McSpeedy04:
I didn't know there's a cure for dicks. Wow.

losprince:
Both ishilove and jeromeblack could be somewhere in the Bahamas cuddled together after some ravenous love making trying to lead us to believe they are eternal enemies while infact they can't do without each other and the simple non-existence of one could lead to to extinction of the other. I'm done taking these two love mongers serious.

KoiceReloaded:
Deja Vu (A rewatch)

Some trippy time traveling_shit that dipped a bit into a concept initiated by Minority Report. Some movies really do age like fine wine.

7.5/10

mekaprime:


The movie went on well for me, till the very end when they decided to screw things up. Deja vu is a feeling that one has actually experienced something that is actually happening for the first time. So it's basically a sort of time loop in a circular format. Washington ended the time loop by saving the girl & stopping the bombing, but he did so at the detriment of his life, a past life that traveled to the future. Analysing it logically & going by the theoretical rule of time travel, that action of his creates a new timeline & ought to wipe him out of existence from the present & future, but damn no, they had to make it a happy ever after. It's similar to going back in time & killing someone in the past, that person is automatically erased from the present & future timeline created.

JeromeBlack:




I too have watched this nollywood movie

joseph1832:
em, pardon me, wasn't the Denzel of the future the one that was killed?

mekaprime:

wow!.. You're actually right. The events had already happened in the present/future, so he basically goes back in time to save the girl & stop the bomb & he dies in the process. So it was future him who died, so basically he's still intact in the timeline.. Tnx for pointing this out jare, your head day there.

losprince:

Then how do you rate it?

mekaprime:


The movie went on well for me, till the very end when they decided to screw things up. Deja vu is a feeling that one has actually experienced something that is actually happening for the first time. So it's basically a sort of time loop in a circular format. Washington ended the time loop by saving the girl & stopping the bombing, but he did so at the detriment of his life, a past life that traveled to the future. Analysing it logically & going by the theoretical rule of time travel, that action of his creates a new timeline that ought to wipe him out of existence from the present & future, but damn no, they had to make it a happy ever after. It's similar to going back in time & killing someone in the past, that person is automatically erased from the present & future timeline created.

JeromeBlack:



2/10

losprince:


Yes I agree, the actor that played jeromeblack performed very poorly, his cunnilingus skill was below par, his thrusts were dull and he had no clue what to do with a woman's mammilla. While the actress of ishilove was horrendous and I guess part of it was because of the unskilled jeromeblack, but she mostly laid down on the mattress like a log of wood staring at the camera (in a creepy way if I might add) and moaning inconsistently. It was like watching a twelve year old having a go at adult cherry while the adult pretends (unsuccessfully) like she was getting it for the first time from a seasoned explorer.

MobileGees:
My brain is telling me not to watch this movie

But my mind is telling to watch it

KoiceReloaded:
12 Monkeys (A rewatch)

This is one of the few movies that does time travelling right. Continuity of time is maintained, cuz it is absolute. No matter what you do, you can't change the past.

This movie, Interstellar and Primer are my top recommendations of time travelling movies for the way they were able to limit the scope within the boundaries of physics laws. They made time travelling an interesting notion to contemplate, rather than a mere science fiction gimmick.

8/10

JeromeBlack:


This is confirmed bullshite, koice.

12 monkeys actually ignores the actual problem with time travel. The butterfly effect. The moment you go back into the past, the present will be changed. Time travel means timelines get changed.

JeromeBlack:

In interstellar, time travel was a weak ex machina designed to solve an unsolvable problem. A giant tessaract supposedly built by humans in the future just appeared out of nowhere to help the protagonist send messages to his daughter in the past.

But the again, it might have not been time travel if one considers te relativity of time as mentioned in the movie. The protagonist did not age and so, he was sending it it the present which stood still for him as time works differently in a black hole. But his daughter got the message and was growing up as time was moving on earth.

Had they really explored this relativity, I would have given the movie a pass on time travel.

KoiceReloaded:


Hold up. First of all, the very notion of time travel is ridiculous in the sense that it violates every fundamental premises of physics. There are no theorical rules of time travel, just like there are no logical explanation of time travel - time travel operates beyond the fringes of time and space, and thus not guided by physics relativity laws. Naturally, with cause and effect thrown in the_shitter, there arises a number of inconsistencies, like bootstrap, Grandfather, Hitler, and Predestination paradox.

The kind of paradox used on Deja Vu is of the grandfather variety. It's a scenerio which generates a number of timeline inconsistencies related to the possibility of altering the past, or to put it in another way, it's a scenerio whereby everything can go wrong or right, and in turn initiates a time loop paradox. I know, I know, It's complicated as hell.

What I'm trying to say is Doug went back in time multiple times, and failed multiple times till he finally got it right. Don't ask me to elaborate further, cuz I won't be able to. It's a trippy_shit that doesn't make sense most of the time.

mekaprime:


Nice exposition. But my reference to rules & logic on time travel was based on fictional science which encapsulates movies,series & books on time travel I've read over the years and not based on real science.
In real science, time travel as a concept may not be feasible for now because of our lack of understanding of the subject matter, but its theoretically possible. If you call it ridiculous/ unreasonable because it violates every fundamental premise of physics, that argument of yours stands, if the reference to time travel is based on fiction science. Time travel in real science has a different theoretical explication & application to the fictional time travel shenanigan we know.
According to the concept of Time dilation in physics, Albert Einstein's theorised on the concept of relatively. Relatively which he categorized under two types of time dilation. Special relativity & general relativity. Though this idea/theory may seem far fetched but over the years, scientists have come to confirm them through experiments.
Special Relativity states the much of a muchness of the space and time space-time, and when your speed in relative to other objects is close to the speed of light, time goes slower for you than for the people who are not encapsulated by the speed of light.
So also the theory of General Relativity which predicts that time passes more slowly for objects in gravitational fields eg Earth than for objects far from such fields.
But i strongly believe that further research & work in field of Time dilation will some day in the far far distant future, make the fictional time travel a reality.

JeromeBlack:





In interstellar, time travel was a weak ex machina designed to solve an unsolvable problem. A giant tessaract supposedly built by humans in the future just appeared out of nowhere to help the protagonist send messages to his daughter in the past.

But the again, it might have not been time travel if one considers te relativity of time as mentioned in the movie. The protagonist did not age and so, he was sending it it the present which stood still for him as time works differently in a black hole. But his daughter got the message and was growing up as time was moving on earth.

Had they really explored this relativity, I would have given the movie a pass on time travel.

mekaprime:


I beg to differ here, the concept of relativity used in this movie was well/accurately explored. It was in fact, within the confines of special relatively as theorised by Einstein.

KoiceReloaded:

That's why I said they worked it within the confines of laws of relativity. The irony of your comment is you inadvertently consolidated my original comment. In 12 Monkeys, they didn't ignore the butterfly effect at all, rather, they worked around it. For instance, in Cole's final mission, in the process of trying to kill the man with the virus, got himself killed instead. Why? You can't alter history once it has been observed. 12 Monkeys is very clear on this - You can't change the past. Time is absolute, whilst maintaining it's relativity. It's not an exact science, but credible.

You're so hasty to refute what I said that you forgot to comprehend the full meaning of my comment. Time travel will always be a polarizing topic since it doesn't exist within the known laws of physics.

KoiceReloaded:




I can't go into this right now because there is a lot more complex science involved. I remember they published a book about it. One thing I can authoritatively tell you right now is that the science used on Interstellar is very real.

Clubmaster:
Who else have felt this way before?

I am now in the habit of leaving movies unfinished no matter how interesting it is, whenever I have like 20 mins left, I will lose interest.


I presently have like three movies which I am yet to conclude.

JeromeBlack:




You are alone.

Clubmaster:
My question was directed at people with a fully functioning thinking faculty you know


Be patient, I will get to your IQ category soon.

KoiceReloaded:

That's why I said they worked it within the confines of laws of relativity. The irony of your comment is you inadvertently consolidated my original comment. In 12 Monkeys, they didn't ignore the butterfly effect at all, rather, they worked around it. For instance, in Cole's final mission, in the process of trying to kill the man with the virus, got himself killed instead. Why? You can't alter history once it has been observed. 12 Monkeys is very clear on this - You can't change the past. Time is absolute, whilst maintaining it's relativity. It's not an exact science, but credible.

mekaprime:


The movie 12 monkeys was based on the concept of Butterfly effect. Technically they didn't include the idea of alternate timeline to it. To me, i think the butterfly effect in the movie wasn't well explored. Just saying, a ripple effect in the past by a time traveller ought to create an alternate/parallel universe.

JeromeBlack:


See this neanderthal talking. You were probably the first to walk on hind legs in your family.