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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:05am On Nov 14, 2013
greggng: Lawyer I bought a quater plot of land at new okooba were I built 3bed room. I have deed of assignment and I did the surveryor and my lawyer told me is free from acquision. My problem now is that the achitect told me I cant have a c of o except I will team up with the landlord to secure one. In that case whose name will be there?

If both of you have a cordial relationship, you could both apply to have the C of O made jointly in your name. It will be disasterous if you allow your neighbour's name be the sole name on the C of O because it could lead to so many complications in future in case you want to sell the land or your children want to inherit it or you want to use it for a loan. Your Architect is right and i would advise you to heed his words.

Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:08am On Nov 14, 2013
sleekdre:

Lawyer, thanks for this info. I'm looking at buying a land around LBS/pan african university dat a friend of mine wants to sell to me. I've not been to d land yet. I'll like you to investigate this land for me b4 I go ahead with. I'll need your contact so I can give u d land title documents.

Thanks for the response. My details are below my i.d and you can get in touch with me via my website www.omonilelawyer.com for more info on how to go about it. Cheers

Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:11am On Nov 14, 2013
Eyop: Lawyer i appreciate your job. However to add to what bfmconcepts asked,i will like to know what will happen if after paying #50,000 for the search fee and after conducting your search and it turns out negative like what happened to this man you mentioned,does it mean the #50k is gone without any achievement?

Because i am considering a situation where by after paying #50k and the 1st search turns out negative and i present another land matter to you,will it still warrant i pay another #50,000?

The N50,000 Land Verification Retainer will cover a period of 1 month. If at the end of the first search, we find out that there are issues or encumbrances on that property, the Client is entitled to select another Property within that same month from the moment we are instructed to conduct another search at no extra cost . If by the end of the search period we haven’t secured you a property that meets your approval based on our Verification Report, you have the option to pay a further Retainer to extend the search for subsequent land verification checks. We feel your pain that is why we are not always happy when a search has gone wrong or we discover that the land has issues. We have a history of turning down so many lands and continuing the search for the Client till we are both satisfied. Money isn't the issue here but peace of mind and ability to build in comfort.

Learn more about our services on http://omonilelawyer.com/land-verification-service/our-fees/

Cheers

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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:18am On Nov 14, 2013
baffylander: Do people still buy land(s) without authenticating the veracity or otherwise of same especially in a fast-developing city like lagos? ...like seriously ...i give up... A dumb person will always remain a dumb person...

Please sir, don't say that. Most people who buy lands buy them out of ignorance because they don't know the laws or procedure on how to avoid buying defective lands. Everything is shrouded in secrecy and these fraudulent land sellers come up with different scams everyday to deceive people and truthfully even though i have been doing this business for more than 5 years now, i am still learning on the job. I was almost scammed yesterday and i thought i was a guru in it and know every land scam trick in the book.

There is no sane Nigerian who would throw Millions of Naira away if they know that land is bad. Its because we don't know that is why they fall for these scammers and its our duty to help them survive these painful periods they are going through while consciously trying to avoid being the next victims of such land scams.

Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:26am On Nov 14, 2013
Edoblakky: Permit me to share an experience. Over 2 years ago, I contracted a lawyer who seemed vast in land matters to buy a certain land in Osapa London. He charged me 200k to do search and to negotiate the land in my favour. I paid him after buying the land for 10M and found out I'd been hoodwinked. I called the lawyer and demanded for everything I spent. He seemed coorperating and we started recovering my money and he later took off and I've not seen him as we speak. Though it took me over 2 years to recover my money by myself. Now, I know better as I bought another land at Ikate also in Lekki. I used another Lawyer who did a thorough search and filed the search documents for me to see. Pls if you pay a lawyer to do search on a land, ask the lawyer to give you a documented proof

Wow N200,000 for search! shocked Na wah o! People get Mind Sha! Very Glad you recovered your money. Its not a pleasant experience to fall victim to these scammers. I have being a victim of a land scammer and i know the pains you must have gone through. I thank God for your life and your added wisdom to always do a search before you buy your next land
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lawyer(m): 2:59am On Nov 14, 2013
Thanks for your posts Sir. You raised some observations about my posts and i will try to clear the air on them in a satsifactorily way.

NSTC: Mr Lawyer indeed most of your post are valuable and does help a lot of people,i personally think it is unfair to bring up this particular matter in the way you did.
Yes you offered your services to the said man but he chose not to employ your services,he hasn't really done anything wrong by that. If i lost 5 million Naira the last thing i want is to read all about it online,especially from a professional that should know all about confidentiality. There are several post in which you have advised people about the dangers of purchasing properties without due diligence and am sure a lot of Nairalanders are grateful for that but it is absolutely unnecessary to score points out of another person's loss ,especially if that person can come across all the " bullets " fired his way. i.e " one chance "

First of all sir, i have taken the time and pain to blot out the name of the person, the area that is committed and the surveyors name that drew up the Survey plan so no body can accuse me of scoring points out of another person's loss. Rather it is to show people a live example of a document that could lead a future buyer into problems if he or she fails to heed the advise of people like me not to do a land search.

Secondly, am bringing this up not because i did not do this search but because there are so many people like him that choose the easy way out and when there is a problem they run back to the original source to help them solve a difficult problem. I know the solution to his problem and i can easily bill him 500,000 and choose not to write about this danger but i have chosen to teach people how to avoid such based on the document and not the person's loss. Remember he hired another lawyer and surveyor to do his work and still came out short. How do you explain this gross Incompetence?

Finally you are a pro. and reserve the right to charge whatever amount you feel your services are worth but it doesn't really cost 50k to verify the status of any land. I wouldn't have mentioned this but for the fact you seem to always give the impression you are out to help people save cost.
As recently as 4 months ago i instructed a Lawyer to conduct a search on 2 properties and he only charged me 20k for both ,though i must say the plots are on the same block. And he specifically told me it will only cost him 3k each at Alausa, he is a friend and knows that won't stop me paying for his services.

This in no way discredit the good work you do by educating people about the intricacies of purchasing Landed properties,all i say is be professional to the core. Salut

Thanks for calling me a pro but i would pick holes in your above statement and break down the cost of what the search entails.

Doing a search for a property that has a C/O manually costs roughly 4000 but that is not the cost of getting a Certified true copy of the search. Did he give you a certified true copy of the search report? If he did, then you would know its not N3K as you stated above. I don't do manual searches, I make sure i have the hard copy proof from the Land Bureau office to back up my claim and you can see many of them i have posted on Nairaland for free.

Secondly you must have searched a government scheme or residential private estate with a layout and once you search one, you have searched all of them. Why then should he charge you for 3 k each when all the blocks and layout cost the same thing. I dont think he was saving you money there. Finally why charge you 20k when his only job was to go to the land search office to jot out the search report? Did he go to the site to take the coordinates with a surveyor? How much do you think it is to call a registered surveyor to go to a site and confirm the coordinates and give you a detailed report? 3K?

Our search fees cover alot of things ranging from going to the Seller or Omoniles place of residence wherever they are staying or hiding, tracing the other family members or sellers, going to the Land bureau to confirm if the C of O or gazette is authentic or valid, visiting the stamp duty office to confirm the authencity of receipts stamped, Visiting the courts to confirm whether there is an outstanding litigation or not and a host of other things that i cannot mention due to our search secrets. If you can make 3 trips from Ikeja to Ibeju Lekki to confirm ownership, fight stubborn and fraudulent omoniles or sellers, go to their offices, go to court, the land registry, go to the land to take coordinates, measure the land, tip all the officials there to give you the current report and present state of things with a 20k budget and expect to get a favourable and impartial search report minus payment of staff to do a good job, please i would readily pay you that 20k right now to help me do 3 searches at Badagry, Ikorodu Outskirt and Agbara.

There is a very big difference between going to the land bureau to do a search on a C of O or Consent from the comfort of your sitting room for N5000 and going out there in the field rain or sunshine to get to the bottom of an impending fraud and still have the grace of God not endorse a land that could fetch me hundreds of thousands of Naira if i choose to give a favourable search report. Like you rightly said Sir, i am a PRO at this and if your honest with me, with all i have written, you will realise that i am still subsidizing the N50K Land verification cost if i am to achieve all this talkless of doing another free search in-case the land is found to be defective.

Thanks again for your comment and hope to see more of your posts in the nearest future and if you want to know more about what we do and what the search entails, feel free to check out http://omonilelawyer.com/land-verification-service/how-does-it-work/. It spells out what we charge and why we charge and what we are charging for to get you a proper land to buy free from any sort of encumberance and we have a bloody good track record for doing our jobs impeccably.

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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by blank(f): 3:19am On Nov 14, 2013
lawyer:

If both of you have a cordial relationship, you could both apply to have the C of O made jointly in your name. It will be disasterous if you allow your neighbour's name be the sole name on the C of O because it could lead to so many complications in future in case you want to sell the land or your children want to inherit it or you want to use it for a loan. Your Architect is right and i would advise you to heed his words.

Someone once mentioned a deed of partitioning or something like that to take care of those fears. Can you throw more light on that?
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by Lucasbalo(m): 5:45am On Nov 14, 2013
lawyer:

The N50,000 Land Verification Retainer will cover a period of 1 month. If at the end of the first search, we find out that there are issues or encumbrances on that property, the Client is entitled to select another Property within that same month from the moment we are instructed to conduct another search at no extra cost . If by the end of the search period we haven’t secured you a property that meets your approval based on our Verification Report, you have the option to pay a further Retainer to extend the search for subsequent land verification checks. We feel your pain that is why we are not always happy when a search has gone wrong or we discover that the land has issues. We have a history of turning down so many lands and continuing the search for the Client till we are both satisfied. Money isn't the issue here but peace of mind and ability to build in comfort.

Learn more about our services on http://omonilelawyer.com/land-verification-service/our-fees/.Lawyer, I have two plots of land about 1 kilometer west of LaTropicana Resort. Its fenced. I bought it few years ago
. Just about to start work on it when I come to Nigeria in Dec. Will like to talk to u personally on the phone. Thanks for everything you have been doing.
Cheers
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by younglawya(m): 7:08am On Nov 14, 2013
Kudos to my colleague @ lawyer for sensisitising the public about the activities of this omonile people and their hazards.

In the past ( and currently) I've been briefed by nairalanders to do searches on property for them an I've seen first hand how terrible this omonile people are

Client A

I was on my way to court one day and I received an international call from one number. My first thought was if na scam una won scam me , una jam road. However, talking to the individual , he explained that he bought a large parcel of land through his family member ( his father). surveyed it and now wants to sell some. That is the genesis of the problem.

He explained that all the buyers his contact is taking to the land are backing out and his father has not been able to explain why hence this call and begged me to help him.

That weekend, myself and a trusted surveyor went to the property and I was shocked at what I saw. First of all, the initial surveyor who did the job did not install the beacons and points and my clients father( who is not well schooled )took it upon himself to complete the job manaully . More shocking was the fact that a big company in lagos had bought up the whole area and was currently excavating sand from what my client thought was his land. Finally, on charting the coordinates it was discovered that the land is commited.

The omonile people on seenin me attempted to bribe me to not inform my client and told me to even find more customers for them.WONDERFUL.


Imagine all the money my client has wasted. A simple search on the property would have saved him all the headache and lost funds. Searches cost from 50K ABOVE.I EVEN CHARGE LESS.let us all learn our lesson and be careful.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by greggng: 8:10am On Nov 14, 2013
Lawyer I must thank you for your timely education. Actually he is not my neigbor but he is the land owner. He just decided to sale a quater out of his one plot. My plan is to discuss a joint c of o with him. How much to you think it will cost us financially . You may write me and let me know how much it may cost you to handle this for us greggng@yahoo.com . In your reply kindly details all the document we re expected to present to enable you secure c of o for us. Finally how long it will take to get that? My intention is to make available the whole fund for this excercise cos the old man doesn't have fund . I don't wanna ve problems with the kids when their father dies
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by spyroxy1(m): 8:22am On Nov 14, 2013
But why do all these surveyors quote the coordinate of a free land, when they really know the land is a committed land?
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by lastpage: 8:23am On Nov 14, 2013
greggng: Lawyer I must thank you for your timely education. Actually he is not my neigbor but he is the land owner. He just decided to sale a quater out of his one plot. My plan is to discuss a joint c of o with him. How much to you think it will cost us financially . You may write me and let me know how much it may cost you to handle this for us greggng@yahoo.com . In your reply kindly details all the document we re expected to present to enable you secure c of o for us. Finally how long it will take to get that? My intention is to make available the whole fund for this excercise cos the old man doesn't have fund . I don't wanna ve problems with the kids when their father dies

grin grin grin grin grin Now that is very funny but really true!
Ipray the man does not die before you tidy up things and please, make him inform his children about this transaction.
If possible, use your phone's video to document the event when he explains to his children that he has sold the p;ace to you and they have no interest in it, even after his death o! wink wink wink

Lastpage!
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by Monfulule: 8:37am On Nov 14, 2013
Tmany: Chai just learnt a lot.
But 50k is not that much to verify a land worth 5 million its just 1 percent of 5 million.
5 million truly down the drain
its not 5m, its 8m, adding2other payments made.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by beeman80: 8:46am On Nov 14, 2013
lawyer:

My brother am confused too. He has been so depressed and texting me frantically to help him out. He told me he took a loan to buy the land and he wanted to put a commercial structure there. He said he has even gone ahead to pay the architect and paid money to building suppliers and builders to erect a fence and foundation before this devastating Land Information dropped on his laps. So we are looking at an extra N3Million here if we add the above costs for the fence. I wish i knew what to tell him and all this could have been avoided.

Are u sure all this could have been avoided?Well I guess it would have made more sense if he had paid 50k for the land investigation.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by Bizibi(m): 9:27am On Nov 14, 2013
Pls hw do I contact u
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by vicoloni(m): 10:04am On Nov 14, 2013
Thanks lawyer. What you do on nairaland helps to differentiate the phony agents from expert brokers. Let him that have ears hear what the Lawyer is saying.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by Originalsly: 10:41am On Nov 14, 2013
@Lawyer.....I find this thread to be very informative and interesting. The average person knows nothing about land verification and basically approach buying land the same way as buying a car. The information you presented is not easily available and this has made it so easy for the scammers to flourish. Now we are so much wiser and would be less vulnerable when it comes to buying lands. This yoir article is like a Public Service announcement! Keep up the good work! However....I do.agree with NSTC that as a professional....it was not necessary for us to know the back and forth between you and the guy....although no names it was too personal.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by olumolar55(m): 11:44am On Nov 14, 2013
Very educating and a very Good Lesson for us all
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by whitecat007: 12:31pm On Nov 14, 2013
People get what they pay for! When you want to pay next to nothing for most important thing to every family. These professionals have bills to pay and the 20k you paid them to swim the ocean is just not going to get far.

Lawyer, can you create packages for those who are not in the country? By posting the fees and exactly what to expect. Don't make this one size fits all cos it does not. Some of us woold like to see pictures of the neighborhood among others.
spyroxy1: But why do all these surveyors quote the coordinate of a free land, when they really know the land is a committed land?

Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by shafe85(m): 2:37pm On Nov 14, 2013
Na serious one chance ooooooo! U dey run for bicycle go jam trailer.
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by xakjustice(m): 8:34pm On Nov 14, 2013
great thread
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by Gadgetmobil(m): 10:15pm On Nov 14, 2013
@ lawyer don't think we in Nigeria are forgetful, a day would come when your name would be stamped in the hearts of many. I have been following you and have this to say. Well done Sire
That being said can we get your services or that of your likes at Ibadan and Osun.

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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by haibe(m): 9:12am On Nov 15, 2013
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by amanikondo: 9:28am On Nov 16, 2013
Thanks to My Dear Lawyer, We have bought 3 lands together and still counting. All the mowe, Ofada and Eba lands I bought in the past were money down the drain.

Do business with my ABLE BARRISTER and you will not regret it.

I Approve This Message.

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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by DUNKA(m): 11:57am On Nov 16, 2013
lawyer:

If both of you have a cordial relationship, you could both apply to have the C of O made jointly in your name. It will be disasterous if you allow your neighbour's name be the sole name on the C of O because it could lead to so many complications in future in case you want to sell the land or your children want to inherit it or you want to use it for a loan. Your Architect is right and i would advise you to heed his words.
colleague Lawyer would not a part surrender be more feasible in this case so tgst tge C of O for his portion excised be solely in his name?
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by kopell: 5:51am On Nov 18, 2013
@lawyer for almost 4 years now that you have being writing about scams like
These people are still paying those omonile
to marry new wife's and buy new range rover, na waoooo. So the brother can not pay 50k for your service but he can afford 5m for the land
I hope the guy they Naija sha no bi one of us in diaspora, because that loan he toke he will be paying big intrest on it for years to come.

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Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by chuks1000: 2:16pm On Nov 19, 2013
@Lawyer

Please I want to confirm one point
We are currently applying for Governor's Consent
and have gotten an assessment which we've paid
But the Governor's Consent is not yet ready.

And we've applied for a Letter of Clearance for Building Plan Approval

Can we use this Letter of Clearance to start the Building Plan Approval process
@ town planning before the Governor's Consent is ready?
Re: The Hazard Of Buying A Bad Land Without Doing A Proper Search. Finally See Proof by brabus(m): 2:29pm On Nov 19, 2013
olaoreawofele: Buyers Beware . MONAN Garden Estate Sangotedo is fraud.

LPC, the solicitor to Oyetubo Joko T'ade placed a caveat in the Guarding Newspaper of Monday 18th Novemeber. LPC disclaimed any transaction with Monan and warned the public from buying plots from Monan Garden Estate Sangotedo.

Beware, be guided.

Shoo!

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