ooman: 1. Their argument against atheism is: nothing comes from nothing, yet they believe a complex conscious god could pop into existence from nothing, and not just that, create everything from nothing.

- Q1-If nothing comes from nothing, what did your god come from - They console themselves by saying such a complex being is uncreated-
unbelievable.

ooman:
2. If nature as we know it was designed, and if everything that exists must be designed
- Q2-then who designed your god, and who designed the god who designed your god, and that can go ad infinitum.

ooman:
3. If God does not interfere in our affairs
- Q3- why believe that he can help you
- Q4-why punish sinners? Why destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?
- Q5- why pray to him, since he doesn't interfere in your affairs anyway?

ooman:
4. If the universe was created to support life
- Q6- why does it not support life everywhere?
- Q7- why is life scarce in it?

ooman:
5. If god is good, and if everything came from god
- Q8- where did evil come from?
- Q9- why create the devil, who will later turn evil?

ooman:
6. If god is all powerful
-Q10- why does he have to kill himself to forgive our own sins.
-Q11- to whom did he pay our price of salvation? to himself or to a greater god?

striktlymi:

What is nothing??

From your usage of the word 'nothing' one would be tempted to think that you mean it as a substantive term, which can be equated to a place.

striktlymi: God did not exactly create everything. Some things he created while others he made from some already existent materials. The Universe is an example of God's creation while man is an example of one of the things he made.

striktlymi: Anyways, if you ask me where God came from, the best answer I can give you is that he did not pop up from somewhere...he just existed of himself.

striktlymi: God existed and he has no beginning.

striktlymi: He interferes is and when he wants to.

striktlymi: Who said the Universe as a whole was created to support life??

striktlymi: God is good and created all things good. Evil came from the ability of his 'creatures' to exercise freewill. In itself freewill is good and not bad.

striktlymi: His decision to die for our sins has nothing to do with his nature as an all powerful God.

GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder why these topics are reiterated over and over again?

Is it out of boredom or maybe a messiah syndrome on the atheist side with a quest of delivering the sheeple?

GeneralShepherd: anyway my view is simple, to every man his own understanding.

Believe in God especially the Christian God cannot be backed up with sound logic all the time,sometimes it is so illogical hence the phrase ''God works in mysterious ways'' . Therefore I believe because it makes me sleep better at night simple.

GeneralShepherd: I tried atheism didn't really workout for me maybe years of religious indoctrination perhaps? but i am comfortable with Christianity at least the socialization and communal aspects of it.

GeneralShepherd: At Ooman been awhile whats up?

macof: Op God exist just not the way Christians portray God. He is the much more than the Christians say he is. If you want to understand more about God, check out what other religions have to say.

GeneralShepherd:



And then what makes other religions more rational than Christianity?

@Ooman no wahala welcome back but ease on the ad-hominem abeg. Striktly is a great guy

macof: Op God exist just not the way Christians portray God. He is the much more than the Christians say he is. If you want to understand more about God, check out what other religions have to say.

striktlymi:

What is nothing??

From your usage of the word 'nothing' one would be tempted to think that you mean it as a substantive term, which can be equated to a place.

God did not exactly create everything. Some things he created while others he made from some already existent materials. The Universe is an example of God's creation while man is an example of one of the things he made.

Anyways, if you ask me where God came from, the best answer I can give you is that he did not pop up from somewhere...he just existed of himself.




God existed and he has no beginning.



He interferes is and when he wants to.



Who said the Universe as a whole was created to support life??



God is good and created all things good. Evil came from the ability of his 'creatures' to exercise freewill. In itself freewill is good and not bad.



His decision to die for our sins has nothing to do with his nature as an all powerful God.

GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder why these topics are reiterated over and over again?

Is it out of boredom or maybe a messiah syndrome on the atheist side with a quest of delivering the sheeple?

anyway my view is simple, to every man his own understanding.

Believe in God especially the Christian God cannot be backed up with sound logic all the time,sometimes it is so illogical hence the phrase ''God works in mysterious ways'' . Therefore I believe because it makes me sleep better at night simple.
I tried atheism didn't really workout for me maybe years of religious indoctrination perhaps? but i am comfortable with Christianity at least the socialization and communal aspects of it.
At Ooman been awhile whats up?

macof: Op God exist just not the way Christians portray God. He is the much more than the Christians say he is. If you want to understand more about God, check out what other religions have to say.

truthislight:

Some times i have a lot to say, but find my self not saying it, reason being because of that statement above > "the christian God".

What really is "the christian God" ?
What is it ? Trinity ?

'Trinity'.

Aka 'God came to die'.

How does one defend such really baffles me. Smh.

No wander!

*We know the culprit/reasons for the attacks*

GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder why these topics are reiterated over and over again?

Is it out of boredom or maybe a messiah syndrome on the atheist side with a quest of delivering the sheeple?

anyway my view is simple, to every man his own understanding.

Believe in God especially the Christian God cannot be backed up with sound logic all the time,sometimes it is so illogical hence the phrase ''God works in mysterious ways'' . Therefore I believe because it makes me sleep better at night simple.
I tried atheism didn't really workout for me maybe years of religious indoctrination perhaps? but i am comfortable with Christianity at least the socialization and communal aspects of it.
At Ooman been awhile whats up?

truthislight:

Some times i have a lot to say, but find my self not saying it, reason being because of that statement above > "the christian God".

What really is "the christian God" ?
What is it ? Trinity ?

'Trinity'.

Aka 'God came to die'.

How does one defend such really baffles me. Smh.

No wander!

*We know the culprit/reasons for the attacks*

macof: If u get to learn wat other religions say about God, u might find answers to ur questions

macof: If u get to learn wat other religions say about God, u might find answers to ur questions

joel lala: @Ooman, permit me to ask you a question.

When human beings die, what happens to them(soul, spirit etc)?

joel lala: @Ooman, permit me to ask you a question.

When human beings die, what happens to them(soul, spirit etc)?

9jadelta: nothing like soul and spirit... its all religion's gilbrish to keep it's zombies at bay.
where were you before u were born? where was ur soul, spirit etc?

joel lala:


Ok since there is no soul and spirit, explain how human beings originated and what happens to them when they die.

ooman:

There is nothing like a soul or spirit. When a human dies, it does like other animals. It is dead and done with, it lives no more, no afterlife.

ooman:

you are a product of evolution, and man continue to evolve...

joel lala:


Evolution from what? Kindly expanciate..also where did the first being(man) of evolution come from(definately it cant come out of thin air)

joel lala:


Ok..so when a human dies he is gone forever..How come some humans experience what we call de ja vu in their present day life?

joel lala:


Ok..so when a human dies he is gone forever..How come some humans experience what we call de ja vu in their present day life?

ooman:

nothing like the first man, evolution is a continuous process and man is its present stage in the hominid lineage. read more here

http://humanorigins.si.edu/resources/intro-human-evolution

it answers every question you may have...

ooman:

yep, gone forever. Deja vu is illusory, even i experience it... and am an atheist...

joel lala:



Bros deja vu is not illusion..I have also experienced it long ago and at a point in time i was able to predict what might happen next and it happened exactly..so how do you explain that..