nduchucks:

People like you tempt us to call you dummies, empty heads, or Igbos, but I will respectfully decline the temptation. I'd simply state that you and many others on this thread are products of a failed educational system which did not adequately expose you to your history.

I don't have time to educate you people but ponder the following:


(1)It is in the record that, it was the farmers in the North that produced the groundnuts and resources that supplemented the various budgets of the West and East up till 1970.

(2)Groundnuts, cotton, cocoa, hides and skins, were the principal export crops in the 1960s and early 1970s.

(3)Nigeria was the world's largest exporter of groundnuts in the early 1970s

Though I understand that research could not possibly be your forté , I'd recommend that you use google for preliminary research and educate yourself before coming here to embarass yourself.

In case that is too difficult for you, at lease read this report from U.S. Library of Congress

EmeeNaka: i am from Nnewi in Anambra state. I am an Igbo man.

eGuerrilla:

Comrade nduchucks,

You make sense a lot of the time but on the odd occasion you peddle vaunting assertions which have no basis in reality.
If you want to taken seriously on this issue, please provide something more substantive than a U.S. Library of Congress article - which gives no figures to back up your claims here...

tonyzaks:
Am still not gettin it.
"When they" who are they?. Certain things are involved here; 'discovery' bt before that there must be exploration, who explor? The states?
'Foreigners' don't see states bt country which govern (regulates) the statesm
Pls shade more lights on these
Thanks for the responce

nduchucks:

Greetings to you, long time to hear.

I'd assume that you'd agree with me that Groundnuts, cotton, cocoa, palm products hides and skins, were the principal export crops in the 1960s and early 1970s. If that were the case, then if follows that farmers in the North who produced the groundnuts and other crops mentioned, significantly contributed to national income, which in turn supplemented various budgets in the Eastern, Western, and Northern regions.

No one is claming that these budgets were solely financed by the said principal export crops of the 60s and 70s.

Many of us simply find it difficult to admit historical facts because of our biases.

atlwireles:

This reality has not dawned on some of them yet. Just reading the comments of Anthony Sani on punch, one can see his capitulation already.

eGuerrilla:

Comrade nduchucks,

You make sense a lot of the time but on the odd occasion you peddle vaunting assertions which have no basis in reality.
If you want to taken seriously on this issue, please provide something more substantive than a U.S. Library of Congress article - which gives no figures to back up your claims here...

Regional governments derived much of their development finances from agriculture. Between 1954 and 1957 N144 million or 42 percent of the marketing boards’ surplus were disbursed as grants to regional governments, and another N24 million as loans to regional governments.

Between 1962 and 1966 13 to 34 percent of regional government finances depended on marketing boards surpluses (Adubi, 2000). In terms of export earnings, agricultural exports accounted for 86 percent of total exports in 1955-59, 80 percent in 1960-64 and 57 percent in 1965-69.

Part of the decline in 1965 -69 may have been due to disruptions in production caused by the civil war of 1967-70. However, from 1970 the decline became very dramatic, and this coincided with the prominence of petroleum as the country’s main export commodity.

Source: CBN (1993) Perspective of Economic Policy in Nigeria, Annual Report and Statement of Accounts..

lygn19:
Most oil wells re discovered by d locals, nd they inform there state govt, who reports to the fg abt there finding.

lygn19:
Most oil wells re discovered by d locals, nd they inform there state govt, who reports to the fg abt there finding.

Antivirus92: hey mr igbo man, where in nnewi and which local govt are u from?

nduchucks:

With the understanding that you are a very intellectually honest poster, I took some time to dig up some facts to support my claims.



Please read the rest of the paper, there are quite a few others and time will not permit me to dig them up. My claim was not a frivilous one.

C0llynzO2:
You are only proving those who opposed your assertions right. The article clearly said regional governments derived a large chunk of their finances from Agriculture.
The north depended on it s groundnut and cotton to an extent
The east depended on Palm oil of which Nigeria was the highest exporter at that time.
The west depended on cocoa and palm oil to an extent.
What is Presently known as Niger Delta depended on Rubber, palm oil and cocoa to an extent.
Stop living in delusion.
Trying to twist glaring facts can only work with your uneducated almajiri brothers.

C0llynzO2:
You are only proving those who opposed your assertions right. The article clearly said regional governments derived a large chunk of their finances from Agriculture.
The north depended on it s groundnut and cotton to an extent
The east depended on Palm oil of which Nigeria was the highest exporter at that time.
The west depended on cocoa and palm oil to an extent.
What is Presently known as Niger Delta depended on Rubber, palm oil and cocoa to an extent.
Stop living in delusion.
Trying to twist glaring facts can only work with your uneducated almajiri brothers.

atlwireles:

He assumes agriculture was only a northern occupation. The people in south, stayed home and married 10 wives as his people planted and harvested groundnut. Unfortunately, this is the predominant view in the far north.

C0llynzO2:
Such distortion of facts can only work for his Almajiri brothers.
How can someone be so brazenly foolish as to post an article that contradicts everything he said as ''proof'' that he is right.
That article also said Nigeria's Agricultural output dropped significantly during the war. How did that happen since the north was largely unaffected by the war and they were supposedly the only ones involved in agriculture?

nduchucks:

I most certainly can't resolve your language comprehension here.

SamIkenna:

I feel sorry for core north. For any sane walking breathing individual or group of individuals to bank on the indivisibility and complete subjugation of a geographical space inhabited by people as diverse, unyielding, and ethno-nationalistic as Nigerians, we really need to feel sorry for such entity.

Throwing up lies, even if they were true, won't save you. We're pretty done with the intransigence, belligerence, greed, jihadism, born-to-rule, and terror of the core north. I remember writing a piece before the inception of the confab in which I stated that GEJ should return our boys from North East theater and cut the core north lose. Some so-called southerners thought it was harsh. Well, after getting a sneak-peak of core northern mentality from this conference, I wonder if those fellas' still shared their old views. I guess folks can now see that the people we consider fellow citizens want to be paid for terrorizing us.

EmeeNaka: Do i need your clearance to be an Nnewi man? Do i need your knowledge to be from Nnewi? You are from Oraukwu and therefore,you are not suppose to challenge me.
By the way,my Fiancee is from Amaeze.

EmeeNaka: Do i need your clearance to be an Nnewi man? Do i need your knowledge to be from Nnewi? You are from Oraukwu and therefore,you are not suppose to challenge me.
By the way,my Fiancee is from Amaeze.

nduchucks:

This biafra that you guys could not obtain through war will not come to pass by wishful thinking and riding the coat tails of GEJ who is from a Ijaw tribe which will never allow you to make them subservient in your Biafra.

Stop this obsession and delusion. Stop worrying and feeling sorry for the 'North'. More of your people live in the North than in your land - they need your pity. Dalu o

nduchucks: ^^^^^ Delusions of grandeur

SamIkenna:

ndu Nwanne m, Oga eme gi vam n'anya.

On a lighter note, how is the Ramadan going for you?

nduchucks:

No love lost buddy, ramadan kareem to you.

We need to learn to be Nigerians and work together against any common enemy. Tha vast majority of the poor and average Nigerians have been victimized enough.

SamIkenna:

Asking for terror check is not victimization in my dictionary. But hey, to each his own.

nduchucks:

My disappointment with many of the elite, hopefully you excluded, is that they believe that the Boko Haram problem is a "North" problem and they even jubiliate at the terrorist acts perpetrated against fellow Nigerians simply because the same terror is not directly felt in their homeland.

Nigeria is at war, yet some are happy that the BH affair will bring down the "North". Terrorism perpetrated against any nigerian should never be a happy affair.

Just read through this thread and watch the posters gloating about terrorism potentially consuming and destroying the "evil North". What a sad state of affairs

EmeeNaka: if you are to questioned on this sentiment,you will not be able to clear yourself with a valid argument.

nduchucks:

Greetings to you, long time to hear.

I'd assume that you'd agree with me that Groundnuts, cotton, cocoa, palm products hides and skins, were the principal export crops in the 1960s and early 1970s. If that were the case, then it follows that farmers in the North who produced the groundnuts and other crops mentioned, significantly contributed to national income, which in turn supplemented various budgets in the Eastern, Western, and Northern regions.

No one is claming that these budgets were solely financed by the said principal export crops of the 60s and 70s.

Many of us simply find it difficult to admit historical facts because of our biases.

EmeeNaka: Nigeria can not be handed in to greedy people. Resource control is impossible in Nigeria. 13percent derivation is far too much for Niger delta to develop.

nduchucks:

Very simplistic. The locals simply use juju to discover oil and inform their state governments, no exploration, no research by Geologists, Geophysicists, or Petroleum Engineers.

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