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Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by BlackPeni5: 8:30am On Nov 08, 2013
In Anglophone West Africa[edit]
In early 20th century British West Africa and Liberia, The Sixth and Seventh Books was adopted widely. It served as a source for Christian Magic, both by West African spiritualist Christian cults and "assimilated" Africans. In Gold Coast colony and colonial Nigeria, it was seen as a "western" form of magic, which might be used by educated Africans seeking access to Britain or its power, much like Masonic ritual or Rosicrucianism. The Nigerian press in the 1920s regularly featured advertisements for copies of The Sixth and Seventh Books and other Christian occult books.[8]
West African religious movements which blended Christianity and traditional magic were also influenced by the work. Josiah Ollunowo Ositelu's seals and mystical written incantations, used in the Nigerian Church of the Lord (Aladura) were likely derived from The Sixth and Seventh Books.[8]

I think its time to grab my copy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_and_Seventh_Books_of_Moses
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 8:39am On Nov 08, 2013
I have read a bit of that stuff before. Its not about reading it, its about practising what you read.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by anthoniosp(m): 8:41am On Nov 08, 2013
i have the book.. nd b4 u cn succesfully perform a ritual they are vital things you can find only some places.. e.g dust of mount sinai...to cast a spell to control spirit of water u need a basin of water from jordan nd euphrates

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by shortgun(m): 9:01am On Nov 08, 2013
How do i get this book?

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 9:02am On Nov 08, 2013
anthoniosp: i have the book.. nd b4 u cn succesfully perform a ritual they are vital things you can find only some places.. e.g dust of mount sinai...to cast a spell to control spirit of water u need a basin of water from jordan nd euphrates

Its very Strenuous. In some, u have to fas for days, get salt water or sand from a beach, abeg the wahala plenty. People that actually practise it have time. When conjuring angels to, I think you have to get the pronounciation right. There are different angels governing each day and each hour. Anybody using thebook of moses must be very bold. I can't deal..........

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Acidosis(m): 9:11am On Nov 08, 2013
a very large percentage of Pastors and Prophets use this book!

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 08, 2013
Acidosis: a very large percentage of Pastors and Prophets use this book!


To what end? Would it make them goto heaven! Tsheeeeeeew. Maybe they can bribe their way to heaven!

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 08, 2013
shortgun: How do i get this book?
its available online for download. Just google search.
@OP. I used to have the book. I read some few stuffs in it, I was discouraged when I could hardly comprehend what's written in it...to me it seems unpracticable

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by ajayikayod: 10:13am On Nov 08, 2013
Acidosis: a very large percentage of Pastors and Prophets use this book!



Can u give us names and video clips?

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Acidosis(m): 1:28pm On Nov 08, 2013
sandijey:
To what end? Would it make them goto heaven! Tsheeeeeeew. Maybe they can bribe their way to heaven!

I didnt say that ma...

The book is demonic...
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Acidosis(m): 1:39pm On Nov 08, 2013
ajayikayod:

Can u give us names and video clips?

Nah.. I can't give names..

and showing you a video clip is almost impossible..
They use the book in hidden places in their closets...and then come out to the congregation in suit, tie and bible to perform magic (the so called 'miracle').

Most of them got their power from that 7 book of Moses and other magical books..

Do I need to say, the result of seeking such powers is usually brutal not only in Hell but here on earth..
It could lead to permanent insanity, instant death..

Some of your Pastors and Prophets know exactly what I am saying.


Back then in the 90s, we used to see and watch magicians, seers etc... I even remember the Abracadabra show way back on NTA...
But where are all these men (magicians) today? LOL..

Look around Lagos, you'll find them in your Churches...

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by ajayikayod: 2:03pm On Nov 08, 2013
Acidosis:

Nah.. I can't give names..

and showing you a video clip is almost impossible..
They use the book in hidden places in their closets...and then come out to the congregation in suit, tie and bible to perform magic (the so called 'miracle').

Most of them got their power from that 7 book of Moses and other magical books..

Do I need to say, the result of seeking such powers is usually brutal not only in Hell but here on earth..
It could lead to permanent insanity, instant death..

Some of your Pastors and Prophets know exactly what I am saying.


Back then in the 90s, we used to see and watch magicians, seers etc... I even remember the Abracadabra show way back on NTA...
But where are all these men (magicians) today? LOL..

Look around Lagos, you'll find them in your Churches...

Bro, if u dont hav evidence of wat u say then stop saying such. U hav no prove, no source of d info u have.
If u can giv us at least one name/d video clips for ds claim then we can listen to u. Till then, just go about ur own biz not others.

Thanks.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by BlackPeni5: 9:07pm On Nov 08, 2013
ajayikayod:

Bro, if u dont hav evidence of wat u say then stop saying such. U hav no prove, no source of d info u have.
If u can giv us at least one name/d video clips for ds claim then we can listen to u. Till then, just go about ur own biz not others.

Thanks.

Bros...it's not about calling names or giving videos. even if you see all the videos in the world, you will still believe whatever you want.

My only questions on this issue is that, if Moses was a prophet of God and the book was actually written by him. Then why do people classify it as demonic?

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by ajayikayod: 10:29pm On Nov 08, 2013
Black Peni5:

Bros...it's not about calling names or giving videos. even if you see all the videos in the world, you will still believe whatever you want.

I only asked for just one name/clips not all d video in d whole world. If he cant provide one then i wonder how he got such claim.



My only questions on this issue is that, if Moses was a prophet of God and the book was actually written by him. Then why do people classify it as demonic?

Well people will answer dt if u can see "people".
I believe no body stopped u from using it or teachin from it so why are u bothered about others. Is lik sayin why is people saying we shouldnt take much sugar since sugar is sooo sweet. Well no one stopped u from taking it all d time.

So, wat u asked is not a question but a quest for ur ambitious self.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Yooguyz: 10:43pm On Nov 08, 2013
ajayikayod:

Bro, if u dont hav evidence of wat u say then stop saying such. U hav no prove, no source of d info u have.
If u can giv us at least one name/d video clips for ds claim then we can listen to u. Till then, just go about ur own biz not others.

Thanks.

the e-olodo is just looking for attention. I wonder why you are wasting your time responding to him. Mtcheeeew
black peni5: My only questions on this
issue is that, if Moses was a
prophet of God and the book
was actually written by him.
Then why do people classify it
as demonic?
^^ he's obviously into the occult. He just conjured that majority-of-pastors-are-into-it claim so that he can gain acceptance from you.
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by BlackPeni5: 10:11am On Nov 09, 2013
ajayikayod:

I only asked for just one name/clips not all d video in d whole world. If he cant provide one then i wonder how he got such claim.



Well people will answer dt if u can see "people".
I believe no body stopped u from using it or teachin from it so why are u bothered about others. Is lik sayin why is people saying we shouldnt take much sugar since sugar is sooo sweet. Well no one stopped u from taking it all d time.

So, wat u asked is not a question but a quest for ur ambitious self.

Funny boy...Even Acidiosis who you were attacking said and I quote "The book is demonic" besides, he is not the only one saying it....Clearly you done have a point of view and you have nothing to contribute.
Also, No pastor will be stupid enough to make a video of himself conjuring powers from a book when it will destroy the impression he's creating for his congregation...Thus your request for a video is Silly to say the least.

Yooguyz:

the e-olodo is just looking for attention. I wonder why you are wasting your time responding to him. Mtcheeeew

^^ he's obviously into the occult. He just conjured that majority-of-pastors-are-into-it claim so that he can gain acceptance from you.


My brother, you did not answer my question...its either you did not understand the question or you are afraid of the answer. In either case, I think its better you keep quiet. I did not write the article on wikipedia. I did not write the seventh book of Moses...If these books written by a prophet of God are occultic then who has the justification to tell me that the other parts of the Bible are not.

What defines a man is not the source of his Power but what he chooses to use it for. If I chose to join the occult world, that would be between me and God, not you.

Now If anyone has anything logical to say, it is welcome...But keep all your religious sentiments to yourselves.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by ajayikayod: 10:47am On Nov 09, 2013
Black Peni5:

Funny boy...Even Acidiosis who you were attacking said and I quote "The book is demonic" besides, he is not the only one saying it....Clearly you done have a point of view and you have nothing to contribute.

Well, i m not attacking him, i only request for evidence (a name/clips). Dts 2 back his claim and i m still waiting. U can contact d " people" 2giv u evidence at least one of ur people should hav one prove, then we can talk. But 4now u r only relying on wat u heard during ur teenage.


Also, No pastor will be stupid enough to make a video of himself conjuring powers from a book when it will destroy the impression he's creating for his congregation...Thus your request for a video is Silly to say the least.

And ur own claim is baseless. Is dt how u go around gossiping about wat u dont kno? U do follow follow on dem say dem say wit out a single evidence. Be mature in ur claims so dt u wont end up bad wit all unproven info u carry about.
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 11:25pm On Nov 09, 2013
Magical practice and religion are inextricably linked. I would say that the use of the 6 & 7 Books of Moses is left mainly to the loony fringe in their corrugated tin "churches", frankly there are better volumes out there, for instance, the writings of St. Ignatius of Loyola. However, the (attempt of )use of magical rites by many "pastors" does persist, It is no coincidence that a large proportion of present day Pentecostal pastors have their roots in the old traditional K&S and CCC churches, I have seen Pentecostal pastors, overseers e.t.c under the guise of "speaking in tongues"attempt magical passes on their congregation.

The results of mis-application are often swift and debilitating. In one horrible case in a church in the gateway area, the "pastor" in question, a member of a particularly toxic nocturnal group had spiritually assigned himself an anagram of " I AM....", he paid a stunning and spectacular price, the demon he unleashed was especially pathetic and lacked intelligence to do anything other than simply feed on him. I helped with the exorcism and we had to use a deliverance prayer that could be found only in ancient Sanskrit. This was about twelve years ago, today the gentleman’s "ministry" is everywhere. People should be careful.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Yooguyz: 10:22am On Nov 10, 2013
Sarassin: Magical practice and religion are inextricably linked. I would say that the use of the 6 & 7 Books of Moses is left mainly to the loony fringe in their corrugated tin "churches", frankly there are better volumes out there, for instance, the writings of St. Ignatius of Loyola. However, the (attempt of )use of magical rites by many "pastors" does persist, It is no coincidence that a large proportion of present day Pentecostal pastors have their roots in the old traditional K&S and CCC churches, I have seen Pentecostal pastors, overseers e.t.c under the guise of "speaking in tongues"attempt magical passes on their congregation.

The results of mis-application are often swift and debilitating. In one horrible case in a church in the gateway area, the "pastor" in question, a member of a particularly toxic nocturnal group had spiritually assigned himself an anagram of " I AM....", he paid a stunning and spectacular price, the demon he unleashed was especially pathetic and lacked intelligence to do anything other than simply feed on him. I helped with the exorcism and we had to use a deliverance prayer that could be found only in ancient Sanskrit. This was about twelve years ago, today the gentleman’s "ministry" is everywhere. People should be careful.

i have gone through all your posts and i percieve you are an occultic man. You operate with the spirit of the anti-christ, the spirit that trys to counter-feit Jesus' power.
Why go for the counter-feit that won't last, that's not durable! When the power that surpasses all power is available for you, through the atoning work of Jesus on the cross of calvary.
No stringent conditions is attached! Just plain repentance and confession of Jesus as your Lord and saviour and at the snap of fingers you are saved!

It's never to late for you to be delivered you know?

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 2:03pm On Nov 10, 2013
Yooguyz:

i have gone through all your posts and i percieve you are an occultic man. You operate with the spirit of the anti-christ, the spirit that trys to counter-feit Jesus' power.
Why go for the counter-feit that won't last, that's not durable! When the power that surpasses all power is available for you, through the atoning work of Jesus on the cross of calvary.
No stringent conditions is attached! Just plain repentance and confession of Jesus as your Lord and saviour and at the snap of fingers you are saved!

It's never to late for you to be delivered you know?

Sorry, I can’t be bothered to repay the favour by reading all your posts, but I perceive you are a clown and an ignorant one at that. Now here’s a suggestion, why don’t you run along and find some other poor fool to bother ?

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 2:44pm On Nov 10, 2013
Sarassin:

Sorry, I can’t be bothered to repay the favour by reading all your posts, but I perceive you are a clown and an ignorant one at that. Now here’s a suggestion, why don’t you run along and find some other poor fool to bother ?

Epic reply grin
1000 likes

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Yooguyz: 4:23pm On Nov 10, 2013
Sarassin:

Sorry, I can’t be bothered to repay the favour by reading all your posts, but I perceive you are a clown and an ignorant one at that. Now here’s a suggestion, why don’t you run along and find some other poor fool to bother ?
SMH....
My post wasn't mean't to insult you, it's just the plain truth! Take it or leave it, i've done my part, it's left for the holy ghost to convict you..

Btw am not afraid of you.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 10:05pm On Nov 10, 2013
Yooguyz:
SMH....
My post wasn't mean't to insult you, it's just the plain truth! Take it or leave it, i've done my part, it's left for the holy ghost to convict you..

Btw am not afraid of you.

You wouldn’t recognise the truth if it fell out of the sky and landed on your head!

I thank you for your concern about the welfare of my soul, but it is unsolicited…..I am sure there are others out there who will welcome your message of “holy ghost conviction” why don’t you give them a try ?

Oh, you say, you aren’t afraid of me ? well......that’s nice and dandy for you..... I could care less.
If you have a theological point you wish to debate, then by all means open a thread, other than that, please walk on by.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by socrateez(m): 11:30pm On Nov 10, 2013
The so-called 6th & 7th books of Moses were not written by Moses but the occult masters who wrote the book attributed it to Moses to hide their identity and seek for relevance and acceptance. From the posts above, it's obvious that it is a book of magical incantations and conjurations, despicable acts condemned by God and concerning which He specifically warned Israel not to participate in Canaan. Anyone who possesses this book should know that all satans apples have worms. stocking occultic books have repercussions so I advise you dispose them off.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by Nobody: 2:29am On Nov 11, 2013
socrateez: The so-called 6th & 7th books of Moses were not written by Moses but the occult masters who wrote the book attributed it to Moses to hide their identity and seek for relevance and acceptance. From the posts above, it's obvious that it is a book of magical incantations and conjurations, despicable acts condemned by God and concerning which He specifically warned Israel not to participate in Canaan. Anyone who possesses this book should know that all satans apples have worms. stocking occultic books have repercussions so I advise you dispose them off.

Actually, the books are derived from Jewish Mystical order of kabbalah, and adapted for African use. This is obvious in the use of the Tetragrammaton as well as pentacles, i.e squares of letters. In addition, we see the use of double Acrostics that is a feature of particular Psalms in the OT (for those in adversary) The antecedents of the books are clearly rooted in the worship of the God of Israel.

To the un-initiated the books are useless for the main reason that key steps and rites have been redacted or un-clarified at crucial stages. I would point out that there is a large genre in Christian magic, for instance, in one particular book of sacred magic the incantation for the invocation of the good spirits begin with the words[i]….in the name of the blessed and the holy trinity[/i], also in the Jesuit tradition, the mysticism of St. Ignatius is alive and kicking today.

Most people who have the books are unlikely to have authentic versions.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by pastormustwac: 6:55am On Nov 11, 2013
sandijey:

Its very Strenuous. In some, u have to fas for days, get salt water or sand from a beach, abeg the wahala plenty. People that actually practise it have time. When conjuring angels to, I think you have to get the pronounciation right. There are different angels governing each day and each hour. Anybody using thebook of moses must be very bold. I can't deal..........
Abeg give me the book jor make i show you how to use am to dethrone seun from NL. . .
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by pastormustwac: 6:56am On Nov 11, 2013
sandijey:
To what end? Would it make them goto heaven! Tsheeeeeeew. Maybe they can bribe their way to heaven!
You are wrong to believe those pastors are interested in heaven = na money them need and fame! Them go repent last minute before them die.
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by okpurukata(f): 7:31am On Nov 11, 2013
socrateez: The so-called 6th & 7th books of Moses were not written by Moses but the occult masters who wrote the book attributed it to Moses to hide their identity and seek for relevance and acceptance. From the posts above, it's obvious that it is a book of magical incantations and conjurations, despicable acts condemned by God and concerning which He specifically warned Israel not to participate in Canaan. Anyone who possesses this book should know that all satans apples have worms. stocking occultic books have repercussions so I advise you dispose them off.

But this same conjuring and incantations is what most pentecostal churches do today. Even trying to use the bible to back it up. Mst especially psalms. That is why I maintain that Nigerian Pentecostalism is a hybrid of Christianity and traditional/occultic practices. Only very few of them are truly Christian churches.

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by BlackPeni5: 3:35pm On Nov 11, 2013
okpurukata:

But this same conjuring and incantations is what most pentecostal churches do today. Even trying to use the bible to back it up. Mst especially psalms. That is why I maintain that Nigerian Pentecostalism is a hybrid of Christianity and traditional/occultic practices. Only very few of them are truly Christian churches.

Hmmmmm....interesting.
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by AYODEJI4LOVE(m): 5:19pm On Nov 11, 2013
seven book of moses...............have heard about it before but i do not know the book is so much in circulation like downloading it on the net........whao thanks so much for the little insight you have given us in regards to the book @sandijay, @socrateez, @sarrassin.......atleast i wont be a novice when people talk about it......................but never the less please people who have it....just be careful......looking at people contribution so far ,it seems it also have adverse effect ..........to those who do not have it...........please do not attempt it..........looking at the contribution of people above .......is like they dont recomend it for reading.......so beware................atleat

WHAT IS THE REWARD OR GAIN OF A MAN WHO GAIN THE WHOLE WORD(DO MIRACLES,PERFORM EXPLOIT,LOADED WITH POWER) AND LOOSES HIS SOUL...........................

IT IS WHAT WE NEED THAT IS GIVEN TO US IN THE HOLY BIBLE..................

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Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by pastormustwac: 11:06pm On Nov 11, 2013
Black Peni5:

Funny boy...Even Acidiosis who you were attacking said and I quote "The book is demonic" besides, he is not the only one saying it....Clearly you done have a point of view and you have nothing to contribute.
Also, No pastor will be stupid enough to make a video of himself conjuring powers from a book when it will destroy the impression he's creating for his congregation...Thus your request for a video is Silly to say the least.



My brother, you did not answer my question...its either you did not understand the question or you are afraid of the answer. In either case, I think its better you keep quiet. I did not write the article on wikipedia. I did not write the seventh book of Moses...If these books written by a prophet of God are occultic then who has the justification to tell me that the other parts of the Bible are not.

What defines a man is not the source of his Power but what he chooses to use it for. If I chose to join the occult world, that would be between me and God, not you.

Now If anyone has anything logical to say, it is welcome...But keep all your religious sentiments to yourselves.
If i understand your logic correctly, you are trying to say that a man can be deemed as good if he gathers 'dark' powers like 7th book of uses and uses it for good? Am i wrong?
Re: Sixth And Seventh Books Of Moses - The Power Source For Our Miracle Pastors by BlackPeni5: 6:52am On Nov 12, 2013
pastormustwac:
If i understand your logic correctly, you are trying to say that a man can be deemed as good if he gathers 'dark' powers like 7th book of uses and uses it for good? Am i wrong?

Why do you call it dark when it originated from one of the Greatest Jewish, Christian and even Muslim Prophet of all time.

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