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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by searay(m): 6:03am On Jul 27, 2014
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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by nursemyke: 6:36am On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: He also said " “Occasionally, the non-medical professionals are referred to as paramedics or allied medical workers or allied health professionals. That’s basically the structure; that’s how the hospital operates."

But according to online sources on paramedics "The paramedic is a healthcare professional who works in emergency medical situations. A paramedic may be more formally defined as a medical professional who provides medical care to sustain life in the pre-hospital environment, usually in an emergency, at the point of illness or injury" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramedic
So how come pharmacists, nurses, lab scientists, physiotherapists are paramedics?
Or are Nigerian Drs having problems understanding the English language? According to your link, it says "Allied health professions are health care professions distinct from nursing, medicine, and pharmacy", so how come nursing and pharmacy are classified as allied health professionals by Nigerian Drs?

Again obembe said, "“The structure of the health sector can simply be illustrated as having doctors and non-doctors; or you can say medical and non-medical workers. You can also refer to the non-medical personnel as allied health workers."

We can as well categorize health sector workers as Nurses and non-nurses, or Pharmacists and non-pharmacists, or Drs and non-Drs etc

thank you enlightening obembe and his cohorts. help ask them again if dentistry is medical or non-medical. they in NMA are just delusional, greedy and morals. why would physicians ascribe to themselves what belongs to all.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by heykims(m): 6:47am On Jul 27, 2014
sogodihno: I av to disagree on one point sir: Medical is not restricted to doctors, because if it's restricted to doctors, den d word "medical doctor" will b tautology. Tanks
No, u got it wrong, d word 'medical' here is an adjective to differentiate MBBS holders from PhD holders.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by creekman(m): 6:57am On Jul 27, 2014
My on take on this is, if govt wants to ban NMA or JOHESU, dey shld remember to also ban ASUU,NLC,etc. ...

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Samgreguc(m): 7:01am On Jul 27, 2014
heykims:
No, u got it wrong, d word 'medical' here is an adjective to differentiate MBBS holders from PhD holders.
stop decieving urself. The world medical aint restricted to Physicians alone.
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I think you should google the history of Physicians.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by enomakos(m): 7:02am On Jul 27, 2014
killers
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by godsI(m): 7:04am On Jul 27, 2014
I second the move, if you give one opportunity of freedom and he begings to misuse it, you should equally destroy that freedom. Abacha threatened it when ASSU messed up and they(ASSU) behaved themselves, Goodluck can. Anyone who opposed should be impeached!:@
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 7:05am On Jul 27, 2014
ASSU - NO WORK, NO PAY

NMA - NO WORK,, NO PAY.

FG SHOULD GIVE THEM THEIR DEMANDS. LABOURER DESERVES HIS WAGES.


#FOOLISH PRESIDENT EVER RULETH - GEJ

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by pendusky(m): 7:06am On Jul 27, 2014
omicron: So JOHESU is already warming up for a strike of their own? No comment, till then.

The Federal government got itself into this 'chaos', when it kept playing politics with the healthcare sector instead of equipping the hospitals to make them world-class and curbing the alarming rate of medical quackery, which has dragged the medical practice in Nigeria to where it is now, at the detriment of the common man.

Doctors will be ever-ready for any thing the government will do in order to save the health sector from all who now see the hospital as students' politics arena.

...doctors will ''always protect the traditions of the Medical Profession by ALL MEANS...'' as stated in the Oath, and in the best Interest of our sole reason for their existence - The Patient.


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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by wordcat(m): 7:08am On Jul 27, 2014
musaak: it is used that way to distinguish doctors that that treat medical ailment from other doctors such as academic doctors in the university with phd degree.

Medical doctor remains a tautology if the word "medical" is restricted to doctors alone.

BTW what happens to Medical Lab Scientists? grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 7:12am On Jul 27, 2014
The president should ban them and privatize public hospitals while rolling out HMOs that are trustworthy.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by philips70(m): 7:12am On Jul 27, 2014
jideolubiyi: Miffed by recurring industrial actions in the health sector, the Federal Government may be considering the options of either proscribing the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) and the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU) or privatizing all public health institutions.

A senior government official, Wednesday, in Abuja told The Nigerian Times that President Goodluck Jonathan is presently being advised on what to do in the situation, as the Federal Government is caught in the middle of the inter-union rivalry between the NMA and JOHESU that leaves many Nigerians without health care as often as they go on strike.

The NMA embarked on an indefinite strike action since July 1st, demanding among 24 things the payment of N13 billion wage demands for 2014, reserving the position of Chief Medical director to only medical doctors, appointment of Surgeon General of the Federation, passage of National Health Bill, providing security for doctors, increase in duty hazard and specialist allowances, as well as budget for residency training programme, reintegration of its members into the IPPIS platform, and reserving the title of consultants to only medical doctors.

The government officer revealed to The Nigerian Times that while government is negotiating with the medical doctors to return to work immediately and agreeing on many of the terms, JOHESU has written to the Ministry of Health of its plan to embark on another strike action in the event that government concedes to the demands of the doctors.

He said: “We cannot continue like this. NMA today, JOHESU tomorrow, and it has become a cat and mouse game. No responsible government will allow its employees hold it to ransom especially in a peculiar case like this..................

Very true. Unfortunately, sir, the government which you serve is not responsible. Very unfortunate.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by wordcat(m): 7:14am On Jul 27, 2014
500GP: ASSU - NO WORK, NO PAY

NMA - NO WORK,, NO PAY.

FG SHOULD GIVE THEM THEIR DEMANDS. LABOURER DESERVES HIS WAGES.


#FOOLISH PRESIDENT EVER RULETH - GEJ

The foolish one here is you. Did you read their demands at all?
Do you the implication of granting that their useless demands?

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 7:32am On Jul 27, 2014
wordcat:

The foolish one here is you. Did you read their demands at all?
Do you the implication of granting that their useless demands?

SHUT UP.

DURING ASSU STRIKE, THE USELESS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UTTERED THAT NO WORK, NO PAY.

THE SAME STATEMENT IS UTTERED AGAIN.

THEIR DEMAND IS MEANINGFUL, GOVERNMENT SHOULD GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by godsI(m): 7:33am On Jul 27, 2014
I have a simple advice to our magnificient GEJ, they are as follows: All serving doctors shall henceforth cease to own any private hospitals. Those who already have will cease to work for govt. Every health implement purchased by the govt must bear a medical company indelible mark. Any govt owned implements found in any private hospital(with the help of the mark) will incure life imprisonment. The entire executive members of NMA should be sacked, starting from their president, and their emolument shall not be paid ever(as deserters). Our dear president, in his wisdom, knows how to work under the surface and patiently too to bring it all to completion. Long live GEJ, long live this great strategist, long live Nigeria!

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 7:33am On Jul 27, 2014
wordcat:

The foolish one here is you. Did you read their demands at all?
Do you the implication of granting that their useless demands?


The NMA embarked on an indefinite strike action
since July 1st, demanding among 24 things the
payment of N13 billion wage demands for 2014,
reserving the position of Chief Medical director
to only medical doctors, appointment of Surgeon
General of the Federation, passage of National
Health Bill, providing security for doctors,
increase in duty hazard and specialist
allowances, as well as budget for residency
training programme, reintegration of its members
into the IPPIS platform, and reserving the title of
consultants to only medical doctors.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by wordcat(m): 7:42am On Jul 27, 2014
500GP:

SHUT UP.

DURING ASSU STRIKE, THE USELESS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UTTERED THAT NO WORK, NO PAY.

THE SAME STATEMENT IS UTTERED AGAIN.

THEIR DEMAND IS MEANINGFUL, GOVERNMENT SHOULD GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

KEEP TALKING.

and your little sense didn't tell you that JOHESU will also go on strike demanding the opposite of what your govt granted to d NMA

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by ogawisdom(m): 7:43am On Jul 27, 2014
Jonathan shld take some lessons frm fashiola on hw to humble the oversized ego of these physician. They ve kidnapped this country already n asking for outrageous random Declare their strike illegal, Sack those unwilling to resume work n employ new ones angry

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Nobody: 7:47am On Jul 27, 2014
wordcat:

KEEP TALKING.

and your little sense didn't tell you that JOHESU will also go on strike demanding the opposite of what your govt granted to d NMA

Please desist from paying the unlettered guy any heed. He easily gives himself away as the most unintelligent poster on this forum.
He is known as 5.0 I.Q in the pol section and jerks off anytime intelligent people quote him.

Pls quote him no more before he dies of exhaustion from... grin

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by lakamua: 7:50am On Jul 27, 2014
sogodihno: I av to disagree on one point sir: Medical is not restricted to doctors, because if it's restricted to doctors, den d word "medical doctor" will b tautology. Tanks
hahaha. u dey form wiseman and u just embarrased ursef. medical is restricted to d doctors in question. what we have is many kinda of doctors e.g witch doctor,academic doctors etc. so medical tells us the kind of doctor
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by wordcat(m): 7:52am On Jul 27, 2014
grin grin cheesy cheesy grin grin cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

dozzybaba:

Please desist from paying the unlettered guy any heed. He is easily gives himself away as the most unintelligent poster on this forum.
He is known as 5.0 I.Q in the pol section and jerks off anytime intelligent people quote him.

Pls quote him no more before he dies of exhaustion from... grin
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by blesszzy(m): 7:54am On Jul 27, 2014
any where the FG uses "TO", it means its never going 2 happen.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by skabber2: 8:00am On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.
No mind him.... the guy na native doctor!
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by 500GP: 8:02am On Jul 27, 2014
wordcat:

KEEP TALKING.

and your little sense didn't tell you that JOHESU will also go on strike demanding the opposite of what your govt granted to d NMA

IS IT BAD JOHESU DEMANDING FOR THEIR OWN DEMANDS ALSO ?

TELL YOUR MASTER TO GOVERN WELL
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Zeus777: 8:08am On Jul 27, 2014
Samgreguc:
stop decieving urself. The world medical aint restricted to Physicians alone.
.
I think you should google the history of Physicians.
Thesaurus Legend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Noun 1. medical profession - the body of individuals who are qualified to practice medicine
medical community
health profession - the body of individuals whose work helps to maintain the health of their clients

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by michealade(m): 8:15am On Jul 27, 2014
phantom: then they should also get ready to proscribe NBA and NSE..... bunchajokers
abi now...daft government
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by olagamalin(m): 8:15am On Jul 27, 2014
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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Tbamo(m): 8:43am On Jul 27, 2014
sogodihno: I av to disagree on one point sir: Medical is not restricted to doctors, because if it's restricted to doctors, den d word "medical doctor" will b tautology. Tanks
It's not tautology. An engineer can receive the title doctor if he has a PhD.
The term medical is added to distinguish from the phd.
Don't whip up sentiments.
The NMA chairman's definitions are correct.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by Tbamo(m): 8:50am On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.
His definitions are covered within the hospitals. Are there any other lab scientists working in the hospitals apart from MLS? No.

But within the hospitals staff are divided into medical and allied medical staff
Medical staff are the doctors
Allied medical staff are nurses,pharmacist,physiotherapists etc
Non medical staff are the cleaners,accountants,gatemen etc
What we have in nigeria is a conglomerate of both allied and non medical staff for a superiority fight with the medical staff in a hospital.

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by unmask: 8:51am On Jul 27, 2014
They said girls are missing, he said it's a lie.......they said the universities were bad., he said it was opposition. ......he said he knows who boko haram is, we are yet to deal with them.......they said doctors are on strike. ....he is saying the unions should be canceled


How did we get to this point? 180 million people and we couldn't get someone that was fit enough

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Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by SkyRider1(m): 8:55am On Jul 27, 2014
FG should ban doctors working in govt hospitals from working in private clinics, these guys kill patients faster than diseases they tend to cure.
Re: FG To Ban NMA, JOHESU Over Incessant Strikes by iiiyyyk(m): 8:57am On Jul 27, 2014
prettyprettywow: He also said " “Occasionally, the non-medical professionals are referred to as paramedics or allied medical workers or allied health professionals. That’s basically the structure; that’s how the hospital operates."

But according to online sources on paramedics "The paramedic is a healthcare professional who works in emergency medical situations. A paramedic may be more formally defined as a medical professional who provides medical care to sustain life in the pre-hospital environment, usually in an emergency, at the point of illness or injury" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramedic
So how come pharmacists, nurses, lab scientists, physiotherapists are paramedics?
Or are Nigerian Drs having problems understanding the English language? According to your link, it says "Allied health professions are health care professions distinct from nursing, medicine, and pharmacy", so how come nursing and pharmacy are classified as allied health professionals by Nigerian Drs?

Again obembe said, "“The structure of the health sector can simply be illustrated as having doctors and non-doctors; or you can say medical and non-medical workers. You can also refer to the non-medical personnel as allied health workers."

We can as well categorize health sector workers as Nurses and non-nurses, or Pharmacists and non-pharmacists, or Drs and non-Drs etc


Pls educate obembe
Thay guy sounds more like a NUISANCE.
NMA, NMA, NMA, how many times did I call u. u are about to sink like the titinic

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