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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by VicGoodGuy(m): 12:54am On Nov 12, 2013
Whoever came up with that 8-hours idea must be a Senior Apprentice of the Devil (SAD)

You need to board a bus from Agbara to Mile 2 to understand why I said so. You spend up to 4 hours on that trip alone.

So what they are saying in essence is, commercial buses plying that route will do only one 'go-come' a day? Arrant Nonsense! This proposal has already failed even before it saw the light of day.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by vislabraye(m): 12:56am On Nov 12, 2013
Its so easy for people to seat down and make rules. Do they really think ? When Lagos State should be thinking of how to stop agberos from extorting money from drivers, they're adding theirs.

If its GEJ, APC goons will start abusing him on twitter. Rubbish.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by chyoski21: 12:57am On Nov 12, 2013
8 hours? Would dey begin to monitor the tym d driver starts work and calculate abi dere is a stipulated starting and ending tym? If the latter is d case dn it's soooo not going d work considering d fact dat some pppl work really late at night and some leave very early in d morning..I don't see that amounting to 8hrs...abegi dey shud tink of a more proficient strategy
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by drdams: 1:02am On Nov 12, 2013
Then he should ensure BRT buses work from 7am - 11.30pm daily or to say the least, they should take over once the daily clock for Danfo ends.

And finally, these BRT buses must ply all the routes in these bus drivers' absentia..
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Toksytoks(m): 1:03am On Nov 12, 2013
Uyi Iredia: This is stüpid from the Fashola administration. Once again, they're legislation is cut-off from the realities of the poor man on the streets. 8hrs a day will not earn you a good deal except your raise the prices of commuting in a city where things are expensive: not to mention the nonsense that will enter enforcement_corruption (like everything else).
What is d reality of the poor man on the street? Because we live in a country where things dont work doesnt mean people like fashola and opeifa shouldnt try to introduce sane laws. In America drivers are not allowed to drive 5 hrs at a stretch without taking a break, some states dont even allow more than 70hrs a week. These are people who value lives and know that driver fatigue can lead to accidents. Drive through ibadan - ogbomosho road half of the trailer and truck accidents are due to driver fatigue..its high time we reasoned like humans and not babarians.
Restrict okada on highways --poor man excuse
Ban on cart pushers --- poor man excuse
Street trading on kerbs --- poor man excuse
Ban on unpainted cabs and buses --poor man excuse
Makoko residents extensively colonizing the lagoon with unapproved structures---poor man excuse
Illegal abbaroirs selling unhealthy meat---poor man excuse.
Are there no poor men in cotonou, cote d'ivoire and Ghana? Why is their country saner than ours?
Some people believe that for the 'poor man' to survive the society has to be lawless..
Google ' driving time' and read up researches before bringing up your 'poor man' excuse. Will you rather board a cheap bus with 80% chance of you ending up in d lagoon due to driver fatigue.
Some companies and banks force workers to work for up to 13hrs per day, absolutely babaric.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by eledalo: 1:09am On Nov 12, 2013
I'm less concerned with these strange policies of LSG, than the POOR implementation:
Since 2007, LSG has banned:
Truck pushers
Street traders
Hawkers
Okadas (on many routes)
Parking on the road
Conductors hanging off buses.

BUT THEY HAVE TOTALLY FAILED IN ENFORCING EACH AND EVERY ONE!
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by lastpage: 1:10am On Nov 12, 2013
Godyke: All we read and hear everyday is clamp down on those who carry out legitimate means of livelihood. Nobody is talking about the same traffic law that prohibits the national union and their Agbero counterparts from forcefully collecting money from commercial motorists at every bus stops, highways and places other than major garages. Or have that part of the law been put on hold until after 2015 election.

Those TOUTS work for Opeifa and Fashola and his God Father 'Tinubu' so nothing will be done about them.

It just amazes me when these clowns in govt just do a "COPY AND PASTE" of legislation from overseas, into Nigeria, not taking into consideration our "peculiar environmental issues" that differ greatly from where they are copying from and creates a different set of scenario, for such laws!


8-HRS working time is very desirable and is obtainable in most advanced countries but hey, those drivers can organize their 8-hrs properly,
They can predict their income almost to the last dollar for those 8-hrs
They dont have Agbero to contend with, within that 8-hrs
They dont have "official LGA Touts to deal with within that 8-Hrs
They dont have to spend half of that 8-hrs in unending traffic snarls
They dont have useless Policemen shooting at them with life bullets if they dont part with part of their 8-hr income
They have a "social benefit" system which cushions their income of 8-hrs, should the unexpected happen
Their "car-testing and certification" really works unlike ours where the Govt is only interested in the "Testing Fee" and nothing more!
They dont operate within a Govt that closes down their wife's stall and every opportunity the Governors wife farts or his cronies cough!


I can go on and on but it is not necessary.

Our leaders are past their sell-by date, not fit ofr purpose and completely EXPIRED!
8-hrs working time is not top of the list of this govts problem.

For emphasis, build more roads (not those one-season, rain-wash-away make-overs called roads) and open up access for smoother traffic
*Create alternative to road traffic, buod 4th mainland Bridge and other roads. Main Rail and Light rail inter-city systems is needed.
*Stop buying over-used and written-off Buses as new ones to be used as BRT. Buy good and new Buses as obtained abroad.
*Remove all your street urchins from the road.
*Lets have stable power as a priority and other things will follow.
FInally, stop arming thugs for your political rascality, it comes back to hurt the populace ... and your own family, if not you, as well.

I don commot this thread.

Lastpage!

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by feezy(m): 1:14am On Nov 12, 2013
MEGA CITY HERE ع. COME..... Shaking my bumbum..... TUALE ON de UNIFORM
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Nobody: 1:18am On Nov 12, 2013
My problem with the Lagos State Govt is that they keep making strict traffic/transport laws without making alternative options available.

If they had commissioned the 1st phase of the Lagos light rail project, traffic on that route would have been contained and the use of Danfo buses would be unnecessary or minimal.

Regulating Danfo bus operating hours without giving commuters the choice of other options is not a good policy to me.

Just saying but I still Love FASHOLA sha grin

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by kiyosaki1(m): 1:21am On Nov 12, 2013
pastormustwac: What if a danfo driver drives more than one bus? He drives bus A for 8hrs plying route 1, bus B for another 8hrs plying route 2?
Thought as much.Bottom lìne to create additional income for the boys
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by corneremperor: 1:24am On Nov 12, 2013
Toksytoks:
What is d reality of the poor man on the street? Because we live in a country where things dont work doesnt mean people like fashola and opeifa shouldnt try to introduce sane laws. In America drivers are not allowed to drive 5 hrs at a stretch without taking a break, some states dont even allow more than 70hrs a week. These are people who value lives and know that driver fatigue can lead to accidents. Drive through ibadan - ogbomosho road half of the trailer and truck accidents are due to driver fatigue..its high time we reasoned like humans and not babarians.
Restrict okada on highways --poor man excuse
Ban on cart pushers --- poor man excuse
Street trading on kerbs --- poor man excuse
Ban on unpainted cabs and buses --poor man excuse
Makoko residents extensively colonizing the lagoon with unapproved structures---poor man excuse
Illegal abbaroirs selling unhealthy meat---poor man excuse.
Are there no poor men in cotonou, cote d'ivoire and Ghana? Why is their country saner than ours?
Some people believe that for the 'poor man' to survive the society has to be lawless..
Google ' driving time' and read up researches before bringing up your 'poor man' excuse. Will you rather board a cheap bus with 80% chance of you ending up in d lagoon due to driver fatigue.
Some companies and banks force workers to work for up to 13hrs per day, absolutely babaric.
Oh please! will you stop comparing nigeria to the USA? Have you stopped to compare the standard of living in both countries before making your comment? just cos you're well off and the law doesnt affect you doesnt mean you should come on here ranting like a madman. Your comment is a typical example of why Nigerians will never be able to unite against this oppressive government.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by ConcernMan: 1:32am On Nov 12, 2013
The Lagos Tenancy Law came in 2011 and sky rocketed the rent of houses in Lagos. I see doom in the transport sector in Lagos State if this law is ever enforce.
Lagosians get ready to trek from Island to mainland. It is now operation get your own car.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by UyiIredia(m): 1:41am On Nov 12, 2013
mcdokwe: good measure to reduce road accidents due to drowsiness

Silly thinking. Pilots fly for longer at greater risk. Do you think this will be allowed if the risk of drowsiness was much: you do know aitomated flight and a co-pilot notwithstanding a pilot might have to fly awake for 10hrs non-stop. If you should, in all ignorance_kind sir_doubt I have more examples.
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by UyiIredia(m): 1:52am On Nov 12, 2013
corneremperor:
Oh please! will you stop comparing nigeria to the USA? Have you stopped to compare the standard of living in both countries before making your comment? just cos you're well off and the law doesnt affect you doesnt mean you should come on here ranting like a madman. Your comment is a typical example of why Nigerians will never be able to unite against this oppressive government.

It is ignorant folks like him that will praise the goverment for privatizing the power sector and applaud increased tarrif after our goverment has gulped $16bn and failed to revamp the power sector. I will deal with his post later.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by 360command: 1:52am On Nov 12, 2013
Lagos state govt,please put a ban on the numbers of people sitting on a row which is usually 4 on a sit. We need 3 on a sit.
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by UyiIredia(m): 1:58am On Nov 12, 2013
lee007: This is why Lagos is miles head of other states of the country

Miles ahead and far behind Johanessburg. In fact, that's too much. Cairo, damn, again too much. Accra will do. Better light, less corruption and better name.

lee007: ....didn't I read from this same nairaland that BRT will not last one year, same Idiot are queuing up to take a ride in it every morning.


Okay.

lee007: Before throwing the idea away, do you think Lagos strategist are that lazy like you guys in the SS/SE who won't have a way to implement their plan?

What way have they ? And you are yet to maje a counter-point. Or should I assume you are not half as smart as Fashola ?

lee007: You people's case is like a man who never sees anything good about his neighbor even though the man is doing better than him.

Oh shut up. This one calls for criticism. I have praised the government where I think or am sure they made sense.

lee007: By the way If you dont like Lagos move to Bayelsa...at least there is fresh air there......awon oni kobo kobo....smh


So that's it. An empty rant that fails at rebutting my points. Come back when you are not as stüpid as Fashola when it comes to certain laws eg this one. Tell how the state will for example, not hurt the pocket of the drivers or commuter with this law.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Lucasbalo(m): 2:08am On Nov 12, 2013
Toksytoks:
What is d reality of the poor man on the street? Because we live in a country where things dont work doesnt mean people like fashola and opeifa shouldnt try to introduce sane laws. In America drivers are not allowed to drive 5 hrs at a stretch without taking a break, some states dont even allow more than 70hrs a week. These are people who value lives and know that driver fatigue can lead to accidents. Drive through ibadan - ogbomosho road half of the trailer and truck accidents are due to driver fatigue..its high time we reasoned like humans and not babarians. H
Restrict okada on highways --poor man excuse
Ban on cart pushers --- poor man excuse
Street trading on kerbs --- poor man excuse
Ban on unpainted cabs and buses --poor man excuse
Makoko residents extensively colonizing the lagoon with unapproved structures---poor man excuse
Illegal abbaroirs selling unhealthy meat---poor man excuse.
Are there no poor men in cotonou, cote d'ivoire and Ghana? Why is their country saner than ours?
Some people believe that for the 'poor man' to survive the society has to be lawless..
Google ' driving time' and read up researches before bringing up your 'poor man' excuse. Will you rather board a cheap bus with 80% chance of you ending up in d lagoon due to driver fatigue.
Some companies and banks force workers to work for up to 13hrs per day, absolutely babaric.
You make a whole lot of sense. Kudos to u and I hope a lot of Nigerians think like you.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by adconline(m): 2:18am On Nov 12, 2013
Emperor Fashola, making laws that are unenforceable!

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by sleemfesh: 2:50am On Nov 12, 2013
That's complete crap. Lagos has shown a penchant for putting the cart before the horse. Its not advancement. It is being callous to the working class who are the power of any city state. Do n finish the rails first and maintain the roads and this situation will sort itself as less buses will ply the roads.

This is just another phase in the glorification of touts in this city which Lagos seems so comfortable with. It stiffles growth and I'll disposes folks to civility. We don't need such laws. First things first. The secondary ones will fall in line.
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Toyosie: 2:58am On Nov 12, 2013
U jst spoke ma mind,I wonder o
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by sleemfesh: 3:02am On Nov 12, 2013
Toksytoks:
What is d reality of the poor man on the street? Because we live in a country where things dont work doesnt mean people like fashola and opeifa shouldnt try to introduce sane laws. In America drivers are not allowed to drive 5 hrs at a stretch without taking a break, some states dont even allow more than 70hrs a week. These are people who value lives and know that driver fatigue can lead to accidents. Drive through ibadan - ogbomosho road half of the trailer and truck accidents are due to driver fatigue..its high time we reasoned like humans and not babarians.
Restrict okada on highways --poor man excuse
Ban on cart pushers --- poor man excuse
Street trading on kerbs --- poor man excuse
Ban on unpainted cabs and buses --poor man excuse
Makoko residents extensively colonizing the lagoon with unapproved structures---poor man excuse
Illegal abbaroirs selling unhealthy meat---poor man excuse.
Are there no poor men in cotonou, cote d'ivoire and Ghana? Why is their country saner than ours?
Some people believe that for the 'poor man' to survive the society has to be lawless..
Google ' driving time' and read up researches before bringing up your 'poor man' excuse. Will you rather board a cheap bus with 80% chance of you ending up in d lagoon due to driver fatigue.
Some companies and banks force workers to work for up to 13hrs per day, absolutely babaric.

This is the mentality making Nigeria not progress. Some things come first. You don't take the latter part of the development of a city from a developed world without putting in place the things they did to sustain it.

If people live on the ocean probably cos they can't afford a rent and you drive them away without first creating a system to absorb them, it is total waste of time n resource. They will creep back up and/or relocate to another similar area. That's life. No vacuum.

Let Lagos focus on the rail n road network and these issues will sort themselves out. This is another elevation of the ubiquitous road touts. Touts that the first ever traffic law should a outlawed.

Don't tell me about America or Europe. This is Lagos. We havent put in place what they have had to on order let those rules apply.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by mrvictor: 3:16am On Nov 12, 2013
myads890: Sounds like a plan. What are the exact steps they want to take? Are there going to be shifts? Is the government going to install more street lights so nights can be brighter? Are they going to look into the issue of overcrowding and over charging of fares? If they do implement the law will drivers have to pay touts and LASTMA at EVERY bus stop from whatever they can accumulate from 8 hours of work? Since the drivers are working less hours, will the state governtment reduce the prices of the numerous stickers they have to purchase? Most of these drivers own their vehicles and are therefore self employed, what right does the government have to dictate their working hours in the first place? Will the police stop collecting bribes from the drivers? We need to be enlightened a bit more about this

Good questions!
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by oraclefemi(m): 3:18am On Nov 12, 2013
This is not rocket science people, it is very simple, they will have designated colors for the buses that will work for the first 8hrs and another color for the second set that will work...so for example yellow buses for first 8hrs and blue buses for the later 8hrs...so once their time is due , they get off the road and another set comes on.
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Nobody: 3:24am On Nov 12, 2013
oraclefemi: This is not rocket science people, it is very simple, they will have designated colors for the buses that will work for the first 8hrs and another color for the second set that will work...so for example yellow buses for first 8hrs and blue buses for the later 8hrs...so once their time is due , they get off the road and another set comes on.

What if some yellow buses were stock in traffic past the hours of the yellow buses? How will law enforcement officers distinguish between buses working past their 8 hours shift and buses stocked in traffic? undecided

Maybe you should look at this in a "Rocket Science" perspective.

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by mrvictor: 3:29am On Nov 12, 2013
Fashola is fast running out of ideas. Too many policies within a short period.
APC wan commit foul inside their own 18yard box; that will be a cheap penalty kick to PDP...
APC might be in trouble in Lagos if PDP should field a strong candidate and if the people's votes would count by 2015 elections...
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by omoobajeje1(m): 3:35am On Nov 12, 2013
I believe there is a hidden agenda behind this. This is a simple business srategy for fashola to increase the number of BRT buses in Lagos and make more money from the masses.
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by kenny987(f): 4:33am On Nov 12, 2013
I don tire! Lemme ask:
1)These 'danfo' drivers/operators pay tax, sometimes multiple just to use the insufficient roads 2 ply their trade. What right has d govt to decide how many hours they spend on the road?
2)As is usually the case, unbearable traffic is the order of the day in Lagos. If a driver is stuck in said traffic and the '8th' hour comes upon him, what is he to do? Park his vehicle along with passengers? Forcefully eject passengers?

3)Why is this law not applicable to BRT drivers? No be d same road dem dey?
4)Why are touts and so called govt agents not forcefully 'retired' after 8 hrs?
5)What is in place 2 cushion the effect of lost revenue?
6)Who dictates to d govt what time frame within which to complete projects and deliver to the people considering that they use tax-payers money 2 carry out these projects?
7)Is it that they are to drive for 8hrs, rest for an hour or so and then resume? Abi after 8hrs they go home? If the former is the case, I'm sure it's already implemented cos 'body no be wood'! U see dem drivers, eating or even sleeping at intervals and then d struggle continues. However if the latter is the case then the next question comes in:
coolAre Fashola and his crew not finally losing it?
9)Is this law directed at d person of the driver ie that he shall not drive for more than 8hrs or the bus shld not be on the road 4 more than 8hrs at a stretch?
In other words, there shall be a driver and a co-driver, properly dressed in uniforms so at the 8th hour, the co-driver shall continue the race. Is that it?

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Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by Nobody: 4:36am On Nov 12, 2013
kenny987: I don tire! Lemme ask:
1)These 'danfo' drivers/operators pay tax, sometimes multiple just to use the insufficient roads 2 ply their trade. What right has d govt to decide how many hours they spend on the road?
2)As is usually the case, unbearable traffic is the order of the day in Lagos. If a driver is stuck in said traffic and the '8th' hour comes upon him, what is he to do? Park his vehicle along with passengers? Forcefully eject passengers?
3)Why is this law not applicable to BRT drivers? No be d same road dem dey?
4)Why are touts and so called govt agents not forcefully 'retired' after 8 hrs?
5)What is in place 2 cushion the effect of lost revenue?
6)Who dictates to d govt what time frame within which to complete projects and deliver to the people considering that they use tax-payers money 2 carry out these projects?
7)Are Fashola and his crew not finally losing it?

Spot on! Couldn't agree more
Re: Lagos Restricts Danfo Drivers To 8-Hrs Of Work by shegzy23: 4:40am On Nov 12, 2013
grin

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