From my brother Goosebaba from this Thread

t's an individual thing. One has to be
determined to study or understand the
concept of worship and God of their
ancestors. When one has been indoctrinated
into believing that the names of God in their
native tongue is associated with demons.
The missionaries kept what works for them. It
would have been destructive for them to
completely demonize all names. Till today,
Nigerian still use the names of their ancestral
Gods interchangeably with western names of
abrahamic gods.
When someone calls on Olodumare,
Chukwu, Oghene, Osanonbrugwe in prayer
and say through your son we pray.That tells
me they do not know the philosophies or
folklore behind those names. I always ask
when did Chukwu accept his only son for
sacrifice.
When did Ekwensu plot coup against
Chukwu. When did Esu plot coup against
Olodumare..? And they always come back
with God has many names. But they discard
the creationists beliefs behind each name.
Mental slavery is a dirty who.re..!

This is one troubling thing in kid society today.
So much ignorance in our traditions, culture, history and spirituality

Well said.


A European would never say that Zeus is Yaweh

But a Nigerian will claim that Olodumare is Yaweh


Slaves, we Africans have become

True.

but thats one good thing the missionaries did. They didnt wipe out the original names of the Creator God since they were using cheap tricks to gain converts.

I have realized that this is useful when Im reverting brainwashed people.

PAGAN9JA:
True.

but thats one good thing the missionaries did. They didnt wipe out the original names of the Creator God since they were using cheap tricks to gain converts.

I have realized that this is useful when Im reverting brainwashed people.

Those cheap tricks has proven to be very dangerous. The evidence is glaring. I don't think they would have succeeded if they did away with the main names of each traditional deity. Sub deities on the other hand were easy target. Just term them demonic. Why should I call on saint Paul, Saint peter when I can call on numerous African deities for guidance.

Another part we should be looking into is economic growth and development from traditionalist.

However, when one is enlightened. He/she sees the big picture without trickery.

GooseBaba:

Those cheap tricks has proven to be very dangerous. The evidence is glaring. I don't think they would have succeeded if they did away with the main names of each traditional deity. Sub deities on the other hand were easy target. Just term them demonic. Why should I call on saint Paul, Saint peter when I can call on numerous African deities for guidance.

Another part we should be looking into is economic growth and development from traditionalist.

However, when one is enlightened. He/she sees the big picture without trickery.

What do u say about those mixing African spiritualities with Christianity, like Santeria where The Orisha are sometimes called Christian saints??

The African so-called blackness is questionable when they change their original names to European usually Christian names to be accepted by the Caucasians in their land. For the Orientals and Indians do not change their names to satisfy other races. Africans however especially from Africa today change their identity to satisfy the west. For many Africans in Africa are rejecting the public existence of their original lineage. If you do not respect your own lineage then why should anyone respect you ,for you are now adapting to the image of another race. This is a very negative trait taken on by the African in abundance for you are rejecting the names of your own forefathers, language, tribe and race. This is a template example of African suppression and those who challenge this notion are a negative force within our race for they put the ideology of another race ahead of their own.

macof:
What do u say about those mixing African spiritualities with Christianity, like Santeria where The Orisha are sometimes called Christian saints??

The reverse is the case. Christianity is their foundation they added African spirituality. If you notice they never demonize or discard the essence of their religion. They are simply calling on the Orisha in the open, unlike their Nigerian counterparts that play hide and seek.


I find it confusing since their platform promise serious punishment for disobedience. But then again there are those that look, and there are those that see.

Just like that ogboni pastor that proclaims Olodumare as his creator but refers to Jesus as his Personal lord and savior. I don't know what he knows, but I know he knows something that I don't know..

Horus: The African so-called blackness is questionable when they change their original names to European usually Christian names to be accepted by the Caucasians in their land. For the Orientals and Indians do not change their names to satisfy other races. Africans however especially from Africa today change their identity to satisfy the west. For many Africans in Africa are rejecting the public existence of their original lineage. If you do not respect your own lineage then why should anyone respect you ,for you are now adapting to the image of another race. This is a very negative trait taken on by the African in abundance for you are rejecting the names of your own forefathers, language, tribe and race. This is a template example of African suppression and those who challenge this notion are a negative force within our race for they put the ideology of another race ahead of their own.

Exactly what this thread is talking about. The moment you begin to give other cultures preference over yours then we have a big problem

GooseBaba:

The reverse is the case. Christianity is their foundation they added African spirituality. If you notice they never demonize or discard the essence of their religion. They are simply calling on the Orisha in the open, unlike their Nigerian counterparts that play hide and seek.


I find it confusing since their platform promise serious punishment for disobedience. But then again there are those that look, and there are those that see.

Just like that ogboni pastor that proclaims Olodumare as his creator but refers to Jesus as his Personal lord and savior. I don't know what he knows, but I know he knows something that I don't know..

that Ogboni man may or may not be truly Ogboni.
We have so many so called Ogboni in the guise of "Reform ogboni fraternity"
only God knows wat they do there