Should Christians be involved in pre-nup and post nup arrangements?

Please this is very important to me right now.

help me out

everyone to his own. For me the answer is no, divorce is not part of a christian's dictionary and what i have my wife will have equal rights to.

why not, there are certain cases for divorce in the bible right

bawomolo:

why not, there are certain cases for divorce in the bible right

1. If a spouse dies, which we cannot necessarily refer to as divorce.

2. If a spouse is unfaithful, the other has the right to end the marriage.

Deuteronomy 24:1

"When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house."

Gamine:

Should Christians be involved in pre-nup and post nup arrangements?

Please this is very important to me right now.

help me out

In my opinion the fact you want a pre-nup and a post-nup arrangement means that your not 100% sure whether the marriage will workout in the first place. So don't bother with it. I guess you must be rich finanacially and don't want to lose out incase the marriage dosen't workout.

A_K_O:

2. If a spouse is unfaithful, the other has the right to end the marriage.

So if it comes to this, wouldnt the pre-nup be useful?

huxley:

Deuteronomy 24:1

"When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house."

a pre-nup is basically a legal version of biblical safeguards just as this. that bitch aint getting half

davidylan*:

. . . divorce is not part of a christian's dictionary . . .

Matthew 5: 32:

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery"

Matthew 19:9:

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery"

Me personally don't think most of the bible was made for modern day christians, maybe Jesus was talking to the Isrealites.
That's one thing that seriously baffles me why the christians decide to hand pick the ones they want to believe in. Anyway you decide who Jesus was talking to as far as your heart is with it then good.

Trust xtians they have scriptures to prove it.

Yes. Merely preparing for dissolution and protecting earthly assets

against the unforseen is insurance,not intent(to Divorce or separate). Pre-nups

are valid and comon sensical in this age of 50% divorce rate.

minute:

Trust xtians they have scriptures to prove it.

Yes. Merely preparing for dissolution and protecting earthly assests

against the unforseen is insurance,not intent(to Divorce of separate). Pre-nups

are valid and comon sensical in this age of 50% divorce rate.

WORD!

If you look at it like wearing a seat belt or a hard hat on a construction site then It is perfectly OK. How the hell am I supposed to know my marriage will work??

minute:

Trust xtians they have scriptures to prove it.

Yes. Merely preparing for dissolution and protecting earthly assests

against the unforseen is insurance,not intent(to Divorce or separate). Pre-nups

are valid and comon sensical in this age of 50% divorce rate.

marital values have been destroyed. Decades ago it was seen as the ultimate expression of love between two souls, today it is merely a business investment that requires insurance cover.

@Huxley

In response to your question.

Here is an answer from you.

Matthew 19:3-9

3 Some Pharisees approached him, and tested him saying "Is it unlawful for any man to divorce his wife for any cause whatever?"
3 He said to them in reply, "Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female'
5 and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate."
7 They said to him, "Then why did Moses command that the man give the woman a bill of divorce and dismiss her?"
8 He said to them, "Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
9 I say to you whoever, divorces his wife, unless the marriage is unlawful and marries another commits adultery.

So originally it was not meant to be that men and women divorce, There wasn't One Adam to plenty of Eves he could choose from, and then when it didn't work out with the first Eve, move on to the next. There was only one Eve, that is the first marriage and God created them to be together and not to try and see if it would work out.

Marriage is not a joke, if you don't think you will be able to handle a marriage then don't get married. Marriage is slowly and surely becoming shacking up, then what's the point of the nuptials?

To understand the above, you have to understand the purpose of Jesus Christ. He came to set things aright. To the way it was supposed to be.
Man and God had a friendship in the beginning until sin came and caused a separation between man and God. Jesus has made it easy for us to reconcile ourselves to God.
He turned man's thinking upside down, that is why he says the first shall be last and the last shall be first. In his Kingdom there is no superiority, there is no big man n campus, we are all equals.

Divorced was never the plan from the beginning, but because man is extremely stubborn and we want things our way it was permitted, until the faithful time when Christ came and turned it all around and set everything on the course it was supposed to be anyway.

The flesh part is also very significant, to make it simple and in lay ma's terms, the spouse is now a part of you, you cannot divorce yourselves.
When people start viewing their spouse as part of them, they will begin to understand marriage and how it's supposed to work.
You are to love yourself and never hurt yourself. Now that your spouse is a part of you, you are not to hurt him/her but to love them.

I hope that helps.

Oh yeah uncleanness is when the woman has had 'partners'

Any normal married human being with assets should have pre nup and post nup arrangements/agreements.

Any normal married human being with assets should have pre nup and post nup arrangements/agreements.

So majority of the world are abnormal?

Gamine,
  why now? 

Jesoul, lol

Dont worry.

I had a huge arguement with a friend and he insists on having the prenup and postnup thingy

i believe as a christian it dosnt make sense, Why should one prepare for divorce

if its on the basis of death, ok. we all know death is certain, but a Divorce??

for Christian people i dont think it should cross one's mind

You are talking about assets n all, its now clear that assets mean more to people than their spouse.


Its like buying a new house incase the current house you are about to live in collapses, instead of fitting

the house with reinforced concrete and things to make it stronger and longlasting.


Marriage is about weathering the storms together, why prepare for divorce from the very beginning?

Whatever happened to Till Death Do us Part??




IT IS WELL

Gamine:

Jesoul, lol

don't worry.

I had a huge arguement with a friend and he insists on having the prenup and postnup thingy

i[b] believe as a christian it dosnt make sense, Why should one prepare for divorce[/b]

if its on the basis of death, ok. we all know death is certain, but a Divorce??

for Christian people i don't think it should cross one's mind

You are talking about assets n all, its now clear that assets mean more to people than their spouse.


Its like buying a new house incase the current house you are about to live in collapses, instead of fitting

the house with reinforced concrete and things to make it stronger and longlasting.


Marriage is about weathering the storms together, why prepare for divorce from the very beginning?

Whatever happened to Till Death Do us Part??



IT IS WELL

oh okay, you scared me for a second . You have answered your post perfectly with the above. Any mature christian will hold to this view, as for the rest, well they're probably the ones contributing to the 50% divorce rate

@Jesoul
So whats wrong with prenuptial agreement from your point of view? No be you talk for another thread that two very close fiends of yours just got divorced?

manmustwac:

@Jesoul
So whats wrong with prenuptial agreement from your point of view? No be you talk for another thread that two very close fiends of yours just got divorced?

  You've been paying attention  .

My brotha my views are based on what we're taught marriage is about in the bible. Like Gamine so eloquently put it why would anyone head into a marriage and at the same time prepare for divorce?    you're already setting yourself up to fail.
Why would one consider keeping their "assets" more important than keeping their spouse? don't u see something very twisted with this logic? Like David said, Marriage is not a business investment that requires insurance. That's why people must shine their eyes and open their minds before they marry a person. No be small decision at all. If you're not sure you trust/love the person why marry them at all?


  Now if the people in question are not christians no biggie, they are free to live as they choose. However the minute they claim to be followers of Christ, we must live as Christ taught. And He taught that marriage is for life except for unfaithfulness. As for my friends . . . no one could be more disappointed in them than me BUT we all fall short n make mistakes and bad decisions and we'll each answer to God.

@Gamine, what are pre-nup and post-nup arrangements?  Forgive my naivety, I don't want to make wrong assumptions.

Jesoul you say that you must live as Christ taught but statistics show that Christians get divorced at the same rate as non christians. You pray to God wtih your christian friends for the marriage to succeed but u guys are getting divorced at the same rate and you guys are religious.

If you dont end up having to use the prenup, what does it matter?

Gamine:

Jesoul, lol

don't worry.

I had a huge arguement with a friend and he insists on having the prenup and postnup thingy

i believe as a christian it dosnt make sense, Why should one prepare for divorce

if its on the basis of death, ok. we all know death is certain, but a Divorce??

for Christian people i don't think it should cross one's mind

You are talking about assets n all, its now clear that assets mean more to people than their spouse.


Its like buying a new house incase the current house you are about to live in collapses, instead of fitting

the house with reinforced concrete and things to make it stronger and longlasting.


Marriage is about weathering the storms together, why prepare for divorce from the very beginning?

Whatever happened to Till Death Do us Part??




IT IS WELL

Very well said Gamine. It's a pity a lot of professing christians don't see it this way.

I wonder what the fruit of the spirit are for if we can't endure somethings in our lives. We always prefer things going in a rosy way. As a matter of fact Christianity is based on cold hard facts not on feelings or on emotions.

agree with the previous post too, omo its till death do us part

netotse:

agree with the previous post too, omo its till death do us part

yes o except if the other person decides to walk away.

@Analytical

I'm sure google would be your best friend by now.

Anyways, a simple definition,

Prenup

is a contract entered into prior to marriage or civil union by the people intending to marry. The content of a prenuptial agreement can vary widely, but commonly includes provisions for division of property and spousal support in the event of divorce or breakup of marriage.

What is a postnup?
As its name implies, it's any written agreement entered into between spouses after they say "I do." Like the prenup, the primary purpose of a postnuptial agreement is to stipulate ownership and division of financial assets in the event a couple divorces.

i don't get why as a christian i should sign up for this.

if I'm missing some keypoint here, someone please let me know.

This whole pondering sparked off when i had a chat with a friend

Christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited amount) of faith. If you prayed to God
to bless your marriage and God gave you the go ahead, then why are you signing a pre nup ?

Christians that have faith believe from the bottom of their hearts that God will provide in time
of need, so the need for a pre nup does not arise.

Again, christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited) amount of faith.

When Donald Trump divorced Ivana Trump, he had to cough out half of his fortune, but he
bounced back and is a billionaire today.

Real christians do not need to sign a pre nup because they have faith that either way, God will
always provide for them.

Christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited amount) of faith. If you prayed to God
to bless your marriage and God gave you the go ahead, then why are you signing a pre nup ?

Christians that have faith believe from the bottom of their hearts that God will provide in time
of need, so the need for a pre nup does not arise.

Again, christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited) amount of faith.

When Donald Trump divorced Ivana Trump, he had to cough out half of his fortune, but he
bounced back and is a billionaire today.

Real christians do not need to sign a pre nup because they have faith that either way, God will
always provide for them.
   

Christain marriages are ending up at a fast rate just as that of non christains and you are here talking about faith? [

@Mazaje.

You dont know what it means to be Christian, why are you commenting here

Gamine:

@Mazaje.

You don't know what it means to be Christian, why are you commenting here

what do you mean that i don't know what it means to be christain? by the way who and what is a christain? whose christianity is the real christainity? is it the catholics, the olumba olumba/white garment wearing christains, is it the mormons, pentacostal christains, orthodox christains, anglicans, lutherian christains, baptist christain? there are more than 30,000 kinds of christainity so which is the real christainity? There is NO Universal christainity. . . .  every body has his/her belief and interpretation of the bible so who are the real christains and what does it mean to be a christain? I know you will say that a christain is some one who follows the bible but then again which is the true bible? there so many different types of bibles. . . the catholics have theirs so do the jehova witness. . .  the ethopain christains have theirs just as the greek orthodox christains have theirs too . . . .  so who is the real christain and what does it take to be one? a catholic fundamentalist will tell you that you are not a christain despite all you assertions. . . .  a jehova witness will tell you that you are lost despite all you claims of being a christain. . . . i know so many christains that will tell you that you are not a christain if you don't attend their church . . .  why is there no universally accepted christainity?