According to Joel
Osteen – Pastor of Lakewood Church
in Houston, Texas, these first century
apostles are wrong and outdated and
he has come out boldly to infer
indirectly that Apostles Paul, Peter,
and John whom wrote much of the
New Testament were wrong and need
to be corrected and rebuked.
When asked directly if people whom
are openly practicing homosexuals
are accepted into the Kingdom, Joel
Osteen responded with “Absolutely,
anybody is.”
We all need to listen carefully to the
words that this “man of God” speaks
as he goes on interviews so we too
can find the errors in the preaching of
the first century apostles.
Joel does acknowledge that some
things are “sin” but says, “I don’t
address these things from the pulpit.
They only come up in interviews.”
When asked if openly practicing gay/
homosexual people will be accepted
into heaven, Joel Osteen responded,
“I believe they will.”
He makes no mention of the need for
repentance.
Joel Osteen Brings Us Universalism
The doctrine of universalism is the
belief that all people are “saved” no
matter who you are or what you’ve
done.
This is a new version of the “good
news” that is MUCH BETTER than the
message the Jesus and the Apostles
preached 2,ooo years ago which was
far too narrow according to the way
Joel Osteen explains his “message.”
“I’m for everybody” says Joel Osteen,
“I’m not into excluding people. Jesus
can reveal himself to anybody.”
The idea is that since no one would
be accepted if we are called to be
“holy” then all have to be accepted.
So goes this logic. This doctrine also
believes that all roads lead to heaven
so there is no one “way, truth, and
life that leads to the father.”
According to Joel, “sin means to
miss the mark” which, while
technically correct, stands in contrast
to the teachings of many writers of
the Bible that teach that sin is
violation of God’s Holy Laws so if by
missing the mark Joel means
violating God’s ways, then yes, sin is
missing the mark.
According to the out of date writers
of the Bible, the “wages of sin is
death” for which blood is required
and for which a sacrifice was
presented.
It sounds a lot more harsh to say SIN
is TREASON punishable by death than
to say it is “missing the mark” which
is a bit incomplete. Sin is also “to
incur guilt, incur penalty” which
according to the scripture is death.
Romans 6:23 “For the wages of
sin is death; but the gift of God
is eternal life through Jesus
Christ our Lord.”
When asked about people who live in
open sin, Joel smilingly said, “I’m not
going to bash those people. I’m not
going to be against those people.
They’re good people.”
So by contrast, Apostle Jude is
“bashing people” when he said:
Jude 1:14-16 “And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these, saying,
Behold, the Lord cometh with
ten thousands of his saints, to
execute judgment upon all, and
to convince all that are ungodly
among them of all their ungodly
deeds which they have ungodly
committed, and of all their hard
speeches which ungodly sinners
have spoken against him. These
are murmurers, complainers,
walking after their own lusts;
and their mouth speaketh great
swelling words, having men’s
persons in admiration because
of advantage.”
Joel’s wife recently said to Piers
Morgan. “It’s the people that we’re
after. We’re not trying to judge their
sin. We want to encourage them and
love them. You’re only going to win
people by reaching out to them.”
Isn’t that so awesome! They are all
about the people! They want you and
I be accepted without having to
discuss anything like repentance or
righteousness. These are
“judgmental” subjects that we just
don’t need.
These modern day ministry giants
have gone on national television to
essentially correct Apostles Peter,
John, and Paul to say … they are
wrong … if you listen to Joel Osteen.
So many across the nation are so
proud of this Pastor and his courage
in confronting the church fathers!
According to Joel Osteen, Apostle
Paul erroneously stated to the
Corinthians …
1 Corinthians 6:8-10 “Nay, ye
do wrong, and defraud, and that
your brethren. Know ye not that
the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not
deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind, Nor
thieves, nor covetous, nor
drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the
kingdom of God.”
In saying
this, according to Joel Osteen,
Apostle Paul is being “exclusionary”
and should be rebuked and corrected.
He is obviously wrong and should
never have said these things to the
Corinthian church.
Corinth was known for its sexual
openness and promiscuity so for Paul
to “condemn” all these “good people”
was completely out of order and he
needs to be rebuked.
When Paul wrote to the Romans he
also was in complete error in stating
the following in the first chapter of
his letter, according to Joel Osteen.
“And likewise also the men,
leaving the natural use of the
woman, burned in their lust one
toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which
was meet.”
According to Joel Osteen, Paul was
absolutely incorrect and to state that
being a homosexual is a sin is being
“judgmental” and should not be
tolerated. It is just wrong according
to Joel Osteen. Many people agree
with Joel Osteen today and so,
Apostle Paul is apparently misguided
and incorrect in his letter.
Joel goes on to point out the
additional errors in the words Apostle
Paul wrote.
“Who knowing the judgment of God,
that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the
same, but have pleasure in them that
do them.” Paul went on to write in
the first chapter of Romans, which
according to the words of Joel
Osteen, he is deeply misguided and
mistaken.
Apostle Paul should repent for saying
such things according to Joel Osteen.
A growing number of people in
America agree with Joel that Apostle
Paul should be rebuked for ever
saying such things because Paul isn’t
accepting of people like Joel Osteen
is.
Equally misguided and incorrect
according to Joel Osteen is Paul’s
words to the Galatian church. In his
writings, Apostle Paul made stunning
comments that were clearly
exclusionary statements concerning
the Kingdom and those whom are
accepted, and in so doing has made
grave error according to Joel Osteen.
See if you can detect the absolutely
false statements that Apostle Paul
made to the Galatian church
according to the stated doctrine of
Joel Osteen.
Galatians 5:19-21 “Now the
works of the flesh are manifest,
which are these; Adultery,
fornication, uncleanness,
lasciviousness, Idolatry,
witchcraft, hatred, variance,
emulations, wrath, strife,
seditions, heresies, Envyings,
murders, drunkenness,
revellings, and such like: of the
which I tell you before, as I have
also told you in time past, that
they which do such things shall
not inherit the kingdom of God.“
You can clearly see what has Joel
Osteen so unhappy that he’s gone on
national television to correct this! It
is this type of rhetoric, according to
Joel Osteen, that is completely false
and misrepresents the God he serves.
Joel Osteen’s God loves everybody
and there are no exclusions because
then, according to Joel, “none of us
would be saved.” So again, Apostle
Paul was completely incorrect and
should never have written such harsh
and insensitive words to the Galatian
church according to Joel.
I imagine Joel Osteen would say
“shame on Apostle Paul for ever
writing such hateful words!”
Now, not only is Joel out to correct
the misguided Apostle Paul, but
Apostle Peter was also brought into
serious question for clearly being
exclusionary when he wrote these
words.
1 Peter 1:14-16 “As obedient
children, not fashioning
yourselves according to the
former lusts in your ignorance:
But as he which hath called you
is holy, so be ye holy in all
manner of conversation; Because
it is written, Be ye holy; for I am
holy.”
According to the doctrine Joel Osteen
has now shared with us all as “his
message,” being clearly more evolved
and enlightened than the archaic
Apostle Peter, no one can be holy.
We are left to conclude that Peter is
misguided and is being judgmental.
What a terrible yoke and
condemnation Apostle Peter is trying
to put on the good people he is
writing to.
Additionally, Apostle Peter goes on
to say things that are completely
against the Lakewood Church
Pastor’s God when he stated the
following.
2 Peter 2:6-8 “And turning the
cities of Sodom and Gomorrha
into ashes condemned them with
an overthrow, making them an
ensample unto those that after
should live ungodly; And
delivered just Lot, vexed with
the filthy conversation of the
wicked: (For that righteous man
dwelling among them, in seeing
and hearing, vexed his righteous
soul from day to day with their
unlawful deeds”
According to Joel Osteen’s public
comments, one could conclude that
Apostle Peter was in complete error
and deceived when he wrote such
things. What a terrible condemnation.
He clearly did not know the doctrine
that Joel Osteen preaches or he
would never have said such awful
and critical things.
Joel Osteen indirectly implies (subtly)
that these apostles were false and
were critical and judgmental and
should NOT be listened to in America
today. We all need to listen instead to
Joel Osteen and Oprah Winfrey.
Now Apostle John made even greater
errors if the benchmark is Joel
Osteen’s “message” when he stated
some of the thing that he wrote
which, according to Joel Osteen, is
just plain and simply not true.
It takes a lot of courage for Joel to
stand against these writings but he
believes strongly in his “uplifting and
encouraging” doctrine that does not
endorse such harsh and judgmental
statements as written by these
ancient Apostles.
We should all pray for Joel Osteen
because he needs our prayers if he’s
going to continue to champion the
cause of those oppressed and
condemned by the writings and
statements of Apostles like Paul,
Peter and John.
Revelation 21:8 “But the fearful,
and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and
whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars, shall
have their part in the lake which
burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.”
You see, according to Joel Osteen in
a recent interview, “God doesn’t see
any sin as worse than another” and
all are going to heaven. Apparently in
Joel Osteen’s bible, he has redacted
the unpardonable sin. So if you’re a
follower of Joel Osteen’s then this
statement by Apostle John must seem
just plain wrong.
Apostle John doesn’t know what he’s
talking about and we need to listen
to the wisdom of Joel Osteen.
Apostle John clearly was in error and
should be rebuked for suggesting
that people who tell lies are going to
have their part in the lake of fire.
What was Apostle John thinking
writing such judgmental things
That’s a terrible thing to say and no
one, certainly not Apostle John,
should be allowed to say such
things. As Joel says, “there’s enough
condemnation in the world” and we
don’t need anymore.
Additionally, in his letter, Apostle
John says things like …
1 John 3:8-10 “He that
committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the
beginning. For this purpose the
Son of God was manifested, that
he might destroy the works of
the devil. Whosoever is born of
God doth not commit sin; for his
seed remaineth in him: and he
cannot sin, because he is born
of God. In this the children of
God are manifest, and the
children of the devil: whosoever
doeth not righteousness is not
of God, neither he that loveth
not his brother.”
Now according to Joel Osteen and
the thousands that agree with his
“message,” this entire passage
should be removed from the pages of
the bible and no one should be
saying such things. In fact, Joel goes
on to share that it is this exact kind
of preaching that will hinder “church
growth.”
Apostles Paul, Peter, and John listen
up. Joel Osteen rebukes you all.
Now listen, Joel Osteen and his
ministry in Houston are all about
people. He is standing up for your
rights! He is taking a REALLY BIG
RISK because … if he’s wrong, and
Apostle Paul is right … then he stands
to be cursed! So he needs your
support in prayer NOW!
Galatians 1:9 “As we said before,
so say I now again, if any man
preach any other gospel unto
you than that ye have received,
let him be accursed.”
Instead, you all need to listen to his
message of universal acceptance and
lawless living without any
condemnation so we can all “lift our
spirits” and be “encouraging and
loving” to all people no matter what
lifestyle or choices they make. After
all, according to Joel, God loves us
all and everyone is going to heaven
so lighten up!
There is no exclusive path to the
Kingdom. According to Joel Osteen,
we need to hear this message
because it’s the right message and
anyone that says that there is an
exclusive path to God is wrong.
Joel would know, look at the size of
his church! He is clearly telling you
the truth more than anyone in history.
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto
him, I am the way, the truth, and
the life: no man cometh unto the
Father, but by me.”
Exactly how much error is too much?
Sources:
Overview of Joel Osteen/Oprah
deceptions:http://youtu.be/
weEWl52wevI
Joel Osteen meets with Larry King
… Here’s the link: http://youtu.be/
KwL1DThtxYg
Joel Osteen meets with Piers
Morgan … Here’s the link: http://
youtu.be/tgCpRNfBzys
To his credit, in this interview
Joel does call out sin,
however, he softens it and
backs away from talking about
repentance … and when he is
asked “what would you say”
his comment is that he doesn’t
understand. You’re leading the
largest church in America and
you don’t understand
REPENTANCE?
The quotes are taken right from what
Joel himself has spoken. He positions
himself on his own without being told
how to answer. On the one hand he
wants to appease his Christian
followers by saying “the bible says”
but on the other he clearly
fellowships with darkness and
facilitates those whom deny the
power thereof.
2 Timothy 3:1-7 “This know also,
that in the last days perilous times
shall come. For men shall be lovers
of their own selves , covetous,
boasters, proud, blasphemers,
disobedient to parents, unthankful,
unholy, without natural affection,
trucebreakers, false accusers,
incontinent, fierce, despisers of those
that are good, Traitors, heady,
highminded, lovers of pleasures more
than lovers of God; Having a form of
godliness, but denying the power
thereof: from such turn away. For of
this sort are they which creep into
houses, and lead captive silly women
laden with sins, led away with divers
lusts, Ever learning, and never able to
come to the knowledge of the truth.”
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The post is mixed with sentiments. Simply post the interviews in verbatim from a recognizable source.
That is not too much to ask, is it?

In all,brethren,prepare thy ways 4 d lord is comin' veri soon...ETT

I pity him.

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" (Revelation 22:18). "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:19).

Lots of problems with this modernism pastor.. "As long as you are good, you gonna make heaven" they've forgotten james 1:27, hebrews 12:14, jhn 3:3, romans 12:1 to mention but a few,They love the praise of man more than the praise of God..well as long as they have created their own teachings and doctrines, they should be ready to create their own Heaven for their own followers.. Rev 3:5,12. Shalom.

You should have posted the interview and let us judge for ourselves what he said and what he meant, instead of smearing it with your sentiments and prejudices. People can deliberately misunderstand a man if they want to doctor his image in a certain way in public. Its a cheap tactic of political critics but it has also sadly been introduced into the church. Post the interview!