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Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360:Can you also tell us why Paul had to quote the Law of Moses to validate giving to ministers in 1 Cor 9:9? You can't eat your cake and have it both ways. ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by christemmbassey(m): 12:08pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ Gombs,this is d most DISHONEST TITHE collector i'v ever seen. See what greed can do to a (child?) of God. |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 12:09pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: Again, the eternal priesthood continues right. Please, if I pay or give tithe like the seed of Abraham, to whom do I pay or give the rest 90 % of my I'm still warming up again o ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 12:10pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Bidam: Can you also tell us why Paul had to quote the Law of Moses to validate giving to ministers in 1 Cor 9:9? You can't eat your cake and have it both ways. I have promised to deal with this topic. Open a new thread and invite me. We shall do some cooking in the word. ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Candour(m): 12:11pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: No mine dear. It shows me as someone honest enough to admit I do not know if Levites pronounce blessing or not on tithers. The bible didn't record it so I refused to speculate, guess or lie like you've been doing since the thread started. Show where i said the Levite blessed the tither. That God pronounced a blessing on them is obvious from Deut 14:29. Or you didn't see the blessing there? You just proved your desperation again by trying to twist what I wrote there in black and white. Meanwhile take a cue from me: admit when u really DO NOT know |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:12pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ Gombs, Was Abraham a Levite? Or did he pay his tithe to the Levitical order? ![]()
Malachi was talking about the Order of Melchizedek because only that order could bless the tither. Do u still think Melchizedek is long dead? ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Nobody: 12:14pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360:I don't need you long chocking eisegesis.Deal with the issue here,be concise and straight to the point ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:19pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: Go read what Abraham did with the remaining 90percent. If I decide to give it away, its a personal choice.....if I decide to keep it it isnin no way an offence. But I thought u said he was long dead..I mean Melchizedek...if you dont acept is is alive, then we have no further thing to discuss...why? Because the Order of Melchizedek has no succession, if u said he died or is dead, then that means it has a successor. So, accept u are wrong about that and the fact that he was horn of a woman...if not, then we have no bais to discuss further |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 12:21pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: Good!!! At least like my brother Candour says, this shows your dishonesty. The question was, #1. Is Abraham's tithe from 'spoils of war', items from war acceptable under the levitical priesthood? Your answer was: Was Abraham a Levite? Or did he pay his tithe to the Levitical order? ![]() 2. You just said "Malachi was talking about the Order of Melchizedek because only that order could bless the tither." First I take it as assumption and 2 as emphatic answer. That's what I was saying - The Abraham tithe was, he was blessed BEFORE the tithe, it wasn't the tithe that provoked Abraham's blesssings. In Malachi, it was tithe that provoked blessings - bring tithe AND THEN YOU RECEIVE THE BLESSINGS. You don't see any difference still? |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:25pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Somebody should call kunle to come and help his crew.... ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 12:32pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: So you now have a choice as to the rest of 90% right? I thought we are Abraham's seed and we must follow our father Abraham in tithe example. My father Abraham also gave the rest to rightful owner without CHOICE, why should my choice play role in returning 90% but only the tithe? Yes, Melchi was dead long ago. If he is not dead, where is he? Do you mind telling us where he is now? Even Christ died and resurrected. Do you study Hebrew syntax? In Hebrew syntax, it reads: "whose father and mother are not written in the genealogies or there is no genealogical account of them" 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 12:32pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: Somebody should call kunle to come and help his crew.... Call who naw? ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by christemmbassey(m): 12:39pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
@Joagbaje aka Gombs, u shamelessly claim dat God was refering to Melchi's priesthood in malachi 3:10, was God dealing with two priesthood at d same time with d same prophet malachi, see mal 1:6 "the Lord almihhty says to the priests...." mal 2:1 "listen, you priests, this command is for you...." mal 4:4 "remember to obey the instructions of my servant Moses,all the laws and regulations that i gave him on mount sinai for all Israel". 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:42pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
. Goshen360: You can lie o! Which bible version is that? Goshen International version? [size=32pt] KJV: Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. NIV:Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever. [/size] How then could you have concluded that he was born of a woman and that he is long dead.....are u blind to see that he remains a priest FOREVER..? Somebody should help Goshen out na.....he is embarrasing himself and the anti tithe crew ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:49pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
christemmbassey: @Jogbaje aka Gombs, u shamelessly claim dat God was refering to Melchi's priesthood in malachi 3:10, was God dealing with two priesthood at d same time with d same prophet malachi, see mal 1:6 "the Lord almihhty says to the priests...." mal 2:1 "listen, you priests, this command is for you...." mal 4:4 "remember to obey the instructions of my servant Moses,all the laws and regulations that i gave him on mount sinai for all Israel". Show me where it said in malachi 3v8-10 where God said his instructions there are for the livetical priesthood or the Law of Moses. ![]() Go study Malachi 3 At first it talked of a promised messenger in verse 1 In verse 2 to 5 it talked about a time that will come....a day of Change It had nothing to do with the law of moses or the levitical priesthood.... It spoke of the Messiah to come and the day of Change. Hallelujah! Thread carefully o! Candour, Zikky, Christembassey, theoctopus, and the biggest of them all Goshen has been put to flight......................remain u and Kunle to come fall una hand hy una self.....emmm, Goshen by Kunle I mean PASTOR KUN ![]() ![]() And I am not Joagbaje. It is like he gives u cramps? ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 12:57pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Let me go and watch Manchester City vs Everton U guys should use the period to cool off and call Kunle while at it Cheers |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Candour(m): 1:14pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: Like I said, keep spamming the thread. The purpose of my continued participation on this thread is not you but the innocent, naive and gullible that are seeing the truth about tithe for the first time and getting wiser thereby. Keep lying while we keep calling out your lies.You're actually a partner in progress whether you like it, know it or not ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by christemmbassey(m): 1:32pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs:bros u well so, or u like to play 'klint da drunk' pls explain malachi 4:4, if u can't, pls say so. |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 2:21pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
@ Gombs, Is Melchi A MAN or not? Lemme me take it step by step with you now. |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 2:26pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
^^ Are you blind? Or wanna fall hand this early? Did I make reference to Malachi 3v8-10 or Malachi 4v4 Eh? Why would you leave the context of Mal 3 and call for me Mal 4v4? Even after I explained Mal 3 for you. ![]() ![]() You should phone Kunle plz...cos now, you,Goshen, candour, zikky, theoctopus, and Christembassey needs his help. Make him do come fall him hand too |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 2:37pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ Gombs, He is A MAN by sexx (gender) But he is/was not a mortal ie he was/is immortal...but he had flesh. If you now say how can an immortal have flesh...then I want you to answer whether those angels that came down from Heaven and slept with ladies on earth...did they have flesh? Yes or no |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 3:14pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: If he was not a mortal man, how did he became KING of Salem? If he is A man, you agreed. How did he come into the earth or world? Your reference to Angels is out of point, I'm focusing on Melchi with you for now. Melchi was a man you agreed, angels are spirit beings. Are both same being? 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 3:43pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
^^ You asking me how he became King of Salem? Lol You asking me how he came into d world? Refer the below KJV: Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Ask God if you don't still get it! ![]() The angels were spirit beings, but when they came down to earth and had sexxx with ladies on earth, did they have flesh or not? If you can't answer this...wait for Kunle. I'm done with u |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 4:01pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: ^^ Mr, you can't be done with me. Please quote that in AMP version again please ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 4:30pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Gombs: ^^ Hebrews 7:3-5 Amplified Bible (AMP) 3 Without [record of] father or mother or ancestral line, neither with beginning of days nor ending of life, but, resembling the Son of God, he continues to be a priest without interruption and without successor. Hebrews 7:3-5 Expanded Bible (EXB) 3 ·No one knows who Melchizedek’s father or mother was [L …without father, without mother], ·where he came from [L without genealogy], ·when he was born, or when he died [L having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; C something unstated was assumed not to exist]. Melchizedek is like the Son of God; he continues being a priest forever [C Melchizedek’s unmentioned genealogy in Genesis is, by analogy, like Jesus’ eternal Sonship and priesthood]. O ya, let's start translation gyrations... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 4:54pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
@ Candour, shey you dey see me see wahala so? People wan teach bible, them no efen understand simple English. @ Gombs, Where art thou? Does a MAN fall from heaven? |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Candour(m): 4:57pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ Candour, shey you dey see me see wahala so? People wan teach bible, them no efen understand simple English. dont worry my bro. Gombs is strictly and fully into spamming mode now. He's like the proverbial bull in a china shop....only this time, this particular bull is blindfolded and dazed so just imagine the destruction it will leave in its wake. ![]() ![]() Maybe he needs Debosky's english skills ![]() No wahala sha. i get plenty time to spend on him. |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by christemmbassey(m): 5:01pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
@Gombs, did d Melchi's order CURSE ppl who refuse to pay tithe? |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Joagbaje(m): 5:04pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Kenny4lyfe: @Gombs do you have the book Don't Stop Here by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome? Chapter 2 deals with Tithe and other giving. It'll help! I'll have my own review ready soon! You can get the e book version , easy to copy and paste instead of typing. |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Joagbaje(m): 5:05pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Goshen360: Malachi 3 was written to Jews. What's the big deal there? 1 Like |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Gombs(m): 5:06pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
christemmbassey: @Gombs, did d Melchi's order CURSE ppl who refuse to pay tithe? It pronounced a blessing for those who did....do the math if someone didn't ![]() |
Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by Goshen360(m): 5:14pm On Oct 05, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Tell Gonna that truth. Why then do you enforce it on Christians. In fact, tell Bidam, Image123, AlwaysLIE who always say every word of the bible is for us, gentile Christians. |
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