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| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Sammy79(m): 2:40pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
I think it all depends on what you want and believe that God wants for your future. What future can you see ahead of you? What do you want to achieve in life? What are you creative abilities? Lasting financial reward and security + fulfilment will come only when you have these priorities right. It is not about Canada, Australia, UK or Nija. There are Nigerians in all of these places having different experiences. Just be sure your destiny is connected to your location. Some people on this forum realised it lately that theirs' didn't, some realised it early enough and went back home and others are finding fulfilment living in the UK. On a light note, all things are possible to him that works hard and have faith in God. I moved to the UK about a year ago with family and have a white collar job that pays 2k after tax!...it is God and hard work. Yes, it might mean having to re-skill yourself and target high-skilled job areas but once you have your foot in the door, you can only continue to go up...even witches and wizard can't stop your upward advancement because God will be with you. Whilst there is thin line between pride and ignorance, you must be able articulate the future you want to get to, even at a job interview, you must be really 'clued in' to compete in this environment. All said, God will crown your effort if you are set in the right direction. And even if you are not, He will, in His mercies, crown your effort but redirect your ways if you acknowledge God in all your ways. All the best! 4 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 4:04pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
dodokire12: I would not advise you to stay back in UK after your studies,simple as A,B,C.I disagree with you. In this type of issue, our personal experience is irrelevant rather we should just look at the bigger picture. Name any profession,I will gladly chose to practice it in UK than Nigeria. However, It easy to set up business in Nigeria than UK but that is because UK is an advanced economy. Your husband, like most Nigerians value certificate more than experience and having right personality and attitude which doesn't cut it with UK labour market. MSC means nothing to me when I am interviewing candidates for a role. Attitude, personality, skill set rank higher than qualification. An average Nigerian lists his/her qualification on CV first before experience. I don't know what your hubby studied but the market place in UK and London is unique. It is service oriented. If you don't study the right stuff and gain experience, you will struggle, like your hubby. I know of many nigerian friends earning way over £100k and no connection involved...just the right skills. most bank CEOs I know in Nigeria earn on average £200k excluding outside deals. If you live in London, you got to aim banking, law, accountancy and IT. Others areas may not earn you much except public sector jobs like Doctor etc. another problem is many are not informed. Many Nigeria guys are just with the wrong clicks that add little or no value to their lives. The way of life in this country is unique like most countries and there are a lot of Nigerians that find it extremely difficult to understand and adjust to life in the UK. They therefore moan and want to go back to Nigeria. But once you do, work on yourself (not just academically), opportunities will be pursuing you. It doesn't come easily or overnight though. There are other life considerations other than how much money you make at month end. I love Nigeria and love to visit but always looking fwd to leaving. Everyone in Nigeria is suffering(Rich and poor alike). Those that are doing well just take consolation in the fact that they are doing better than their 'neighbours'. But in the right scheme of things and compared to experiences from other countries I have been to (and I have been to many around the globe), everyone in Nigeria is suffering physically and mentally due to structural problems associated with Nigerian society, and this includes the very wealthy. 8 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by wayforward: 5:50pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
EBK2: what's this one saying... CRAP... try and contribute positively by redefining all what you've just typed here. have you ever had £20,000 in cash which the OP is about investing in Uk not to talk of £100,000, do you really know the CBN interset rate compare to Bank of England ...know you don't.. stop comparing the majority in England that lives on social services to those in Nigeria which money works harder for them.. do you know how many people that commit suicide because they couldn't afford tv licence, so funny i bet you don't even pay that  |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by justwise(m): 6:04pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
wayforward: Please tell us, i want to know as i never heard that before. 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Krucifax(m): 6:19pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
EBK2: My friend don't give people false hopes about something you clearly are not sure of. The bolded above is very unlikely,why? Look below at what 99.99% of[b] EVERYBODY[/b] earns in the U.K. AVERAGE UK SALARY BY JOB Average Salary Starting Salary Senior Salaries average salary uk £30,000 £19,000 £40,000 accountant £27,684£16,000-£21,000£37,000 – £52,000 teaching assistant £12,583£8,000-£10,000£15,000 – £18,000 social worker £25,987£19,000-£21,000£30,000 – £36,000 pharmacist £37,645£24,000-£31,000£44,000 – £51,000 teacher £30,402£20,000-£21,000£37,000 – £45,000 primary school teacher £28,773,£17,000-£23,000,£38,000 – £49,000 midwife £24,444,£17,000-£22,000,£28,000 – £37,000 personal trainer £23,660,£13,000-£14,000,£42,000 – £71,000 actuary £54,183,£29,000-£38,000,£73,000 – £88,000 dentist £58,554,£25,000-£36,000,£74,000 – £97,000 paramedic £26,732,£20,000-£21,000,£31,000 – £34,000 physiotherapist £27,328,£20,000-£23,000,£37,000 – £51,000 dental nurse £16,462,£12,000-£14,000,£19,000 – £22,000 radiographer £26,291,£20,000-£22,000,£32,000 – £40,000 lawyer £41,369,£12,000-£30,000,£54,000 – £110,000 barrister £49,910,£22,000-£31,000,£74,000 – £100,000 police officer £32,331,£20,000-£27,000,£38,000 – £43,000 architect £30,932,£21,000-£26,000,£40,000 – £51,000 chemical engineering £38,538 £26,000-£27,000 £51,000 – £70,000 psychologist £34,882 £17,000-£18,000 £50,000 – £64,000 software engineer £32,843 £22,000-£27,000 £41,000 – £53,000 occupational therapist £23,530 £15,000-£21,000 £30,000 – £40,000 clinical psychologist £39,956 £25,000-£31,000 £50,000 – £90,000 GP Doctor £50,543 £21,000-£35,000 £78,000 – £100,000 veterinary nurse £17,231 £12,000-£15,000 £20,000 – £22,000 nurses £24,444 £18,000-£20,000 £28,000 – £34,000 project manager £44,654 £28,000-£36,000 £57,000 – £74,000 civil engineer £28,581 £20,000-£25,000 £34,000 – £42,000 NQT £29,843 £21,000-£31,000 £25,000 – £35,000 dental hygienist £51,452 £21,000-£36,000 £51,000 – £63,000 train driver £32,400 £18,000-£20,000 £33,000 – £44,000 pilot £57,931 £26,000-£40,000 £100000 – £110000 consultant £43,576 £26,000-£32,000 £63,000 – £85,000 mechanical engineering £29,753 £19,000-£24,000 £37,000 – £46,000 investment banking £49,930 £25,000-£38,000 £62,000 – £72,000 quantity surveyor £28,777 £20,000-£24,000 £35,000 – £40,000 cabin crew air hostess (Flight Attendant) £15,380 £11,000-£12,000 £24,000 – £29,000 nursery nurse £13,220 £11,000-£12,000 £15,000 – £17,000 paralegal £19,037 £13,000-£14,000 £23,000 – £28,000 firefighter £28,250 £21,157 £36,365-£40,109 optometrist £35,917 £26,000-£31,000 £42,000 – £47,000 chartered accountant £33,583 £20,000-£25,000 £44,000 – £59,000 recruitment consultant £24,182 £18,000-£20,000 £30,000 – £37,000 electrician £24,368 £14,000-£19,000 £30,000 – £37,000 journalist £25,023 £15,000-£19,000 £33,000 – £41,000 biomedical scientist £29,879,£20,000-£24,000,£37,000 – £46,000 headteacher £52,000,£43,000-£49,000,£60,000 – £80,000 graphic designer £21,038,£15,000-£18,000,£26,000 – £31,000 civil engineering £28,581,£20,000-£25,000,£34,000 – £42,000 PE teacher £20,002,£11,000-£15,000,£35,000 – £39,000 surgeon £55,000,£18,000-£35,000,£100,000 – £150,000 plumber £22,120,£12,000-£17,000,£29,000 – £40,000 stock broker, £40,473,£24,000-£25,000,£71,000 – £150,000 physiotherapy £43,499,£14,000,£80,000 investment banker £51,087,£23,000-£35,000.£85,000 – £100,000 - See more at: http://www.netsalarycalculator.co.uk/#sthash.4tfbG2Xv.dpuf 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 6:27pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: Are you sure you've lived or live in the UK? How could you not know that you get to pay over £100 per annum for TV license to own a TV set? Or don't you have a TV in your house? These are the unique unannounced things Nigerians enjoy back home. Apart from life security, a working system and a conducive environment, there is no life in the UK. You stay indoor and get so bored, you start feeling claustrophobic. I feel sorry for those who go there to work. In Nigeria, after a long hard day at work, you get to visit mama Nkem bar, chat with friends, shack some Odeku and point & kill Pepper soup and feel refreshed again but in the UK, nah!!! You can't even spend that money else "you know what happens when you don't get your bills sorted". Abeg Govt provide 24 hours power only and see how many Nigerians remain in the UK or anywhere abroad. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by solomonwis(m): 6:32pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
You are about to start a blind argument! Do you know the meaning of average income? It doesn't mean there's a ceiling with what you quoted. He's not giving false hope (and I can attest to that). Moreover,who says they have to keep a single job to be able to earn what he quoted? You shot yourself in the leg when you said the bolded is unlikely yet you quoted an average of "£40,473,£24,000-£25,000,£71,000 – £150,000" for stockbrokers! Excuse me my friend, look before you leap biko! Krucifax: 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by justwise(m): 6:37pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: I dont think you understand why i quoted that section of his post and made my comment, please read and understand before replying. May be you know.....how many people have committed suicide because of TV license? The second part of your post is just full of non-substantial assumptions and you don't seems to know jack about life in the UK 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Krucifax(m): 7:01pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
solomonwis: You are about to start a blind argument! Do you know the meaning of average income? It doesn't mean there's a ceiling with what you quoted. He's not giving false hope (and I can attest to that). Moreover,who says they have to keep a single job to be able to earn what he quoted? There is no one arguing or starting an argument the post was started by someone asking for advice about a location. So i as someone who lives in that location is offering information. I had to point the "£100k" poster out because if you live in the U.K like i do then you know that that statement is likely false. David Cameron(Prime Minister) His official salary is £140K per annum. The Average salary for a middle post male(with years of experience) in 2013 is £31,678. On an aside you said you can "attest" to what was said so please enlighten us as you seem to know more than me who lives in London. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by solomonwis(m): 7:09pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Krucifax: The enlightenment is in the link you posted earlier. You quoted an average salary of stock broker,£40,473,£24,000-£25,000,£71,000 – £150,000. Need I say more? |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by mayo47(m): 7:14pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: Try read in between the lines! he was referring to those claimed to kill themselves because they can't afford tv license |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by mayo47(m): 7:17pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Krucifax: I still can't comprehend why david cameron salary is listed, are you saying no one earns more than him? |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by mayo47(m): 7:20pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: Yeah he doesn't at all, they all based on "den say den say" stories. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 7:44pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: I understand now, and I'm sorry for misinterpreting you. I bloody hate the hype about the UK, I hate it because I lived and studied there for years. There's no social life there, just busy people working as slaves for the Government. I've come to realise that a white man cannot do without slaves and since the abolition of slavery, they have turned against themselves to recreate the modern day slaves. Well, this is my personal opinion and the opinion of most Nigerians i'm friends with both in the UK and SE Asia. If the Nigeria Government can provide power only for a start, I can guarantee a 30% of Nigerians living abroad returning home within the 1st 2 years. Let's cut the pretence, do you agree with me or not? 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 7:45pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Krucifax You are completely ignorant of UK job situation. Forget those average salary. Ask from people doing well in the UK and you will discover those so called average salary are what it is. I have accountants or IT people on contracts jobs earning £500 - £700 per day. UK is a place of opportunities if you are able to get your way in. Have you seen people making a gain of more than £200k from selling their house. If God is with you and you train yourself in the right skill. You will thank your God for taking the decision to relocate to the UK. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Segzy23: 8:06pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: I don't blame them for not giving you a job, you found it so difficult to comprehend a simple sentence until 2 posters pointed it out to you. I am not sure how you will pass a simple interview process. 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by justwise(m): 8:11pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: Of course i disagree with you, you are just like many Nigerians who come to the UK with the hope of hitting it 'big' by all means within short time and when they failed the whiteman-slavery job bandwagon starts. Many Nigerians struggle to survive in the UK because they are not used to living in an organized society with defined value system. Yes people in the UK may work and pay alot of tax to the govt but that money is put into good use, that tax deducted from your pay is for your health care, security, education, feeding(for those on benefit) etc. People appreciate quality of life here, i'm not sure about Nigeria. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by wayforward: 8:15pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Krucifax: lol you've started behaving like the white people by monopolizing and dishing out false information on internet so people won't know what's going on. is it not what they publish you will believe just as the way the moderators on nairaland works, go to job center and see lots of people applying with all this figure you put on here being advertised yet only few get the job.....FACT.... i mean one out of fifty. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Krucifax(m): 8:19pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
toyetade: Krucifax I'm not even sure how to respond to this. How you from where you are could possibly be arguing with me on this point is beyond comprehension. I'm not sure if i sure should inform you or just ignore you to be honest. But for the sake of other people who are genuinely interested in this matter i would say this,please look at the websites below. They are some of the best ones for job seekers. Go and check how much people get paid in the U.K. p.s The only people who tend to make "salaries" £100k + are C.E.Os or very senior executives of big companies. Investment bankers basic salaries are about half that but can top it easily with bonuses "when" they do well. Also to the poster quoting big bucks for daily contract pay i also refer you to the sites below if you see "one" job (out of the thousands below) paying £700 a day please point it out! http://www.jobsite.co.uk/ http://www.totaljobs.com/ http://www.fish4.co.uk/ http://www.reed.co.uk/ http://www.monster.co.uk/ 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Segzy23: 8:22pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
wayforward: Dude, I am not sure you know a lot about the UK. People don't carry cash around in Ghana must go bags like they do in Naija. EBK2 points are valid. You need to talk to more people, and see beyond those around you. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by wayforward: 8:26pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
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| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Segzy23: 8:39pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Krucifax: Krucifax, it has been pointed out to you, yet you still don't believe. Like EBK2, I know of many nigerian friends earning way over £100k Now, how many are we talking about? It could be any number between 10 - 20. He mentioned some particular sectors, if you do your research well, it wouldn't take you time to realise those working in the sectors mentioned are well paid. toyetade Also gave you some examples, yet you still didn't believe him. Dude you have to be equipped with the right information. Having the internet at your fingertips is not enough, knowing how to search for information on it is the key. Dude forget the sites you mentioned, just go to jobserve.com, use the filters and search for contract jobs, I am sure you will change your New year prayer request before midnight |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: On the contrary, I went there to study. I did that and got out without submitting a single job application in the UK. I'm still studying though but in SE Asia. So, unlike your presumption, I had no intention of making it big in the UK. I'm only sharing my opinion on the high cost of living and taxation down there. It's modern day slavery. Also, you mentioned health care, education and feeding. Does these benefits apply to immigrants or citizens? My tuition fee covers my health insurance and my education was paid for in full. Feeding too. So how does the high cost of living and taxes benefit me? Until you stop living in self denial, you'll never retrace your root. If you earn N1000 Naira in the UK and another man earn N200 Naira in Nigeria. You both will be affording the same quality of life. Tell yourself the truth. Like I said, if Nigeria can get her power right, long lost brothers, sisters and uncles will start returning home. The UK hype is overrated. 3 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Ugosample(m): 8:45pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Wow! This thread has exploded! And it's on front page? Wow! I.m grateful to all who contributed to this thread. As i said before, my intention is to settle and start a new life probably marrying a native too. I am seriously considering the Canada option too. I guess i have to develop myself to survive in these countries. Thank you all, and keep the advice coming. |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by justwise(m): 8:54pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough:This is coming from an educated individual? Do you know my root and how in touch iam with my family? What is your level of education because you are shockingly, shockingly bad, so if i earned equivalent of N1000 naira in the UK which is about £4 and you earned N200 in Nigeria which is less than 50p, we both will affording the same quality of life? You made a very good decision to leave the UK 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Segzy23: 8:59pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
Ugosample: Wow! This thread has exploded! And it's on front page? Wow! I.m grateful to all who contributed to this thread. As i said before, my intention is to settle and start a new life probably marrying a native too. I am seriously considering the Canada option too. I guess i have to develop myself to survive in these countries. Thank you all, and keep the advice coming. Wherever you are, it is all about how you develop and position yourself. it may be hard initially, but once you leap over the hurdle, then you can go as far as you want. Good luck, remember you need to be friends with those who will push you in the right direction. I would recommend you read EBK2's post, the figures mentioned may be beyond your reach in the first couple of years, but you can get there and even beyond. however, you also need to be in the right sector. Some sectors are just more lucrative. Do your research well and align yourself with people who are successful. 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 9:04pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: This is coming from an educated individual? Do you know my root and how in touch iam with my family? What is your level of education because you are shockingly, shockingly bad, so if i earned equivalent of N1000 naira in the UK which is about £4 and you earned N200 in Nigeria which is less than 50p, we both will affording the same quality of life? You made a very good decision to leave the UK Sir, you're still living in self denial. I gave a ratio example of 4:1 which means that the cost of living in the UK is approximately 300% above that of Nigeria. Examples are: A star and flat screw-driver in the UK cost N200, in Nigeria its N50 - Increase by 300% A Bunch of banana that would cost N100 in Nigeria cost about N600 in the UK - An increase of 500% Titus Fish that i usually buy in Lagos for N80-N100 sells for N550 in the UK - Increase of over 400%. I could get a room self contain on the mainland in Lagos for about 200k a year meanwhile 200k can only rent me a studio apartment for only 3 months in the UK. And I haven't compared Utility. In that sense, if you earn N1000 Naira in the UK and another man earn N200 in Nigeria, you both will be affording the same quality of life. So stop living a lie and curb that ego sir. 3 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by justwise(m): 9:24pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: The more you post the more you exposes how little you know about life in general, on what bases are you comparing cost of living in the UK to that of Nigeria? These two countries are like two parallel lines, the systems are structured completely different from each other, you compare 'like' to 'like', you don't compare day and night. If i'm moving in to studio accommodation which will cost me 200k quarterly in the UK, i'm moving in with just my bag because the room is furnished already, bed, cooker, fridge, microwave, and every other thing needed is already there, but in Nigeria you buy all that, when you add all that together then you know the true cost of the self contain in Nigeria, not this primary one calculation you came up with here 3 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 9:39pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
justwise: I have met a lot of people like you who compare living standards using face values without analyzing the long term effect. If you rent a furnished studio apartment in the UK for N200k per quarter, that's a total of N800k per year. However, If i rent a room self contain in Nigeria for N200k for the whole year, I'll still have a difference of N600k to furnish my room with. And N600k can get me even more exotic gadgets. At the end of the year, you will be moving out of the house with your bags only, while i will be moving out with N600k worth of properties. So please tell me again who's "exposing how little he knows about life"? Stop living in self denial Sir, take my advice. 7 Likes |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by spikesC(m): 10:01pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
rudedough: Oga, this is the reason why people study economics. I'll break this to the minimum for you. Pounds and Naira are not in the same level. UK and Nigeria doesn't have the same economy. When you're looking at the rate of expenses of an individual in a particular location, you should also be looking at the rate of income in that same location. We have an adage in igbo land that says, "Akpa ta ya na Naira, e rie ya na Naira, Akpa ta ya na Dollar, e rie ya na Dollar". It means, if you make it in Naira, you spend it in Naira, if you make it in dollar, you spend it in dollar. I totally do understand where you're driving at but, seriously, in that place lives ignorance and stupidity. (no offense intended) If i start listing the benefits of living in the UK rather than in Nigeria (which would definitely be facts), it will mean that i'll have to succumb to a very degrading level of stupidity, trying to teach calculus to a primary 1 student. So, pls, stop fooling yourself with all these arant bullshiiiiit. Being black doesn't stop you from achieving your goals, it infact helps you to. Because you have to prove, to a level of distinction, that you're worthy of the achievement.  1 Like |
| Re: Is It Advisable To Settle In The United Kingdom After Studies by Nobody: 10:46pm On Dec 31, 2013 |
spikes C: Thanks for the economics lesson with Igbo proverb but we are not discussing all that here. What i am talking about is livelihood, not the benefits of living in the UK which i have earlier categorized into 3 aspects; security of life, a working administrative system and a conducive environment. Other than the aforementioned benefits, please list other benefits a Non-British national receive. My point is, people should stop hyping the UK with currency figures because the value of £4 in the UK is equivalent to N200 in Nigeria. They both can only afford a bunch of banana. And as such, if you earn N400,000 a month in the UK, you're not any better than someone who earns N100,000 a month in Nigeria. So cut the crap and curb that British Pounds rubbish. Only ignorant people who haven't lived in the UK would assume that a salary of £1,600 / month would afford them a good life in the UK.  Please!!! @Bolded, you must be very bad in mathematics. 2 Likes |
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