research about these two and reread what you wrote.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 11:23am On Aug 07, 2013
duality: @ op, You seem to be intelligent but the the following never occurred to you

- "Applied Knowledge" and
- " Transferable skills"

Research about these two and reread what you wrote.
Please elucidate more on what you mean because I can't see a nexus

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by SaintChukz(m): 12:57pm On Aug 07, 2013
@ Op...i think in one full swoop you have succeeded in contrasting your own opinion in the initial post. In the opening line you opined that -no knowledge is wasted appears to you as axiomatic and as arguably sacrosanct, and in your last line statement you then went on to say that it would be stellar to have a "smattering" of many things. Now, with emphasis on the word "smattering", i'm trying hard to figure out how you would have done that if no single amount of time was put into it to gather the little knowledge you termed "smattering". Mind you the knowledge of a thing doesn't have to be acquired in full for you to term it actual knowledge. You also opined that having a particular knowledge of a thing that has no modicum or bearing on what the future tends to hold for you is sheer waste of time because you may never get to use it. I would say you were wrong there in that assertion because, how would you actually get to know what lies ahead of you when you haven't even gotten there? Or do you have a foreseer gift of telling what the future will bring? In my own candid opinion, i would rather opine that no knowledge is actually wasted until it is left unused. It has to be so because you never can tell when that little "survival skill" you garnered at one time or the other would become very handy to you at a critical point in your life, so i would rather not dismiss any knowledge no matter how irrelevant it may seem at a particular time on the premise that it is never going to be useful to me, when i know we all live in a constantly dynamic world. Finally, i think it is best to make myself feel "important" at any particular stage in life rather than feel "impotent" at a near unforeseeable stage in the future.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Insanity(m): 8:47pm On Aug 07, 2013
Saint Chukz: @ Op...i think in one full swoop you have succeeded in contrasting your own opinion in the initial post. In the opening line you opined that -no knowledge is wasted appears to you as axiomatic and as arguably sacrosanct, and in your last line statement you then went on to say that it would be stellar to have a "smattering" of many things. Now, with emphasis on the word "smattering", i'm trying hard to figure out how you would have done that if no single amount of time was put into it to gather the little knowledge you termed "smattering". Mind you the knowledge of a thing doesn't have to be acquired in full for you to term it actual knowledge. You also opined that having a particular knowledge of a thing that has no modicum or bearing on what the future tends to hold for you is sheer waste of time because you may never get to use it. I would say you were wrong there in that assertion because, how would you actually get to know what lies ahead of you when you haven't even gotten there? Or do you have a foreseer gift of telling what the future will bring? In my own candid opinion, i would rather opine that no knowledge is actually wasted until it is left unused. It has to be so because you never can tell when that little "survival skill" you garnered at one time or the other would become very handy to you at a critical point in your life, so i would rather not dismiss any knowledge no matter how irrelevant it may seem at a particular time on the premise that it is never going to be useful to me, when i know we all live in a constantly dynamic world. Finally, i think it is best to make myself feel "important" at any particular stage in life rather than feel "impotent" at a near unforeseeable stage in the future.

Wow! What a post.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 8:23am On Aug 08, 2013
Saint Chukz: @ Op...i think in one full swoop you have succeeded in contrasting your own opinion in the initial post. In the opening line you opined that -no knowledge is wasted appears to you as axiomatic and as arguably sacrosanct, and in your last line statement you then went on to say that it would be stellar to have a "smattering" of many things.
Nice to have you around Saintz.
That something 'appears' to be something doesnt mean that it is so. So there is no contradiction when I said that is appears axiomatic and sacrosanct. Ok?
Coming back...
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by SaintChukz(m): 5:38pm On Aug 08, 2013
Serendipity:
Nice to have you around Saintz.
That something 'appears' to be something doesnt mean that it is so. So there is no contradiction when I said that is appears axiomatic and sacrosanct. Ok?
Coming back...
Ok...Waiting to see what you want to unveil this time.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by adedayor08(m): 8:02pm On Aug 08, 2013
using the lawyer's case as a typical example;
as a lawyer, you need evidence to win cases in the court. Imagine in a murder case where bromate is found on the corpe that could be the missing piece of puzzle to uncover the whole truth. Fink carefully bro

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:39am On Aug 09, 2013
Saint Chukz: Now, with emphasis on the word "smattering", i'm trying hard to figure out how you would have done that if no single amount of time was put into it to gather the little knowledge you termed "smattering". Mind you the knowledge of a thing doesn't have to be acquired in full for you to term it actual knowledge. You also opined that having a particular knowledge of a thing that has no modicum or bearing on what the future tends to hold for you is sheer waste of time because you may never get to use it. I would say you were wrong there in that assertion because, how would you actually get to know what lies ahead of you when you haven't even gotten there? Or do you have a foreseer gift of telling what the future will bring? In my own candid opinion, i would rather opine that no knowledge is actually wasted until it is left unused. It has to be so because you never can tell when that little "survival skill" you garnered at one time or the other would become very handy to you at a critical point in your life, so i would rather not dismiss any knowledge no matter how irrelevant it may seem at a particular time on the premise that it is never going to be useful to me, when i know we all live in a constantly dynamic world. Finally, i think it is best to make myself feel "important" at any particular stage in life rather than feel "impotent" at a near unforeseeable stage in the future.
It becomes foolhardiness and unbecoming when we are unreasonably obstinate to the extent that we fail to admit the truth.
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I stated unequivocally, that one had better acquire knowledge that there is high possibility of one using. In everything there is an opportunity cost, the opportunity cost of acquiring the knowledge of Spanish is that knowledge of Hausa language I would have acquired which will now be forfeited.
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Now, there is a possibility that I will get to use the knowledge of Spanish, but the possibility is lesser than that of Hausa given that If would go abroad, definitely, it wouldnt be to a Spanish country. Or what's the possibility of my serving as an interpreter?
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THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE ARE: the possibility of using the knowledge.

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At certain point those days, I wanted to buy a Piano and then get a trainer, but on mature reflection, it became clear, that the possibility of my using that is infinitesimal and that it would be more politic to choose something that will have bearing on my life. And I did.
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It is better to use my time judiciously in acqisition of knowledge that use it in nugatory things.
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Now how do you reconcile the example of Pitman Shorthand that I cited with your rejoinder?

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:40am On Aug 09, 2013
Saint Chukz: Ok...Waiting to see what you want to unveil this time.
Look up

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:40am On Aug 09, 2013
Serendipity:
Please elucidate more on what you mean because I can't see a nexus
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by SaintChukz(m): 2:28pm On Aug 09, 2013
Serendipity:
It becomes foolhardiness and unbecoming when we are unreasonably obstinate to the extent that we fail to admit the truth.
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I stated unequivocally, that one had better acquire knowledge that there is high possibility of one using. In everything there is an opportunity cost, the opportunity cost of acquiring the knowledge of Spanish is that knowledge of Hausa language I would have acquired which will now be forfeited.
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Now, there is a possibility that I will get to use the knowledge of Spanish, but the possibility is lesser than that of Hausa given that If would go abroad, definitely, it wouldnt be to a Spanish country. Or what's the possibility of my serving as an interpreter?
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THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE ARE: the possibility of using the knowledge.

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At certain point those days, I wanted to buy a Piano and then get a trainer, but on mature reflection, it became clear, that the possibility of my using that is infinitesimal and that it would be more politic to choose something that will have bearing on my life. And I did.
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It is better to use my time judiciously in acqisition of knowledge that use it in nugatory things.
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Now how do you reconcile the example of Pitman Shorthand that I cited with your rejoinder?
Do you know it is sheer arrogance to want to force your own beliefs and opinion on others? Please define truth for me? What is truth to you may not necessarily be the universal truth to others. Stop for a minute and try to view the world through the eyes of others with recourse to your own views. On the pitman shorthand example you cited, what if you are appointed tomorrow to a position in government circles that would require the use of such a skill or is that not a possibility as well? Again citing the example of the relevance of the spanish language vis-a-vis the Hausa language doesn't even hold a bearing on this discussion for the following reasons ; (1) The Spanish language was propagated by Missionaries, Merchants and Slave masters from the Spanish to several other nations where they traded centuries ago hence the wide coverage of the language, was the hausa language propagated in a such manner? (2.) if you are an indigent hausa born, would you require going through extra-mural lessons to learn it? It is with the coming of globalization that we are now beginning to see the need to learn foreign languages, i once watched a feature on tv where a european man living in Northern Nigeria could speak not only hausa language but also the native indigent language of the people he was living amongst. So it should be same for you, if you will be going abroad, you can always learn the language when you get there, but then when you get back home and you no longer have a need of that language you learnt, would you call it a waste of knowledge? When it wasn't during the period you needed it, so why should it become a waste now that you don't need it? In countries like America and Canada that are predominantly english speaking, do you know that the knowledge of the spanish language would still be an invaluable asset to you, because as far as i know there are still a sizable number of spanish speaking communities in those countries. If truth is to come from only one source, what then is the credibility of such truth when it hasn't been tested by others?

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by SaintChukz(m): 2:54pm On Aug 09, 2013
adedayor08: using the lawyer's case as a typical example;
as a lawyer, you need evidence to win cases in the court. Imagine in a murder case where bromate is found on the corpe that could be the missing piece of puzzle to uncover the whole truth. Fink carefully bro
^ Please provide your answers to this MAN'S query.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 7:38pm On Aug 09, 2013
adedayor08: using the lawyer's case as a typical example;
as a lawyer, you need evidence to win cases in the court. Imagine in a murder case where bromate is found on the corpe that could be the missing piece of puzzle to uncover the whole truth. Fink carefully bro
I'm afraid, in such cases, expert evidence will be used.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 7:40pm On Aug 09, 2013
Saint Chukz: ^ Please provide your answers to this MAN'S query.
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 8:14pm On Aug 09, 2013
Saint Chukz: Do you know it is sheer arrogance to want to force your own beliefs and opinion on others? Please define truth for me? What is truth to you may not necessary be the universal truth to others. Stop for a minute and try to view the world through the eyes of others with recourse to your own views. On the pitman shorthand example you cited, what if you are appointed tomorrow to a position in government circles that would require the use of such a skill or is that not a possibility as well? Again citing the example of the relevance of the spanish language vis-a-vis the Hausa language doesn't even hold a bearing on this discussion for the following reasons ; (1) The Spanish language was propagated by Missionaries, Merchants and Slave masters from the Spanish kingdom to several other nations where they traded centuries ago hence the wide coverage of the language, was the hausa language propagated in a such manner? (2.) if you are an indigent hausa born, would you require going through extra-mural lessons to learn it? It is with the coming of globalization that we are now beginning to see the need to learn foreign languages, i once watched a feature on tv where a european man living in Northern Nigeria could speak not only hausa language but also the native indigent language of the people he was living amongst. So it should be same for you, if you will be going abroad, you can always learn the language when you get there, but then when you get back home and you no longer have a need of that language you learnt, would you call it a waste of knowledge? When it wasn't during the period you needed it, so why should it become a waste now that you don't need it? In countries like America and Canada that are predominantly english speaking, do you know that the knowledge of the spanish language would still be an invaluable asset to you, because as far as i know there are still a sizable number of spanish speaking communities in those countries. If truth is to come from only one source, what then is the credibility of such truth when it hasn't been tested by others?

Without sounding immodest or denigrating anybody, I think your problem is selective perception, you have chosen what you want to believe, regrettably.
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You went on the voyage of adventure when quoted out of context my analogy with Spanish and Hausa languages--- kindly go and twig what I stated which is as clear as day. Whether it was propagated by whoever is non sequitur and not the message I tried to convey.
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With regard to the Pitman Shorthand example, you said that I could be appointed to a government position which could require such skill; a riposte I find laughable. I posited that the operative words are THE RATE OF INCIDENCE OR POSSIBILITY.
Now, how many government positions could require one to make use of Pitman shorthand?
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Your bringing in truth here can as best be termed inapt and incongrous...

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 7:34am On Aug 15, 2013
Serendipity: Gaining knowledge
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Dereformer(m): 4:55pm On Aug 15, 2013
@ all above me;

Too much grammar!

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 6:09pm On Aug 17, 2013
Dereformer: @ all above me;

Too much grammar!
LOL

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 4:38pm On Aug 28, 2013
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Nobody: 11:57pm On Aug 29, 2013
Serendipity: www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv201.shtml
yeah serendipity is correct. in learning the concept of opportunity cost is unconsciously applied. this is why an individual should carefully choose what to learn and master them effectively. one cannot afford to attempt knowing lot of things at once. for example the lawyer or the programmer cannot learn all the aspects of law and programs respectively.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:01am On Sep 01, 2013
Aggrippa:
yeah serendipity is correct. in learning the concept of opportunity cost is unconsciously applied. this is why an individual should carefully choose what to learn and master them effectively. one cannot afford to attempt knowing lot of things at once. for example the lawyer or the programmer cannot learn all the aspects of law and programs respectively.
Brill
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by AjanleKoko: 12:02pm On Sep 01, 2013
There is some sense in the OP's postulations, if you examine the premises carefully.

Even in the narrow school system, a lot of knowledge is wasted or lost. The good thing is, these days of pervasive information has made it feasible to learn on demand. So I could quickly pick up rudimentary Spanish or learn how to bake a cake on Coursera when I need to.

No point filling one's head with useless information, when you can spend that time further honing your skills in the specific area of interest. If you're a baker, spend most of your time baking, or doing stuff that will enhance your baking skills. Additional time spent learning the ballet will serve you little.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by GoodBoi1(m): 2:45pm On Sep 01, 2013
Alright, now let us 'sheer' the cake.
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by esere826: 4:24pm On Sep 01, 2013
AjanleKoko: ..............The good thing is, these days of pervasive information has made it feasible to learn on demand. So I could quickly pick up rudimentary Spanish or learn how to bake a cake on Coursera when I need to.

No point filling one's head with useless information, when you can spend that time further honing your skills in the specific area of interest. If you're a baker, spend most of your time baking, or doing stuff that will enhance your baking skills. Additional time spent learning the ballet will serve you little.

LEAN MANAGEMENT and JUST-IN-TIME approach to learning uhn??
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by since1914(m): 5:27pm On Sep 01, 2013
O.P., I agree with you 200 per cent! I think this is a general problem around the world today. People hear a dictum or maxim and then the next thing is to start using it carelessly. In my opinion, the question we should have asked is... What is the context in which the words (no knowledge is wasted) were first spoken?

This is because there are several notorious maxims like the one above, being daily bandied around without having any correlation to the context in which they were first used. It is also important to note that just because these maxims are been used every day and almost by everyone for decades doesn't in any way make them logical.

If you were in the Architecture and Design industry you probably would have also heard notorious maxims like "Form Follows Function". This has even used by Design professors around the world for well over Ninety years now. In the course of my research, I found so many holes in that maxim. First the phrase was misquoted and secondly the context in which it was used then, is difficult to align with how it is been used today. In fact as part of a larger body of work, I have only recently written a 5000 word polemics on the irrelevance of this same maxim- Form follow Function.

So in essence, with regards to the maxim- No knowledge is wasted, we must look for the context in which it was first spoken before ascribing any meaning to it. But on its face-value, it think it is absolute nonsense. For instance, in the early days of the craze for Oracle, CCNA and other computer Certifications, I had associates who graduated as Civil Engineers and while they were waiting to go for service and even while job-hunting, enrolled for and took a handful of these certifications. I was disgusted then because I knew, they will never be able to use them; and till this day they have never used those certifications and will never use them because they are full time Civil Engineers. Imagine if they had used half of the resources and time they had then to enroll for classes on Building Information Modelling programs like Revit Architecture, Bentley etc, won't they be standing well above their peers in the industry today?

That said, I still think it is good for people to casually study about different subjects just for the sake of general knowledge, without expecting any gratification on account of this. The mere knowledge they have acquired in the process should be enough gratification.

The problem we usually have is when people aggressively veer off their professional mark to go speculate in other parallel professional terrains acquiring knowledge they don't need, wasting time they don't have.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by GoodBoi1(m): 6:01pm On Sep 01, 2013
Okay.. what about knowledge of FIRST AID?
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 8:59pm On Sep 01, 2013
since_1914: O.P., I agree with you 200 per cent! I think this is a general problem around the world today. People hear a dictum or maxim and then the next thing is to start using it carelessly. In my opinion, the question we should have asked is... What is the context in which the words (no knowledge is wasted) were first spoken?

This is because there are several notorious maxims like the one above, being daily bandied around without having any correlation to the context in which they were first used. It is also important to note that just because these maxims are been used every day and almost by everyone for decades doesn't in any way make them logical.

If you were in the Architecture and Design industry you probably would have also heard notorious maxims like "Form Follows Function". This has even used by Design professors around the world for well over Ninety years now. In the course of my research, I found so many holes in that maxim. First the phrase was misquoted and secondly the context in which it was used then, is difficult to align with how it is been used today. In fact as part of a larger body of work, I have only recently written a 5000 word polemics on the irrelevance of this same maxim- Form follow Function.

So in essence, with regards to the maxim- No knowledge is wasted, we must look for the context in which it was first spoken before ascribing any meaning to it. But on its face-value, it think it is absolute nonsense. For instance, in the early days of the craze for Oracle, CCNA and other computer Certifications, I had associates who graduated as Civil Engineers and while they were waiting to go for service and even while job-hunting, enrolled for and took a handful of these certifications. I was disgusted then because I knew, they will never be able to use them; and till this day they have never used those certifications and will never use them because they are full time Civil Engineers. Imagine if they had used half of the resources and time they had then to enroll for classes on Building Information Modelling programs like Revit Architecture, Bentley etc, won't they be standing well above their peers in the industry today?

That said, I still think it is good for people to casually study about different subjects just for the sake of general knowledge, without expecting any gratification on account of this. The mere knowledge they have acquired in the process should be enough gratification.

The problem we usually have is when people aggressively veer off their professional mark to go speculate in another parallel professional terrains acquiring knowledge they don't need.
Bonzer, didactic diverging, compelling, incisive and pithily expressed.

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Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:00pm On Sep 01, 2013
AjanleKoko: There is some sense in the OP's postulations, if you examine the premises carefully.

Even in the narrow school system, a lot of knowledge is wasted or lost. The good thing is, these days of pervasive information has made it feasible to learn on demand. So I could quickly pick up rudimentary Spanish or learn how to bake a cake on Coursera when I need to.

No point filling one's head with useless information, when you can spend that time further honing your skills in the specific area of interest. If you're a baker, spend most of your time baking, or doing stuff that will enhance your baking skills. Additional time spent learning the ballet will serve you little.
Chairman, nice to hear such comments from you. Nothing could have been truer
Re: It Is A Fallacy That No Knowledge Is a Wasted one by Serendipity: 9:01pm On Sep 01, 2013
esere826:

LEAN MANAGEMENT and JUST-IN-TIME approach to learning uhn??
What?

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