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Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by SaintChukz(m): 3:50pm On Sep 11, 2013
carr101:

A real woman by being brainless instead of reading and addressing issues grin guess u too make a good couple! A brainless lady and an arrogant cave man undecided
I guess you are trying to introduce humor into this now cos you know you already goofed in that write-up. Look trying to interpret all that nonsense (ok a little bit of sense though) you wrote there your own way won't do you any good. You can't change the world from that perspective, even if you were to attempt it, the forces against it will overwhelm you. Just beat it, there is no way you can win this argument and it is not a must you get married oh because it is a Man's world and the status quo ain't changing soon till thy kingdom come. If i'm an arrogant caveman...i guess that makes you what......erm...let me guess a -----K---- fill it in yourself?
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nobody: 5:53pm On Sep 11, 2013
carr101:

A real woman by being brainless instead of reading and addressing issues grin guess u too make a good couple! A brainless lady and an arrogant cave man undecided
I read the first point and didn't even finish the second when I realized the post is aimed at causing divisions in homes and in the church of God. It's just here to cause unnecessary arguments. It is absolutely useless to a real Christian.

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Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nobody: 6:18pm On Sep 11, 2013
Saint Chukz: I guess you are trying to introduce humor into this now cos you know you already goofed in that write-up. Look trying to interpret all that nonsense (ok a little bit of sense though) you wrote there your own way won't do you any good. You can't change the world from that perspective, even if you were to attempt it, the forces against it will overwhelm you. Just beat it, there is no way you can win this argument and it is not a must you get married oh because it is a Man's world and the status quo ain't changing soon till thy kingdom come. If i'm an arrogant caveman...i guess that makes you what......erm...let me guess a -----K---- fill it in yourself?

Still an arrogant caveman. All this gibberish still has nothing to do with my post smiley learn to read, its easy.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nobody: 6:22pm On Sep 11, 2013
Vanneni: I read the first point and didn't even finish the second when I realized the post is aimed at causing divisions in homes and in the church of God. It's just here to cause unnecessary arguments. It is absolutely useless to a real Christian.

Ok, ur relevant now, satisfied?? U still didn't get the message.
Thanks smiley
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nmeri17: 7:42pm On Sep 11, 2013
All these new generation pastors will just tell u they had so so and so revelation and u will believe. Its owky for u sha but my problem is that you're bringin it to nairaland to mislead the 'blind' and 'half blind'.


The bible has made express statements telling u what it wants u to do and what not to do. If u start giving it yo own interpretation and meanin, on judgement day u will tell God whether u were there when He wrote the bible
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Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nobody: 8:00pm On Sep 11, 2013
Nmeri17: All these new generation pastors will just tell u they had so so and so revelation and u will believe. Its owky for u sha but my problem is that you're bringin it to nairaland to mislead the 'blind' and 'half blind'.


The bible has made express statements telling u what it wants u to do and what not to do. If u start giving it yo own interpretation and meanin, on judgement day u will tell God whether u were there when He wrote the bible
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He didn't write the bible smiley
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by roaringlamb01(m): 11:49pm On Sep 11, 2013
Vanneni: I read the first point and didn't even finish the second when I realized the post is aimed at causing divisions in homes and in the church of God. It's just here to cause unnecessary arguments. It is absolutely useless to a real Christian.

Yes ma'am, my point exactly.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by roaringlamb01(m): 11:53pm On Sep 11, 2013
carr101:

He didn't write the bible smiley

Smh... Why r u doing this? *d funny thing is my heart is drawn to you*
You don't need all these. Plus, He inspired holy prophets to write it.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Solozzo(m): 10:42pm On Sep 13, 2013
As clearly indicated by Yomidee(see post-bove) the bible's view of women 's status reflects that of the jews which to say the least is archaic and has no place in true Christianity whose core teaching is that of a heavenly father of love who created all humankind equal and equally supports good and bad people and appeals to our conscience and free will and reasoning to know our true source - ie from the Father and Christ the child of humankind came to show the way to the father. Christ said he who wants wants to be first should be last.

My view is that men and women are mates that complement each other having their own uniques strength and weaknesses. Each has an equal level of divinity in them. Any religion that preaches man's superiority over woman is not of Christ and the Father but of arrogant cavemen.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Solozzo(m): 10:51pm On Sep 13, 2013
roaringlamb01:

Smh... Why r u doing this? *d funny thing is my heart is drawn to you*
You don't need all these. Plus, He inspired holy prophets to write it.

If he inspired people to write things that repress women, then YHWH is not the true God that christ preached. He is definitely arrogant, vengeful and prejudiced. That's why Christ came to reveal the Heavenly Father who is incorruptible, perfect, eternal, full of grace and love.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by anukulapo: 11:47am On Sep 14, 2013
Amaaskia:

And what is wrong with it?

Nothing is wrong with feminism except that it will become another version of the "evil" the feminist are trying to conquer. Then you will understand what it means for the "oppressed" to be in power. It won't be about correction anymore,it will be VENGEANCE.

#my opinion#
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by roaringlamb01(m): 6:44pm On Sep 14, 2013
Solozzo:

If he inspired people to write things that repress women, then YHWH is not the true God that christ preached. He is definitely arrogant, vengeful and prejudiced. That's why Christ came to reveal the Heavenly Father who is incorruptible, perfect, eternal, full of grace and love.

congratulations... bros... u have spoken.
you have no point... where did He teach that they should REPRESS women exactly? I don't even get your point...
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by oraelosikenny: 1:47am On Dec 04, 2013
plaetton:

Surely you are entitled to your opinion.
I have read it twice and still trying to figure what it has to do with my own post.

You could have made your own post without refering to mine.
You made no attempt to point out where I erred in order to repudiate or contradict my points.
You were just looking for an excuse to bash men.
It's a free world.

I do not see where my post attacked the op.
Even though it was addressed to the op, I was just giving my own opinion like everyone else.

If you think my post agrees with the op's post, then why are you attacking me? shocked

I wish you could point out and correct the falsehoods in my post.

Having said that, I should just move on, but then again, you made so many unforgivable falshoods in your post that it would be negligent to let them pass without a through repudiation.

For your information, there is no civilization in history where there were np difference between leaders and the led.
And for the ill-educated mind, Africa is not backwards because of our Family structures and heirachy.
That is a very silly assertion from a half-baked mind.

In fact, our family structures is our greatest source of strength and remains our only salvation for self-renewal and identity.

And also, for your selective amnesia or rather arrogant ignorance, African is also not unique in the social units where the man is at the head.
Even the Europeans, up until the last few decades had rigid male dominated social units, and many European countries still do.

And what would you say of the male dominated societies of the Asians or the Arabs, even the jews?

I can make a very strong argument that the modern ambiguation of gender-specific roles in the family is 100% responsible for the breakdown in the family unit, values and social cohesion. Your European and American foster nations have an astronomically high incidences of divorce and fragmented family units. They have even gone as far redefining the institution of marriage.

So what nonsense are you talking about?.

So please, stop talking out of complex ignorance(the worst type there is) and educate yourself properly.

In every ship, there must be a captain. In any army there must be a commander. In any society or organization there must be a hierachy of leadership.
Why should the family unit be an exception?

I am by no means a male chauvanist.
My point is that anyone, man or woman who neglects or decides to abdicate their natural gender-specific roles will suffer conflict and breakdown in the family unit.
Period.

What exactly are the natural gender specific roles?

In which exact book or law or credo or saying were they defined?

And for each of the roles you identify, please tell us exactly how and why they are gender specific to their linked gender?

Thank you
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by oraelosikenny: 2:06am On Dec 04, 2013
ifeness:

Do you know the origin of the word christian? The followers of Serapis who's story was later turned to Jesus by the council of nicea in 343BC. How can I be associated with such a group?

Were you there live at the council meeting? Did you see them live as they took the decision?

Earlier on you said we can't prove Jesus. How can you prove your theories?

Our Lord and his Word came from a book, whose authors we did not witness live. True.

Where did your theories come from? Not also books, scrolls and parchments? Were you also there live when those were written? So how are you sure they weren't faked?

You want to claim archeological evidence? Carbon dating? What about the tomb of Jesus in isreal that has been confirmed by carbon dating? What about peter's house, that has been discovered and dated? If you say those and their carbon dates were faked, who says the pyramids and the kings tombs and the heiroglyphic hand writings and their carbon dates weren't faked?

Now how good were your tomes and books and writings in predicitng future events? Were they half as accurate and as linked and organised as the bible? How well did any of your books predict the fall of jerusalem in AD 70 for instance? Or the Noah flood? Or the fall of tyre and sidon to the macedonian empire? How many of them correctly predicted the coming together of the new isreal nation, which occurred after world war two? How many of them clearly predicted the current astronomical rise in natural disasters? Do you want to mention nastrodamus because of his lucky prediction of the world trade center bombings? Do your research well again. You'll find he got the dates all wrong. You'll find that he wasn't even a trained astrologer in his time, and you'll find in his time he was one of the least accurate when it came to fortelling.


Finally, check the date of most of the writings you follow. They come AFTER the dates of the books of the bible, NOT before. We didn't 'borrow' your theories and stories. You 'borrowed' ours.

If you want to doubt that last statement, ask your gurus and wise men and socerers why they keep using the bible in ther work, and referencing its verses. Ask them.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by dinachi(m): 7:38pm On Dec 05, 2013
@OP why are you bothered? Simple. Don't marry! grin.
Submission and the rest of them are for CHRISTIANS who want to marry.
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by Nobody: 9:39pm On Dec 05, 2013
Kamsy10: Normally I don't criticize churches, I just walk away from a church when I hear sermons that are hypocritical and certainly meant for selfish interests.
People that criticize the catholic church apparently dont know jack about the catholic church.
For me I am a catholic who once left the faith and joined other churches to see if there's a better church.Note I was a devoted worker in each church I went but after hearing and learning the stuff some of those pastors preach, MEHN, I quietly went back to the catholic faith. Catholic might have some shortcomings but it's unrivalled compared to the churches I've been to. I'm so happy I retraced my steps.

Here are some of the lies you'll hear from the pulpit:



1. Tithe/offering will take you to heaven since we live in the new testament now and God keeps no record of sins. Therefore tithe/offering is what really matters now.
(Meanwhile tithing was ONLY mentioned in the old testament)
2. If you need a job, car, child etc and you're not tithing, God will not bless you. (False)
(Haba. Even pro.sti.tutes get pregnant and have children.Many CEOs don't even go to church not to talk of tithe.Rom9:15 says 'I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,...etc. Matt 7:7 says ask and you shall receive. Check with the richest men in the world. Again pastors have to chose which one to emphasize and which ones not to. I don't blame them sha)

3. If you tithe, you cant be sick, loose your job, get into an accident or get robbed.
(So why do they run to the bank immediately after collecting tithes and offerings to avoid robbery. And they travel oversees for medical checkups, and fly jets and move around with heavy security guards)

4. God asked me to do this, God asked me to do that . Even to the point that God asked them to divorce and marry another one.
(1cor 6:9 says no adulterer shall see the kingdom of God. God has asked you to marry and divorce 2times and heading for the third one)

5. We now live in the new testament, the old testament doesn't count anymore. so dress however you like, men perm your hair if you like to church, youths can fornicate and it doesn't count, girls can come to church naked if it makes them comfortable, just do whatever you like, since Christ has died, you don't have any problem. We now live under grace.
(ok. so why is tithe the center of the sermon everyday knowing that tithe was only mentioned in the old testament. The funny part is the same pastors will say you should not add or remove from the word of God)

6. We are the true Christians, we're emulating Christ, we're Christ-like cos we're born again.
(ok. so why is this rule not applicable to the jet flying pastors. Last time I checked, Christ didn't have a private jet and he drove those who were turning the church into a money making venture but alas our pastors will be identifying with politicians so they too can get a brown envelope. Instead of preaching to them to help create employment for the jobless youths in the church, they simply shower prayers for them and collect offering. Doesn't sound like what the Christ I know will do)

7. Christ was very rich and he wore an expensive robe that is why they cast lots on his robe to decide who should have it.
(ok. Even if the robe was expensive, so your definition of a rich man is a person who has one expensive robe. Why fabricating lies such as these against Christ just to justify the acquisition of an aircraft.

8. We need jets cos we're spreading the gospel to china,japan,america etc
(How come all your pastors in those countries are not able to run the branches for you and then report to you. I guess you're the only one called by God. Nothing is wrong with visting once in a while. Why travelling there every week or month as the case may be or are you worried about them not giving you proper account of the money they're collecting.
Also I used to think they were actually converting the indigenes of those countries, but I discovered that in most of those churches,its mostly their tribal people that actually worship there. In other words,you'll only find only Africans there. Note: I've been to a few countries,and they've bn the same so far)


9.Catholics are doing confessions, blessing holy water, burning incense, worshipping images, and giving holy communion, therefore they are hell bound.
(Why do they have counseling sessions on a particular day of the week where the member tells them about his past life and and how they want God to forgive them and they want to turn a new live and They pray for him/her. Sorry that is not confession, it is called counseling. Did I mention that they carry the stickers of their pastor and his family on their cars, pictures in their homes, offices EVEN ON THEIR BIBLES. Did I mention that they now bless and give holy communion. Confirm from redeemed and winners chapel.
Also they bless handkerchiefs and carry them around like juju or otumokpor

10. God told me to start my own church that's why I started this church
( No problem but why do you become a stumbling block when one of your pastors receives the same vision and wants to start his own. Some even go as far as cursing the person. )



My point is "the last day will be full of surprises but I pray that God will have mercy on all of us" AMEN
Re: Ten Lies The Church Tells Women by POPEII: 11:36am On Dec 15, 2013
zika1: Op tnk u very much 4 dis. Tnk God deres some dat tinks like me here. All those saying tinz like paul said dis abi he said dat, abeg u guyz shld park well. I wonder y u guyz read d bible in one way. Ooo becos u re guyz anytin u hear dat enpowers u is ryt abi? Pls u shld really take time 2 study the bible very well. As I hv said b4 nd will say again I really dnt like reading d books paul wrote becos I tink the guy ws confused. He kept contradicting his own words. Pls who does that? U shld take time and read d books he wrote and be logical. Nd pls only pple wit brainz nt jst anyhow pple who will end up attacking me instead of analysin tinz
Jesus Christ, so the bible is confused? May God forgive you and preserve us from evil like u

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