bumfem: we all know that JOHESU members articulate 80percent of hospitals' services.

The game has just began....we shall see who is indispensable.
Pls watch this page.

dozzybaba: -I see JOHESU shutting down all Public/private hospital pharmacies. No more drugs for patients.

-I see JOHESU shutting down all Nursing services. No more nursing care for patients that pee and poo on their beds.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Physiotherapy clinics. Motor/Okada accident patients undergoing rehabilitation will be in pains.

-I see JOHESU shutting all Radiography departments. Physical therapy can not commence without Imaging and X-ray.

-I see JOHESU shutting all laboratories including Blood banks. Women in labor, Pre-operative patients, accident victims and Neonates with jaundice may not survive this.


May God avert all these....but if these Professionals are unimportant and useless, JOHESU won't be this powerful.

JOHESU is NMA's 'frankeinstein creature'. Their overbearing attitudes were their tools.

Peace!

yemmy75:
Yea... True.

But I'm sure if u ask the patients, who are the consumers of these services, they would by far prefer a 1-yr JOHESU strike to a 1-wk NMA strike.

Emzybrown: What was the new NMA demand that FG accepted?

0key: Doctors might be 20% of the total health staff but they give out 70% of the total functions of the hospital whereas Johesu members, though 80% of staff capacity, contribute 30% of hospital functions.

when the lab scientists are not around, the pathologists can function effectively.
When the radiographers are not around, the radiologists are present.
Pharmacists only dispense drugs, so their work can be easily handled.
Nurses are d only group doing something meaningful but the house officers can serve in their stead momentarily.

In a nutshell, Hospital functions are performed mainly by the doctors and assisted by the nurses. Other Johesu members do more of fringe works.

yemmy75:
www.nairaland.com/1578353/fg-agrees-appoint-surgeon-general-federation

bumfem: Thank u so much dozzybaba.... U hit the nail hard on the head. Yemmy23... I can feel your ignorance about the workings of hospitals. It is time the public is educated on who is doing what. They have long been fed with fallacy from never-up-to date thing called NMA. Nigerians reserved the right to be correctly informed and know all the professionals that manage them them in the hospitals....
They must know that the Pharmacists are experts in drugs....so all prescriptions are never successful without them.
Nurses own the patients.... No Nurses....no admission. No admission...no comprehensive care.

Physiotherapists are Neurons-musculoskeletal practitioners. The last time I checked...all fractured patients never felt treated without the skill of a physio. No movement no life because motion is life.

Lab sciencetists....are clinical investigators. There is no modern medical practice without the lab scientist. They make diagnosis possible.evidence based practice is anchored on the appropriateness of diagnosis.

Imaging scientists... The radiograhers.....the indispensable ally in trauma, no imaging ...no surgery etc.....

The developed nations understand the importance of all.... By spending several millions of dollars to train these professionals
and go extra miles each year to bring in foreign professionals as they have continued to be in acute shortage.

What do we get in Nigeria....NMA wants to eliminate them on the alter of ego and sentiment not minding the grave consequence this protend to our nation and people.

We must all say no to the cancer in health sector.
Stay blessed.

yemmy75:
I'm not trying to down-play the importance of JOHESU to the health system here... Of course we all know that all parts of the health system complement one another, and none can function effectively in the absence of another. All I'm saying is that the allied health workers should not feel more important than they really are. Even in the developed world, there is no controversy about who the leader of the health team is, and the heights reached by the allied health workers is due to years of proven diligence, consistency, and mutual respect between the doctors and them.

Here, what we have is JOHESU trying to take over the health system as if its their birth right.

IMO, there's nothing wrong in JOHESU producing the Minister of Health or Surgeon-General if they actually EARN it.

Just by the way, I've never seen a pharmacist in a government hospital render any other service to a patient asides dishing out drugs (in contrast to what u said above)

Merci...

bumfem:

For your information, nobody is out on superiority contest here. Health professionals are the most satisfied with there job among various career in Nigeria. There is no doubt about that. Google across the world you will find same thread. You may check CNN most satisfying profession 2012/13. So JOHESU members are very happy people.
But, how do you handle NMA telling govt to withdrawal our allowances using the minister of health, that govt should stop recognizing health professionals as ''consultant'' against international norm, that only doctors must head hospitals in nigeria against best practices globally, that skipping of level 10 should stop despite years of collective agreement on it. That our specialists who are already being paid specialist allowance should be delisted.I can go on and on.

There may not be peace in health sector until NMA become realistic in its thought and embrace global beast practices.

Yemmy78....u can see no one is in superiority match here. Aferall there is no major diff in doctors salary and that of health professionals.......COMMESS vs CONHESS educated u more on this.
So why should NMA be having trouble with others structure and welfare.?

bumfem:

For your information, nobody is out on superiority contest here. Health professionals are the most satisfied with there job among various career in Nigeria. There is no doubt about that. Google across the world you will find same thread. You may check CNN most satisfying profession 2012/13. So JOHESU members are very happy people.
But, how do you handle NMA telling govt to withdrawal our allowances using the minister of health, that govt should stop recognizing health professionals as ''consultant'' against international norm, that only doctors must head hospitals in nigeria against best practices globally, that skipping of level 10 should stop despite years of collective agreement on it. That our specialists who are already being paid specialist allowance should be delisted.I can go on and on.

There may not be peace in health sector until NMA become realistic in its thought and embrace global beast practices.

Yemmy78....u can see no one is in superiority match here. Aferall there is no major diff in doctors salary and that of health professionals.......COMMESS vs CONHESS educated u more on this.
So why should NMA be having trouble with others structure and welfare.?

bumfem:

For your information, nobody is out on superiority contest here. Health professionals are the most satisfied with there job among various career in Nigeria. There is no doubt about that. Google across the world you will find same thread. You may check CNN most satisfying profession 2012/13. So JOHESU members are very happy people.
But, how do you handle NMA telling govt to withdrawal our allowances using the minister of health, that govt should stop recognizing health professionals as ''consultant'' against international norm, that only doctors must head hospitals in nigeria against best practices globally, that skipping of level 10 should stop despite years of collective agreement on it. That our specialists who are already being paid specialist allowance should be delisted.I can go on and on.

There may not be peace in health sector until NMA become realistic in its thought and embrace global beast practices.

Yemmy78....u can see no one is in superiority match here. Aferall there is no major diff in doctors salary and that of health professionals.......COMMESS vs CONHESS educated u more on this.
So why should NMA be having trouble with others structure and welfare.?

0key: Salary issue is another area we have to consider. Salary is worked out based on the nature of d profession, job evaluation, total hours of schooling, total hours of work input. In d medical profession, surgeons earn more than physicians in US,Britain n other developed countries. Other allied health professionals earn far less than d physicians. The lowest salary is earned by Paediatrician/ psychiatrist ( average of $200,000 per annum) while the highest salary is received by Orthopaedic surgeon/ Neurosurgeon/ Cardiothoraxic Surgeons (average of $550,0000 per annum).

Nurses receive average salary of $90,000 per annum, pharmacist is on average salary of $110,000per annum, Physiotherapist $75,000, Lab scientists receive 75-80,000 per annum.

The salary disparity should be addressed ASAP following the relativity ( or ratio) stated above. Lets encourage d ongoing revolution in the healthcare system to bring the much needed change.

0key: ^^^
Paediatrician, Psychiatrist, Neurosurgeon etc are all specialists. They are not resident doctors. Resident doctors are the ones undergoing training to become consultants(specialists). When they become consultants, the total hours of training is factored into their salary .

Note, the stated salaries of allied health workers are for their most senior staff.

Meanwhile, d relatively must be restored or let the health institutions be privatised. U have to earn according to ur input

phantom: simple as ABC.what do the pharmacists do in our hospitals other than dispense drugs?how is this different from what the road side chemist does? How many of them have advised doctors on drug therapy which they claim they do? Our pharmacists dont research.sickle cell disease is a problem here.have pharmacists gone into research to discover new drugs? All they do is get the formulation from foreign companies and rebrand. Our pharmacists HAVE NOT DONE THEIR JOBS BUT WANT TO START DOING WARD ROUNDS.infact they say they want to JOIN docs in their rounds.why dont they go ahead and do their rounds solo? Funny lot.all you do is dispense drugs BUT you want to earn the same as a surgeon or obstetrician who sleeps in the theatre.laughable!

phantom: simple as ABC.what do the pharmacists do in our hospitals other than dispense drugs?how is this different from what the road side chemist does? How many of them have advised doctors on drug therapy which they claim they do? Our pharmacists dont research.sickle cell disease is a problem here.have pharmacists gone into research to discover new drugs? All they do is get the formulation from foreign companies and rebrand. Our pharmacists HAVE NOT DONE THEIR JOBS BUT WANT TO START DOING WARD ROUNDS.infact they say they want to JOIN docs in their rounds.why dont they go ahead and do their rounds solo? Funny lot.all you do is dispense drugs BUT you want to earn the same as a surgeon or obstetrician who sleeps in the theatre.laughable!

phantom: stop ranting.do not hoodwink gullible nigerians.you do NOTHING MORE THAN DISPENSE DRUGS.qed. when last did you people discover a groundbreaking drug? How is your post different from what i said earlier.you guys take an already existing drug and REBRAND.so changing the taste and improving absorbtion efficiency of AN ALREADY FORMULATED DRUG is research? ..please dont say this outside.