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Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by GHPATRIOT(m): 4:10pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman: How do you want the Kenyans to handle it? What is the difference between kenya's method and the Indian(india is not an African country) method? This is not Hollywood where the chief negotiator volunteers to sit with the terrorists and negotiate demands. These guys(al-shabab) do not intend coming out alive. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Jakumo(m): 4:11pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Happywoman: Ok we have heard ur point loud and clear encyclopediaSagamitica ? The situation is live and going on as we type . Oya, Encyclopedia Sagamitica, respond to this simple request with immediate effect and alacrity. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Sagaman: 4:14pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Happywoman: I am not a security expert. But my common sense would tell me that (and I am writing this inchoately): - First get a master plan of the building. - Sweep it room by room, floor by floor and even all the ventilation systems to see if there is anyone hiding there or injured to rescue. And to find where the terrorists are. - Once you know the locations in the building the terrorists are, secure it and cordon it with your armed officers without engaging in a fight. - Then start negotiating but be ready to go in if you hear one shot. - Negotiators can possibly help you get at least any kid hostage out. |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by sCun: 4:14pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman:I am still waiting for you to suggest a soulution to this stand-off now. Are you waiting for them to take action then you look for faults? Typical armchair critic. People are living a real life and being useful to their society (like the security operatives), all you do is argue over the internet 24/7 claiming to be intelligent. SMH 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Horus(m): 4:14pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Shoppers running out as a shooting took place at Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by 50calibre(m): 4:14pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
babestella: Simple solution, use sleeping gas in the mall to put everyone to sleep, then sort the people out with their IDs and other means of identification. My 1kobo solution. Not a safe option at all. this option was tried out in Russia few years ago when Chechnyan terrorist stormed a theatre, it didnt end too well First! To use a sleeping gas, you need access to the vents, then you need to get the right amount to knock people out but not kill them. You also have to get the right quantity sufficient to knock the terrorist out quick enough before they realise they are being drugged else they execute every hostage. Then you need to have the anti-dote handy, so as soon the operation is over, the reviving begins A very tricky balance, one I doubt any African country can deal with. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by iHustle(m): 4:16pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Islamists also murdered over 70 Christians in Pakistan today. I don't think there has ever been a day when Muslims do not kill others or each other since the advent of Islam. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by sCun: 4:17pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman:The terrorist posted on their twitter account that negotiation is out of the question. As for sweeping the mall room by room, what will the terrorists be doing while that happens? Isn't that putting the lives of the hostages in danger?What if they aren't just confined to one room? Next suggestion please, MR Intelligent. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Sagaman: 4:19pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Beey: I get what you mean,but perfection in such a situation is hard to attain when there are a million thoughts running through one's mind.The fact that he put his life at risk is more important than what he should have done & didn't do or what he wasn't supposed to do & he did.The fact that he went in to save lives is much more important,the rest are secondary. Correction: this is not about perfection. This is about being good. Good training gets your brain to handle the million thoughts in your mind. This why it shows these people are not trained. He put is life at risk is good, but it takes just a little sense and hardly no extra cost to be a million times better. Such failure to be a million times better is repeatedly exemplified by Africa operators. No wonder all Nigerian airways ALWAYS fail! GH PATRIOT: I don't know how Indians handled theirs. But what is your point? If Indians are hopeless it justifies Africans to be hopeless? |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Happywoman(f): 4:21pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Double post. |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Happywoman(f): 4:22pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman: As they say in Naija pidgin English "person wen dey use mouth drive motor ,no dey get accident" . Go figure. Kenya Stay Strong! God answers prayers! 7 Likes |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by achimotan(m): 4:28pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
cowards. why don't they attack military camps or bases instead of attacking defenceless civilians.God would judge and punish them all. @ patriot pls let it go |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by 50calibre(m): 4:28pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: Go away with your inanimate gods, I'd urinate on your gods 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:29pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
50calibre: Watch your mouth. Can you urinate on the Creator Force who is responsible for your very existence? Can you urinate on the God of wisdom and knowledge? |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by achimotan(m): 4:30pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
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Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Happywoman(f): 4:31pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
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Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by sCun: 4:32pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman:Your suggestion is useless. ''sweeping the rooms'' can put the lives of the hostages in greater danger and the terrorists aren't willing to negotiate. So you see, it isn't as easy as you think. It is always easier to criticise the the deed has been done. Just check out the kind of thrash you brought up as a suggestion. SMH profusely. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by roymary: 4:33pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
achimotan: cowards. why don't they attack military camps or bases instead of attacking defenceless civilians.God would judge and punish all of them. Bad idea! They get 20 Virgins each for that. Not 72. |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by sCun: 4:34pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
50calibre:Hahaha |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by Sagaman: 4:34pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Happywoman: No, you did not hit home. You just did not make sense. You ask me a question thinking I would get stuck but when I used just pure common sense to tell you what should happen next, you came up with you beer parlour arguments. Now can you hit home with something that meets the threshold of sensible? |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by pendo89(f): 4:37pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
IT SHALL BE WELL.I CONGRATULATE THE KENYAN PEOPLE FOR THE SUPPORT THEY HAVE SHOWN TOWARDS THE VICTIMS. LOTS OF DONATIONS AND BLOOD. CONGRATS TO THE SECURITY FORCES ,SO MANY WOULD HAVE PERISHED HAD THEY NOT STEPPED IN ON TIME,THEY ARE STILL ON SCENE. 59 DEAD,MANY INJURED, THE TERRORISTS ARE NOW CORNERED, SHAME ON THEM WE WILL NOT BE COWED BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS,KENYA GROWS STRONGER WITH EACH ATTACK. offering 'expert solutions' online is not helpful.The situation on the ground is deadly and the best team of local and foreign experts are doing their level best not to compromise the lives of the hostages. They know the tactics to employ. |
Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by ceejayluv(m): 4:38pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman:Talk of sweeping room by room. There's nothing you highlighted there I can't see being done.... (as for the building plan, they can only contact the owners of the building. Building plans don't appear magically.
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Re: Kenya Mall Under Attack From Islamic Terrorists (Pictures) by GHPATRIOT(m): 4:41pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sagaman: Sagaman: I only brought Indian into the equation because of your rant that Africans celeberate mediocrity. The indians had a similar situation when pakistan terrorists stormed a Hotel in Mumbai. What the kenyans are doing is what any commited security service in the world would do. You are just sad to see black people handling their affairs and not taking orders from white gays. |
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