acenazt: Stoooo Peeeeed OP. How on earth will you compare zidane and messi? SMH Zidane Single Handedly Destroyed one of The Best Brazilian side I have Known to Qualify his Nation for the World Cup Final. And even at the Final he was a thorn in Italy's flesh until Materazzi found a way to Mess things up for one of the Greatest Footballers in history. Messi Just don't deserve that golden ball Rodriguez did far more better.

scribe2000:

Silly comment. Very! !
Pundits are only waiting for Mess to win the world cup before they elevate him to the elite level occupied by Pele and Maradona, and you are here talking about Zidane.
And Apart from those 6 goals, what else did Rodriguez do? Your hate won't let you acknowledge the obvious!

scribe2000:

Silly comment. Very! !
Pundits are only waiting for Mess to win the world cup before they elevate him to the elite level occupied by Pele and Maradona, and you are here talking about Zidane.
And Apart from those 6 goals, what else did Rodriguez do? Your hate won't let you acknowledge the obvious!

scribe2000: Please look at the picture below and tell me why Messi doesn't deserve the golden ball. Zidane and Forlan did much less. Yet no one complained.

jaytee01: Take cold water, bros. You are the only one displaying hate here. Why did you not show your measurement parameters for all the examples listed before proceeding to conclude that Messi did enough to win the award. There is no need to be insolent here. Even Messi's compatriot, Maradona , a football great, has said that he did not deserve the award. Most people on the planet believe so too. Just hold your peace and let it pass.

scribe2000:

Silly comment.
Pundits are only waiting for Mess to win the world cup before they elevate him to the elite level occupied by Pele and Maradona, and you are here talking about Zidane.
And Apart from those 6 goals, what else did Rodriguez do? Your hate won't let you acknowledge the obvious!

scribe2000:

Silly comment. Very! !
Pundits are only waiting for Mess to win the world cup before they elevate him to the elite level occupied by Pele and Maradona, and you are here talking about Zidane.
And Apart from those 6 goals, what else did Rodriguez do? Your hate won't let you acknowledge the obvious!

thegoodjoehunt: It is not most goals Forlan and Rodriguez did. There was magic in their goals. Forlan's goals were jaw dropping. Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuPb0Q-8cZc

James Rodriguez was the most amazing player at the World Cup. Watch his goals here and tell me Messi was better even after playing two extra games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLex5Xnr9ds

Note James Rodriguez was not only the highest goal scorer. He had two assists and Three man of the match performances.

timbros: Why are you showing OP all those clips? I gave him a homework and here you are giving him all the expos.
Let him do the research and come back here and correct that rubbish he posted above.

thegoodjoehunt: It is not most goals Forlan and Rodriguez did. There was magic in their goals. Forlan's goals were jaw dropping. Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuPb0Q-8cZc
James Rodriguez was the most amazing player at the World Cup. Watch his goals here and tell me Messi was better even after playing two extra games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLex5Xnr9ds
Note James Rodriguez was not only the highest goal scorer. He had two assists and Three man of the match performances.

thegoodjoehunt: Watch these and comment if Messi's World Cup performances in 2014 World Cup can be compared to Zidane in 2006.
Zidane vs Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPCMgDPu70
Zidane vs Portugal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7BYZrIpFL0
Zidane vs Brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNxDze0Ggag

thegoodjoehunt: Are you minding this funny people. I guess he did not watch Zidane in 2006 World Cup, if not he would not post this nonsense. Zidane killed a Brazilian side that were the defending Champions and had Super talents that make you wonder how Brazil could have all those kind of players in one team.

Ronaldo Da Lima, Kaka, Robinho, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Gilberto Silva, Roberto Carlos, Ze Roberto, Cicinho, Juan etc

Zidane destroyed them. Zidane personally destroyed the young up and coming Tiki Taka side of Spain. His amazing display against Portugal with Figo and co. was classic. These were knock out games. Games Messi disappeared and flopped in.

scribe2000:

I give up on all of you guys. You are now comparing Zidane to Messi?
When Messi is being compared to Pele and Maradona, you guys are dragging Zidane into it, with funny clips to back up things. Funny!
Has anyone ever heard of the same guys in the same sentence with Zidane? Zidane belongs to the rest of the "good footballers", but not to that exclusive group of Maradona, Pele, and maybe (WHEN he wins the world cup), MESSI.


For now, I give up on you guys. No need continuing this argument. Hate Messi all you can...He remains the best thing that happened to football in the past 25 years!

And yes, he still has his golden ball from a world cup...and a well deserved one at that!!! Haters can go and...

And hey, he is not done yet, Expect more laurels to come his way. Just watch and see.

I'm off this argument. Enjoy your hatred on the little genius guys...

timbros:

@bolded:

One question. Just one question for you.

What did Maradona (a member of that exclusive group) say about Messi winning the golden ball?

If you can't answer that, go and hide your face in shame.

scribe2000:

First tell me what Maradona has to say about Pele, or what Pele himself has said about Maradona. Nothing very complimentary. Truth is, members of that club don't love one another and would like no one else to join. It's human nature, and Maradona's comments on Messi simply reflect this. But the rest of world know the truth.

timbros:

Chai, sorry.

Thats all I can say.

If you, for a nano second, think your view in any football issue is valid than Maradona's, all I can tell you is sorry.

scribe2000:

The sorry should be for yourself my dear, for failing to look beyond your hatred on a gifted footballer and instead dwelling on pure denial.

Argentina icon Diego Maradona feels Lionel Messi did not deserve to win the Golden Ball following his performances at the World Cup.

The Barcelona star beat the likes of Thomas Muller, Arjen Robben and James Rodriguez to the prestigious individual award after scoring four goals in seven performances at this summer's tournament and guiding his team to the final, yet Maradona feels the 27-year-old only won it for commercial reasons.

"Messi? I would give him heaven if possible," Maradona said during his show on Telesur.

"But it's not right when someone wins something that he shouldn't have won just because of some marketing plan."

Maradona then went on to voice his disappointment with Argentina's 1-0 defeat in Sunday's final against Germany following Mario Gotze's goal in extra-time.

"I feel sorry for my country. Mario Gotze's goal really hurt. There's a huge sadness in my heart that we lost the final.

"All things put together, I think Argentina deserved at least penalties. That Germany won was the result of a misunderstanding in the Argentine defence."

The 1986 World Cup winner also had his say on Alejandro Sabella's decision to replace Ezequiel Lavezzi with Sergio Aguero at half-time and argued that the Argentina boss got things wrong.

"I don't understand the substitution of Lavezzi. He was phenomenal down the wing. Kun Aguero didn't have the same impact. It was not his tournament."

scribe2000:

I give up on all of you guys. You are now comparing Zidane to Messi?
When Messi is being compared to Pele and Maradona, you guys are dragging Zidane into it, with funny clips to back up things. Funny!
Has anyone ever heard of the same guys in the same sentence with Zidane? Zidane belongs to the rest of the "good footballers", but not to that exclusive group of Maradona, Pele, and maybe (WHEN he wins the world cup), MESSI.

For now, I give up on you guys. No need continuing this argument. Hate Messi all you can...He remains the best thing that happened to football in the past 25 years!

And yes, he still has his golden ball from a world cup...and a well deserved one at that!!! Haters can go and...

And hey, he is not done yet, Expect more laurels to come his way. Just watch and see.

I'm off this argument. Enjoy your hatred on the little genius guys...

scribe2000:

First tell me what Maradona has to say about Pele, or what Pele himself has said about Maradona. Nothing very complimentary. Truth is, members of that club don't love one another and would like no one else to join. It's human nature, and Maradona's comments on Messi simply reflect this. But the rest of world know the truth.

thegoodjoehunt: Messi was fortunate to play with Barca when their mid fielders operated at a level of invincibility. Look at the International performance of his team mates, Two Euros and a World Cup.

Messi never performed at his club level on international grounds.

We are not comparing Zidane and Messi. We are comparing Zidane's World Cup performance in 2006 to Messi's World Cup performance in 2014.

You posted the meme above. That was not about Zidane and Medal's career. Messi did not operate on his Barca's peak level. Messi was not even as good as James Rodriguez or ROBben at the last World Cup.

Zidane was Magical in 2006. Messi was not.

thegoodjoehunt: First of all, Maradona is Messi's number one fan. He was screaming how great Messi will become in 2005. Maradona came himself to support Messi in that final game against Nigeria.

So do not think Maradona criticised the Golden ball because he hates Messi. That is a lie.

Also many people criticising the Golden ball award do not hate Messi. Messi is the most loved footballer on the planet. People are just against the way he was wrongly given an award. There was no need for that. Without a World Cup or a Golden ball from the World cup, Messi name would have still been great. The Golden ball to Messi was wrong.

timbros:

Hatred? Sorry, how old are you?

So because I don't agree with you means I hate Messi? OK do you hate Muller or Robben? Because I think any of them should have taken the golden ball. Now if you disagree with me, then you have hatred for them.


This is Maradona's interview below, in case you haven't read it. If you think he is the sentimental type, pay close attention to the bolded part at the ending part of the article...



Remember that Aguero is his inlaw. If Maradona is sentimental, he will never make this comment.

Maradona says things exactly the way it is.

scribe2000:

Most people criticizing Messi's award only judge by focusing on one aspect. Putting Rodriguez as a deserving winner is only because he scored the most goals. He already has an award for that. But the golden ball is not for the highest scorer! Messi was the most rounded player in the WC.

And Maradona's comments were only his opinion. I believe he is the greatest player of all time (better than Pele), but he is not the greatest Match Analyst of all time. His views are purely that, His, and should not be quoted as an Authoritative one.
And he does not hate Messi, he only hates the idea of someone matching his own achievements, and unfortunately, Messi poses that threat.

Hope you rest now buddy. I've got other things to do...

scribe2000:

Most people criticizing Messi's award only judge by focusing on one aspect. Putting Rodriguez as a deserving winner is only because he scored the most goals. He already has an award for that. But the golden ball is not for the highest scorer! Messi was the most rounded player in the WC.

And Maradona's comments were only his opinion. I believe he is the greatest player of all time (better than Pele), but he is not the greatest Match Analyst of all time. His views are purely that, His, and should not be quoted as an Authoritative one.
And he does not hate Messi, he only hates the idea of someone matching his own achievements, and unfortunately, Messi poses that threat.

Hope you rest now buddy. I've got other things to do...

scribe2000:

Most people criticizing Messi's award only judge by focusing on one aspect. Putting Rodriguez as a deserving winner is only because he scored the most goals. He already has an award for that. But the golden ball is not for the highest scorer! Messi was the most rounded player in the WC.

And Maradona's comments were only his opinion. I believe he is the greatest player of all time (better than Pele), but he is not the greatest Match Analyst of all time. His views are purely that, His, and should not be quoted as an Authoritative one.
And he does not hate Messi, he only hates the idea of someone matching his own achievements, and unfortunately, Messi poses that threat.

Hope you rest now buddy. I've got other things to do...

thegoodjoehunt: Maradona loves Messi and always called Messi the best. He even wants Messi at Bayern with Guardiola so that he can continue breaking records.
So do not think Maradona is for a second jealous of Messi.

thegoodjoehunt: [b]Was Messi the most rounded player? That meme of yours, picked stats that favored Messi. For instance, Messi did not have the highest amount of through passes in that World Cup and then the meme puts the most accurate though pass. What of Mascherano who had high tackles, interception and recovered balls?
Messi was not the creative players with he most tackles. Oscar was. Now they say the attacker with the most tackles. An attacker should be rated by the goals and assists he create, not tackles.
Messi did not have the most crosses in the World Cup, ROBben had the most crosses. So they say most chance created. Which was hyped up by Mess I taken lots of corners.
Don't you see fraud written all over this Golden ball of Messi?
Do it the usual away, select the most outstanding and breath taking player of the World Cup. Leave all this round about tricks. If they go the normal route, it would never have been Messi.
Why must the pattern of things be changed to favor Messi. Before, in a World Cup year, Either the Golden ball winner or a key member of the winning World Cup side takes the World Player of the year. Because of Messi, it was changed so he can win back to back world best titles.
Now brilliant mind blowing performance always wins the world cup. Because of Messi, we are having the most rounded player in different stats. I do not buy their fraud. Not even Messi's number one fan buys it.[/b]

thegoodjoehunt: [b]Was Messi the most rounded player? That meme of yours, picked stats that favored Messi. For instance, Messi did not have the highest amount of through passes in that World Cup and then the meme puts the most accurate though pass. What of Mascherano who had high tackles, interception and recovered balls?

Messi was not the creative players with he most tackles. Oscar was. Now they say the attacker with the most tackles. An attacker should be rated by the goals and assists he create, not tackles.

Messi did not have the most crosses in the World Cup, ROBben had the most crosses. So they say most chance created. Which was hyped up by Mess I taken lots of corners.


Don't you see fraud written all over this Golden ball of Messi?

Do it the usual away, select the most outstanding and breath taking player of the World Cup. Leave all this round about tricks. If they go the normal route, it would never have been Messi.

Why must the pattern of things be changed to favor Messi. Before, in a World Cup year, Either the Golden ball winner or a key member of the winning World Cup side takes the World Player of the year. Because of Messi, it was changed so he can win back to back world best titles.

Now brilliant mind blowing performance always wins the world cup. Because of Messi, we are having the most rounded player in different stats. I do not buy their fraud. Not even Messi's number one fan buys it.[/b]

scribe2000:

You are bent on propagating this hate-fuelled argument. Okay. Please let's call it a day. Messi has his award...for life.
I'm outta here, and this time, its final.
So long...