crackhaus: What exactly is the job description of the NIA, and why is an ambassador with no experience in military, logistics or intelligence being made its DG

Jeel: What does this NIA do? Spy on individuals and othe African Nations like the CIA?

crackhaus: What exactly is the job description of the NIA, and why is an ambassador with no experience in military, logistics or intelligence being made its DG

donroxy: The question we should all ask is What is the Significance of African Intelligence ? in this Neo-colonialistic dispensation and not Just NIA,SSS,DMI blahblah ...


Naptu, the Question those guys are asking U is quite Understandable since NIA seems to be dormant also the entire Security Operatives and Channels, simply because of Politics which has destroyed all Institution s of Governance !!!


NIA is quite under Utilised !!

donroxy: The question we should all ask is What is the Significance of African Intelligence ? in this Neo-colonialistic dispensation and not Just NIA,SSS,DMI blahblah ...


Naptu, the Question those guys are asking U is quite Understandable since NIA seems to be dormant also the entire Security Operatives and Channels, simply because of Politics which has destroyed all Institution s of Governance !!!


NIA is quite under Utilised !!

naptu2: State Security Services (SSS) operatives taking arrested member of the Iranian Republican Guards to court

naptu2: Suspected Hezbollah operatives.

naptu2: Weapons found at Mr Fawaz's house in Kano.

Obiagelli:
i have got to agree with you on the bolded, our institutions are near dead except for a few like the SSS, if the SSS works then i guess the NIA should be as effective. Question is what happens to the intel gathered? They end up like every white paper committee, simple as ABC.

beejaay:

guy relax nahhh just take a sip of alomo as u dey release that gas and i bet u are gonna be ok, believe me it helps

hunter2,1:
@nutty_hnic
(this very useful BACKGROUND
report which leads into the
presently unfolding activities
in Mali was accessed for us by
KASSIM “MKO Jr” ABIOLA) DAILY POST
17 November, 2012 excerpts (..) Dailypost exclusively
gathered that fresh steps have
been taken to capture the
sect’s kingpin, Imam Abubakar
Shekau alive. Investigations
revealed that developments have since then convinced
government that the sect “was
obviously flying a kite to buy
time, following the discovery
of its operational base in
Northern Mali.” Insiders disclosed that the
Federal
Government has decided to
change its
approach to end the Boko
Haram menace by deploying vast resources to capture the
leader of the sect. The source
said, “government is no longer
keen on sending thousands of
our troops to Mali to fight in a
foreign land notwithstanding our commitment to the
ECOWAS plan to put some
troops together. This is
because the ECOWAS process
will still need to get the
approval of the United Nations and go through some
international protocols which
will be a little bit cumbersome
and slow.” But beyond this, the security
source
disclosed, “the decision by
government to change tactics
is more of respecting our pact
with the military leader in Mali,
Captain Sanogo, who is
seriously working with us on
this project. They (Malian
authorities) are insisting that
they don’t want foreign troops in their country because of the
aftermath of that and as such
they are now requesting for
logistic support, including
arms, ammunition and military
wares that their own troops will use to flush out the rebels
controlling the North of Mali,
where the Boko Haram leaders
are hiding,” the source added Sources said that the decision
to discard
deploying Nigerian troops to
launch a
direct attack on rebels’
stronghold in northern Mali is because “out
of about
three or four ECOWAS
countries that
share borders with Mali, only
two have problems with the Touareg Islamist rebels,while
the others are okay with the
group. In essence, ECOWAS troops will
not enjoy
the full support of these other
neighbouring countries, a
development
that may make our troops suffer heavy
casualties because of likely
sabotage.” It was further gathered, high-
tech
military and intelligence
monitoring
equipment have been
deployed to Mali in addition to the physical presence of some
operatives of the Nigerian
Intelligence Agency (NIA) and
the Defence Intelligence
Agency (DIA) to assist the
Malian troops uncover the hideout of the sect suspected
leader, Shekau. The security source said,
“there is, no
doubt,that we will support
them (Malian troops) as
already requested because we
will now leave the battle for them to
fight to liberate their own
country, even
though we are benefiting from
the end result of the
onslaught. Quantity of our logistic or military support is,
however,
what cannot be disclosed.” However, the office of the
National
Security Adviser, Colonel
Sambo Dasuki
(retd), which is working
tirelessly to bring the Boko Haram
insurgency in the
country to an end is yet to
make any
official statement on the new
development.

donroxy: Wow, Oby welcome ,how was farm Mgt ?

That is exactly what I'm gonna reply Naptu .....

naptu2:
Aha! I'm going to answer your question because you've already written the answer in your post.

Take boko haram as an example. The menace had been detected by the SSS as far back as 2003/2004. This means that the SSS is doing its job. Reports were made about the sect. Nothing was done by those who have the political power to do something about it.

The sect attacked police stations in 2004/2005. The police and SSS arrested their members and charged them to court. What happened subsequently? They were released on bail. This means that the SSS did its job.

It was because it was the same boko haram members that had been involved in attacks in 2004/2005 that were also involved in attacks in 2009, that some members of the police decided to carry out extra-judicial killings, rather than arresting them and taking them to court.

You can see that it is wrong to say that the intelligence agencies are "not doing anything". The question is, in what kind of environment are they operating?

Members of the SSS arrested a boko haram suspect in a senator's residence, another one was arrested in a governor's lodge, all these would not have been possible if they were not working.

Who arrested the Lebanese that are accused of stashing weapons in Kano? Who arrested the Iranians in Lagos and Abuja?

The truth is that they are working, but their successes naturally receive less publicity than their failures.

donroxy: Kudos to you Naptu as I envisaged U would give me a Superb Response Nonetheless, The Job Of security Operative whether in covert/Open Operations is only complete after Thorough Investigation;Arrest;Prosecution and Most Importantly Persecution which enables the Ops to take the BadGuys/Terrorists outa our street ........


The Security Operatives are Major stakeholders in Democracy as such,they must help enshrined Rule of Law in our Polity within democratic values ............ But, what do we have from them ? , they have been reduced to Political Machinery/Tools Instead of BackBone of a Nation !!!


I wish we have more Azazis !!!

Obiagelli:
The Farm is great bro, hope you are doing great too.

donroxy: I'm fine too !!

Naptu seems to be defending the Intelligence agencies

I assume they are actually trying but their Job is never completed until the badguys are taken away from our polity ....

Abi Oby, what do u feel ?

naptu2:
Aha! Remember what happened to Azazi.

donroxy: He was a warrior who despite being an Appointee as well as BoyBoy of the President, He stood Up and told GEJ,PDP and the whole Nigeria the unfathomable Truth !!!

That is what Intelligence agencies do and not Just PotBelleing,Whorism and drinking Beers !!

donroxy: I'm fine too !!

Naptu seems to be defending the Intelligence agencies

I assume they are actually trying but their Job is never completed until the badguys are taken away from our polity ....

Abi Oby, what do u feel ?

naptu2:

Capnd143: are u daft or ur just ignorant? Have you ever seen a military man being a director of CIA, cia of all organisations? Yet you want a warhawk or military dude with perhaps no diplomatic sense to head a diplomatic intel agency? Anyone must be daft to think you are not daft.

naptu2:
I'm not "defending the security agencies", just stating the facts. The problem, as you stated in your first post, is with the political class. The job of the security services is to arrest and sometimes prosecute offenders (the ministry of justice/DPP also prosecute offenders). They are not the judges, neither are they the cabinet.

The policemen who carried out extra-judicial killings, in order to "put away the bad guys" ended up being prosecuted for carrying out extra-judicial killings. I hope that's not what you are advocating?

naptu2:

I'm not "defending the security agencies", just stating the facts. The problem, as you stated in your first post, is with the political class. The job of the security services is to arrest and sometimes prosecute offenders (the ministry of justice/DPP also prosecute offenders). They are not the judges, neither are they the cabinet.

The policemen who carried out extra-judicial killings, in order to "put away the bad guys" ended up being prosecuted for carrying out extra-judicial killings. I hope that's not what you are advocating?

nutty_hnic:

Simple the political class right?
At the end of the day what does an average nigerian know? They aint working.

You posted a couple of pictures of SSS findings and all. Do you have an idea how many times i ve seen those images?

Yes, 1 out of how many DEATHS? Thousands have lost their lives.

...these guys aint doing shi.t as far as i and MANY others are concerned.

The only time they are at their PEAK is when they are around Governors and other public office holders.

Obiagelli:
Bro do you know how many thousands have been prevented? Problem is there is too much secrecy in our defence system, that why we know next to nothing about them.

naptu2:
My question was, what happened to him afterwards?

The political class made sure that he lost his job, right?

So who would you blame, the security official (Azazi) or the politicians who made sure he lost his job?

donroxy: I'm not blaming Azazi simply because He did what a Gallant Intelligent Operative should do, If such made him to be sacked then Kudos for him standing in the part of righteousness !!!


Politicians all over the world seems to sell their nation due to overProtective of their Interests, it is the Job of Intel Officers to define Limits and defend the nation against any form of Insurrection that may possibly arise from Politicians clandestine moves !! Without committing Treason Of Course !!!


The BackBone of a Nation is the Security Agencies and their sole Objective is defence and Protect the nation even against Politicians of course !!