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Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Madamspeaker(f): 12:43am On Oct 04, 2013
Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?...
Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question...

Pls why are they still poor?
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by fernandoc(m): 1:29am On Oct 04, 2013
Make I ask this babalawo. Brb

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Nobody: 2:03am On Oct 04, 2013
Ask Ifa!
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by quivah(f): 4:03am On Oct 04, 2013
the 'babalawos' are like the nigerian masses..
While their customers are like the Nigerians politicians..making lotta money in a very short time

They are still poor cause they don't perform the rituals for themselves knowing full well of the repercussions..I guess!

Btw,Babalawos are Making cool money now!!
Not from rituals tho.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by MamiWata: 11:35am On Oct 04, 2013
Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?...
Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question...

Pls why are they still poor?

If your paramount goal is to communicate with and channel spirit why would you be concerned with earthly wealth? Some babalawos are doing very well but a lot of them are focused on other things because they know what is truly important.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by sunnyt1(m): 3:44pm On Oct 04, 2013
Its bcs they know the repercurssion of those things, so they rather remain poor.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by RandomAfricanAm: 4:35pm On Oct 07, 2013
When you say "poor" do you mean "not filthy rich" or simply don't have food, shelter, and clothing?

Personally I've found that I can live a rather full life with just food, shelter, clothing, electricity, internet, and a couple nic-nacs like decent computer/reliable transportation.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by tpia5: 9:16pm On Nov 22, 2013
i doubt they're actually poor, sometimes they have too much responsibility due to many wives, etc, so it makes them appear poor because the kids might not be well cared for.

besides, they have to keep up a certain appearance to the public.

all need Jesus sha, lord have mercy.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by timsbee(f): 9:37pm On Nov 22, 2013
Are they poor? Is ther any1 of dem u knw n paticula? Cos i wonda hw u take knw say dem dey poor.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:59pm On Nov 22, 2013
They lead simple lives and dont show off.

Having too much wealth means armed robbers at your doorstep, especially in those areas.

ANyways that is not the main reason.

The main reason has been stated above by some posters.


becoming rich like that, requires big sacrifices.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Nobody: 11:32pm On Nov 22, 2013
MamiWata:

If your paramount goal is to communicate with and channel spirit why would you be concerned with earthly wealth? Some babalawos are doing very well but a lot of them are focused on other things because they know what is truly important.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by daragrams(m): 8:42pm On Dec 11, 2013
have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good divination?

have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good testimony?

have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good report?

what normally happens to all of them?

the babalawos know their end already so they wont want it to happen to them
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by odumchi: 12:20am On Dec 12, 2013
A native doctor (babalawo) isn't the same as a ritualist. Anyway, wealth is not everyone's priority in life. Traditionally, medicine men were humble people who were content to devote their lives to the service of an oracle or spirit.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by macof(m): 6:52am On Dec 12, 2013
tpia@:
i doubt they're actually poor, sometimes they have too much responsibility due to many wives, etc, so it makes them appear poor because the kids might not be well cared for.

besides, they have to keep up a certain appearance to the public.

all need Jesus sha, lord have mercy.
lol later u would lie that u don't shove Jesus to people.

Hypocrite
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by macof(m): 6:59am On Dec 12, 2013
daragrams: have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good divination?

have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good testimony?

have u even seen anyone that visited a babalawo and came back with a good report?

what normally happens to all of them?

the babalawos know their end already so they wont want it to happen to them

Yes
Yes
Yes

They are fulfilled and blessed, coming out happy as Ifa has solved their problems

The Babalawo knows their end because Ifa has reviled it, And Babalawo would always do as Ifa has said.
Everyone with his Ori, Babalawo won't do wat doesn't concern their Ori

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Ruq: 11:02am On Dec 12, 2013
That should be the old Bablaows, the new ones have Ifa 2.0 software, always programming and monitoring spirits.

But me think its cuz they don't want to be part of the consequences in the end.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by tpia5: 1:21pm On Dec 12, 2013
macof:
lol later u would lie that u don't shove Jesus to people.

Hypocrite

Stop provoking people, because you will not like it when I respond to you.

I've been ignoring you so far, seems you prefer I didn't.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:58pm On Dec 12, 2013
A Babalawos main duty is to look after shrine functions and rituals.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by macof(m): 2:13pm On Dec 12, 2013
Ruq: That should be the old Bablaows, the new ones have Ifa 2.0 software, always programming and monitoring spirits.

But me think its cuz they don't want to be part of the consequences in the end.

No too much earthly concerns would prevent one from being concerned about his spiritual growth.

Money is not everything.

Btw Major Yawistic prophets were poor eg. John baptist, Elijah, Isaiah and even Jesus
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Rossikk(m): 2:37pm On Dec 12, 2013
They are poor because the masses have abandoned traditional religiosity and embraced the faiths of their conquerors. In the old days, our priests presided over temples and magnificent rituals, devised creeds on papyrus, wood and stone, and stood watch over the stars and cosmos, calculating their trajectories, as the masses trooped to them for education and spiritual guidance.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:42pm On Dec 12, 2013
Rossikk: They are poor because the masses have abandoned traditional religiosity and embraced the faiths of their conquerors. In the old days, our priests presided over temples and magnificent rituals, devised creeds on papyrus, wood and stone, and stood watch over the stars and cosmos, calculating their trajectories, as the masses trooped to them for education and spiritual guidance.

rightly said.

It is my dream to build big temples in Nigeria, filled with the sweet perfume of incense, with idols made of Gold silver and good wood, with observatories, and spiritual sanctuaries.

We will get there someday. .
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Ruq: 4:05pm On Dec 12, 2013
macof:

No too much earthly concerns would prevent one from being concerned about his spiritual growth.

Money is not everything.

Btw Major Yawistic prophets were poor eg. John baptist, Elijah, Isaiah and even Jesus

Money is everything but not everything as it is in the context.
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Nobody: 11:39pm On Dec 12, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


rightly said.

It is my dream to build big temples in Nigeria, filled with the sweet perfume of incense, with idols made of Gold silver and good wood, with observatories, and spiritual sanctuaries.

We will get there someday. .

Believe me, the day we start to see this in Nigeria is the day the country transforms for the better in all ramifications. All the great African civilizations built huge temples in honor of the African Gods. Egypt, Nubia, Kush, Kerma, Ghana, Benin, the Shona empire of Great Zimbabwe fame. This was why they were so successful and prosperous for long periods. The Ghana empire enjoyed nearly 600 years of uninterrupted peace and prosperity. Their emperors had rejected Islam, and repelled the Jihadists, keeping the kingdom safe from infiltration for over 15 generations. Nigeria cannot afford to be worshiping these foreign entities. I'm sure it has a lot to do with our problems.

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Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by Nobody: 11:47pm On Dec 12, 2013
cool
Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by ghostofsparta(m): 8:10am On Dec 13, 2013
Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?... Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question... Pls why are they still poor?


The number of threads on this forum on topics that distorts and dilute several aspect of indigenous believe system (especially that of the Yoruba/Odudua origin) are so much than I can respond to, it pains me when I imagine the sorts of untruths and falsehood they dish out to those who don't know anything but care to read. I just tried to muster up some strength to type you a respond for the sake of others. Your question is not a new one, it's an old and stale one, it's the most favourite question adherents of Abrahamic religions here in Nigeria love throwing around to score a seemingly logical point, all in their unrelenting bid to discredit and downplay practitioners of ancestral believe system in this part of the world. First of all, I will assume you to be one among the 90% of Nigerians who think they know or understand who a Babalawo is, or what the title 'Babalawo' means. Many always ignorantly refer to an Onisegun and an Adahunse as 'Babalawo'. It's a big error many of you keep making and it is a reflection of how culturally uneducated our peoples are, especially many Yorubas when it comes to true traditional education. I'm not bragging to know all or everything but I conduct my researches deeply using deconstructive analysis to construct an understanding out of the complex believe system of my ancestors. Ever since on Nairaland, I have always detect and point out misconceptions, false presumptions and errors in many statements and interpretations from both those who don't know but think they know and those who know. The problem lies in the impossibility of translating precisely many aspects of Yoruba cosmogony as contained in Ifa, into the English language. For instance it erroneous to say "Odudua fell from heaven", Ifa states 'Odudua atewon ro', some traditionally educated ones on Nairaland may translate it as 'Odudua descended from heaven' which is very incorrect because 'Heaven'; a paradisical abode for the righteous is an Abrahamic concept intrinsic to Christianity, Islam(Jannah) and Judaism(Shamayim) just like the notion of Elysium, Nirvana and Ganghes, Valhalla are only exclusive to the Greek, Chinese, Hindus and Scandinavian respectively. Some may translate it as 'Odudua climbed down from the sky' which is quite up to it but still incorrect because one need to understand that the idea of deities residing and descending from a location that is usually skyward is un- African, it is a concept which was gradually infused into our believe system to which even most native practitioners today, while trying to explain somethings to a questioner unknowingly tend to use English 'terms' that doesn't exactly transliterate to what they indeed want to clarify, hence the listener processing the information within the context of Abrahamic faith. Since Orun is sky, Ofurufu is cloud, the correct translation is 'Odudua manifested from Orun', Orun refers to Ajule-orun which is the same as Ikole-orun. It is not the same as the Christian 'Heaven'.

Back to the topic, a BABALAWO is a strong title whose meaning encompasses lot of privileges, in my book, I describe the title as The Keeper of Secrets and Custodian of esoteric knowledges while ONISEGUNS are Practitioners of Supernatural magic.

Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?... Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question... Pls why are they still poor?

What's your definition of poor? If by poor, you mean stupendous wealth, well then I would say that there are Babalawos who do have, although very few, and some who doesn't desire wealth as such. Another thing you are obviously ignorant of is the underlying complex principle guiding the conditions getting rich without any legit effort. Check out this link for more info.

https://www.nairaland.com/1553939/babalawos-not-supposed-very-rich

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