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In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by aninibinladen1(m): 4:55pm On Jul 31, 2014
War is coming whether we like it or not, Nigeria will not go apart peacefully. All the actors (regions) will want to annex the others in order to solidify their claims to nationhood, what will determine the outcome of the war lies on how the core middle belt states will align (since they wouldn't be able to form their nation due to their different historical backgrounds. Note that this region is the only area that borders all the other regions.

NIGER: geographically in north-western Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically the state is predominantly made up of nupe, gbagyi, hausa and some smaller tribes, Niger state will naturally align with the north, infact calling Niger a middle belt state is something that doesn't go down well with a good number of the indigenes (aside the likes of jerry gana). Niger will fight and defend the north.

KWARA: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically the state is made up of Yoruba, bariba, hausa, nupe and Fulani. Unless there is an alliance or an understanding between the west and north, kwara will be a boiling point. While a good percentage of the state may lean towards the west, the north will not let it go (especially the northern elite who will see it as throwing away what their forefathers won). whether kwara aligns or not it will not count, it will be a captured state either by the north or the west, whereas the west will try to regain it's kit and kin, the north will push (even further) to capture more ground in the west.

PLATEAU: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of berom, ganang, rukuba, chawai, afizere, anaguta, Fulani, angas, gomai, jukun, tarok etc. Plateau will erupt! due to it's proximity to the other regions, the question of aligning is ruled out, long after the war there will still be war in plateau. The north will go after Plateau as it's first captured ground, but the people will fight back. As the war will progress, plateau's only hope will hang on the scenario where the middle-belt's single largest ethnic group (the Tivs) will try to forge a nation of their own. Due to their small numbers, the people of plateau as a means to an end, will strongly encourage the benue groups to go all out alone, else the state will in due time fall to the north.

SOUTHERN KADUNA: geographically, partly in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central. ethnically made up of ham, bajju, atyap, gwong, gbagyi, nizod, akulu, numana etc. The same scenario that will play out in plateau state will play out here.

KOGI: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of igala, okun, igbira, oworo, bassa, nupe, gwari, kakanda, ogori etc. a part of kogi will align with the west while another part will seek ties with the east. ultimately, majority of kogi will observe the direction the benue group takes. kogi will be a battle ground as the north will push in from niger/kwara axis and try to gain ground in the other regions and like kwara, kogi will be balkanized in the absence of the benue group seeking a nation.

BENUE: geographically in south eastern Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of tiv, idoma, igede, etulo, agatu. Benue's situation is a bit tricky, there are strong chances they will align with the east and there is a likelihood they will go it alone. The north due to proximity will not immediately look towards benue and the east will not waste resources and man-power starting a war with benue. Plateau, Nasarawa and to an extent kogi and parts of taraba will hope for a strong alliance to come out from benue. At the beginning of the war, benue will relatively be non active, they will watch the situation and in the end will either choose to go it alone or align with the east.

NASARAWA: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north central, ethnically made up of eggon, alajo,agatu, baribari, gade, Fulani, afo, akye etc. The fate of most parts of Nasarawa lies in what happens in Plateau while the remaining will naturally align with their kit and kin in Benue.

TARABA: geographically in east central Nigeria but geo-politically in north east, ethnically made up of mumuye, jukun, Fulani,jango, kuteb chamba etc. A few local governments will automatically align with the north while a good part of Taraba will immediately be overrun by the same north, Benue (the tivs) will take advantage and annex the parts of taraba they have always claimed to be theirs. the jukuns will give the north a run for their money but will in the end be subdued as they will have to contend with north on one front and the tivs on the other front. However, if there is a Benue/middle belt alliance (with the tivs and jukuns on one side, 60% of taraba will go to the alliance.

In the end, the north will surely have an upper hand (this doesn't mean they will win the war).

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Descartes: 5:00pm On Jul 31, 2014
These are permutations which do not reflect the real time grin

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by adioolayi(m): 5:06pm On Jul 31, 2014
Just wanna commend the Op for enlighten me on some ethnic groups we have in Nigeria.......As for the war...no no no...Nigeria will stand in unity against all odds. Nigeria will win terrorism, corruption, kidnapping and the likes

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by akumada1: 5:20pm On Jul 31, 2014
We in benue will align with the east.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by aninibinladen1(m): 5:21pm On Jul 31, 2014
Descartes: These are permutations which do not reflect the real time grin

Without sentiments, those permutations more than reflect what will happen if things go apart.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jul 31, 2014
Ah luv this thread:, following grin .
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Balkan(m): 5:34pm On Jul 31, 2014
You permutation might not be wrong
majority of those tribes would not want anything to do with
the North because of Boko haram. while the east will not want them too
because of their boko haram tendencies. Wahala for them.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by kmariko: 5:35pm On Jul 31, 2014
@Op About this war you are so enthused about ....who will declare this war and against whom.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jul 31, 2014
adioolayi: Just wanna commend the Op for enlighten me on some ethnic groups we have in Nigeria.......As for the war...no no no...Nigeria will stand in unity against all odds. Nigeria will win terrorism, corruption, kidnapping and the likes

Nigeria will stand all right, its just a matter of kicking fedora hat wearing cartoon character man out.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by saintneo(m): 5:40pm On Jul 31, 2014
Hmmm......alliances......nna we no want fight again


but in any case we(Igbo people) will defend ourselves against the enemy, alliance or no alliance

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Vado(m): 5:41pm On Jul 31, 2014
Nice thread op.
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by IGBOSON1: 5:43pm On Jul 31, 2014
akumada1: We in benue will align with the east.

^^^You're welcome Bros! Though i think it's pertinent to point out that the country to emerge from the East will be a secular country with a strong Christian leaning and founded on Christian principles! Just for avoidance of doubt!

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by aninibinladen1(m): 5:45pm On Jul 31, 2014
kmariko: @Op About this war you are so enthused about ....who will declare this war and against whom.

I SAID "IN THE EVENT"

Besides the BOKO HARAM thing is pointing more and more to chaos.
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Descartes: 5:45pm On Jul 31, 2014
Yea
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Descartes: 5:45pm On Jul 31, 2014
IGBOSON1:

^^^You're welcome Bros! Though i think it's pertinent to point out that the country to emerge from the East will be a secular country with a strong Christian leaning and founded on Christian principles! Just for avoidance of doubt!
Gbam!! cool

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Energito11: 5:48pm On Jul 31, 2014
1= If given a chance idoma and igala will align with Igbos due to their close culture but the problem is that,many of us still regard them as hausa.
2nd= Nigeria can break up without war bcus everybody is tired of this con3 even the North,what we need is who will take the lead,we igbos cant take the lead not because of past war but because of our investments in other regions.
Yroubas cant take the lead becus they are afraid of past war which i know that can will not happen if they want to break up.the only people that will break up these con3 is Niger Deltans and if them do others will follow.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nnewi1stSon: 5:56pm On Jul 31, 2014
Energito11: 1= If given a chance idoma and igala will align with Igbos due to their close culture but the problem is that,many of us still regard them as hausa.
2nd= Nigeria can break up without war bcus everybody is tired of this con3 even the North,what we need is who will take the lead,we igbos cant take the lead not because of past war but because of our investments in other regions.
Yroubas cant take the lead becus they are afraid of past war which i know that can will not happen if they want to break up.the only people that will break up these con3 is Niger Deltans and if them do others will follow.
QED!
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Uchwilliam(m): 5:58pm On Jul 31, 2014
If war breaks out wht the southern parts need is aggressive attack nd i cn evn overrun d north
Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jul 31, 2014
Energito11: 1= If given a chance idoma and igala will align with Igbos due to their close culture but the problem is that,many of us still regard them as hausa.
2nd= Nigeria can break up without war bcus everybody is tired of this con3 even the North,what we need is who will take the lead,we igbos cant take the lead not because of past war but because of our investments in other regions.
Yroubas cant take the lead becus they are afraid of past war which i know that can will not happen if they want to break up.the only people that will break up these con3 is Niger Deltans and if them do others will follow.

The same Igalas fighting the Igbos over oil? In the face of war, Idomas will not easily align with the Igbos. Much will really depend on the direction the Tivs take.

Kogi and Kwara = true battle grounds

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by AkinEgba: 6:07pm On Jul 31, 2014
In the event of a war, every ethnic group should stay on their own. Having others with a different outlook in life (language, religion, politics, culture, way of life, entrepreneurship, love for education and travel, etc) from yours would be viewed as intolerance and domination. The outcome is hate and consequently betrayal.

Keep in mind, if Nigeria separates by war, there will be a lot of guerilla activities coming from the boarder areas, with the North being the most likely aggressor. Hausa/Fulani will fight to take back any portion of the current North that goes SW or SE. So to maintain peace at the Igbo frontiers, non-Igbos should not be included in your Igbo country. You have enough from SE and Delta and Rivers (the Igbos in these States, of course).

On the other hand, the so-called Hausa/Fulani may self implode, as in fact The Fulani have subjugated the Hausa for centuries and a break-up of Nigeria may well provide the roadmap for Hausa freedom from fulani.

If the ''Hausa-Fulani'' arrangement remains intact, the Yoruba will fight wars of attrition with the Fulani-Hausa for the soul of Kogi and Kwara, but the Nupe and other northern groups will align with the Fulani and Hausa to send the Yoruba packing.

The North will attack the south from Cross River to enable them gain access to the sea. With such an act, Igbos may be drawn into a war with the North because one of the first things Igbos may likely do is to establish economic co-operations with their neighbours to the East (Akwa Ibom/Cross River) for the same reason of access to the sea - if access is not guaranteed from the Port Harcourt axis.

Urhobo and Itsekiri will fight as well, with likely Yoruba support for the latter. With such intervention, the Urhobos will give Yoruba incessant guerilla warfare.

Ijaw will dominate the Niger Delta but will not have an easy existence due to attacks from other groups in the region.

Nigeria and its people better decide what's good for them.

If Igbos and Yorubas stay out of non-Igbo and non-Yoruba affairs respectively, they will, independently, be the most peaceful and most successful in the long run.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by spikesC(m): 6:09pm On Jul 31, 2014
Energito11: 1= If given a chance idoma and igala will align with Igbos due to their close culture but the problem is that,many of us still regard them as hausa.
2nd= Nigeria can break up without war bcus everybody is tired of this con3 even the North,what we need is who will take the lead,we igbos cant take the lead not because of past war but because of our investments in other regions.
Yroubas cant take the lead becus they are afraid of past war which i know that can will not happen if they want to break up.the only people that will break up these con3 is Niger Deltans and if them do others will follow.

If the Niger Deltans initiate it, it might go awry as the elites would try to bring them back because of their oil.
For me, the Yorubas are in a better position to break the country in a peaceful way.
But then, we'll have to wait for eternity embarassed

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 6:12pm On Jul 31, 2014
@OP

Tivs alone do not have the man power to reinforce Northern minority groups that would be at war against Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri-Co invasion.

Sooner or later

And alliance will be formed between the MBs Igbos Nigerdeltans etc to prevent Arewas from overrunning the MB.

Reason why Igbos will overlook at the past.

1) For security reasons, we will like to see a strong MB as a buffer zone btw us and the Arewas.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Firmjudge(m): 6:13pm On Jul 31, 2014
aninibinladen1: War is coming whether we like it or not, Nigeria will not go apart peacefully. All the actors (regions) will want to annex the others in order to solidify their claims to nationhood, what will determine the outcome of the war lies on how the core middle belt states will align (since they wouldn't be able to form their nation due to their different historical backgrounds. Note that this region is the only area that borders all the other regions.

NIGER: geographically in north-western Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically the state is predominantly made up of nupe, gbagyi, hausa and some smaller tribes, Niger state will naturally align with the north, infact calling Niger a middle belt state is something that doesn't go down well with a good number of the indigenes (aside the likes of jerry gana). Niger will fight and defend the north.

KWARA: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically the state is made up of Yoruba, bariba, hausa, nupe and Fulani. Unless there is an alliance or an understanding between the west and north, kwara will be a boiling point. While a good percentage of the state may lean towards the west, the north will not let it go (especially the northern elite who will see it as throwing away what their forefathers won). whether kwara aligns or not it will not count, it will be a captured state either by the north or the west, whereas the west will try to regain it's kit and kin, the north will push (even further) to capture more ground in the west.

PLATEAU: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of berom, ganang, rukuba, chawai, afizere, anaguta, Fulani, angas, gomai,jukun, its Jukum[/b]tarok etc. Plateau will erupt! due to it's proximity to the other regions, the question of aligning is ruled out, long after the war there will still be war in plateau. The north will go after Plateau as it's first captured ground, but the people will fight back. As the war will progress, plateau's only hope will hang on the scenario where the middle-belt's single largest ethnic group (the Tivs) will try to forge a nation of their own. Due to their small numbers, the people of plateau as a means to an end, will strongly encourage the benue groups to go all out alone, else the state will in due time fall to the north.

SOUTHERN KADUNA: geographically, partly in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central. ethnically made up of ham, bajju, atyap, gwong, gbagyi,nizod, akulu, Ninzom and ekulu numana etc. The same scenario that will play out in plateau state will play out here.

KOGI: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of igala, okun, igbira, oworo, bassa, nupe, gwari, kakanda, ogori etc. a part of kogi will align with the west while another part will seek ties with the east. ultimately, majority of kogi will observe the direction the benue group takes. kogi will be a battle ground as the north will push in from niger/kwara axis and try to gain ground in the other regions and like kwara, kogi will be balkanized in the absence of the benue group seeking a nation.

BENUE: geographically in south eastern Nigeria but geo-politically in north-central, ethnically made up of tiv, idoma, igede, etulo, agatu. Benue's situation is a bit tricky, there are strong chances they will align with the east and there is a likelihood they will go it alone. The north due to proximity will not immediately look towards benue and the east will not waste resources and man-power starting a war with benue. Plateau, Nasarawa and to an extent kogi and parts of taraba will hope for a strong alliance to come out from benue. At the beginning of the war, benue will relatively be non active, they will watch the situation and in the end will either choose to go it alone or align with the east.

NASARAWA: geographically in central Nigeria but geo-politically in north central, ethnically made up of eggon, alajo,agatu, baribari, gade, Fulani, afo, Aho akye etc. The fate of most parts of Nasarawa lies in what happens in Plateau while the remaining will naturally align with their kit and kin in Benue.

TARABA: geographically in east central Nigeria but geo-politically in north east, ethnically made up of mumuye, jukun, Fulani,jango, kuteb chamba etc. A few local governments will automatically align with the north while a good part of Taraba will immediately be overrun by the same north, Benue (the tivs) will take advantage and annex the parts of taraba they have always claimed to be theirs. the jukuns will give the north a run for their money but will in the end be subdued as they will have to contend with north on one front and the tivs on the other front. However, if there is a Benue/middle belt alliance (with the tivs and jukuns on one side, 60% of taraba will go to the alliance.

In the end, the north will surely have an upper hand (this doesn't mean they will win the war).


Minor errors Fixed.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jul 31, 2014
torkaka:

The same Igalas fighting the Igbos over oil? In the face of war, Idomas will not easily align with the Igbos. Much will really depend on the direction the Tivs take.

Kogi and Kwara = true battle grounds

Get your fact right.

Igala isn't fighting Igbo but Aguleri. They are two different thing.

It's just like two communities fighting over who owns 'something' like how Aguleri and Umuleri have been fighting meanwhile they're both Ibo. It's just a community thingy not a tribal thing. smiley

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nnewi1stSon: 6:16pm On Jul 31, 2014
I'd love to see the look on the faces of the Ikwerres when that happens gringrin, they will be left with limited options; They would either join the Ijaws in Rivers/Bayelsa and perpetually be slaves to them; Make a country out of a local gov't grin or hand portharcourt to the Igbos and apologise thoroughly for misbehaving when we were still in ''One Nigeria''. Our brothers in Anioma would be properly welcomed though cool

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by ojimbo(m): 6:17pm On Jul 31, 2014
torkaka:

Nigeria will stand all right, its just a matter of kicking fedora hat wearing cartoon character man out.
so this the only thing your head could think out?

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by EasternLeopard: 6:20pm On Jul 31, 2014
torkaka:

The same Igalas fighting the Igbos over oil? In the face of war, Idomas will not easily align with the Igbos. Much will really depend on the direction the Tivs take.

Kogi and Kwara = true battle grounds

Son you are wrong

Do you know why Jos, Southern Kaduna etc were not overrun by Arewas.? Igbo factor

Tivs are brave but lack man power needed to secure the MB.

To secure the MB, btw 5-10 million shock troops will be needed against a massive invasion from AREWA.

That man power can't be supplied by the Tivs.

Sooner or later

Other Southern groups will be asked for helped.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Energito11: 6:24pm On Jul 31, 2014
Bros God4bid that we have ikwerre in Biafra pls we dont need them and ph.
Nnewi1stSon: I'd love to see the look on the faces of the Ikwerres when that happens gringrin, they will be left with limited options; They would either join the Ijaws in Rivers/Bayelsa and perpetually be slaves to them; Make a country out of a local gov't grin or hand portharcourt to the Igbos and apologise thoroughly for misbehaving when we were still in ''One Nigeria''. Our brothers in Anioma would be properly welcomed though cool

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Rich4god(m): 6:24pm On Jul 31, 2014
Balkan: You permutation might not be wrong
majority of those tribes would not want anything to do with
the North because of Boko haram. while the east will not want them too
because of their boko haram tendencies. Wahala for them
.
Double wahala for dead bodi...
But, I no dey pray for war at all... o
Its better we stick together and sort things out...

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Energito11: 6:26pm On Jul 31, 2014
We dont need Niger Deltans.
EasternLeopard: @OP

Tivs alone do not have the man power to reinforce Northern minority groups that would be at war against Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri-Co invasion.

Sooner or later

And alliance will be formed between the MBs Igbos Nigerdeltans etc to prevent Arewas from overrunning the MB.

Reason why Igbos will overlook at the past.

1) For security reasons, we will like to see a strong MB as a buffer zone btw us and the Arewas.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Sloan: 6:26pm On Jul 31, 2014
A thread like this can only be started by the insecure people of the SE. Funny enough, they forget they will lose the most in any war / breakup situation! I wonder why SpikeC is saying Yorubas are the ones that can break the country up, and I ask why? The Yorubas will be more than glad to have our own country, and send out all the aliens but right now, a looney from the SS, Ebeledumb Jomathan is in power, what is he doing? The Yorubas are undoubtedly the most forward-thinkers in Nigeria and forward-thinkers will always tell you the correct solution, on the other hand people like Ebelechukwu Retarddenic from Ijawland is a drunkard, too dense to think even with a 1,000 advisers. The easterners are emotional creatures 100% of the time and have a wrong view of the thinking space (the world) hence they've always been wrong. The northerners have been completely sold out intellectual capacity to think for Islamic (religious) fundamentalism - they will never be able to make an objective thought about anything because for them, it is only one answer for all problems - religion!

In all these, Nigeria needs to be restructured but the retardeenic president from the SS is too busy enjoying the benefits of office to care that someday, he will no longer be president. Then, if the new president comes from another part of the country, he will also continue doing mostly what Jonathan is doing : sharing the cake! Jona and his people can complain till they are blue in the face but now that he has an opportunity to do it, he has failed, I only see Ijaws and most Nigerians crying for a long time for their laziness and incompetence to act.

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Re: In The Event Of A Break War, How The Middle Belt Will Align/fare by Nnewi1stSon: 6:27pm On Jul 31, 2014
EasternLeopard:

Son you are wrong

Do you know why Jos, Southern Kaduna etc were not overrun by Arewas.? Igbo factor

Tivs are brave but lack man power needed to secure the MB.

To secure the MB, btw 5-10 million shock troops will be needed against a massive invasion from AREWA.

That man power can't be supplied by the Tivs.

Sooner or later

Other Southern groups will be asked for helped.
The north wont be sending an army, but would use guerrilla tactics like they've doing in Jos, and recently Kaduna,Benue etcetera... So tell me how do you fight an enemy you cant see? It will take more than a Miracle to save Northern Minorities. From Kebbi to Gombe,Bauchi,Kaduna, Taraba,Plateau and Nassarawa. The north wont part with one inch of land and wouldnt hesitate to commit genocide just to keep it.

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