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| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by Missy89(f): 6:44am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Do Not get that ID for your own good! Sup Shymexx? 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by abbakacici: 7:15am On Aug 30, 2014 |
funny none of the defender of the scheme should own a store in the most unsecured market in Nigeria where there are almost 50% chance of theft and will not just leave the shop open at night and go home because closing it will not make it 100% secured. you are all know that CIA and NIA have the capabilities to spy on us, but our government should at least try and protected secondly how many Nigerian have passport less than 10% furthermore less 1% travel to countries that required biometrics e.h usa, canada or uk and the government does force any one to travel to theses countries 3rd less than 15% Nigeria have facebook or hi5 etc account and only about 60% of them (10%) have the right and accurate information e.g most people use pat name, nickname, wrong age wrong location etc on their profile 4th people saying the the money transaction is optional is not, yes you might decide not to used but is still part of the card. e.g is just like opening an account with bank x and living it dormant that does stop you from being a customer of bank x 5th this scheme was regret by all civilised country in the world why should Nigeria accepted it e.g Malaysia was the first country to implement a general multipurpose ID card and they regret vista help so they did it with its own resources and technology to protect its citizens 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by Nobody: 7:25am On Aug 30, 2014 |
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| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by oroagba: 7:25am On Aug 30, 2014 |
arresa: MasterCard will only have just the info your bank has always been giving them and not identity related info like parent's data, biometrics etc. Pls don't dwell on speculations. If you look at the back of a First bank debit or credit card, you are likely to see the same MasterCard logo. I'm quite sure First bank will easily admit to you that what they do is different from what MasterCard does. There is no need to be obstinately against something even when you don't have full facts 3 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by skymax: 7:41am On Aug 30, 2014 |
All these people talking about data sef, like say dem get any better money or property to keep private..... you've been using MasterCard atm cards so why the complaints now? 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by xier: 7:56am On Aug 30, 2014 |
The way some people reason even confuses the devil. NIMC is not releasing any biometric data to Mastercard nor anyone else. Sagemetrics as mentioned by someone here is also a client to the success of this project. Your biometric information is stored somewhere within Nigeria. What is released to Mastercard is the same information of yours that banks release to them about you which is your name. Your password is released by you when you use the card. This project was initially supposed to be handled by Chams Plc and OneSecure but they failed to invest in the project and for your information, the said N30B from FG is still being expected by NIMC. All who have worked on the success of the e-card are Nigerians. Any foreigner you see in NIMC is from the technical partners. The DG of NIMC is a Nigerian and in his little way has empowered Nigerians by employing them for this task not as contract staff as in the case of the defunct National ID card which was handled by a foreign company (Sagem). If there was no issue as regarding payment, you obviously wouldn't have seen Mastercard logo on your card. It is an not just an ID card but it also is a payment card. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by nateevs(m): 9:10am On Aug 30, 2014 |
xier: The way some people reason even confuses the devil. NIMC is not releasing any biometric data to Mastercard nor anyone else. Sagemetrics as mentioned by someone here is also a client to the success of this project. Your biometric information is stored somewhere within Nigeria. What is released to Mastercard is the same information of yours that banks release to them about you which is your name. Your password is released by you when you use the card. This project was initially supposed to be handled by Chams Plc and OneSecure but they failed to invest in the project and for your information, the said N30B from FG is still being expected by NIMC. All who have worked on the success of the e-card are Nigerians. Any foreigner you see in NIMC is from the technical partners. The DG of NIMC is a Nigerian and in his little way has empowered Nigerians by employing them for this task not as contract staff as in the case of the defunct National ID card which was handled by a foreign company (Sagem). If there was no issue as regarding payment, you obviously wouldn't have seen Mastercard logo on your card. It is an not just an ID card but it also is a payment card. Why does it have to be a payment card? 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by obiscolly(m): 9:16am On Aug 30, 2014 |
nateevs:Because only 30% of Nigerians operate bank accounts and the government is trying to encourage a cashless system in the economy. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by lanrefront1(m): 9:24am On Aug 30, 2014 |
xier: The way some people reason even confuses the devil. NIMC is not releasing any biometric data to Mastercard nor anyone else. Sagemetrics as mentioned by someone here is also a client to the success of this project. Your biometric information is stored somewhere within Nigeria. What is released to Mastercard is the same information of yours that banks release to them about you which is your name. Your password is released by you when you use the card. This project was initially supposed to be handled by Chams Plc and OneSecure but they failed to invest in the project and for your information, the said N30B from FG is still being expected by NIMC. All who have worked on the success of the e-card are Nigerians. Any foreigner you see in NIMC is from the technical partners. The DG of NIMC is a Nigerian and in his little way has empowered Nigerians by employing them for this task not as contract staff as in the case of the defunct National ID card which was handled by a foreign company (Sagem). If there was no issue as regarding payment, you obviously wouldn't have seen Mastercard logo on your card. It is an not just an ID card but it also is a payment card. so much analysis. Why does it have bear the logo of MasterCard? Was that necessary? Even America will never agree for the logo of a company to be on any any symbol of sovereignty, national pride or identity, even if it an American company. No other country in the world will stand for this not to talk of an oil rich country in Nigeria. It is plain wrong. There is no other name to call this. Anyone that can see this is either daft or bind supporter or ass licker of Jonathan's Administration. 3 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by lanrefront1(m): 9:26am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Douglasdale: After reading a lot of the comments here, I think Nigerians are one of thee most myopic people ever. Very daft argument. How can you be comparing National ID card of a nation to Facebook and Whatsapp registration. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by lanrefront1(m): 9:26am On Aug 30, 2014 |
xier: The way some people reason even confuses the devil. NIMC is not releasing any biometric data to Mastercard nor anyone else. Sagemetrics as mentioned by someone here is also a client to the success of this project. Your biometric information is stored somewhere within Nigeria. What is released to Mastercard is the same information of yours that banks release to them about you which is your name. Your password is released by you when you use the card. This project was initially supposed to be handled by Chams Plc and OneSecure but they failed to invest in the project and for your information, the said N30B from FG is still being expected by NIMC. All who have worked on the success of the e-card are Nigerians. Any foreigner you see in NIMC is from the technical partners. The DG of NIMC is a Nigerian and in his little way has empowered Nigerians by employing them for this task not as contract staff as in the case of the defunct National ID card which was handled by a foreign company (Sagem). If there was no issue as regarding payment, you obviously wouldn't have seen Mastercard logo on your card. It is an not just an ID card but it also is a payment card. so much analysis. Why does it have bear the logo of MasterCard? Was that necessary? Even America will never agree for the logo of a company to be on any any symbol of sovereignty, national pride or identity, even if it an American company. No other country in the world will stand for this not to talk of an oil rich country in Nigeria. It is plain wrong. There is no other name to call this. Anyone that can see this is either daft or bind supporter or ass licker of Jonathan's Administration. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by nateevs(m): 9:27am On Aug 30, 2014 |
obiscolly: So you think forcing people to have Mastercard account will achieve that? Are you going to force holders to fund the accounts as well? 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by lanrefront1(m): 9:28am On Aug 30, 2014 |
F117A: What is enormous about creating a secured and accurate very daft. biometrics is not space science. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by rhymz(m): 9:33am On Aug 30, 2014 |
It is funny how some Nigerians can express selective outrage over the fact that the new Nigerian National Identity Cards launched Thursday by President Goodluck Jonathan, has the American firm, MasterCard brand logo on it. They say they fear that such partnership and brand display may have some security and economic implications. Oh really  I am yet to understand how this is any more different from the biometric registration everyone that owns a mobile telephone lines does in this country. Seriously, are MTN, Airtel or Etisalat not foreign multi nationals as well? How come nobody has raised an eye brow over the biometric registration one has to do with them before using their SIM cards Abegi jor, people should learn to criticize constructively and with the right understanding of how the process works. It is not like Master Card is the one managing the Database, theirs is to provide payment technology with the card, NIMC is the project leader and the ones to manage the database, enough with the unnecessary Hullabaloo over nothing, who does not carry a MasterCard enabled ATM cards these days anyway....it will just be like how your bank interface your account detail on pre-request payment arrangement Master card, verve Visa and their likes. As far as I am concerned, this is a welcomed development in the right direction, we need to really know how many we are in this country. We don tire for all the nonsensical politics surrounding population count, where some regions and states count fish and even livestock as part of their human population... Lol. Now we want to know the real human Nigerians. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by makazona(m): 9:36am On Aug 30, 2014 |
undeniableGrace: on point joor.you are truely a child of parents...u just beat me to that. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by obiscolly(m): 9:42am On Aug 30, 2014 |
nateevs: Well that's where the problem lies. But i believe a good number will make use of it. |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by phibah: 9:44am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Whether MasterCard or whatever.. I SEE SOMETHING IN ALL THESE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT 666...THE MARK OF THE BEAST THE END OF TIMES JESUS IS COMING SOON ARE YOU READY? DON'T BE CAUGHT UNAWARES.. HE'LL IS REAL BE READY 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by 360command: 10:08am On Aug 30, 2014 |
My take on this is really bad. Having a foreign brand commercial company logo on our national Id card is like obtaining a foreign picture(image) and placing it on our postage stamp when we are suppose to be using our own local images set in Nigeria on our postage stamp. So, linking our data to the hands of MasterCard is something I do not feel OK about. At least,let us have a national pride of our own. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by darqly(m): 10:15am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Nigeria, land of paranoia and misplaced nationalistic pride  Everyone screaming about their so-called personal data being monitored by the U.S. and one particular clown that used the over flogged term 'neo-colonisation' conveniently forget one thing- MTN- SA co, Nigerian subscribers 51,274,654 ETISALAT- Arab co, Nigerian subscribers 15,114,484 AIRTEL- Indian co, Nigerian subscribers 23,670,986 Ignorance is a disease, tragically it has no cure. Wait for the national ID card with PDP logo..  5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by lanrefront1(m): 10:18am On Aug 30, 2014 |
makazona: another daft postulation. the person who commended the post is even double daft. So we need MasterCard logo on Nigeria's National Identity Card to make it sellable to the world !!!1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by nateevs(m): 10:19am On Aug 30, 2014 |
rhymz: How do you intend Mastercard to provide payment technology with the card without first obtaining a replica of the database and therefore managing a copy of it? Yet you are the one asking people to argue constructively and talk right about the operation of the process. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by bobbydbobo: 10:29am On Aug 30, 2014 |
I wonder why Nigerians allow themselves to be used and why they just let their overzealous actions and wrongly chanelled passions cloud their sense of judgment. I wonder why Nigerians can not even sit down to think, why they can't process an information independently and without bias. When will they reason that Master Card is an internationally acceptable financial institution that enables you withdraw with the card anywhere in the world, with e transactions and all. So all our ATMs, when they carry Mastercard Logo, it means their ownership and authority is challenged? All master card is on it for is to show that it is a financially acceptable platform/card for transaction and it definitely must carry their brand name somewhere. You might start comparing and saying U.K doesn't do such with their Nat I.D, U.S doesn't do such wiv theirs, well this is different, those ones aren't eCards and can't transact, this can.The mastercard inclusion is just to make it acceptable for transactions locally and internationally.Yes, not everybody will need that but they can never do it differently for some, so definitely, every1's card is branded. The fear of anyones data being open to all is laughable, definitely, the only thing anyone will see is whateva the NIMS wants you to see, you go to the embassy, the only detail they see wiv ur NIN is what is programmed for them to see, the same in your bank, and so on, so nobody's data is being open to anyone. This is a giant stride by the National Identity Management Commission and not the President. Nigerians just like to channell their daily frustration into any and everything that is being done in the country, good or bad. I hope people sit down to reason and not tow in the line of people who just want to bring down what an opposition does by all means and when they raise issues like this pple just fall into that thought without even critically analyzing the situatiuation. I am no politician nd I'm for no party, I just support something good. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by GENTLETEE(m): 10:56am On Aug 30, 2014 |
I see good intentions in all of it. What sort of national pride are they referring to pleaassse! |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by yongjay(m): 10:57am On Aug 30, 2014 |
obiscolly:look like u are a big fool...with washed brain...it suppose to b our pride nd nt 1 insensitive money transaction card..this isnt making sense.!! 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by BluStreak(m): 10:58am On Aug 30, 2014 |
My take on this issue is that most of the people criticising this project are either outrightly biased or are uninformed about the project. MasterCard did not brand our National ID because they are the custodians of our data or as a slap on our face, their logo on the card is just to indicate that the financial element of the card is powered by them. If not for the planned financial integration on the ID by the Feds, there wouldn't have been this outlandish cry about MasterCard logo because it wouldn't have been there in the first place. It's just like your ATM card. We have been using ATM in this country before the international processors - Visa & Mastercard - came into the picture. Their inclusion is only to validate us on international transactions. The NIMC has put enough infrastructures in place to manage our database so there is no cause for alarm. We shouldn't right off our decision makers in such a haste because just as we are concerned about our privacy, they too are concerned. They obviously would have brainstormed on this issue before giving it a go. Having said that, we as a people knowing how corrupt we have become over the years, wouldn't it serve us better having out DB managed by a foreign partner with credibility than leaving it in the hands of unscrupulous, untrustwhorthy elements (in the name of indigenous companies) that will end up selling the details to whoever makes them a good offer just to enrich themselves? Note that I am not implying that our data is with MC. Make una reason am naaaah? 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by Douglasdale(m): 10:59am On Aug 30, 2014 |
SirShymex: [/color]I have really tried to have a decent conversation with you sorry arse but I am afraid that's going to be an indomitable task. Seeing that you woke up on the wrong side of your CAGE this morning and you all you spew Is garbage from your maggot infested slimmy dump you call a brain. Calling you an idiot would be an insult to all of the stupid people on nairaland. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but you abuse that privilege But Oga/madam Shymex with the naked chick on your avi... I suggest you just open your mind and shut your mouth,... both are empty anyway. Keep talking... You might actually, say something intelligent... Someday. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by obiscolly(m): 11:08am On Aug 30, 2014 |
yongjay: look like u are a big fool...with washed brain...it suppose to b our pride nd nt 1 insensitive money transaction card..this isnt making sense.!!You with your face like Sango, when educated people are talking kindly keep shut cos your opinions are as stupid as you look. Ediot..facking duncce! |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by Douglasdale(m): 11:11am On Aug 30, 2014 |
lanrefront1: I no mumu like you o. So I go let this slide. |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by yongjay(m): 11:11am On Aug 30, 2014 |
this is a good idea...like d nigerian culture...#right thing in a wrong way#..which has much motives...for a national pride to av a mastercard logo..where in d world is dat done..moreover this is like selling nigeria to d america.. 1 Like |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by Nobody: 11:11am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Firstly, just as some of us rightly mentioned, except the contract are obviously wrong. Mastercard have no right to put their symbol on the card. Mastercard has handled similar countries card but have been prohibited from advertising and disallowed from referring to it for a fixed number of years called protection clause. That said, it is not bad for Mastercard to handle the payment aspect, as they are one of the leading payment platform in the world but i do think Visa is more secured. Moreso, this is not to say they hold the data base with them: In fact the information provided are encrypted by cryptonics which is a different platform of data security and management system. Lastly NIMC holds the database system for Nigerians but during payment all three companies will share information based on the need need bases. As initiation is done by the holder of the card, merchant confirms payment via Mastercard payment platform which will poll encrypted data managed by cryptonics from the NIMC, access bank get a percentage of all payment made through your ID as host bank. This way no one company have full repository of the database as all thiese are shared based on need to use base iniated by the card owner himself/herself. This model should be encouraged. 2 Likes |
| Re: SCANDALOUS: Outrage In Nigeria As Government Brands National ID Card With Master by yongjay(m): 11:16am On Aug 30, 2014 |
obiscolly:i knw u just bragging...u r nt really educated...i knw u r brainless..so am overlooking..nt ready to go into arguement wif u |
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