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Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 6:47pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
As Expected, most of the G7 governors have joined the APC.....although the leanings of Niger Gov Babangida Aliyu, Kwara Gov Ahmed and Jigawa Gov Lamido remain suspect, in terms of numbers it fails to affect GEJ's chances in 2015 as he already lost in 5 of the 7 states in 2011, the only states he won among the lot in 2011 were rivers and kwara, and without Amaechi's support in 2015,he would sweep rivers votes again.....the APC can never win rivers even though they possess the gov just the same way Jonathan can't win Katsina even tho the gov is PDP, Kwara would be risky but it remains to be seen if Saraki and his stooge would leave the comfort of the PDP where the machinery is firmly in his hands for the APC,interestingly the kwara Gov walked out of the merger meeting with the niger gov, the PDP would most likely retain the senate with their 52 senators + 4 senators from APGa and LP allies =56 senators, with the 3 Niger Senators not decamping it could extend to 59 leaving APC with 50, the House of Reps would be hung between both parties almost equally and the house is likely to be enmeshed in a leadership tussle, for the PDP it is an opportunity to stabilise and restrategise for 2015, for GEJ with a secure SE,SS and MB base along with his SW allies like Mimiko,Omisore,Ladoja,Akala,Jimi Agbaje etc who possess some electoral clout and his core north allies like Shema,Yuguda,the heavily popular Mohammed Abacha, Al-Mustapha, the die is cast......the battle for the soul of nigeria has begun, it remains to be seen how Aregesola/Oyinlola, Kwankasso/Shekaurau, Wammakko/Bafarawa , Saraki/Lai_Muhammed will work together in APC......I remain confident that GEJ will be re-elected in 2015 however much closer than 59%-31% margin he secured in 2011 11 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 6:52pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Also the APC remains vulnerable in states like Nasarawa where the PDP dominated assembly is threatening Al-Makura with impeachment, also with Eggons the largest tribe in the State likely to rally behind their son Labaran Maku's candidature, the state could likely return to the PDP Also in Oyo State, the alliance Of Rashidi ladoja and Alao akala could defeat incumbent Ajimobi. Also amaechi could be toppled by the Supreme Court next year...its not all rosy for the APC 2 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 6:57pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Jimi Agbaje has never and will never be a PDP loyalist. During the last election when asked why he did not contest, he said "It is pointless contesting against Fashola". The dude is still an APC man to the bone. Do you people honestly believe GEJ will get that much votes from the southwest? With so much neglect? Y'all don't know ish about politics ooo. The southwest is such a way now that it is comfortably in APC's hands to do and undo. And anyone who underates Saraki is trying to ski up the face of a mountain The only way GEJ has a shot is if by some miracle, he starts performing. 5 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 6:59pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys: Also the APC remains vulnerable in states like Nasarawa where the PDP dominated assembly is threatening Al-Makura with impeachment, also with Eggons the largest tribe in the State likely to rally behind their son Labaran Maku's candidature, the state could likely return to the PDPSo an alliance of Ladoja and That breaching grown man is what the PDP hopes for in Oyo? Is it not clear to you people? Until you present credible leaders, you will fail 5 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Nobody: 7:03pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
APC e-warriors are notorious for celebrating small and, most times, inconsequential "victories". However, just we saw in the Anambra and other previous elections, TEAM FRESH AIR will always laugh last and celebrate the big victories 8 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Jeel: 7:06pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
UP GEJ!!! |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:10pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Jeel: UP GEJ!!!.I hope GEJ feels "up" if the senators damp too, it is finished |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:12pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:This is politics, not about who is credible or not, akala with his bleaching thievery still almost defeated ajimobi in 2011 losing just 1LGA and winning his own senatorial district,ladoja remains the single most popular politician in Oyo and did quite well in 2011, an alliance with akala would defeat the APC in oyo, ajimobi himself is aware oof that which was why he reconstituted his cabinet with core politicians, in Kano, the only person more popular than muhammed abacha is Buhari, in nigerian politics, what matters is not who has credibility but who can deliver votes, if not why is the APC gleefuly receiving Oyinlola,Timipre Sylva, Saraki,Nyako and other people who they called thieves as progressives....and btw,Jimi Agbaje will be the PDP's candidate for lagos gov in 2015,this is insider info and I'm sure of it....he's been in discussions with GEJ and mimiko will deliver ondo to GEJ, and you think buhari will trounce GEJ in the SW....hahaha......my company did consultancy work for GEJ's campaign in 2011 and I tell you, the SW will be split evenly, you'll be surprised at what an effective ethno-religious campaign can do 2 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:14pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44: .I hope GEJ feels "up" if the senators damp too, it is finishedI've just explained the senate situation to U, the senate is still his, the house of reps is where the situation is dire....you'll see so over the next few days |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:22pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:Dude, Jimi Agbaje is not a PDP person. Don't you get it? The guy does not fight battles he cannot win. He has looked around and seen the work done so he chose to walk away. Even the LP where he once was can't talk of having him and do you really think Agbaje can defeat an APC candidate? In the 2011 elections, the APC set a record of votes from a single state which no party has ever gotten before +1.5m votes. And with the general hatred towards the PDP in Lagos, no sensible candidate will even think of it not to mention the apathy they have towards GEJ 3 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:25pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
appears set for another round of crisis as the party’s leader, Chief Olabode George, is said to have sold the idea of fielding the governorship candidate of Democratic Peoples Alliance (DPA) in the 2007 election, Mr. Jimi Agbaje, as the party’s standard bearer for the 2015 governorship election to President Goodluck Jonathan. As a result this, George and some other PDP leaders are said to have firmed up plans with Agbaje to join the PDP as a first step to flying its flag in the election. Although the news of Agbaje’s likely defection to the PDP had gone on for a while with all concerned keeping sealed lips, indications however emerged at the weekend that the deal had been signed and sealed but waiting to be delivered. THISDAY learnt at the weekend that the move recently got a boost when the new chairman of the Federal Road Maintenance Agency (FERMA), Mr. Ezekiel Olajida Adeniji, fixed a meeting between President Goodluck Jonathan and Agbaje with the understanding of George. The need to have Agbaje join the PDP was said to be the thrust of the meeting with the President which was agreed on. But Agbaje who was wary of the ambition of the party’s candidate in the 2007 election, Senator Musiliu Obanikoro, was said to have insisted that the only reason he could join the PDP was if he was assured of the party’s ticket for the election in 2015. He was said to have kept asking the party leaders how they would handle Obanikoro’s case since he is as passionate about the governorship ambition such that would not outplay him in the equation. But while the President was said to have received Agbaje warmly and encouraged him to be part of the ruling party, he was however not categorical in his response, bearing in mind the weight of his position, but promised a fair play in the choice of candidates in order not to aggravate the tense situation in the party. Based on the partial success of the meeting and the encouraging assurances of the party leaders, Agbaje was said to have consented to the overtures to join the PDP and at a date the stakeholders are yet to agree on. Besides, George was said to have already suggested as a possible running mate to Agbaje, a former aide to former president Olusegun Obasanjo, Mr. Bode Oyedele, giving an indication that the idea had been properly thought out and concluded even before the process for selection commences. Sources told THISDAY that the idea behind the Agbaje candidacy was as a result of the clamour by some stakeholders in the polity to field a Christian candidate for once, pre-empting that it might be the joker that the ruling party, Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) might want to use to sustain its winning streak in the state. Interestingly, both George and his estranged friend, former Minister of Works, Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe, are said to have been working independently on both the Christian agenda and the Agbaje candidacy even though they are both not in good terms. Another person said to be privy to the Agbaje deal and also planning to return to PDP to work together with the team is the former Commissioner for Sports in the state, Mr. Ademola Adeniji-Adele. Sources said plans have also been concluded for Adeniji-Adele to return to PDP and be part of the team to face the opposition in next election, counting on the fact that having worked with the ACN for about four years as a commissioner, he would understand some of their antics and work as an insider from the outside. Unfortunately, supporters of Nigeria’s former High Commissioner to Ghana, Senator Musiliu Obanikoro, who had long suspected the moves, have resolved to give the leadership a run for its money, citing absolute confidence in the ability of Obanikoro to contain the excesses of the opposition. They cited amongst other reasons, the fact that Obanikoro tamed the ruling ACN during the local government election in the state where his son, Babajide, was allegedly robbed of victory as chairman of Ikoyi/Obalende Local Council Development Area of the state. Such success in a Lagos political environment, they contended, was no mean feat by an individual in the PDP when many others could not even win their wards in all of the elections. According to them, if the leaders’ choice candidate is the man who came a distant third in an election that Obanikoro came second, then, they are deliberately settling for less and do not have the interest of the party at heart. Besides, those who are sympathetic to the plight of the PDP are worried about the emerging developments. They recalled the drama that led to the emergence of Obanikoro as PDP candidate in the 2007 election, saying the party appears not to have learnt any lesson. “If at that time when the party leaders were still cracking with a president that bullied his way through everything, they could not defeat Obanikoro at the primary election, then, they would have it even tougher now that the party is sharply divided and parades greater number of moles,” the source said www.thisdaylive.com/articles/crisis-in-lagos-pdp-as-george-presents-agbaje-to-jonathan/140607/ |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:29pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
So you think Agbaje can take power away from APC in Lagos? You seriously know next to nothing when it comes to Lagos politics. The only person who could match the APC was Funsho Williams. The name PDP is dead and buried in Lagos 3 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:29pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:I have it on good authority Jimi Agbaje has met GEJ thrice in lagos in the last year at the state house marina.......also note that even despite the general apathy towards the PDP in lagos,GEJ still secured nearly 70% of cast votes in 2011, note also that there is a large immigrant population from the SE and SS that still support GEJ and remain heavily suspicious of Buhari and the APC, GEJ won't get less than 45% of cast votes in lagos in 2015, 5 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by kokoA(m): 7:32pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys: Also the APC remains vulnerable in states like Nasarawa where the PDP dominated assembly is threatening Al-Makura with impeachment, also with Eggons the largest tribe in the State likely to rally behind their son Labaran Maku's candidature, the state could likely return to the PDPI guess you don't know Sen. Abdulahi Adamu is part of the nPDP that just merged with APC. With abdulahi adamu and Tanko Almakura in one party, PDP is dead and buried in Nasarawa. Who is Labaran Maku?! Lol.. You should bother yourself with states PDP will lose in 2015.. Kaduna, katsina, Bauchi, gombe is definitely slipping away from them on or before 2015 elections. |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by donphilopus: 7:33pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
If you think it won't affect GEJ, then you're getting it wrong. Even if Sambo is from Kaduna state, do you think GEJ would just win APC there without much work?? The last Governorship Election in Kaduna state was very though, the margin was not big at all. So just count Kaduna among the states GEJ would lose come 2015. |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:34pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44: So you think Agbaje can take power away from APC in Lagos? You seriously know next to nothing when it comes to Lagos politics.I don't claim he would defeat the aPC candidate, it purely depends on the candidate the APC brings, even if he loses , he would be able to transfer sufficient goodwill to prop up GEJ....nice to see you couldn't counter the points I made about the other states a la Oyo,Nasarawa and you've gone from doubting a jimi agbaje candidature to saying he can't defeat GEJ......politics is not stagnant..tIs purely a game of interests,cash and numbers,GEJ still holds the ace,that is something any informed analyst would tell u, 2015 will be a shocker for the APC... 1 Like |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:36pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys: 45%? Did you forget that the reason GEJ even got that much vote in the southwest was because the ACN pulled out of the presidential election at the last minute? Remember the only state GEJ lost was Osun. If GEJ pulls 10% of Lagos votes, he should be declared president? Lagosians don't vote based on sentiments. You need to have done work for them to see and can you name one project GEJ has done in Lagos since he was president? Just one. What will he campaign about this time? The "God wants him to be there" effect is no more. People don't wanna hear about him he can win though if he drastically changes and starts working as the president and not a tribal leader 3 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:39pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
kokoA: I guess you don't know Sen. Abdulahi Adamu is part of the nPDP that just merged with APC. With abdulahi adamu and Tanko Almakura in one party, PDP is dead and buried in Nasarawa. Who is Labaran Maku?! Lol.. You should bother yourself with states PDP will lose in 2015.. Kaduna, katsina, Bauchi, gombe is definitely slipping away from them on or before 2015 elections.Solomon Ewuga is in a struggle with Tanko Al-Makura for the soul of APC in that state, Abdulahhi adamu won't change much, 19 of the 24 members of the house of assembly remain with PDP under the palms of akwe doma and labaran maku, GEJ won that state with 60% in 2011 and he will win again, I agree that PDP will lose Kaduna but the sizeable southern kaduna votes should be able to secure GEJ the 25% threshold in that state, in gombe, Dankwabbo will fight a tough battle with Goje and the aPC, will be 50-50, in katsina , shema is so popular that even when CPC swept all other positions they couldn't touch Shema.GEJ will lose here tho as always, in Bauchi, Bala Muhammed and Yuguda will lead PDp to retain d governorship here but as always GEJ will lose here but secure the required 25% |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:43pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:sufficient goodwill? How come GEJ did not divert enough goodwill to the PDP candidate in Lagos in 2011 even with 70% of votes? Are we still on OYO state? How can Ladoja and Alao Akala defeat the APC when Akala is politically dead? When was the last time you heard his name? The dude is dead and buried. He only had fame due to his incumbency and his late godfather. As for Ladoja, he is too far behind |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:43pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:All nigerians vote on sentiments and lagosians would vote for GEJ if a candidate such as Buhari with a subsisting image problem is chosen, the only chance of GEJ loses is if a fashola or ribadu candidature crops up which is very unlikely, the lagos ibadan expressway and the power reforms when well marketed in a campaign coupled with buhari's extremist baggage.... 1 Like |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:48pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:Akala politically dead? Are u aware the only PDP senator in the SW represents the ogbomoso senatorial district,hosea agboola, akala controls that district and the PDP has all the elective seats, coupled with Ladoja whose accord party has 8 assembly seats *nd 3 house of reps from d oke ogun/iseyin/eruwa area, an alliance of akala and ladoja will defeat ajimobi's weak ibadan base , NB ajimobi is very unpopular among the ibadan poor for his demolishing of markets and stuff like that....and also remember, Oyo does not give any governor a 2nd term Oyo state still remains the strongest and most sympathetic PDP state in the SW With Akala and ladoja's support,GEj should secure Oyo state |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:48pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:Did you just mention the Lagos-Ibadan expressway? Which one? The one that connects Lagos to Ibadan or is there another one? Dude you really need to use that road more often even in the dry season it is hell. And what crazy power reforms are you talking of? Dude, GEJ neglected the state all through his tenure and you think he will come back to ask for their votes without them hissing? Name just one project the GEJ administration did in Lagos 1 Like |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:52pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:No governor has won OYO again because they are mostly colossal failures. Do you really think any person from OYO will sit down and listen to Akala speak? Ajimobi demolished roads and compensated the owners and built roads in place of the houses. I have been to OYO state a couple of times this year dude and I know how much they support their governor |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:53pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:When last did you pass the road sef...I'll open a thread shortly with pictures of ongoing constructioon work on that road....and are you not in nigeria, aren't u aware of the handing over of defunct PHCN to private investors after the completion of the most complex privitisation process this country ever undertook. Or the fact that power generation is at highest levels with 3 new plants having come on stream recently, geregu,omotosho and aba |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 7:58pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:You people miss the whole point of delivering projects. Which Lagos Ibadan expressway is undergoing construction? The one I passed last week or is there a new one? Look if you will talk of projects, talk one we don't pass at all so your false info can be believed. And power reforms, how do you explain to the woman who sells frozen foods and has not had power for the past one week that the plants are working fine? What's her business? You removed subsidy from petrol which drove the price of transportation up, drove the price of petrol for Fueling generators up and their is no electricity and you wanna explain power reforms? Is this a joke? 6 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 7:59pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:I was born and bred in ibadan even tho I don't stay there anymore, I regularly visit and while I admit ajimobi has done a good job, he remains heavily unpopular among the poor due to his heavy taxation and demolishing of markets, visit sango,bodija markets and interact with the market women, people want ladoja back....they view ajimobi's govt as purely elitist, the real people who vote are the touts in bere and the market women and not those middle class people in bodija gra or oluyole or akobo who fancy ajimobi, he realises this and that was why he rushed to reconstitute his cabinet with arisekola's son and d olubadan's son.....politics is my life and I follow it intensely 2 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by kokoA(m): 8:00pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Lord Varys:Solomon Ewuga and Almakura are definitely going to resolve their issues. Ever wondered why Nasarawa state government has calmed down on Ombatse clamp down? Leaving it in the hands of FG who has already "forgiven" them according to SS boss.. Lol. Aliyu Akwe Doma is useless in the scheme of things in Nasarwa. The heavyweights here are Tanko, Ewuga and Abdulahi and they are all in APC now. PDP is getting less than 25% here I can assure you. Kaduna no doubt is going to APC, you should know that the population of southern KD that will vote PDP in 2015 will reduce drastically because Northern christians have not been happy with this administration's handling of church bombings in the north. Gombe is as good as gone, Dankwanbo either join APC or watch his seat taking away from him. You can't compare a technocrat with a career politician in the person of Danjuma Goje. Katsina is going to the APC 100%. The only reason why CPC lost the governorship in 2011 was because Buhari attempted to force Masari on the people so the people protested by voting in Shema. 2015 will be a different ball game. In Bauchi, the people have scores to settle with Yuguda. He deceived them by joining ANPP, got Buhari to endorse him and as soon as he won the election he went back to PDP.. They have not forgotten. Bala mohammed is an Abuja politician, he commands little respect in Bauchi. 3 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 8:04pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44:Like I said earlier, I frequently drive on the road and I took pictures of RCC construction work on the road albeit slow...I would open a thread on that later...and the power situation is steadily improving. Btw, Sule lamido has joined babangida aliyu in staying in the PDP,he spoke shortly on AIT so the national assembly remains firmly in GEJ's hands |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by LordVarys: 8:13pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
kokoA: Solomon Ewuga and Almakura are definitely going to resolve their issues. Ever wondered why Nasarawa state government has calmed down on Ombatse clamp down? Leaving it in the hands of FG who has already "forgiven" them according to SS boss.. Lol. Aliyu Akwe Doma is useless in the scheme of things in Nasarwa. The heavyweights here are Tanko, Ewuga and Abdulahi and they are all in APC now. PDP is getting less than 25% here I can assure you. Kaduna no doubt is going to APC, you should know that the population of southern KD that will vote PDP in 2015 will reduce drastically because Northern christians have not been happy with this administration's handling of church bombings in the north. Gombe is as good as gone, Dankwanbo either join APC or watch his seat taking away from him. You can't compare a technocrat with a career politician in the person of Danjuma Goje. Katsina is going to the APC 100%. The only reason why CPC lost the governorship in 2011 was because Buhari attempted to force Masari on the people so the people protested by voting in Shema. 2015 will be a different ball game. In Bauchi, the people have scores to settle with Yuguda. He deceived them by joining ANPP, got Buhari to endorse him and as soon as he won the election he went back to PDP.. They have not forgotten. Bala mohammed is an Abuja politician, he commands little respect in Bauchi.Southern Kaduna will deliver for GEJ 100% as always....GEj will name Isaiah Balat as minister in the reconstituted cabinet to appease the dissenting voices, Yuguda trounced the CPC candidate in 2011 who even had buhari's support, buhari's support hardly trickles to his parties candidates and only only the politically naïve will call Bala muhammed an abuja politician.....bala remains very strong on ground and I'm confident they'll deliver the required 25% in 2015.....and the immense powers of patronage dankwabo possesses will defeat Goje anytime, the other 2 senators remain firmly in support of dankwambo plus the state house of assembly and house of reps members, Goje is an astute politician no doubt but he has lost his footing in that state, even his erstwhile deputy joshua lidani has joined dankwabbo's group Dankwabbo will deliver at least 30% for GEJ in 2015 and GEj will win as always in Taraba 2 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Olugbenger(m): 8:14pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Mynd_44, i never knew you analyse politics this well. Infact, you should forget that literature section and pack ur loads here. 4 Likes |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by donphilopus: 8:17pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
I'm laughing in Swahili! |
Re: Why G7 Governors Decamping Does Not Really Affect Jonathan's 2015 Chances by Mynd44: 8:17pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Olugbenger: Mynd_44, i never knew you analyse politics this well. Infact, you should forget that literature section and pack ur loads here.I love being quiet but when people wanna say the wrong things, I get pissed 1 Like |
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