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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Psylas(m): 12:24pm On Nov 20, 2013
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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by aryzgreat: 12:36pm On Nov 20, 2013
Una dey drink panadol for anambra matter. We voted APGA, if u don't like it go hug transformer!

Those airheads dat refer to anambrarians as illiterates, pls a state with over 70% literacy level is nt an illiterate state.

Thank u

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by gerald09(m): 12:37pm On Nov 20, 2013
Even with the INEC official accepting dat d election was flawed this ABGA old bigot are still insisting its was a free and fair election, and on top dat lie dey still claim d obvious igbo women aint igbo but from Osun State. ABGA is really a party for bigots the same crime which APC has committed, its funny that the only party dat has no tribalistic Ideology is d very one dat is championing corruption, PDP. I just which people realise dat what politicians say or do don't in anyway reflect on their people. Most politicians are in there late 50 and above so its understandable that dey shuld be bigots, tribalist and stereotypical. But when u start hearing youth use d same sentiment and hatred for something they know nufin about that when we have a sad world its time the youth change the way dey fink n stop all dis stereotyping n bigotry it f*ucking getting old.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by aryzgreat: 12:42pm On Nov 20, 2013
exxell:

[b] Nwanne, afukwana ihem furu oo!! As we are talking now, my mum a senior lecturer in Unizik, is protesting.. My brother, these people dont really know what is happening to them. My people have been so beclouded by lies and deceit. Do you know the problem of the common anambra man: ILLITERACY AND IGNORANCE. Anambra people are so hardworking and have a lot of money that they dont care what the government does to them. They are core business men. Go to Imo state and see the reverse. 85% of Imolites depend on government salary to survive because majority of them are cooperate workers and went to school. So, any imposition you try on them is fought tooth and nail. But Anambra is different. All they know is "o mpa, nwanne adigom ok, hero beer bu ebeano, nwanne alagom otu, nwanne idi ok, nwanne mpiawa gi isi... Rubbish... Absolute nonsense. Go to their facebook page and go to Imo facebook page. The kind of brazen illiteracy and undiluted stupidity oozing out from Anambra page will make you want to vomit. It takes a sensitized Anambra man to know that our state capital is the worst in the whole of Nigeria... It takes an honest Onitsha man to let you know that Onitsha and Aba are the worst cities in the East. A tribal bigot will come and say "But it was like that when Obi came"!! And so? He should leave it like that abi? As for me, we are still trying to advise Ngige not to go to the courts and accept the rigging (Even heavens can bear witness). In 2010, Peter Obi rigged too and he condoned. We dont really know his next plan. We have already advised him to leave the party, go to a another party and contest. We have our reasons. Come 2017, Anambrarians will know who the real willie Obiano is. I screamed from the rooftops, I shouted from the mountains... Telling people that this is another Goodluck Jonathan waiting to happen. But they refused to listen. They allowed the rigging. Thousands were disenfranchised. If it were in Imo, they would have been in the streets protesting now... Yea. I remember the case of Ohaji Egbema, Ngor Okpala and co. The same thing that happened in Imo is happening im Anambra now. These local governments were the strongholds of Rochas. But election was not conducted there. Even the Okigwe zone that they say Ohakim won landslide, so many disenfranchisements for thousands of APGA supporters there. These is the same thing playing out in Anambra now. Many people in Ngige strongholds came to vote and saw new registers!!! Even in his stronghold and his village, No election was done there. And we are here screaming Nigeria will be better?? If I hear!!!! [/b]

It is obvious from ur written jargons, u r not frm Anambra. 'Go to their favebook page'

Try harder to b an anambrarian next tym. Imo is even bringing mouth for anambra, I blame dat sell out Rochas

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by creativemusic: 12:42pm On Nov 20, 2013
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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Antivirus92(m): 12:45pm On Nov 20, 2013
We voted en masse for apga! Why can't these non anambrarians and pseudo-anambrarians deal with it. Even the one whose mother is a vc at unizik. A she-egboka

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Slizbeat(m): 12:48pm On Nov 20, 2013
pacido: I won't descend to ur indecent level of name calling...I can bet u dnt even know where ckc is located in onitsha. prove me wrong by telling me the street it is located and other landmarks around the school. what is the slogan of CKC old boys?. We need to vent ideas in this forum based solely on maturity,and exchange of sound thinking so as to learn more,its so unfortunate that many like you chose to turn it to a market place where u propagate warped ideas and falsehood and curse anyone that tries to enlighten you....the worst part is u dnt even know who u are cursing?

DID you see quoting any of them that insulted me?? NO

Just leave them to continue living in denial, I know it's illiteracy that's running in their system.

Let them be.

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nonybb: 12:50pm On Nov 20, 2013
pacido: I won't descend to ur indecent level of name calling...I can bet u dnt even know where ckc is located in onitsha. prove me wrong by telling me the street it is located and other landmarks around the school. what is the slogan of CKC old boys?. We need to vent ideas in this forum based solely on maturity,and exchange of sound thinking so as to learn more,its so unfortunate that many like you chose to turn it to a market place where u propagate warped ideas and falsehood and curse anyone that tries to enlighten you....the worst part is u dnt even know who u are cursing?
And who am i cursing? Clearly i can see that u are just a distraction to me and i wouldnt give credit to stvpidity. For u not to believe that i went to CKC is stvpid enough. U could have challenged me on the incompetency of Obi rather than engaged on frivolities. We all knw that CKC's moto is Bonitas, disciplina and scientia, while it's slogan is Primus Inter paras, and it is located at Oguta road close to menax junction. I left CKC a decades ago, precisely 10 years now. So u had been refuted and its time for u to bury your head in shame with Obi's STOOGE

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Iykeponti(m): 12:53pm On Nov 20, 2013
oluwashaddow: personally I was just trying to use election to see d preparedness of inec for d upcoming general elections n moreso am a nigerian n from wat is happening in my state now,I knw wat good governance means,so am only wishing dat u have d best
cool
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by khattab02: 12:54pm On Nov 20, 2013
Hahaha.. This news funny eh! Anyway am watching.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by chamboy(m): 12:54pm On Nov 20, 2013
[b][size=30pt]Please anambra peez if PETER OBI is a good governor and obiano is THE people's choice can anyone explain to me why they were buying peoples vote APGA[/size]/b]
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by pacido: 1:01pm On Nov 20, 2013
Antivirus92: We voted en masse for apga! Why can't these non anambrarians and pseudo-anambrarians deal with it. Even the one whose mother is a vc at unizik. A she-egboka
pls tell them
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nobody: 1:06pm On Nov 20, 2013
Nonybb: PACKET OF LIES! Willie Obiano i will sincerely say with the depth of my heart, will NOT CREDIBLY win the Guber race. He is a disguise of Gov Peter Obi. Fegge Onitsha is still a mess. The roads leading to main markets, the purported biggest market in africa some decades ago, are left to further degrade and decay. No public water supply in Onitsha, and perhaps Anambra state as a whole. Peter Obi undisputedly is a christian Bigot. He suffers Nepotism and fanatism. He wants to enslave Anambra in God-fatherism mentality, a clark we had managed to escape in the state during the time past. He favours catholic more than Anglican and choosed willie because he is a catholic. Peter can not boost of modern infrastructural development as obtained in some neigbhbouring state. Wat he knws is how to dole our cash to traditional institute to buy them. I have lived in Anambra state since i was born. I went to the prestigious Christ the king College Onitsha so i am not talking as an outsider. I dont belong to any political party and my voice are clearly based as a concerned citizen. We cant afford to waste another 4 years through Obi's mechanical and political controlled puppettes. We need a change but i clearly dont knw how it would come. Im not here to support Ngige either. I am here because i think Willie is not progressive enough. Lets us shun sentiments and elected a new leader that wouldnt tie us to the debts, whims and coprice of Peter Obi. Being an international banker doesnt make u a credible leader. Peter is putting one of his own to further subject us to God fatherism. Let us say no to this archaic and barbaric system of leadership and imposition. Enough is enough. Anambra state must develop. Lets evolve like others and stop living in a world of self denial and reckless disenchantment. Time4CHANGE MY PEOPLE. I dont knw who u might want to VOTE but pls we need a change

I am from Anambra but dont live in Anambra so I cant really comment much. I have however met Obi personally and have no reason to doubt his integrity. The day I met in Wilsden Green Tube Station (He was on his way to Insitute of Directors Meeting in London), he said something that captured my attention. These are the things he told me personally:

1. He was on his way from a meeting where he agreed to invest $10m in MTN and something happened in Ontisha (basically, he witnessed Bakassi beheading people) and decided he will not invest in again but will rather go into politics. Also, that he got to a stage in life (mid-life crises) where he was asking himself what next.
2. He told me that if money was attraction to politics, he will not have been interested because he was making more money as a business man than any of the state governors. He said that personally, he has four houses in London and many in Nigeria (Please note: he bought these houses before he got into politics) and that he will leave politics with less wealth than he had before he went in; that there is nothing that will make him be a poorman (even if the world economy collspses).
3. He promised to send me a booklet (His contract with people of Anambra State) with which he will be judged at the end of his governorship. I have the booklet with me today.
4. He told me he spent 500million prosecuting his case with Ngige and that at some point it was just him and his Lawyer going to court because all other political hanger-ons have given up and disappeared to join other political parties.

With all these, i can conclude he is a decent man, but being decent is not enough in politics and public service. There must be a clear vision and delivery plan. Also, i have not heard any credible allegation where his name is mentioned.
Having said all these, I am not the best person to comment on his activities as the governor because I dont live in Anambra, but I plan to meet with him before H. 2014 to discuss his achievement vis-a-vis his booklet.

My advise for you is to cast your vote according to your conscience and get involved in political process in your state because i can see you are passionate about it. This will position you for the future, if you want to bring about a change.

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Funpeter: 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2013
pacido: am sure u are not from anambra and there is no "christ the college"in onitsha. your write up is so filled with hatred dat u didn't know when u used the APC catch phrase"progressive"while trying hard to hide ur APC bias. What basis did u use in arriving @ d fact that willie is nt progressive enuf?Write ups like these are the exact reason why people visit u APC charlatans with rejection @ the polls bc u guys specialise in standing logic on its head. Watch out for what will happen in ekiti and osun states governorship elections
lolz with or without rigging rauf we win osun that, i cnt say of ekiti own cos the people there no stable and cn u name one candidate that cn compete with osun governor one of the performing governor his first term is far better than OBI eight yrs in power.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by emmabest2000(m): 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2013
gurnam: Give it to APGA's Ibo politicians....they understand what their people need and want.

Hatred and fear...and they dished it out in very large dose for them.
Gbam grin

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by chamboy(m): 1:13pm On Nov 20, 2013
EBK2:

I am from Anambra but dont live in Anambra so I cant really comment much. I have however met Obi personally and have no reason to doubt his integrity. The day I met in Wilsden Green Tube Station (He was on his way to Insitute of Directors Meeting in London), he said something that captured my attention. These are the things he told me personally:

1. He was on his way from a meeting where he agreed to invest $10m in MTN and something happened in Ontisha (basically, he witnessed Bakassi beheading people) and decided he will not invest in again but will rather go into politics. Also, that he got to a stage in life (mid-life crises) where he was asking himself what next.
2. He told me that if money was attraction to politics, he will not have been interested because he was making more money as a business man than any of the state governors. He said that personally, he has four houses in London and many in Nigeria (Please note: he bought these houses before he got into politics) and that he will leave politics with less wealth than he had before he went in; that there is nothing that will make him be a poorman (even if the world economy collspses).
3. He promised to send me a booklet (His contract with people of Anambra State) with which he will be judged at the end of his governorship. I have the booklet with me today.
4. He told me he spent 500million prosecuting his case with Ngige and that at some point it was just him and his Lawyer going to court because all other political hanger-ons have given up and disappeared to join other political parties.

With all these, i can conclude he is a decent man, but being decent is not enough in politics and public service. There must be a clear vision and delivery plan. Also, i have not heard any credible allegation where his name is mentioned.
Having said all these, I am not the best person to comment on his activities as the governor because I dont live in Anambra, but I plan to meet with him before H. 2014 to discuss his achievement vis-a-vis his booklet.

My advise for you is to cast your vote according to your conscience and get involved in political process in your state because i can see you are passionate about it. This will position you for the future, if you want to bring about a change.
lies nigerian politics have more income than whateva he left. he should stop deceiving us
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by meforyou1(m): 1:22pm On Nov 20, 2013
chamboy: [b][size=40pt]Please anambra peez if PETER OBI is a good governor and obiano is THE people's choice can anyone explain to me why they were buying peoples vote APGA[/size]/b]
is buying votes now an electoral malpractice in nigeria? say the truth and shame the devil
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by olatiler(m): 1:26pm On Nov 20, 2013
A big shame on this ppl called agpa and their supporters anyway I don't wanna say much about them but it come to my conclussion that ppl from this area are the backbone of Nigeria failure, this are ppl that called Thief business so u can guest whom they are and it purely clear to me why some intelligent ppl are against them to be president of this great country

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by meforyou1(m): 1:37pm On Nov 20, 2013
APC cacoons, we need evidence, evidence, evidence! just asking for a gubernatorial election to be cancelled without evidence is bunkum. show us videos or pictures of ballot box snatching, house burning, killing and destruction, arson, illegal thumb-printing etc as u have them when the elections are held in osun, ekiti, oyo and ogun state.
waiting for the day ngige will go to court and the judge will shout at him to get the hell out of the court and go and live his miserable life in the senate till 2015.
saying people are disenfranchised. in which nigerian election are people not disenfranchised?
from all accounts in the media, anambra election was free, fair and devioid of violence. who has contrary opinion should show me the evidence.
as for el rufai that was locked up in his hotel room, how many elections have he monitored in the north east where he came from?
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by LeStylo: 1:44pm On Nov 20, 2013
abhosts: This allegation is a fallacy. APC has Hundreds of thousand of supporters right there in the state and do not need to go as far as Osun to "import" protesters.

The crowd at Ngige rallies were from Osun state too i presume undecided

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by krixik(m): 1:58pm On Nov 20, 2013
Two useless elephants are fighting but thank God i am not the grass that will suffer. Nonsense.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by holyeye1989(m): 2:02pm On Nov 20, 2013
THIS IDIOT SHOULD GO AND HAWK TRANSFORMER.IF THEY IMPORT WOMEN,THEN YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT BY SAYING SUCH . INFACT THIS IDIOT DOES NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY. APC WE KNOW PETER OBI CAN NEVER RULE ANAMBRA FOR THE THIRD TIME.HE HAS DONE GOOD WORKS YES I APPRECIATE BUT I THINK THAT WHEN YOU ARE STILL BEGGING YOUR BOSS TO SERVE HIM YOU MUST HAVE SOME PERSONAL INTEREST. WE NEED YOU NO MORE. ONWA WE KNOW.

Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nonybb: 2:07pm On Nov 20, 2013
EBK2:

I am from Anambra but dont live in Anambra so I cant really comment much. I have however met Obi personally and have no reason to doubt his integrity. The day I met in Wilsden Green Tube Station (He was on his way to Insitute of Directors Meeting in London), he said something that captured my attention. These are the things he told me personally:

1. He was on his way from a meeting where he agreed to invest $10m in MTN and something happened in Ontisha (basically, he witnessed Bakassi beheading people) and decided he will not invest in again but will rather go into politics. Also, that he got to a stage in life (mid-life crises) where he was asking himself what next.
2. He told me that if money was attraction to politics, he will not have been interested because he was making more money as a business man than any of the state governors. He said that personally, he has four houses in London and many in Nigeria (Please note: he bought these houses before he got into politics) and that he will leave politics with less wealth than he had before he went in; that there is nothing that will make him be a poorman (even if the world economy collspses).
3. He promised to send me a booklet (His contract with people of Anambra State) with which he will be judged at the end of his governorship. I have the booklet with me today.
4. He told me he spent 500million prosecuting his case with Ngige and that at some point it was just him and his Lawyer going to court because all other political hanger-ons have given up and disappeared to join other political parties.

With all these, i can conclude he is a decent man, but being decent is not enough in politics and public service. There must be a clear vision and delivery plan. Also, i have not heard any credible allegation where his name is mentioned.
Having said all these, I am not the best person to comment on his activities as the governor because I dont live in Anambra, but I plan to meet with him before H. 2014 to discuss his achievement vis-a-vis his booklet.

My advise for you is to cast your vote according to your conscience and get involved in political process in your state because i can see you are passionate about it. This will position you for the future, if you want to bring about a change.
Thank You my brother EBK2. Like u said i am very much passionate about my state, Anambra state. I love politics but the problem is that Nigerian system is polluted, messed up and damaged. We dont have a right institution of governance. People are recklessly corrupt, ignorant and silly. The atmosphere is not condusive for the likes of me. I dont sincerely presume i would survive the decay in the system. The leaderships are not only the problem but the followerships. Too many poverty in the land, too many compromise in government and too many rapacious looting techniques, buried in pretense, are better said than experienced. If Ngige had been in ACN the sentiments of individuals could had been curtailed. Nobody failed to see it in the light that Obi had repeatedly failed to achieve for the past 8 good years. Come to Onitsha and u will weep about our roads, sanitation etc. And i keep asking this questions, should we live like this? So we cant be rescued? Wat happened to our conscience? He personally told u that he spent N500 million to prosecute election case and u werent wise enough(with respect) to think that he wouldnt recoup his loses? Is Obi that too sanctimonous and incorruptible? He made money as a business man than the rest of governors and politicians?? This is absolute nonsense. I dont think u were a kid to be deceived this way. Politicians we all knw are the richest in this country. Ifeanyi patrick Ubah of Capital Oil worth more than $2 billion in assets alone and if being outside of politics could make u richer he couldnt have join the train. Obi is just an unexposed rapacious looter. Remember a man can be decent in appearance but not in hearts and mind. He promise to send a booklet? Booklet of wat? Do u want to be submerged in media hype rather than tangible structures that u can behold. Wat is contained in those booklets? Tell me? Why shouldnt Anambrarian not see it rather than u living in a foreign country. There is nothing to show u. Let us all living here see the phyiscal projects first. Wise UP

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Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nobody: 2:09pm On Nov 20, 2013
Slizbeat:


The part of infrastructure is true that he doesn't build much but instead invest them in the job sector so the populace can be independent through the salary they earn.

lmaooo ure clearly on drugs or just poorly educated. How is the rubbish u wrote above even possible? Jobs without infrastructure. Roflmao u guys are so crazy and dense ur clannishness has driven u insane.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nobody: 2:16pm On Nov 20, 2013
chamboy:
lies nigerian politics have more income than whateva he left. he should stop deceiving us
I dont share that view but then you are entitled to cast your opinion about him. There are few in Nigeria that are not in politics to make money (especially those that have made money before joining politics) and I have not heard any credible corruption allegation against Peter Obi, but that is not to suggest he is a good governor. Only those in Anambra can judge that.

Whilst I can say positive things about his person, i am not in a position to comment much about his policies as a governor. Nonethless, what I am hearing from is that he has done well in many areas including education and getting Anambra's fiscal house in order. I also hear he has not done well in infrastructure, which to all intent and purposes are counting against him and Willie.On the other hand, I hear that Ngige is fundamentally flawed as a person and have done well in the area of infrastructure albeit at huge fiscal deficit to Anambra purse.

In the end, Anambra people will balance their priorities and elect whoever that will meets their aspiration through a free and fair election whose responsibility lies on INEC.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Pukkah: 2:16pm On Nov 20, 2013
me_for_you: is buying votes now an electoral malpractice in nigeria? say the truth and shame the devil

This is a new one. shocked You are amazing.

Le Stylo:

The crowd at Ngige rallies were from Osun state too i presume undecided

Good question.
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by brownsug(f): 2:20pm On Nov 20, 2013
Kini yoruba gba lowo awon pple yii, ilara ati inunibini leleyio, month de jeri awon omo yoruba to wa ni bi, won kin se omo ale, won ma kofunwon tan ni
Re: Anambra Election Protesters Are Not Igbos – Obi’s Aide by Nobody: 2:27pm On Nov 20, 2013
Nonybb: Thank You my brother EBK2. Like u said i am very much passionate about my state, Anambra state. I love politics but the problem is that Nigerian system is polluted, messed up and damaged. We dont have a right institution of governance. People are recklessly corrupt, ignorant and silly. The atmosphere is not condusive for the likes of me. I dont sincerely presume i would survive the decay in the system. The leaderships are not only the problem but the followerships. Too many poverty in the land, too many compromise in government and too many rapacious looting techniques, buried in pretense, are better said than experienced. If Ngige had been in ACN the sentiments of individuals could had been curtailed. Nobody failed to see it in the light that Obi had repeatedly failed to achieve for the past 8 good years. Come to Onitsha and u will weep about our roads, sanitation etc. And i keep asking this questions, should we live like this? So we cant be rescued? Wat happened to our conscience? He personally told u that he spent N500 million to prosecute election case and u werent wise enough(with respect) to think that he wouldnt recoup his loses? Is Obi that too sanctimonous and incorruptible? He made money as a business man than the rest of governors and politicians?? This is absolute nonsense. I dont think u were a kid to be deceived this way. Politicians we all knw are the richest in this country. Ifeanyi patrick Ubah of Capital Oil worth more than $2 billion in assets alone and if being outside of politics could make u richer he couldnt have join the train. Obi is just an unexposed rapacious looter. Remember a man can be decent in appearance but not in hearts and mind. He promise to send a booklet? Booklet of wat? Do u want to be submerged in media hype rather than tangible structures that u can behold. Wat is contained in those booklets? Tell me? Why shouldnt Anambrarian not see it rather than u living in a foreign country. There is nothing to show u. Let us all living here see the phyiscal projects first. Wise UP

You cant posiibly compare Obi and Ifeany Uba. Ifeanyi is a fraudlent business man with a lot of questions he will answer now that the election will soon be over.
Also, i dont share your view that Obi is a looter. If you can give me 3 specific allegations against him, i will make enquiries and get back to you with my finding.
Also, I disagree with your assertion about making money outside politics than inside politics. The real wealth that lasts is not made in Politics and i can say a lot on this.

Finally, the rot in the political system is an opportunity for decent people like you. Get involved in political process from where you are and fight with a long-term view using you positive polical ideals. If you dont, no one will do it and your children and grand children will moan as you are doing today. Evil will alway thrive when good people stay away or stay on the sideline and moan. In the midst of the rot, you can be a change agent if you really want. You just need to go for it.

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