beryl04:
Imbecilic comments coming from this m. Oron.he's graduated to 'AIDS-infected nonsense'
One doesn't need glasses to see u are daft and lack sound logical reasoning.really,the only reason we still entertain u is for d amusement.so go on and make us laugh,black monkey feeling funky.
I've asked u b4,when are u gonna leave that your toilet cleaning job and come back to ur naija haven?surely, the fumes from those toilets is damaging some of your brain cells.

Sagamite:

You are a pure person.

How can a fagggot understand logic when there is a lesion on the brain?

beryl04:

really shallow ! I know what u are up about and ur pretenses doesn't preclude d fact that ur a closet homosexual.keep living in denial and continue spewing ur ignorance for what else cud a monkey like u do. Really, u can take an ape to d zoo, even domesticate it but it is still what it is;an ape.that's why ur long sojourn in London has not been able to change u.and u come up here brandishing ur fake intellectual vibe while ur just what u are , a hood rat.

lynk106:

you make no sense.

lynk106: The point of the matter is that 50 yrs ago, inter-racial marriages were also compared to bestiality!! the only difference is that times have changed. 50 yrs from now, we will probably see a gay president of the US.

lynk106: besides, polygamy is still legal in many societies. including Nigeria. so what's your point? at least 80% of Nigerian senators have either multiple wives or mistresses.also, old men still sleep with young women in droves. go and look at the nigerian college campuses. how is this different from ped.ophilia?

lynk106: As long as they are men and they are rich, they are free to do whatever they wish in naija.
society tend to prey on the powerless.

lynk106: Fela married 30 women in one day and was physically abusive toward them. yet he sang about colonization and police brutality. To him, women don't count as people deserving of respect and dignity. in the same way a lot of nigerians also think of gays.

lynk106: many people have animals as pets that even share d same bedroom. they kiss their pets and treat them like human beings. maybe we should make it illegal for people to keep animals as pets because it leads to bestiality? This is a more logical argument than comparing homosexuality to bestiality IMO. but of course bigotry will cause people to make the most stupid arguments to justify their senseless hatred.

lynk106: DISCRIMINATION
(Age, Race, Sex, National Origin, Religion, Disability, Pregnancy, Medical Condition, Marital
Status, Se[size=1pt].[/size]xual Orientation)
It is an unlawful ... practice to discriminate against any person because of that person's age,
race, gender, national origin, religion, physical or mental disability, medical condition, pregnancy,
marital status or se[size=1pt].[/size]xual orientation

The developed world is on the right track.

beryl04:

really shallow ! I know what u are up about and ur pretenses doesn't preclude d fact that ur a closet homosexual.keep living in denial and continue spewing ur ignorance for what else cud a monkey like u do. Really, u can take an ape to d zoo, even domesticate it but it is still what it is;an ape.that's why ur long sojourn in London has not been able to change u.and u come up here brandishing ur fake intellectual vibe while ur just what u are , a hood rat.

Uyi Iredia:

I tire of this folly. Not all people who disapprove of gays are closet gays, to insinuate such, especially where it is unproven, is silly.

But in any case, you fail to answer why gay marriage should be allowed over, say, incëstuous or child marriages.

Uyi Iredia:


Where did you get learn that Fela abused his wives or thought them without dignity ? I need evidence for that please.

lynk106: ^ seems like your IQ must be really low if you can't understand a simple concept.
Just because something is being compared to bestiality doesn't mean that there is a basis for comparison. Interracial relationships were compared to bestiality 50yrs ago. Polygamy is compared to bestiality in the west. yet in Nigeria, polygamy is the norm esp among folks who aren't westernized. Fela for example. He is seen as a "hero" yet he had THIRTY WIVES. Should we start hailing people who practice bestiality as heroes too?

lynk106: well, an awful lot of them are. The more extreme they are in their homophobia, the higher the chance that they are closet gays.
so I will wait to see how many posts you make on this thread then let you know whether or not you are a closet gay based on your obsession.

lynk106: google is your friend.

Child marriage exists all over the world. Some countries define adulthood as 18+, others define it as 21+, others yet still define it as 16+ so depending on the country, a bride could be a child while in another country, she would be considered an adult.In fact according to Nigerian constitution, a 9 yr old girl can be defined as an adult if she has a husband. Ever heard of someone called Senator Yerima?

At the end of the day,the thing that makes pedo.philia immoral is the R.APE because a child does not have the capacity to say no or resist force. in that case, I consider it as R.APE.
R.APE is a crime. it is a violent attack on someone. and by that definition, most pedo.philes violate a victim's physical space (their body).

lynk106: if a 20yr old woman has the physique of a 14 yr old child, she will attract p.edophiles. because p.edophiles are people who are attracted to the physique of young children. In that case though, it will be considered legal because a 20y old woman is an adult who has the capacity for consent.

lynk106: can you see what I mean now?
Ped.ophilia by itself is not illegal. It is the R.APE that is illegal. having sex with a child is illegal whether you are a ped.ophile or not. ex a 18 yr old who has sex with a 16yr old will be arrested for r.ape in the USA.

lynk106: --
With incestuous marriage,10% of all marriages in the world are incestuous (usually between cousins) and it is legal in many parts of the world including many states in the USA. the only reason it is made illegal is because of the birth defects in the offspring. This is the same reason certain chemicals might be banned if they cause birth defects. etc It is more of a health precaution and not necessarily a "moral" thing. Ex. smoking is banned from public space in USA because of the health hazard to others (the fumes can cause cancer. aka second-hand smoking). but if you smoke in your own home or on private spaces, then no one will arrest you since you are only killing yourself and not others.

lynk106: This is what we should learn to distinguish morality from logic.
r.ape as a crime is logical. it is a violent attack on someone.

lynk106: incest as a crime is logical. it is a health hazard (until advanced technology is developed to screen defects in pregnancy etc then it may become ok)

lynk106: infact, cannibalism in the USA is not a crime. what is a crime is if you kill or maim someone and then eat them. you will be arrested for the killing and maiming but you won't be arrested for the eating of the flesh. that is not considered a crime.
so if you found a decaying body on the road and decide to eat it, you wont be arrested. more likely you have a mental illness since there will be bacteria in it. but it's your body. you are free to do what you want to yourself. just as gays should be free to do what they want.

lynk106: you are free to have a tattoo, piercings etc you won't be arrested for adultery or fornication because it's more of a moral issue and not a logical reason to be arrested.

lynk106: all these holier-than-thou trying to create laws based on morality are S.TUPID. If an act doesn't violate your physical space (body) or property, then there is no reason for it to be illegal.

lynk106: I am yet to meet anyone provide any logical reason for why gay marriage should be banned.

lynk106: It's always some stupid "moral" reason.

lynk106: well then, in that case, fornication and adultery should also be banned and fornicators and adulterers should be arrested, don't you think?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina_Lawal

lynk106: or maybe we should put cameras into peoples' homes and arrest all those who masturbate and men who are having a.nal sex and blow j0bs with their wives. how immoral

lynk106: ^ seems like your IQ must be really low if you can't understand a simple concept.
Just because something is being compared to bestiality doesn't mean that there is a basis for comparison. Interracial relationships were compared to bestiality 50yrs ago. Polygamy is compared to bestiality in the west. yet in Nigeria, polygamy is the norm esp among folks who aren't westernized. Fela for example. He is seen as a "hero" yet he had THIRTY WIVES. Should we start hailing people who practice bestiality as heroes too?



well, an awful lot of them are. The more extreme they are in their homophobia, the higher the chance that they are closet gays.
so I will wait to see how many posts you make on this thread then let you know whether or not you are a closet gay based on your obsession.


google is your friend.

Child marriage exists all over the world. Some countries define adulthood as 18+, others define it as 21+, others yet still define it as 16+ so depending on the country, a bride could be a child while in another country, she would be considered an adult.In fact according to Nigerian constitution, a 9 yr old girl can be defined as an adult if she has a husband. Ever heard of someone called Senator Yerima?

At the end of the day,the thing that makes pedo.philia immoral is the R.APE because a child does not have the capacity to say no or resist force. in that case, I consider it as R.APE.
R.APE is a crime. it is a violent attack on someone. and by that definition, most pedo.philes violate a victim's physical space (their body).

if a 20yr old woman has the physique of a 14 yr old child, she will attract p.edophiles. because p.edophiles are people who are attracted to the physique of young children. In that case though, it will be considered legal because a 20y old woman is an adult who has the capacity for consent.

can you see what I mean now?
Ped.ophilia by itself is not illegal. It is the R.APE that is illegal. having sex with a child is illegal whether you are a ped.ophile or not. ex a 18 yr old who has sex with a 16yr old will be arrested for r.ape in the USA.

--
With incestuous marriage,10% of all marriages in the world are incestuous (usually between cousins) and it is legal in many parts of the world including many states in the USA. the only reason it is made illegal is because of the birth defects in the offspring. This is the same reason certain chemicals might be banned if they cause birth defects. etc It is more of a health precaution and not necessarily a "moral" thing. Ex. smoking is banned from public space in USA because of the health hazard to others (the fumes can cause cancer. aka second-hand smoking). but if you smoke in your own home or on private spaces, then no one will arrest you since you are only killing yourself and not others.

This is what we should learn to distinguish morality from logic.
r.ape as a crime is logical. it is a violent attack on someone.
incest as a crime is logical. it is a health hazard (until advanced technology is developed to screen defects in pregnancy etc then it may become ok)
infact, cannibalism in the USA is not a crime. what is a crime is if you kill or maim someone and then eat them. you will be arrested for the killing and maiming but you won't be arrested for the eating of the flesh. that is not considered a crime.
so if you found a decaying body on the road and decide to eat it, you wont be arrested. more likely you have a mental illness since there will be bacteria in it. but it's your body. you are free to do what you want to yourself. just as gays should be free to do what they want.
you are free to have a tattoo, piercings etc you won't be arrested for adultery or fornication because it's more of a moral issue and not a logical reason to be arrested.

all these holier-than-thou trying to create laws based on morality are S.TUPID. If an act doesn't violate your physical space (body) or property, then there is no reason for it to be illegal.

I am yet to meet anyone provide any logical reason for why gay marriage should be banned. It's always some stupid "moral" reason. well then, in that case, fornication and adultery should also be banned and fornicators and adulterers should be arrested, don't you think?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina_Lawal

or maybe we should put cameras into peoples' homes and arrest all those who masturbate and men who are having a.nal sex and blow j0bs with their wives. how immoral

2sa2: Miss google, u r trying too hard to sound convincing, give it a rest, the harder you try, the more ur foolishness is exposed.

Uyi Iredia:

But there is a basis for comparison: that was my argument. Like being gay, besti*lity is minorly practiced and strongly averred. If the West compare polygamy to be$tiality (which isn't generally done) then they should be OK with comparison of gays to b€$tials.

lynk106:


the conditions you give for comparing anything to bestility are:
1. minority
2. aversion.

Do you know who else fits that condition? Nigerians in South Africa. 1. they are a minority. 2. they are strongly averred or hated.
So, is xenophobia ok? Is racism ok if it involves a hated minority group ? was the holocaust against the jews in germany ok? is it ok to persecute minority christians in the north beacause they are averred? keep producing silly arguments ok? At least the western countries have learned from their past experiences to be more tolerant of all human beings.
come up with a better basis for comparison. Until you do so, your posts contain absolutely zero logic.

I know why you are comparing gays to bestials. you consider gay people to be animals. you don't see them as human beings. like I said, whites used to see blacks as animals as well. germans saw jews as animals etc. Humans have a natural violent nature that is suppressed by civilization. Even then, these violent tendencies are often taken out on minority groups that are not well liked, because if they are persecuted, no one will care. It is easy to target the weak or minority because they are too few in number or strength to stand up and defend themselves.
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In both crime and law, hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes, or race hate) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group. Examples of such groups include but are not limited to: racial group, religion, se.xual orientation, ethnicity or gender identity.[1]

Hate crime is a category used to describe bias-motivated violence: "assault, injury, and murder on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance, different color, different nationality, different language, different religion."[2]

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]

A hate crime law is a law intended to prevent bias-motivated violence. Hate crime laws are distinct from laws against hate speech in that hate crime laws enhance the penalties associated with conduct that is already criminal under other laws, while hate speech laws criminalize a category of speech.

Sagamite:
is paedophilia not a minority and aversion as well?

mink505:

pedophilia is a fetish. it is a paraphilia similar to zoophilia, sexual sadism and exhibitionism.
Homosexuality (used to be known as homophilia) used to be scientifically listed as a paraphilia but no longer is.


in fact, pedophilia by itself is not illegal. if a pedophile was arrested, he/she would be accused of r.ape. NOT pedophilia. In fact, a pedophile who wants to avoid jail would seek an adult who is underdeveloped physically. ex. late bloomers. the definition of pedophilia is an attraction to per-pubescent or pubescent bodies and there are quite a few adults out there who fit that description and have underdeveloped bodies that would attract pedophilies. this is perfectly legal as long as the object of attraction is not a child because in that case, it would be r.ape since children have no capacity for CONSENT by law. but if an 18yr old has a body of a 12 yr old etc then that's perfectly legal.even though it falls under the category of pedophilia.

In fact, there have been moves to redefine pedophila. to restrict it to per-pubescence only. so that men who are attracted to pubertal children will no longer be considered pedophiles. ie children above age 13. At the end of the day, none of it matters legally. It is just the scientific body that is debating it. they are the ones who set all these definitions. legally, it is r.ape that is a crime.

when there is consent between two adults, then it is legal. infact, there r some people who love to suck their own or their partners blood. all sorts of fetish exist out there. nothing illegal about it. If someone was sucking a child's blood though, then that will be a problem.
this is ironic because children's rights do not exist in Africa. violence towards children, beatings etc is perfectly acceptable behavior in most African countries. developed countries take this seriously. laws are there to protect people from harm. whether adult or child and chidren especially since they are not capable of protecting themselves. child marriages in Nigeria is so rampant. 15 yr old girls married to old men. no biggie. yet they claim "moral" stance against homosexuals. wtf

just because something is unusual doesn't mean it is illegal. examples of parahilias include Acrotomophilia (attraction to amputated people), Gerontophilia (attraction to elderly people) etc. might be disgusting but hey, laws are (and should be) based on logic not morals. If I am attracted to people with crossed eyes or attracted to dwarfs, what is your own bloody business? should we start arresting any normal sized person who shows romantic interest in aki and pawpaw because it is "strange" or "disgusting"?

It is just a third world country mentality to look for scapegoats (esp. a minority or disliked group that can't easily defend itself is usually targeted). Just a lot of violent tendencies in people due to frustration in life. and just a general predisposition to "fit in" if you are too different from others around you, you will become a target of persecution (usually witchcraft).
ex. people who love to sleep with their legs placed on the wall being accused of witchcraft and beaten to death etc. ridiculous. I place my legs on the wall sometimes. who cares. somehow all these "witches" are women, children and elderly. coincidentally people who have little power in society to defend themselves from the majority mob ie people looking for scapegoats to blame their problems in life on others.

trust me, if you are wretched in life, it is not the gays, "witches" or minorities that are causing your wretchedness. hard to believe ain't it?
#africanmentality
https://www.nairaland.com/1506229/enugu-gov-family-disowns-first

mink505:

pedophilia is a fetish. it is a paraphilia similar to zoophilia, sexual sadism and exhibitionism.
Homosexuality (used to be known as homophilia) used to be scientifically listed as a paraphilia but no longer is.


in fact, pedophilia by itself is not illegal. if a pedophile was arrested, he/she would be accused of r.ape. NOT pedophilia. In fact, a pedophile who wants to avoid jail would seek an adult who is underdeveloped physically. ex. late bloomers. the definition of pedophilia is an attraction to per-pubescent or pubescent bodies and there are quite a few adults out there who fit that description and have underdeveloped bodies that would attract pedophilies. this is perfectly legal as long as the object of attraction is not a child because in that case, it would be r.ape since children have no capacity for CONSENT by law. but if an 18yr old has a body of a 12 yr old etc then that's perfectly legal.even though it falls under the category of pedophilia.

In fact, there have been moves to redefine pedophila. to restrict it to per-pubescence only. so that men who are attracted to pubertal children will no longer be considered pedophiles. ie children above age 13. At the end of the day, none of it matters legally. It is just the scientific body that is debating it. they are the ones who set all these definitions. legally, it is r.ape that is a crime.

when there is consent between two adults, then it is legal. infact, there r some people who love to suck their own or their partners blood. all sorts of fetish exist out there. nothing illegal about it. If someone was sucking a child's blood though, then that will be a problem.
this is ironic because children's rights do not exist in Africa. violence towards children, beatings etc is perfectly acceptable behavior in most African countries. developed countries take this seriously. laws are there to protect people from harm. whether adult or child and chidren especially since they are not capable of protecting themselves. child marriages in Nigeria is so rampant. 15 yr old girls married to old men. no biggie. yet they claim "moral" stance against homosexuals. wtf

just because something is unusual doesn't mean it is illegal. examples of parahilias include Acrotomophilia (attraction to amputated people), Gerontophilia (attraction to elderly people) etc. might be disgusting but hey, laws are (and should be) based on logic not morals. If I am attracted to people with crossed eyes or attracted to dwarfs, what is your own bloody business? should we start arresting any normal sized person who shows romantic interest in aki and pawpaw because it is "strange" or "disgusting"?

It is just a third world country mentality to look for scapegoats (esp. a minority or disliked group that can't easily defend itself is usually targeted). Just a lot of violent tendencies in people due to frustration in life. and just a general predisposition to "fit in" if you are too different from others around you, you will become a target of persecution (usually witchcraft).
ex. people who love to sleep with their legs placed on the wall being accused of witchcraft and beaten to death etc. ridiculous. I place my legs on the wall sometimes. who cares. somehow all these "witches" are women, children and elderly. coincidentally people who have little power in society to defend themselves from the majority mob ie people looking for scapegoats to blame their problems in life on others.

trust me, if you are wretched in life, it is not the gays, "witches" or minorities that are causing your wretchedness. hard to believe ain't it?
#africanmentality
https://www.nairaland.com/1506229/enugu-gov-family-disowns-first

Sagamite:
And your moronic arsse also claims that laws are not based on morals?

mink505:
your IQ is too low for simple concepts. in developed countries, government is SECULAR meaning that "morality has no place in law"
govt ain't no church, temple or mosque. keep your fake "morals" to yourself as long as u aren't harming any one. laws are based on logic. and the parliament or govt is there to debate laws to make sure that they make sense.

in Nigeria,u will see all of them corrupt fools claiming moral superiority over the nation.
even this fool sagamite keep rambling about deviant behavior, yet has a fetish for posting p.orn all over nairaland. Rubbish how is this behavior different from pakistan where alcohol is banned n illegal for being immoral yet 90% of the male population is addicted to chewing grass to get high. hahaha hypocrites. The middle east and especially Africa are ironically known for having the grossest human rights violation in d world. talk about morals. obsession with "deviant" behavior is stupid. if you are so obsessed with following the crowd, clearly corruption, violence, r.ape will never end since majority of people engage in it. all these vices keep Nigeria underdeveloped yet we choose to turn blind eye on it and focus on scapegoating those who look or act different from the norm. THe norn in Nigeria is corruption, violence, r.ape, adultery (a man who is faithful to his wife would probably be considered deviant) etc. a politician who is not corrupt in Nigeria will be condemned for being "deviant"
another word for deviant in African lingo is witchcraft. anybody who doesn't fit the norm must a witch. ahahah
#africanmentality #herdmentality #underdeveloped #middleages

western countries are developed for a reason and you sagamite, are typing comfortably from a western country while at the same time wishing Nigeria evil by not wanting it to develop. if you are really serious about your homophobia, there is no reason for you to be sitting in a western country . move back to Africa or the middle east. gbam.
enjoy your gay po,rn while you are at it. hypocrite.

mink505: If people decide that they want to go naked in the streets and they challenge the law, they will win. esp if that law is strictly moral.
here for example in NY after a woman took the police to court, it is now legal to go topless in public. police are ordered not to arrest any woman who goes topless. men are allowed to do so afterall.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/16/nyregion/a-police-roll-call-reminder-women-may-go-topless.html?_r=0
ex. if we see repeated offenses of people going naked in public, this will pass the message that people are serious about it. esp since USA favors human rights. it would be a disaster to keep persecuting and arresting them esp if it lands in the media and becomes a major story. ex. marijuana use is now legal in many parts of the USA. due to the high incarceration rates of weed smokers that cause it to turn into a human rights issue. infact, illegal immigrants are treated in such a way that would be considered very generous in most parts of the world. and that's all because of the respect of human rights. esp if the illegal immigrants came to the USA as children. by logic they shouldn't suffer for their parents' crimes.
In naija, nobody cares, even if they kill 500 gays, they will even pat themselves on the back. what a barbaric country.

keep in mind that the gays were first banned from marrying in the USA in 1971. and it took less than 30 yrs for people to come to the terms that gays weren't going anywhere. they challenged the law and they won.
and believe it or not, polygamy will eventually become legal in the USA [b]if[/b]the polygamists challenge it enough. the difference is that due to the rise in gender equality, you will see more women marrying multiple husbands. there will be more polyandry than polygamy. they will remain a minority though.
compared to a country like Nigeria or Pakistan, American laws are damn logical. laws aren't simply based on whether or not something is "deviant" that would be silly. tattoos are popular now, but at a certain point they were deviant. etc. it just takes a while for the rest of d world to catch up, that's all.

the fact that you made a post thinking it will redeem you from your ignorance and low IQ dumbness is very comical.

Johnpaul88: Do you really mind that hypocrite that calls himself sagamite? This is how he's always running around all gay titled threads here in nairaland, claiming to hate it like a plague, but he never fails to go back to them. People who hate gays does not even go to their threads and if by chance they do, they never go back.

Sagamite:

You are a pure person!

I thought you said in developed countries, government is SECULAR meaning that "morality has no place in law"?

person, now it is they have morality in law, you just need to challenge it?

Can you see your IQ is low?

person, please answer that before we go back to your moronic "fetish" claims and the moronic "Pakistan" rants.

You will know I am your God, Alpha ati Omega, when it comes to intelligence.

beryl04:
This foooool ,ur still running around on this thread brandishing ur ignorance and misplaced hate that is at best comical.btw,Xmas is here and ur still typing from London,u are such a huge joke and it's a good thing every right thinking mind on this forum has got to know u for what are >:

Sagamite:

You are a pure aids-infested person!

Can you see how you pansy fagggot person friend ran?

Moorons should never be coming here and be talking about IQ. ;

Every right thinking mind knows you are mentally ill and need a cure, not acceptance.

Magic Bishop: I will just live this here

http://theync.com/shocking/16456-extremely-disturbing-video.htm
Phaggots getting their groove own.

They don't stop even when the poor dude is sh1ting blood all over the place

Warning:A you-can't-unwatch-this-and-the-world-as-you-know-it-will-never-be-the-same RATED

osystein:

Apart from the fact that linking to that site goes against this forum's rules, how does that video add anything to the discussion? I'm certain that one can find heterosexual material just as gruesome as the prison rape video you linked to.
Btw, what was it that drew you interest to that video? You are one of those hypocritical Nigerians the article above was about. Do you enjoy searching and viewing homosexual material online?

This guy is most definitely a closet gay.

beryl04:

Don't worry dear, we already know who's got a hi IQ and who's got 1 one that's akin to that of an ape

Sagamite:

Yeah, don't just tell a poof person like Johnpaul88 to state it because he would say that a poof person that said paedophilia is a fetish, while homosexuality is different and natural, is a world class genius.

Poof fucktards feeling enlightened!