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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by omenka(m): 2:24pm On Dec 26, 2013
Sincere 9gerian: Premium Times propaganda! They'r too desperate to observe even a christmas break. Yeye dey smell!

Why not contact those that prepared the budget instead of contacting people that know nothing about the budget or how the budget was prepared? Why not contact officials of the ministry of finance or budget office? Isn't that the RIGHT thing to do as journalists who are truely interested in finding out the truth or exposing corruption? How are we sure the said items are in the budget?

And to confirm that it is all propaganda, they had to insert the president's name in the title. Does the president go through every detail in the budget? If this report were a positive development, Premium Times would definitely not have used the name of the president in the title.

Even if people want to steal, wont they do it intelligently?

More over, the reason the budget passes through the legislature is to prevent things like this. Especially now that the opposition has good numbers in the NASS, there is no reason such ridiculous provisions in the budget should be passed.

Just like the CBN governor's false alarm, this allegations too should be investigated. Those who prepared the budget should provide clarifications. Any official found wanting should be punished according to the law.

However, if the report turns out to be false, like other previous propaganda, the indelible shame will remain on Premium Times.

Meanwhile, when will the Nigeria media tell Nigerians the budgetary provisions for important projects across the country? This 2014 budget was presented over 2 weeks ago but till date, the Nigeria media is yet to critically analyse the budget for provisons made for projects that affect the life of majority of Nigerians across the country. All they'v been doing is screening the entire budget for tools for propaganda just to score cheap political points. Its politics, politics and politics. Shame!!!

Come on! Saometimes there is great wisdom in just keeping quiet. Even fools know that.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:30pm On Dec 26, 2013
Obiagelli:
who do we hold responsible for errors if any in budget?
So if an official of the presidency or a federal civil servants engages in corrupt practices or criminality, should we then say Jonathan engaged in the act simply because he is the president? What sort of logic is that? It doesn't make sense. The proper and sensible thing to do is to investigate any act of corruption or criminality and punish those culpable according to the law.

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by omenka(m): 2:32pm On Dec 26, 2013
collynzo2: If this is truly contained in the budget, why hasn't the APC members of the national assembly raised any alarm since it was presented to them?
This smells fishy.

First off, they've not started debating the budget on the floor yet.

Secondly, wouldn't you be one of the first to say they are "politicizing" the issue if they raised an alarm
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 26, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
So if an official of the presidency or a federal civil servants engages in corrupt practices or criminality, should we then say Jonathan engaged in the act simply because he is the president? What sort of logic is that? It doesn't make sense. The proper and sensible thing to do is to investigate any act of corruption or criminality and punish those culpable according to the law.
you see your village sense again, the budget went through the presidency (all appointed by the president) then he decided to present a flawed budget to us. That means he didn't do his job. Did I vote the minister? or what are you talking about. Imagine Obama presenting fraudulent errors in his Obamacare or budget.

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:37pm On Dec 26, 2013
omenka:

Come on! Saometimes there is great wisdom in just keeping quiet. Even fools know that.
And when did fools start giving counsels on wisdom? What does a fool know about wisdom?
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by taharqa: 2:37pm On Dec 26, 2013
PT only recently multiplied d average bpd of crude PRODUCED in Nigeria with the average price of Crude Oil of a barrel per day for 365 days, Subtracted it from d amount of money the Govt received from d Sales AND declared d Resulting Difference (which was bw #3-#4trillion) as 'missing', 'stolen' by d FG. Imagine that!! And this was just about 2 weeks ago.... I can't undastad why people can come to judgement on this so quickly when it is so obvious from d article, that lots of details are missing here; details that PT didn't bother (maybe, deliberately) to find out or share in the article

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by taharqa: 2:41pm On Dec 26, 2013
Obiagelli:
you see your village sense again, the budget went through the presidency (all appointed by the president) then he decided to present a flawed budget to us. That means he didn't do his job. Did I vote the minister? or what are you talking about. Imagine Obama presenting fraudulent errors in his Obamacare or budget.
There was actuali errors with Obamacare. That's exactly why there were problems in its implementation recently, website related errors even. OLODO...

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by egift(m): 2:43pm On Dec 26, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
So if an official of the presidency or a federal civil servants engages in corrupt practices or criminality, should we then say Jonathan engaged in the act simply because he is the president? What sort of logic is that? It doesn't make sense. The proper and sensible thing to do is to investigate any act of corruption or criminality and punish those culpable according to the law.

Sometime it amazes me the nature of comments you post. Here are the two issues you are dancing around:
1. If there is an error in the budget, who do we blame?
2. If someone deliberately insert fraudulent figures in our budget - whose responsibility is it to order a prosecution, nothing have been done?
3. These fraudulent funds that from the onset was earmarked for stealing - whose pocket does it settle in?

My answer is Jonathan. Let see how you dance around the question again.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:49pm On Dec 26, 2013
taharqa: There was actuali errors with Obamacare. That's exactly why there was problems in its implementation recently, website related errors even. OLODO...
fraudulent errors? or don't quote me with nonsense. Btw I am still waiting for adeshina*s storage facilities in every local government.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:49pm On Dec 26, 2013
Obiagelli:
you see your village sense again, the budget went through the presidency (all appointed by the president) then he decided to present a flawed budget to us. That means he didn't do his job. Did I vote the minister? or what are you talking about. Imagine Obama presenting fraudulent errors in his Obamacare or budget.
Politics, hatred and desperation has already eaten up your senses. You'r so desperate that you'v already reached conclusions on this issue based on this report alone. According to you, the budget is now "flawed"

Anyway, thank goodness, your senselessness is not what obtains in real life. In real life, every case is dissected and blames apportioned to individuals based on their involvement in the case. A president cannot be guilty based on the corrupt practices perpetrated by a minister, even though he appointed that minister. A father cannot be punished for the crimes committed by his children. Your husband cannot be guilty for the several murders you committed. And so on the so forth.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by egift(m): 2:49pm On Dec 26, 2013
taharqa: There was actuali errors with Obamacare. That's exactly why there was problems in its implementation recently, website related errors even. OLODO...

There is no error in Obamacare (ACA) law, rather what we have are policies that the Republican do not agree on. Obama have been making concessions (including extensions of deadlines) to get everyone to join. On the website, there where errors on the site, a new company was brought in to clean up the website.

Abeg, when will Jonathan and his crew clean up all the fraudulent figures that liter on the budget?
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by nduchucks: 2:50pm On Dec 26, 2013
taharqa: There was actuali errors with Obamacare. That's exactly why there was problems in its implementation recently, website related errors even. OLODO...

abeg tell them o. This budget of a thing is highly complex and even after several reviews it is still possible to include the millions of naira for non existent boats. Infact the complexity can cause a chair to be mistaken for a hand bag as shown below. cheesy


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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Nobody: 2:53pm On Dec 26, 2013
ndu_chucks:

abeg tell them o. This budget of a thing is highly complex and even after several reviews it is still possible to include the millions of naira for non existent boats. Infact the complexity can cause a chair to be mistaken for a hand bag as shown below. cheesy


LOL.

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by IleIfe2(m): 3:29pm On Dec 26, 2013
ndu_chucks:

abeg tell them o. This budget of a thing is highly complex and even after several reviews it is still possible to include the millions of naira for non existent boats. Infact the complexity can cause a chair to be mistaken for a hand bag as shown below. cheesy



grin grin
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by meforyou1(m): 3:31pm On Dec 26, 2013
Premium times are just a bunch of illiterates. U think govt officials just put figures on papers on fictitious items and call it a budget? Abeg they should say something else joor
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by papparatzzi2013: 3:35pm On Dec 26, 2013
me_for_you: Premium times are just a bunch of illiterates. U think govt officials just put figures on papers on fictitious items and call it a budget? Abeg they should say something else joor

Mr Know Govt Activty Too Well,

Explain the plane and boat maintenance meant for nigeria missions abroad included in the budget for the whole world to hear.

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by agbameta: 3:37pm On Dec 26, 2013
taharqa: I do not regard PremiumTimes as a Credible Source, nor do I bliv their stories without sm level of collaboration from other sources.... Asking for details, esp from d MOFA, MOF and d Budget Office is d minimum, bliv me

Like another poster said, the only credible source you are waiting for is okupe and abati, but unfortunately for you, the spokesman for the ministry involve in this same article said the provision for aircraft fuel cost in the budget for the foreign missions was strange, as the federal government does not maintain aircraft in any of its embassies abroad.

Scums like you are nothing but sad and pathetic disgrace burden on humanity..

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by OmoTier1(m): 3:40pm On Dec 26, 2013
taharqa: I do not regard PremiumTimes as a Credible Source, nor do I bliv their stories without sm level of collaboration from other sources.... Asking for details, esp from d MOFA, MOF and d Budget Office is d minimum, bliv me
Are you not a human being? Can't you get a hold of the budget and peruse it yourself and tell the world the truth? Shame on you!
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Kairoseki77: 4:16pm On Dec 26, 2013
Why is this not on FP?

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by stevecantrell: 4:45pm On Dec 26, 2013
A paltry 30 million ? Really ?
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Italiano1: 4:48pm On Dec 26, 2013
Jonathan and his cohorts are resolutely determined to bankrupt Nigeria- they will not cease until they achieve their goal.

Only a dunce cannot see that Jonathan has declared an open season for all his subordinates and associates to rob Nigeria blind

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by papparatzzi2013: 4:52pm On Dec 26, 2013
Italiano1: Jonathan and his cohorts are resolutely determined to bankrupt Nigeria- they will not cease until they achieve their goal.

Only a dunce cannot see that Jonathan has declared an open season for all his subordinates and associates to rob Nigeria blind

GEJ has declared free for all looting for all his aides. grin grin grin grin

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by stevecantrell: 5:09pm On Dec 26, 2013
GEJ is an angel...wait, his defenders will soon

arrive to rubbish this thread.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by IleIfe2(m): 5:27pm On Dec 26, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
So if an official of the presidency or a federal civil servants engages in corrupt practices or criminality, should we then say Jonathan engaged in the act simply because he is the president? What sort of logic is that? It doesn't make sense. The proper and sensible thing to do is to investigate any act of corruption or criminality and punish those culpable according to the law.

Yes Jonathan can be held responsible because he protect blatant corruption. Koro-koro in your face corruption. angry angry angry angry

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Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by since1914(m): 5:55pm On Dec 26, 2013
The budget proposal is not a secret document, the 2014 budget proposal is already available and can be downloaded here at the budget office website below.

http://www.budgetoffice.gov.ng/2014_proposal.html
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Pennywise(m): 6:41pm On Dec 26, 2013
Sincere 9gerian: Premium Times propaganda! They'r too desperate to observe even a christmas break. Yeye dey smell!

And to confirm that it is all propaganda, they had to insert the president's name in the title. Does the president go through every detail in the budget? If this report were a positive development, Premium Times would definitely not have used the name of the president in the title.


Which president signs a document he did not take the pain to read? The problems Nigeria face with this president is far more serious than it seems. This admission by no less a person than sincere9gerian a member of Jonathan's inner circle has grave implications for the security of this country. A responsible House of Assembly will take note.
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by IleIfe2(m): 5:57am On Dec 27, 2013
papparatzzi2013:

GEJ has declared free for all looting for all his aides. grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Pukkah: 9:35am On Dec 27, 2013
I am laughing.

Why am I laughing?

Because I am not supposed to cry.

-Adapted from Fela Anikulapo-Kuti
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by Ayekotoo(m): 9:47am On Dec 27, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
Stop pretending to be foolish. The presidency is an institution. The president is a person and he does not have to and cannot personally go through the entire budget. There are officials in the presidency who do that.
why are u embarrassing yourself? u meant the president doesn't know how budget works? infact, he should be the one to present it to the national assembly in person but I can't blame him because he doesn't know what it entails, how it works and can't defend it. what a dullard in Aso Rock!
Re: Authority Stealing: Jonathan Budgets Millions For Non-existing Aircraft, Boats by IleIfe2(m): 7:37am On Dec 28, 2013
papparatzzi2013:

Mr Know Govt Activty Too Well,

Explain the plane and boat maintenance meant for nigeria missions abroad included in the budget for the whole world to hear.

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