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Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Katsumoto: 2:13pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: He had won the award before the Olympics. The stats don't support Mboma as a starter for his clubs. He joined Cagliari in 1998 and left for Parma in 2000. In two years, he played only 40 games for Cagliari. In a season, most starting strikers play at least 34-36. No doubt he was good in that period. But the point I am making, to counteract the point you made about Mikel, is that there have been players who weren't great for club and country but who won it. One can argue that the only guys who were critical for club and country were Yekini, Weah, Abedi, Drogba, Etoo, Yaya. Most of the past winners won on the basis of what they did for country. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by COOLDUN: 2:23pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: Big FOOOOL, let me put you clear even though I know that you recently escaped from the psychiatric hospital and went back to your smoking habit. Issa Hayatou and his Francophone is not singular they represent different nouns that was why I used plural word (are) so the bolded statement was beyond your comprehension as an educated illiterate you are. You exposed your STUPIDITY more online while trying to correct someone who is more educated and informed than you. I personally don't care about who wins it but i only want it to be worn on merit and not otherwise. Mikel stands better than other shortlisted players. Take it or leave it. Only matured and truthful football followers know what i am saying and not a SIMPLETON like you. To your myopic. Shallow minded, and dullard reasoning of the bases of winning of the APOY Award, both your past and present performances and achievements are considered, the roles you played in the past and present in your club and national teams boosts your chance of winning APOY Award. I know you are still a kid who thinks that you have grown up by daily smoking weed and drugs, while you have not yet stopped wearing pampers, how would you see the politics in the CAF since Issa Hayatou became the CAF president, I know you are too myopic/blind to see it because you know nothing in the football politics, there is no point wasting my time with a novice like you because you will never learn, you think that watching football in the viewing centers and making noise makes you a football expert. What do you know about football and its politics? When did you start watching football? All these street boys on nairaland forum who always jump into conversations with insults nowadays, you have no good family upbringing, if at all you have parents, I know they are worse than you, because a snake will always give birth to a snake. My comment was meant for people who are matured enough and know football and its politics and not a NONENTITY like you and your entire generation. May I ask you this question as an educated professor how many books have you written? Can you give me the name of any of your books? so that I can look for them and know how good you are. My advice to you is this: Please go back to your psychiatric hospital and continue with your treatment, if you were discharged by your doctor please go back and demand for the refund of your payment, sue the doctor and the hospital if they fail to refund your money ok. And please look for another better hospital. And don’t fail to STOP SMOKING GUFU/DRUGS ok. They are very harmful to your brain ok. You have a title from today. CAF newly introduced the BEST LUNATIC OF THE YEAR AWARD, I am very glad to announce to you that you are the first winner of this award. Big Congratulation Mr. JUNKY. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Prosperousmind: 2:25pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Well i dont think mikel obi is worth being African's footballer of the year cause he is more lyk an average player in the field of football |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 2:28pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Katsumoto: No o, Katsu. He won it after the Olympics o. He was winner for 2000 and these things are named in the January of the proceeding year (2001), that is why the current AFoY is for 2012, we are still waiting till 2014 to know the one for 2013, which would not be Mikel. He was the main man and heart of Cagliari, that is why Parma bought him. Think of Demba Ba at Newcastle before Chelsea, but only that Cagliari is more like Burnley or Reading without the top quality in midfield to supply strikers. I agree with your point that mistakes have been made before. What I am arguing is that it is your entire football (club and country) that should count. I am for exceptions though if someone is so prodigious for country but club situation had an unforeseen K-leg. I think Mikel has been very good for SE but by no means has he been prodigious. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 2:35pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
COOLDUN: I couldn't help but laugh. Look at this person! A product of a failed education system that has shown he is one with his moronic "They hate us" rudimentary, uneducated mindset is talking about being educated. A person is talking about myopic but argues an award that recognises seasonal achievement should be based on entire history. Then the person measures success of professors by how many books they have written. Complete product of a failed education system! They do not even know how academics are assessed. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Katsumoto: 2:45pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite, I just want to agree with something Cooldun stated. There is heavy politics in CAF. The North Africans bond together and the Francophone countries vote in bloc as well. The Anglophone countries on the other hand are not united. Also, the Francophone countries are led and controlled by Hayatou. Cameroun won the 1988 and 2000 AFCON because of Hayatou. The same sort of politics is present in UEFA and FIFA. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 2:57pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Sagamite, Bruv, I am sure there would be politics in any big organisation or any position of power especially an international one where money yafun. But I am sure that politics would have very little bearing on an award based on voting on who excites you the most where you can not vote for your citizen. Especially a vote by head coaches and Technical Directors of FAs who are likely to have a significant headcount of foreigners. Football is an entertaining game where performance can suppress discrimination. You no like black people does not mean you will not like watching Okocha or Ronaldinho play. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by COOLDUN: 3:11pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Katsumoto: My dear you really know football, from your comment every football historian would know that you are a veteran. Don’t mind the yesterday arrogant and uncultured brats who derive joy from insulting people online instead of arguing constructively. Goal keepers like Thomas Nkono of Cameroun(1979-Thomas Nkono (Cameroon and Canon Yaounde) and Badou Zaki of Morocco (1986-Badou Zaki (Morocco and Real Mallorca/ESP) won this award based on their performances in their clubs and national teams respectively as Mikel is doing rightnow. How good was F.Kanoute when he won it? He helped his club Sevilla FC to win Euefa Cup and his national team Mali to qualify for the AFCON. I am a Man U fan for life, I am not Mikel fan, I am only a man who has been following this award since it inception and know how the winners are selected, sometime merited players don’t win it because of politics in the CAF management. When F. Kanoute won it Drogba left the place with annoyance and many people protested and criticized CAF for it but nothing was done. JJ Okocha lost it when it was clear that he was in the best position to win then, nothing happened. Politics and luck are involved sometimes. I love your factual and constructive comment, keep it up my dear. When we see educated people we know not street touts that graduated in the mere glorified nursery schools they call university nowadays. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Katsumoto: 3:17pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: Watching them play and liking it is not the same as voting for them. I get your point but human bias always comes in. When France Football organized the award from 1970 to 1994, francophone players won it 15 times. Anglophone players started winning in the late 80s with Kalusha, Abedi, and Weah. And they are all recognizable names. Some of the Francophone players that won it, you (generic) probably have never heard of them. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 3:19pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
COOLDUN: person, so why did Hayatou let Kanoute win it over Drogba? Is it because Drogba spoke better English and he hates English-speakers that much? Nursery school? This is coming from a person that assesses professors by how many books they authored? |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by COOLDUN: 3:22pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Sagamite, My dear brother, that guy is high on something go through all his comments and there you will see how useless he is. I am not commenting for people like him. He is always high on something. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by COOLDUN: 3:28pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: I am very sorry for the country that still have the APES like you. Now i know that you reason with your mother's dirty holes. There is no point wasting my time with a NEVER DO WELL like you. If ever respond to your trashes again then know it that i am like your miserable father. Go on and expose your STUPIDITY more online, check your comments and know how people like them. Bragrat. 1 Like |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 3:33pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Obviously human bias would come into a vote, that is why Kanu won. You know I hate democracy right from time. In democracy, my opinion and many of those like COOLDUN would carry equal weight. Ko ni daa fun democracy! (E no go better for democracy). I also think you have to consider the fact that very few Anglophone players played in the West prior to the late 80s. Anglophone countries are not as closely tied to their colonisers as Francophone countries. So there were more Francophone footballers (the best ones) heading to places like France to play. Obviously they would play at a higher standard as the leagues were more advanced and they would also be more visible to France Football journalists in a world that was less connected than we have today. Also, obviously, France Football journalists would mainly visit more Franco-phone countries than Anglo-phone countries. So as an Anglophone footballer, to stand out with a chance to win, you must make your name at continental club and country level championships. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 3:36pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
COOLDUN: Who told you to comment "for" me? Cretin! COOLDUN: Cretinous product of a failed education system talking about doing well. person! I also think you meant "braggart". Mooron! |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Chartey(m): 4:22pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Jarus:KPB wasn't shipped Oga Jarus. He went back to Germany for family reasons. Even the Milanista were disappointed. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Chartey(m): 4:26pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Jarus: My Top 10 African Players Oct 2012-Sep2013Are u serious Adebayor?? I'm very sure u included Pitroipa n Traore cuz of Afcon. How can you rate Sessegnon for instance ahead of KPB? And Salah is not even the best Egyptian player. This list is so not it abeg. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Chartey(m): 4:29pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Jarus:I find myself quoting your posts and it amazes me how little you know seem to know of football aside the EPL and the UCL. Muntari has been very consistent for Milan since last season. He isn't their best player but he is a key part of that team and even coming up with the odd goal occasionally |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Chartey(m): 4:29pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Jarus: My Top 10 African Players Oct 2012-Sep2013Pls just sit back and look at your list again. Loooooool |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Chartey(m): 4:35pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
iszyboy: Have you guys forgotten so soon that kelvin prince boateng has retired from international duty? which automatically disqualify him from the award. Have you also forgotten that in 2008 abou treka of egypt correct me if am wrong in the spelling,won AFCON,CAF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE,EGYPTIAN LEAGUE AND SEMI-FINALT in WORLD CLUB CUP, bt adebayor who didnt win any trophy won the award? have you also forgotten that in 2010 samuel eto' fills won UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE,WORLD CLUB CUP,ITALIAN SERIAL A and ITALIAN SUPER CUP, but drogba who only won premierleague nd fa cup won the award? have you also forgotten that in 2012, drogba won UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and F.A Cup single handedle,but yaya toure who only won premier league won the award? for those of you saying that mikel derserves the award cus he won EUROPA LEAGUE and AFCON,dont also forget that moses outshined mikel in AFCON and EUROPA LEAGUE and also musa won RUSSIAN LEAGUE,RUSSIAN F.A Cup,AFCON,RUSSIAN SUPER CUP. Although the award is by voting, but your perfomrance matters which we all knows that yaya toure performs better than mikel this year be it club or international.Ur 1st statement is wrong. KPB was on the bench in Kumasi against Zambia. He would hv played if he hadn't picked up a knock in training. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by fijiano202(m): 4:59pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
mu mu that was 2012 we are in 2013 Emmadani: passenger?Did u watch ucl final against bayern?Tel me who performed any beta dan mikel dat day. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by fijiano202(m): 5:08pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Do u guys remeber mikel was not the MVP at the afcon 2013,i would rather give toure or pierre emerick aubameyang cos those are the top performing africans in Europe and still playing for Their country. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by bingbagbo(m): 8:15pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
mikel obi plays for chelsea because of michael eneramo or whatever, a nigerian technical director of chelsea...fact# |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by boron10(m): 8:37pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
bin gbagbo: mikel obi plays for chelsea because of michael eneramo or whatever, a nigerian technical director of chelsea...fact# And Michael Essien is still in Chelsea because his 'daddy' is the manager of Chelsea. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Syenite(m): 8:40pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
bin gbagbo: mikel obi plays for chelsea because of michael eneramo or whatever, a nigerian technical director of chelsea...fact#So y does Chelsea nt have a Ghanaian tech director? |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 8:48pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
boron10: Good response! 1 Like |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by costandi(m): 11:16pm On Sep 28, 2013 |
Ayomax: una dey craze? coz he scored one goal for Chelsea in 7yrs, you think we should consider him for Africa footballer of the year. when Yaya dey thereOne goal for Chelsea in 7yrs? I think you should be banned from using the internet. Cos people like you make the internet an unreliable source of info. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by COOLDUN: 12:15am On Sep 29, 2013 |
DJDOLA: Some nigerian are crazy walahi....if u can not support ur brother who else will support him....I believe if yaya toure is not better than mikel is people will support him no matter what....abi if yaya toure is nigeria and mikel is from ivory coast I trust nigeria they will vote for mikel My dear that is what i am seeing here also, i know that there is no time everybody will like a person, but from the anger and tones i have witnessed from some people who are opposing Mikel’s selection in this nairaland , i come to know that some are because of personal hatred, bigotry, and jealousy. We should not quarrel over someone's opinion because we feel that is doesn’t suit ours, this forum is like a classroom, where 40 students should represent 40 different essays/views, it is only science subjects that has one formula, any essay/composition should be different individual opinions, there is no point commenting on someone's comment with insults, this English language is a borrowed language which no one except the English people is perfect in it. As long as Nigeria is concerned the only single general communication language is English, which is a colonial language all of us studied in school through education which is an acquired knowledge while wisdom is pure natural. The most important thing is the ability to pass your message and points across, but on nairaland some people see it as an avenue to show off their academically superiority and i know more than all mentality . while we all make the same mistakes, some of them even communicate in a short hand form of writing which is never recognized by any English institution. The country is greatly divided in these lines : Tribal, Religion, Political Party, Football Clubs, Have Much, and Have None, i have read so many furious comments from people and looked deeply to see that these aforementioned groups are where their anger and arguments were derived from. There is no way this country can be brought together with the kind of people we have in the country nowadays. Football which is the only the unifying factor in the country is fast failing, i wonder what else that will unite this country again. When someone is not from your Tribe, Religion, Party, Football Club, Class, whatever he/she does is never accepted. When you go to other countries you will see them speaking with one voice, as the Gabonese would proudly tell you in their French language, ''Les Gabonese Avant Touts'', meaning the Gabonese before all. But in Nigeria a foreigner is more preferred to our own people. Nigerians are the enemies of themselves, there is no unity in division, people say that there is strength is diversity, but Nigeria is an opposite of this word. Thank you for your sensible observation once again. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 1:06am On Sep 29, 2013 |
COOLDUN: I really weep for Nigeria considering the amount of people that have this kind of mentality and then claim they are well-educated graduates. The cells that are meant for 'reasoning' in their brains are just dead! |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Profbenson: 1:57am On Sep 29, 2013 |
Mike obi,deserves to be Africa football of the year. Stop beating youself,sell your kidney with just about 80,000,000 in india and its within three weeks.Can you call this number 08128249768. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by Sagamite(m): 2:02am On Sep 29, 2013 |
Profbenson: Mike obi,deserves to be Africa football of the year. There is no scam Nigerians would not get involved in. |
Re: Is Mikel Good For African Footballer Of The Year Award? by ColdTruth: 5:33am On Sep 29, 2013 |
Bonapart: ode! Were mikel g dey play? Na sunshine fc? U dey talk abt localy n internationaly Lol...I presume what he actually meant was abt which of the two has made AFRICA proud on performance n regularity bases, both on African nd foreign soil!... |
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