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Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by HAH: 1:39pm On Jul 12, 2014
After deliberations for four months, barring any last minute extension, the National Conference may round off its assignment next week. Weekly Trust takes stock of how the geopolitical zones have accomplished their respective agenda.
From its composition, the North seemed to have gone to the National Conference as a minority though it is the most populous region in the country.But after months of deliberations, horse-trading, lobbying, the North’s numerical disadvantage has really come to the limelight having failed to accomplish any of its several agenda.
Northern delegates went to the conference with the following major agenda in their kitty: 13 percent derivation should be calculated from onshore alone; the onshore/offshore oil dichotomy abolished by the National Assembly be returned; Federal Ministry of Niger Delta, Niger Delta Development Commission (NNDC) and the Presidential Amnesty Programme for Niger Delta ex-militants be scrapped; local governments should remain as the third tier of government; there should be no state police; a special fund for North-east zone; among others.
On the other hand, the major South-south zone’s agenda included the following: total ownership and control of minerals, oil and gas resources by oil-producing states; 50 percent derivation formula; onshore/offshore oil dichotomy should not be reintroduced; local governments should be scrapped; the Federal Ministry of Niger Delta, NNDC, and Amnesty Programme for Niger Delta ex-militants should remain; there should be state police.
The South-west’s agenda included: states should be replaced by six or more geo-political zones as federating units; parliamentary system should replace the presidential system; onshore/offshore oil dichotomy abolished by the National Assembly be returned; 13 percent derivation should be calculated from onshore oil alone; state police force; geo-political zones as federating units should create states and local governments as they deem fit; states should have their constitutions.
The South-east’s interests included: an additional state be created for the zone; presidential system should remain with modifications; states should be allowed to create their police force; local governments should be removed as a tier of government; the presidency should be rotated between the six-geopolitical zones; geo-political zones should not be used as federating units, among others.
But four months after the conference started, the North seemed the worst hit as it barely achieved one or two of its agenda, but other zones have accomplished more than 70 percent of their interests so far, leaving the North as a laughing stock.
To begin with, before the eyes of Northern delegates, the 774 local government areas, majority of which are in the North, were scrapped. While considering the report of the politics and governance committee co-chaired by Prof. Jerry Gana and Chief Olu Falae, the conference adopted what it said was “a true federal structure with the states operating as federating units.”
It also resolved that “creation of local government councils should be done by the states as they deem necessary.”The delegates also agreed that “the states by law provide for the structure, composition, finance and functions of the local government councils.”By this, the conference delisted local governments from the constitution, which is a source of revenue for the northern states, therefore would henceforth, receive no allocation from the Federation Account if this becomes law.
On state police, the North lost out again. The conference adopted the report of the National Security committee headed by retired Inspector General of Police Muhammadu Gambo Jimeta and Chief Albert Horsfall, which says that henceforth, any state desirous of having its police force could establish, fund and control it.
It said the areas of jurisdiction of the federal police would cover the entire country and on clearly spelt out matters and offences while the jurisdiction of the state police would cover the state and operate within the laws enacted by the state assembly.The state police when established, the conference added, are to compliment the efforts of the Nigeria Police Force.
On the other hand, South-south delegates had their way as the confab scrapped local governments, endorsed state police, left Niger Delta ministry, NNDC and amnesty programme intact, but endorsed the abrogation of onshore/offshore dichotomy, and above all, got derivation formula reviewed from 13 to 18 percent.
Meanwhile, the five percent fund to be established for stabilisation, rehabilitation and reconstruction of the North-east in particular and North-west and North-central is still being rejected by the southern delegates. Just like the South-south, the South-east zone got four of the 18 states recommend by the conference and state police, and are happy that local governments are scrapped.
Though the South-west demand for parliamentary system and geo-political zones as federating units didn’t sail through, they have the last laugh as they got state police, state constitution, additional states, and ensured that local governments are scrapped.
Several factors were at play at the conference which led to the ultimate defeat of the North. Its lack of unity was one as the Middle Belt Forum aligned with the southern delegates to ensure matters that are detrimental to its corporate interests such local government scrapping are actualised.
Not only that, ethnicity and religion were key in enabling the onslaught on the North. Most northern delegates who are from minority ethnic nationalities, abandoned the North (they consider as Hausa- Fulani affair) to align with the South in dealing a heavy blow to the North. Religion also played a part as most delegates in religious solidarity, formed an alliance with South-south delegates in taking major decisions.
Party affiliations to a lesser extent played out while the conference was taking decisions. Dozens of delegates, who are prominent party chieftains, and were nominated on the platforms of either the federal or state government decided to remain aloof so as not to attract the wrath of their benefactors.
As it is now, all hope is not lost. The conference’s recommendations, though mostly impracticable, most be accepted by the president and endorsed by the National Assembly.
They are mostly impracticable because many wonder why the president should accept the removal of immunity clause, or allow for the creation of state police or even state constitution and 18 additional states.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/politics/17012-has-the-north-lost-out-at-the-confab

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by HAH: 1:53pm On Jul 12, 2014
The confab was conceived to reduce the perceived advantage the north has over the south, that was why there was lopsided representation, and clearly the promoters are achieving their aim, however I expect the national assembly to throw away the entire reports of the confab when it comes before them as there was no legal backing for the jamboree.

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by redcliff: 1:56pm On Jul 12, 2014
The confab has overlived its relevance. Gbam!

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Ikengawo: 2:05pm On Jul 12, 2014
Was the north in competition with the south at the confab? the problem is when we were all asked to sit down and talk all regions began painting it as some type of competition instead of a discussion. the north declared early they would flat our oppose anything from the south for no real reason other than typical nigerian mentality

how can the north 'lose out' of a discussion? Have every had a conversation with someone and lost a conversation unless you came in to compete (argue)? All sides could easily get exactly what they want but the north didn't propose anything it wanted, it simply opposed everything everyone else wanted.


The real truth is the north is a myth. There's no 'north'. The term was invented because the british didn't have enough motivation to create several colonies with everything north of the Lagos, Eastern and western colonies so it just declared it all as 'north'. It then contacted it's most powerful tribe, the Fulani by proxy of the Hausa, and called them Hausa-Fulani. Then it helped increase that tribes power in the region so it can rule the whole region indirectly.


today ALL of the other tribes have come to their senses and have realized that this arrangement has defrauded deceived and disenfranchised them. They have remembered that they are vastly different from the Hausa and most importantly the Fulani and can no longer allow those two to speak for them and kill them at the same time. the Caliphate is a dead concept and 'the north' went to the confab not realizing that. All of the other groups came and discussed while the caliphate came to argue.

How can the north lose when northern minorities are getting their own states and governing their own destinies for the first time in 100 years? How can the north lose when the middle belt has achieved all it's objectives? are these people no longer northerners? The Fulani oligarchy lost because it must lose for everyone else to move on and only wins when everyone is subjugated, but it's in one small tribe out of the 100s in the north that have won at this confab so how did the north lose?

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by nduchucks: 2:08pm On Jul 12, 2014
HAH: The confab was conceived to reduce the perceived advantage the north has over the south, that was why there was lopsided representation, and clearly the promoters are achieving their aim, however I expect the national assembly to throw away the entire reports of the confab when it comes before as there was no legal backing for the jamboree.

QED

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by vicenteze: 3:51pm On Jul 12, 2014
Ikengawo: Was the north in competition with the south at the confab? the problem is when we were all asked to sit down and talk all regions began painting it as some type of competition instead of a discussion. the north declared early they would flat our oppose anything from the south for no real reason other than typical nigerian mentality

how can the north 'lose out' of a discussion? Have every had a conversation with someone and lost a conversation unless you came in to compete (argue)? All sides could easily get exactly what they want but the north didn't propose anything it wanted, it simply opposed everything everyone else wanted.


The real truth is the north is a myth. There's no 'north'. The term was invented because the british didn't have enough motivation to create several colonies with everything north of the Lagos, Eastern and western colonies so it just declared it all as 'north'. It then contacted it's most powerful tribe, the Fulani by proxy of the Hausa, and called them Hausa-Fulani. Then it helped increase that tribes power in the region so it can rule the whole region indirectly.


today ALL of the other tribes have come to their senses and have realized that this arrangement has defrauded deceived and disenfranchised them. They have remembered that they are vastly different from the Hausa and most importantly the Fulani and can no longer allow those two to speak for them and kill them at the same time. the Caliphate is a dead concept and 'the north' went to the confab not realizing that. All of the other groups came and discussed while the caliphate came to argue.

How can the north lose when northern minorities are getting their own states and governing their own destinies for the first time in 100 years? How can the north lose when the middle belt has achieved all it's objectives? are these people no longer northerners? The Fulani oligarchy lost because it must lose for everyone else to move on and only wins when everyone is subjugated, but it's in one small tribe out of the 100s in the north that have won at this confab so how did the north lose?
gbam , you have said it all

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Naijalady: 4:14pm On Jul 12, 2014
Ikengawo: Was the north in competition with the south at the confab? the problem is when we were all asked to sit down and talk all regions began painting it as some type of competition instead of a discussion. the north declared early they would flat our oppose anything from the south for no real reason other than typical nigerian mentality

how can the north 'lose out' of a discussion? Have every had a conversation with someone and lost a conversation unless you came in to compete (argue)? All sides could easily get exactly what they want but the north didn't propose anything it wanted, it simply opposed everything everyone else wanted.


The real truth is the north is a myth. There's no 'north'. The term was invented because the british didn't have enough motivation to create several colonies with everything north of the Lagos, Eastern and western colonies so it just declared it all as 'north'. It then contacted it's most powerful tribe, the Fulani by proxy of the Hausa, and called them Hausa-Fulani. Then it helped increase that tribes power in the region so it can rule the whole region indirectly.


today ALL of the other tribes have come to their senses and have realized that this arrangement has defrauded deceived and disenfranchised them. They have remembered that they are vastly different from the Hausa and most importantly the Fulani and can no longer allow those two to speak for them and kill them at the same time. the Caliphate is a dead concept and 'the north' went to the confab not realizing that. All of the other groups came and discussed while the caliphate came to argue.

How can the north lose when northern minorities are getting their own states and governing their own destinies for the first time in 100 years? How can the north lose when the middle belt has achieved all it's objectives? are these people no longer northerners? The Fulani oligarchy lost because it must lose for everyone else to move on and only wins when everyone is subjugated, but it's in one small tribe out of the 100s in the north that have won at this confab so how did the north lose?
You ve obviously said it all. I guess other northern minorites who has been choked over the year just realizes they need to start ignoring the "northern mentality" and face up boldly with their future. Nicely work

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Naijalady: 4:17pm On Jul 12, 2014
HAH: The confab was conceived to reduce the perceived advantage the north has over the south, that was why there was lopsided representation, and clearly the promoters are achieving their aim, however I expect the national assembly to throw away the entire reports of the confab when it comes before as there was no legal backing for the jamboree.
am sure the national assembly has the same representation as the confab. So it may not work out the way u r thinking it smiley

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by MeAboki(m): 7:00pm On Jul 12, 2014
banega: northern Nigeria is a shithole,. The Anus of the federation... cheesy cheesy

Fortunately for you its the Holy month of Ramadan, during which patience and forgiveness is advocated; you are therefore warned against such provocative utterances or else you shall get whats coming to you. angry
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jul 12, 2014
MeAboki:

Fortunately for you its the Holy month of Ramadan, during which patience and forgiveness is advocated; you are therefore warned against such provocative utterances or else you shall get whats coming to you. angry
Loolx, painmentt!! OMG Shekau?? Is this yuh?? sad

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by EmeeNaka: 7:16pm On Jul 12, 2014
HAH: The confab was conceived to reduce the perceived advantage the north has over the south, that was why there was lopsided representation, and clearly the promoters are achieving their aim, however I expect the national assembly to throw away the entire reports of the confab when it comes before them as there was no legal backing for the jamboree.
Is there any decision reached that will endanger the north?
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by EmeeNaka: 7:20pm On Jul 12, 2014
Naijalady: am sure the national assembly has the same representation as the confab. So it may not work out the way u r thinking it smiley
dont mind the joker. he thought the NASS members from Middle belt will behave differently from their confab delegates.

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by EmeeNaka: 7:23pm On Jul 12, 2014
MeAboki:

Fortunately for you its the Holy month of Ramadan, during which patience and forgiveness is advocated; you are therefore warned against such provocative utterances or else you shall get whats coming to you. angry
so patience and Forgiveness are only advocated in Islam during Ramadan? No wonder Boko haram has not bombed us for a while now. Islam is a heavy problem to earth.

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jul 12, 2014
EmeeNaka: dont mind the joker. he thought the NASS members from Middle belt will behave differently from their confab delegates.

When Ghana must go starts exchanging hands a lot of them will. The Confab wasn't binding so no one bothered to bribe the delegates but that situation will be entirely different with NASS
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by EmeeNaka: 7:31pm On Jul 12, 2014
tatiana009:

When Ghana must go starts exchanging hands a lot of them will. The Confab wasn't binding so no one bothered to bribe the delegates but that situation will be entirely different with NASS
You mean Core North have patent on Bribing? So,only north can bribe?.

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by oduastates: 7:41pm On Jul 12, 2014
Ikengawo: Was the north in competition with the south at the confab? the problem is when we were all asked to sit down and talk all regions began painting it as some type of competition instead of a discussion. the north declared early they would flat our oppose anything from the south for no real reason other than typical nigerian mentality

how can the north 'lose out' of a discussion? Have every had a conversation with someone and lost a conversation unless you came in to compete (argue)? All sides could easily get exactly what they want but the north didn't propose anything it wanted, it simply opposed everything everyone else wanted.


The real truth is the north is a myth. There's no 'north'. The term was invented because the british didn't have enough motivation to create several colonies with everything north of the Lagos, Eastern and western colonies so it just declared it all as 'north'. It then contacted it's most powerful tribe, the Fulani by proxy of the Hausa, and called them Hausa-Fulani. Then it helped increase that tribes power in the region so it can rule the whole region indirectly.


today ALL of the other tribes have come to their senses and have realized that this arrangement has defrauded deceived and disenfranchised them. They have remembered that they are vastly different from the Hausa and most importantly the Fulani and can no longer allow those two to speak for them and kill them at the same time. the Caliphate is a dead concept and 'the north' went to the confab not realizing that. All of the other groups came and discussed while the caliphate came to argue.

How can the north lose when northern minorities are getting their own states and governing their own destinies for the first time in 100 years? How can the north lose when the middle belt has achieved all it's objectives? are these people no longer northerners? The Fulani oligarchy lost because it must lose for everyone else to move on and only wins when everyone is subjugated, but it's in one small tribe out of the 100s in the north that have won at this confab so how did the north lose?

Hahahahaha.
The minorities realise blah blah blah ..........................
They will hate the caliphate Until the pendulum of power changes back to them and the usual suspects grovel for crumbs from their masters.
Now a proper lesson.
The minorities were not cheated .
They were part and parcel and partakers in the despoliation of their lands.just like the SE and SS .They with their own hands, voted /associated with the same people who came later to molest them.
I won't even bother to list their leaders . I can name 100 middlebelt participants in the pillaging of their own land .many of them , without as much as a village hut in their state.
the north have been speaking in one voice at conference.
For them Fulani vs southern kaduna is a smaller issue when compared to allocation vs derivation.
So spare us the lecture.

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by abu12: 9:18pm On Jul 12, 2014
HAH: The confab was conceived to reduce the perceived advantage the north has over the south, that was why there was lopsided representation, and clearly the promoters are achieving their aim, however I expect the national assembly to throw away the entire reports of the confab when it comes before them as there was no legal backing for the jamboree.

Well said oga, let them proposed anything they want in that conference, since most of the important issue are going to national assembly no problem, they are only ranting with the useless conference. No shaking
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by cjrane: 9:27pm On Jul 12, 2014
It must be noted that this country is in its last days. Our northern brothers continue to either misjudge the mood of others to continuous enslavement by the north or they have classically decided they didn't care. Either way, the attempt of the Op to post silly remarks about other regions expose the grave danger that continues to threaten the peaceful existence of Nigeria.

If the British in the height of their power, could not deny independence to Nigeria which was just under 50 million semi-illiterate Africans in 1960, the north should continue to delude itself that it can hold Nigeria together when its constituent parts decide it will be better for them to leave than be subjected to continuous slavery.
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by SamIkenna: 10:04pm On Jul 12, 2014
cjrane: It must be noted that this country is in its last days. Our northern brothers continue to either misjudge the mood of others to continuous enslavement by the north or they have classically decided they didn't care. Either way, the attempt of the Op to post silly remarks about other regions expose the grave danger that continues to threaten the peaceful existence of Nigeria.

If the British in the height of their power, could not deny independence to Nigeria which was just under 50 million semi-illiterate Africans in 1960, the north should continue to delude itself that it can hold Nigeria together when its constituent parts decide it will be better for them to leave than be subjected to continuous slavery.

Nigeria is ready to go. The two things that still give many abused peoples of Nigeria a flicker of hope are the ongoing confab and GEJ's return in 2015. Not that folks believe GEJ will pull down heaven in his second term but the implication of his return is that he'll keep power away from the Junaids and Bugajes and, consequently, snap the irresponsible born-to-rule mentality out of the Arewas. The second one is the hope that the ongoing confab will correct some of the 50+ years anomaly in our system. However, it seems the Arewas and their hacks are misreading the times and underestimating how much yoke they're to our system. They do not see how much people in our regions can't wait to shake them off. At any rate, if they believe national assembly will kill any ray of hope, freedom, or distance we get from them during the course of this conference then they must be slow upstairs.

We've waited many years to correct some of the lopsidedness. All these years we've heard Jaw Jaw and compromise was better than Biafra's secession but they forgot that before the outbreak of the civil war Nigerians talked in Aburi. Today we're talking in Abuja, yet the same people who claimed to love peace and dialogue are pulling all manner of tricks to derail it. Somehow I wished they'ld succeed in derailing the conference so that all Nigerian peoples would see the kind of future we have together as a one Nigeria. Our people say when the gods want to kill a dog they first make it mad. Time has come for Arewas to check their heads.
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Onlytruth(m): 11:01pm On Jul 12, 2014
Ikengawo: Was the north in competition with the south at the confab? the problem is when we were all asked to sit down and talk all regions began painting it as some type of competition instead of a discussion. the north declared early they would flat our oppose anything from the south for no real reason other than typical nigerian mentality

how can the north 'lose out' of a discussion? Have every had a conversation with someone and lost a conversation unless you came in to compete (argue)? All sides could easily get exactly what they want but the north didn't propose anything it wanted, it simply opposed everything everyone else wanted.


The real truth is the north is a myth. There's no 'north'. The term was invented because the british didn't have enough motivation to create several colonies with everything north of the Lagos, Eastern and western colonies so it just declared it all as 'north'. It then contacted it's most powerful tribe, the Fulani by proxy of the Hausa, and called them Hausa-Fulani. Then it helped increase that tribes power in the region so it can rule the whole region indirectly.


today ALL of the other tribes have come to their senses and have realized that this arrangement has defrauded deceived and disenfranchised them. They have remembered that they are vastly different from the Hausa and most importantly the Fulani and can no longer allow those two to speak for them and kill them at the same time. the Caliphate is a dead concept and 'the north' went to the confab not realizing that. All of the other groups came and discussed while the caliphate came to argue.

How can the north lose when northern minorities are getting their own states and governing their own destinies for the first time in 100 years? How can the north lose when the middle belt has achieved all it's objectives? are these people no longer northerners? The Fulani oligarchy lost because it must lose for everyone else to move on and only wins when everyone is subjugated, but it's in one small tribe out of the 100s in the north that have won at this confab so how did the north lose?

Nwanne this your post is a CLASSIC meant to be saved for prosterity.
Dalu for an INGENIOUS comment. cool

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by MeAboki(m): 1:44am On Jul 13, 2014
banega: Loolx, painmentt!! OMG Shekau?? Is this yuh?? sad

Its obvious that you and your ilk have perfected provocation into an art; its therefore no wonder that many of you so often find yourselves at the sharp ends of Aboki knives, yet you still have the audacity to wonder why.
Please do not push your luck; take my advice, move on while you still can - peace. sad
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by MeAboki(m): 1:56am On Jul 13, 2014
EmeeNaka: so patience and Forgiveness are only advocated in Islam during Ramadan? No wonder Boko haram has not bombed us for a while now. Islam is a heavy problem to earth.

Why would they waste their bombs on ignoramuses and bigots when apparently you have already been cursed - isn't that punishment enough?
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 2:10am On Jul 13, 2014
Once Islam was introduced to the north, it lost out forever till eternity.
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Ikengawo: 2:38am On Jul 13, 2014
oduastates:

Hahahahaha.
The minorities realise blah blah blah ..........................
They will hate the caliphate Until the pendulum of power changes back to them and the usual suspects grovel for crumbs from their masters.
Now a proper lesson.
The minorities were not cheated .
They were part and parcel and partakers in the despoliation of their lands.just like the SE and SS .They with their own hands, voted /associated with the same people who came later to molest them.
I won't even bother to list their leaders . I can name 100 middlebelt participants in the pillaging of their own land .many of them , without as much as a village hut in their state.
the north have been speaking in one voice at conference.
For them Fulani vs southern kaduna is a smaller issue when compared to allocation vs derivation.
So spare us the lecture.

You're right, Middle Belters have been a huge aid in disenfranchising the whole of Nigeria, their own region in particular. The mentality blows my mind but nobody can say middle belters feel the same way about the north as they did in the 80s and 90s.

Omabatse is a militant group in that region that has been ousting fulani attacks from Platue and I believe Benue. Jonah Jang has been aggressively pushing the Hausa/Fulani out of his state where they're are in all reality invaders. I don't believe Jang is alone in this reversal of attitudes. The north has even gone as far as killing minority governors and christian governors of middle belt states and replacing them with their Fulani vice governors, it's no longer a mutual relationship between the two.

People should realize that the reason the fulanis ran to APC was because GEJ showed he had no regards for their 'power' by siding with Jonah Jang. This is why it was so important for them to have Amaechi as the NGF head. Jonathan showed that he's loyal to him and Tukur and the Fulani realized he wasn't going to play along with their designs. Once you realize Jang has been at the forefront of a war against them, you will realize what's really going on in politics.

While I don't believe the south should be waiting for the middle belt as an ally, but they're looking out to control their own interests as opposed to aligning them with the north because you can't be stupid for 100 years even if you try. This requires fighting the north head to head which I firmly believe there is an unspoken war between the two regions

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 6:43am On Jul 13, 2014
MeAboki:

Its obvious that you and your ilk have perfected provocation into an art; its therefore no wonder that many of you so often find yourselves at the sharp ends of Aboki knives , yet you still have the audacity to wonder why.
Please do not push your luck; take my advice, move on while you still can - peace. sad
Heyy, you know your comment would have made a bit of sense, if you hadn't typed the bolded statement!! Keep this in mind though!! Blood begets blood!! No one has a monopoly of violence,. Let me tell this, nobody can intimidate me on here!! There are so many things that just happen in northern Nigeria that people just allow.. Now if a group of people say they are prepared to go to war,. Won't you expect us to respond to that naturally? But by time we start responding, people will turn around and say, “ you are heating up the polity”; it is difficult for me to comprehend; my only response to what you have said for now is that I want to assume that you're mentally deranged,.. Your not fit psychologically!! Let's leave it at that!! Violence is not preserve of one person, anybody can be violent and we don't advocate that.. Good Morning!!

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Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 6:46am On Jul 13, 2014
Confab
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 7:10am On Jul 13, 2014
abu12:

Well said oga, let them proposed anything they want in that conference, since most of the important issue are going to national assembly no problem, they are only ranting with the useless conference. No shaking
disgusting n shameless parasite..when are u guys gonna get ur arsses busy,huh? Must u tapeworms depend on others for survival forever? Its such a shame to be in one country with parasites like u who are a burden to everybody..
#split naija now
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Eldavido1: 7:34am On Jul 13, 2014
oduastates:

Hahahahaha.
The minorities realise blah blah blah ..........................
They will hate the caliphate Until the pendulum of power changes back to them and the usual suspects grovel for crumbs from their masters.
Now a proper lesson.
The minorities were not cheated .
They were part and parcel and partakers in the despoliation of their lands.just like the SE and SS .They with their own hands, voted /associated with the same people who came later to molest them.
I won't even bother to list their leaders . I can name 100 middlebelt participants in the pillaging of their own land .many of them , without as much as a village hut in their state.
the north have been speaking in one voice at conference.
For them Fulani vs southern kaduna is a smaller issue when compared to allocation vs derivation.
So spare us the lecture.

You have no idea about the deep-sitted hatered between the middle belters and the core northern Muslim. The very reason why Jonathan will win southern kaduna is not cause of any laudable achievement in the region, but simply an exercise to spit the core northern Muslims. I was so shock with the level of support ordinary uneducated people in the region have for him the last time i was home even with the daily killing of our people by the hausa/fulani mercenaries. What is playing out at the National conference is just a reflection of what is on ground. There is no song coming out of the libs of everyone in southern kaduna other than Gurara state. We await our emancipation!
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by MeAboki(m): 4:49pm On Jul 13, 2014
banega: Heyy, you know your comment would have made a bit of sense, if you hadn't typed the bolded statement!! Keep this in mind though!! Blood begets blood!! No one has a monopoly of violence,. Let me tell this, nobody can intimidate me on here!! There are so many things that just happen in northern Nigeria that people just allow.. Now if a group of people say they are prepared to go to war,. Won't you expect us to respond to that naturally? But by time we start responding, people will turn around and say, “ you are heating up the polity”; it is difficult for me to comprehend; my only response to what you have said for now is that I want to assume that you're mentally deranged,.. Your not fit psychologically!! Let's leave it at that!! Violence is not preserve of one person, anybody can be violent and we don't advocate that.. Good Morning!!

Not surprised you couldn't understand, considering a low IQ person like yourself - apparently still struggling with ordinary diploma.
Its also typical of your type to feign ignorance after provocation.

Of course no one has a monopoly over violence and similarly neither should anyone have monopoly on provocation.

Unfortunately, if you weren't so dumb you would have noticed that I wasn't threatening you with violence (oh my bad, apparently comprehension is not one of your strong points).
In fact, if you had cared to think you would realized that it was practically an impossible feat to accomplish here in the internet - though I don't suppose you ever think before you type.

Needless to say, it should have been obvious (to even an slowpoke like you) that my reference to the Aboki knives was a mere illustration of the consequence of such provocation - a trait which you and your ilk seemed to have developed here in NL and in real life.

It should also be evident here as it had been in so many other threads that you have developed a penchant for insulting northerners (and Muslims) with the above demeaning rhetoric without any provocation - whatsoever.

With such bad character, its no wonder that your tribe is the least liked in the whole country, because everywhere you settle you instinctively have to insult your hosts - never minding how they would feel or react because you always seem to enjoy playing the role of victims of such retaliation and endless whining.

Its about time you guys address this problem of insults; because unfortunately it has so far not won you any friends as everywhere you go, whether within or outside Nigeria, be it Kano, Lagos; South Africa, Europe or Asia; you ppl (with few exceptions) usually end up constituting to nuisances and being hated for it along with your criminality - often languishing in most of the world prisons/death rows.

In the meantime, my advice to you is to spend more time working on your studies and less on hate; rather than coming here insulting ppl without provocation - maybe in time you may achieve your no.1 ambition, a common diploma, and maybe also you may have developed the required intelligence to have understood all that I have said - foolish girl angry
Re: Has The North Lost Out At The Confab ? by Nobody: 7:48am On Jul 14, 2014
MeAboki:

Not surprised you couldn't understand, considering a low IQ person like yourself - apparently still struggling with ordinary diploma.
Its also typical of your type to feign ignorance after provocation.

Of course no one has a monopoly over violence and similarly neither should anyone have monopoly on provocation.

Unfortunately, if you weren't so dumb you would have noticed that I wasn't threatening you with violence (oh my bad, apparently comprehension is not one of your strong points).
In fact, if you had cared to think you would realized that it was practically an impossible feat to accomplish here in the internet - though I don't suppose you ever think before you type.

Needless to say, it should have been obvious (to even an slowpoke like you) that my reference to the Aboki knives was a mere illustration of the consequence of such provocation - a trait which you and your ilk seemed to have developed here in NL and in real life.

It should also be evident here as it had been in so many other threads that you have developed a penchant for insulting northerners (and Muslims) with the above demeaning rhetoric without any provocation - whatsoever.

With such bad character, its no wonder that your tribe is the least liked in the whole country, because everywhere you settle you instinctively have to insult your hosts - never minding how they would feel or react because you always seem to enjoy playing the role of victims of such retaliation and endless whining.

Its about time you guys address this problem of insults; because unfortunately it has so far not won you any friends as everywhere you go, whether within or outside Nigeria, be it Kano, Lagos; South Africa, Europe or Asia; you ppl (with few exceptions) usually end up constituting to nuisances and being hated for it along with your criminality - often languishing in most of the world prisons/death rows.

In the meantime, my advice to you is to spend more time working on your studies and less on hate; rather than coming here insulting ppl without provocation - maybe in time you may achieve your no.1 ambition, a common diploma, and maybe also you may have developed the required intelligence to have understood all that I have said - foolish girl angry
Lool, Aboki!! Aren't you fasting?? undecided

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