The law of karma simply defined according to Wikipedia refers to a principle of causality where intents and actions of an individual influence the future of that individual.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

While I do not set out to dismiss or endorse the law, I intend to present three posers for thought and discourse.

1. If future actions of an individual are influenced by his previous actions, what influenced the individuals first action?

2. What is the basis for expressing sympathy for anyone? Using the abducted girls as an example, it can be argued using the law of karma that the girls are suffering from the consequences of previous actions. So, what's the need to show pity or compassion?

3. What's the basis of condemning an action. Using Shekau as an example, it can equally be argued using the law of karma that Shekau will eventually suffer the consequences of his actions. So, why bother condemn him?

Your thoughts please.

Karma is a religious attempt to explain the randomness of events in this Universe.

The thing is, good and bad things happen to everybody. No god/law needed, just plain "luck".

qstar: Karma is a religious attempt to explain the randomness of events in this Universe.

The thing is, good and bad things happen to everybody. No god/law needed, just plain "luck".

I seem to agree with you. The law appears to either be overrated by its proponents or non-existent.

Nemesis

rationalmind:

I seem to agree with you. The law appears to either be overrated by its proponents or non-existent.

The law is useless. Human beings always wish there's a way we can control/govern/influence the "luck" factor. Hence, the God/Karma concept!

Dubby6: Nemesis

Do you accept it as real?

If you do, what are your thoughts on the posers in the Op

rationalmind: The law of karma simply defined according to Wikipedia refers to a principle of causality where intents and actions of an individual influence the future of that individual.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

While I do not set out to dismiss or endorse the law, I intend to present three posers for thought and discourse.

1. If future actions of an individual are influenced by his previous actions, what influenced the individuals first action?

2. What is the basis for expressing sympathy for anyone? Using the abducted girls as an example, it can be argued using the law of karma that the girls are suffering from the consequences of previous actions. So, what's the need to show pity or compassion?

3. What's the basis of condemning an action. Using Shekau as an example, it can equally be argued using the law of karma that Shekau will eventually suffer the consequences of his actions. So, why bother condemn him?

Your thoughts please.

Nice posers. . . .

@rationalmind, The opposite question to your number 1 question would be:

®The endless loop of Karma. Karma preaches "Justice", but this "justice" must be incomplete.
e.g. If Elijah beheaded 400 humans(prophets of Baal), he'd have to reincarnate to get beheaded in order to pay for his atrocities. Whoever kills him, then needs another person to kill him too and so goes the balderdash.

Who's gonna kill the last person? why? and who's gonna kill him(the killer)?

mazaje:

Nice posers. . . .

Thanks

qstar: @rationalmind, The opposite question to your number 1 question would be:

®The endless loop of Karma. Karma preaches "Justice", but this "justice" must be incomplete.
e.g. If Elijah beheaded 400 humans(prophets of Baal), he'd have to reincarnate to get beheaded in order to pay for his atrocities. Whoever kills him, then needs another person to kill him too and so goes the balderdash.

Who's gonna kill the last person? why? and who's gonna kill him(the killer)?

Very Brilliant observation. The law seems to pose many questions than it answers.

Let's be patient and hope one of its proponents comes across this thread.

He/she might have a way of answering these endless questions

rationalmind:

Very Brilliant observation. The law seems to pose many questions than it answers.

Let's be patient and hope one of its proponents comes across this thread.

He/she might have a way of answering these endless questions
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Do they ever answer anything?. . All they do is just dance around issues and that's all. . .

I have argued over this wit friends. I don't believe karma exists. Humans just want it to exist because of their false sense of natural order of things.
If karmer exists then we are all guilty of every and deserve all bad things that happen to us.
If karma exists not what is the pay back for being good? Why do babies go through pain? Do they deserev it?
I think what people call karma is just their 'self fullfilled prophesy' playing on them

Every good man has an enemy praying for law of karma to get him anf every bad man has a friend praying for goodwill to follow him. Now whose prayer will karma answe?

qstar: Karma is a religious attempt to explain the randomness of events in this Universe.

The thing is, good and bad things happen to everybody. No god/law needed, just plain "luck".

Karma doesn't strike me as "religious"
It's rather cultural - although this would revolve around all things that make up that civilization: spirituality, tradition, language etc.

There's always a law governing every aspect of the universe...even "luck" works with laws

mazaje:

Do they ever answer anything?. . All they do is just dance around issues and that's all. . .

Anony appears to be the ring leader. The dude is good. He has a very good way of avoiding answering questions. You've got to give it to him.

qstar: @rationalmind, The opposite question to your number 1 question would be:

®The endless loop of Karma. Karma preaches "Justice", but this "justice" must be incomplete.
e.g. If Elijah beheaded 400 humans(prophets of Baal), he'd have to reincarnate to get beheaded in order to pay for his atrocities. Whoever kills him, then needs another person to kill him too and so goes the balderdash.

Who's gonna kill the last person? why? and who's gonna kill him(the killer)?

Lol with this kind of talk you would soon say the judge that sentenced a criminal to death would be also be killed for that action

frank317: I have argued over this wit friends. I don't believe karma exists. Humans just want it to exist because of their false sense of natural order of things.
If karmer exists then we are all guilty of every and deserve all bad things that happen to us.
If karma exists not what is the pay back for being good? Why do babies go through pain? Do they deserev it?
I think what people call karma is just their 'self fullfilled prophesy' playing on them

Every good man has an enemy praying for law of karma to get him and every bad man has a friend praying for goodwill to follow him. Now whose prayer will karma answer?

karma isn't supposed to be dependent on prayers or wishes. Isn't it supposed to be bound to happen?

macof:

Karma doesn't strike me as "religious"
It's rather cultural - although this would revolve around all things that make up that civilization: spirituality, tradition, language etc.

There's always a law governing every aspect of the universe...even "luck" works with laws

Isn't this law that governs the universe supposed to be orderly?

If it is, how can luck work with that law since luck by definition is random?

The Law of Karma does not mean that we just sit idle. Do as your conscience dictates you.

If you want good Karma, do as per say. and vice versa..

rationalmind:

Isn't this law that governs the universe supposed to be orderly?

If it is, how can luck work with that law since luck by definition is random?

Here's my thought...
The conscious state of the universe isn't "intelligent" like the human brain, it may not plan or make thorough thoughts but it forces things to happen within itself.
Nothing happens outside this "law" because everything is a piece in the whole that makes up the law
Little pieces coming together on their own to fit your purpose would be luck